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Hamsun
31 Jan 12, 14:53
It's official now, welcome.

http://img.skysports.com/11/10/660x350/Juan-Jesus_2671622.jpg

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?L=it&N=56389

Cris
31 Jan 12, 14:55
Welcome!!

Mad Biscione
31 Jan 12, 15:00
Welcome :oblivious:

DIN011
31 Jan 12, 15:03
Yeah, welcome...


Anyway, I found this in another forum:


Not a bad player at all, if you ask me. I had bigger expectations on him, but I must admit I was wrong. He's a decent player, no more than this. He's strong and has a good tackling, but he's quite sluggish at turning around, so, he has really huge problems against tiny agile/explosive players. All in all, his biggest problem is that he has no brain, unfortunally. He's dumb on every aspect. And he's also antiethical and hot-headed. I expect you'll have lots of headaches with him.


Looks like we replaced Chivu with Chivu. :lol:




Oh well, haven't seen him play, so I can't say shit. Good luck I guess. :work:

DARi0
31 Jan 12, 15:24
Welcome Jesus :D God help us! Good luck!

William
31 Jan 12, 15:26
Welcome juan

DARi0
31 Jan 12, 15:42
official banner:

http://www.inter.it/img/2012/mercato_JUAN_ITA.jpg

:cool:

Coasterfreek
31 Jan 12, 15:46
Welcome!

Ana Banana
31 Jan 12, 15:50
Happy about this. Welcome and good luck!

vasilios
31 Jan 12, 16:40
I'll be surprised if he contributes anything at all this season. Sending him on loan seems like it would have made more sense, but we'll see.

rsz85
31 Jan 12, 16:58
I hope he can be a fantastic CB for us for many years.

William
31 Jan 12, 17:00
official banner:

http://www.inter.it/img/2012/mercato_JUAN_ITA.jpg

:cool:

Btw in that picture he freakishly looks like lucio when he gets pumped up, if he plays like him then we've hit the jackpot

_Ivan_
31 Jan 12, 17:20
welcome juan :)

Ed.
31 Jan 12, 17:20
Btw in that picture he freakishly looks like lucio when he gets pumped up, if he plays like him then we've hit the jackpot

I was about to say the same thing.

Doffy
31 Jan 12, 17:23
about time we got our own thiago silva. sky is the limit

vassago
31 Jan 12, 17:23
welcome Kid... hope you make us proud:)

Devious
31 Jan 12, 17:41
So we`ve got Lucio`s successor.. this should be exciting!!!

Now Jesus himself is a Nerazzurro! :D

Me2
31 Jan 12, 18:11
Welcome Juan

Gano
31 Jan 12, 18:29
Welcome!

Concord
31 Jan 12, 18:51
Welcom Juan, I hope you can replace our current awful left backs

Besnik
31 Jan 12, 18:52
Benvenuto! :)

skyline1908
31 Jan 12, 18:56
Welcome. Can't wait to see him on fire.

Gerti-inter
31 Jan 12, 19:04
45 ? Next Balotelli ? :P

nerazzurri4life
31 Jan 12, 19:30
Don't know why he is with us tbh. Should've loaned him out immediately.
We've just wasted 4 months of his developmental cycle by bringing him here.

Pajo
31 Jan 12, 19:39
True. I bet both Cordoba and Chivu will start over him.

Choppin Onions
31 Jan 12, 19:40
Don't know why he is with us tbh. Should've loaned him out immediately.
We've just wasted 4 months of his developmental cycle by bringing him here.

Have to agree with this. Thankfully they made the right decision with Coutinho.

Anyways, welcome Jesus.

Stefan
31 Jan 12, 19:49
Goodluck Juan.

Kenny
31 Jan 12, 19:52
Now Jesus himself is a Nerazzurro! :D

I see what You did there !

http://memeorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/I-See-What-You-Did-There-Rage-Face-Meme.png

Stefan
31 Jan 12, 19:59
Don't know why he is with us tbh. Should've loaned him out immediately.
We've just wasted 4 months of his developmental cycle by bringing him here.

That was the plan but claudio wanted to keep. Would have been better loaning him.

NeonBlade
31 Jan 12, 20:04
The perfect situation to take an early preview of the Ranocchia - Juan combination would've been the Coppa Ital.....oooops....sorry. FORGOT....

Devious
31 Jan 12, 20:35
I like what we did there.

Taking alook at our squade. it`s a combination of high quality treble winning players who are particulary legends, and new talanted ones who will be holding the future of this team step by step after learning from the legends, replacing them, and taking the responsibility for decades to come. cant see any team out there who managed to make this fantastic very balanced combination.

Regadless of our struggles and problems we`re facing now. I can say that we are finally building a solid squade for the future based on a solid ground. I think all we need to have now is patience. and someday we shall see extremly delighte results just like those Udinese and Napoli for instant are witnessing nowadays. but ours will go even further.

Or that Im being over-optimistic. which is good. it`s been awhile since I felt like that.

kova9
01 Feb 12, 09:42
Welcome to Inter kid! I hope you are more like Lucio, less like Rivas! Good luck!

Paco#21
01 Feb 12, 11:07
Welcome & Good luck kid!

crzdcolombian
05 Feb 12, 16:29
45 ? Next Balotelli ? :P Since he is a defender and not a striker I really hope you don't mean his attitude

KevinB
05 Feb 12, 16:36
Since he is a defender and not a striker I really hope you don't mean his attitude
He was talking about the number. 45 was/is Balotelli's number

Starmo4
05 Feb 12, 16:57
OOOoo Jesus help us!!!!

Stoppani
05 Feb 12, 19:38
Hopefully he has some of Jesus in himself because our defense needs a miracle!
Is he also injured as all of our 2012 foreign reinforcements?

Come on Jesus! RISE UP AND WALK!!!

Pipka
05 Feb 12, 21:59
Hope that he can at least turn water into wine cause I can't watch this shit any longer while sober :palm:

snake
05 Feb 12, 22:00
Hope he can turn me into a virgin again, because over the last week, Inter have fucked me three times.

Dylan
05 Feb 12, 22:16
Hope he can nail me to a cross. . . .

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg

skeet
05 Feb 12, 22:19
people are looking to him to save our defense?

jesus :palm:

Stoppani
06 Feb 12, 02:01
people are looking to him to save our defense?

jesus :palm:

It was just a joke. We all love INTER but it's not healthy to be depressed all sunday long.
But seriously let's hope this guy brings SOMETHING good to the team, the sooner the better.
We need everyone's help, not only the elder ones.

skeet
06 Feb 12, 02:06
It was just a joke. We all love INTER but it's not healthy to be depressed all sunday long.
But seriously let's hope this guy brings SOMETHING good to the team, the sooner the better.
We need everyone's help, not only the elder ones.

my post was also a joke :slick:

Bergpavian
06 Feb 12, 10:45
Stupid question: Is he already here or not? And if he is: Why doesn't he have a number? And why isn't he sitting on the bench at least? Can't imagine he would do worse than the guys at the moment ...

I4E
06 Feb 12, 10:47
Stupid question: Is he already here or not? And if he is: Why doesn't he have a number? And why isn't he sitting on the bench at least? Can't imagine he would do worse than the guys at the moment ...
Apparently he's in Milan now.

Uncommon
06 Feb 12, 10:50
Stupid question: Is he already here or not? And if he is: Why doesn't he have a number? And why isn't he sitting on the bench at least? Can't imagine he would do worse than the guys at the moment ...

I am stupid, that question is not. He arrived to Appiano Gentile yesterday, so expect him to get shirt # and to be called up soon enough, hopefully against Novara already.

DIN011
06 Feb 12, 10:54
I read somewhere that he's been called up for Viareggio(spelling?) with our primavera.

Mad Biscione
06 Feb 12, 11:10
Yep, maybe will play today against Anderlecht at 15.00 ?

Any word how to watch www.rai.tv outside Italy its supposed to be on Rai Sport 1?

vasilios
06 Feb 12, 13:38
Stupid question: Is he already here or not? And if he is: Why doesn't he have a number? And why isn't he sitting on the bench at least? Can't imagine he would do worse than the guys at the moment ...

He can do much worse. As disappointing as Lucio/Samuel have been, expecting some 20 year old middling talent from South America who's been here for all of a week to do any better is crazy.

vitomins
06 Feb 12, 16:05
I read somewhere that he's been called up for Viareggio(spelling?) with our primavera.


He wasn't on the bench today...any other news on this??

thatdude
06 Feb 12, 17:30
Looks like he's going to play Viareggio with the primavera to help acclimate to Italian football and life at Inter. Im pretty sure the cutoff for that tournament is 20, unlike the league which I believe is 18 now.

Batman
06 Feb 12, 18:49
Yup he is called up for the Viareggio Cup squad.

DIN011
06 Feb 12, 19:17
He wasn't on the bench today...any other news on this??

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?L=it&N=56488

Mad Biscione
07 Feb 12, 16:14
so I guess he's not going to play in Veraggio Cup after all

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/160727-500.jpg
http://www.inter.it/aas/img/160754.jpg
http://www.inter.it/aas/img/160742.jpg
http://www.inter.it/aas/img/160728.jpg

Bergpavian
07 Feb 12, 16:25
Inter Channel, Juan: "Here I am, fans"
Tuesday, 07 February 2012 17:50

APPIANO GENTILE - After his first training session with the team, new Nerazzurri signing Juan gave his first statements to Inter Channel, which will be broadcast at 19:30 during the news segment.

"I'm a bit tired, but I'm relaxed. I'm happy and content. I hadn't worked out on the pitch for a while, but it all went well. I want to send my warmest embraces to the Nerazzurri fans," he stated.

Source: http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=39032&L=en

Has he also been hurt? :work:

thatdude
07 Feb 12, 17:15
so I guess he's not going to play in Veraggio Cup after all

Not necessarily. Cristeg usually trains with the first team but plays all the primavera games.

A.l.i
07 Feb 12, 17:28
Nice, looking forward to seeing him.

Concord
07 Feb 12, 17:29
Any new player in the defense will play better than our current disaster players, all we need is spirit and thats not in the current defenders any more, at least Juan is full of spirit now because he want to fight and proof he is worth it.

I hope he play immediately

Pimpin
07 Feb 12, 17:48
http://www.inter.it/aas/img/160742.jpg


TWINS!!!

snake
07 Feb 12, 20:38
TWINS!!!

Not even fucking close tbh.

Pimpin
07 Feb 12, 20:43
Not even fucking close tbh.

yeah..Watching it again.. what the fuck is wrong with my eyes :pokerface:

Caecuban
07 Feb 12, 21:36
Bem vindo Juan!

jmaster
07 Feb 12, 22:16
Not even fucking close tbh.

WHY?! JUST BECAUSE HE'S BLACK? HUH?

NeonBlade
08 Feb 12, 01:00
Could we see him in the Novara game with Lucio? Or is it way too early?

thatdude
08 Feb 12, 02:26
I'd be surprised if he was even called up. I hope everyone tempers expectations now. I would love to see this kid step in and play like a star from day one but odds are we're in for some rough years of development. CB might be the hardest position for a young player to learn outside of goalkeeper. Anyone saying he can't be worse then Rannochia and Lucio is WRONG. Hope we give him the time to develop.

Besnik
08 Feb 12, 09:43
Could we see him in the Novara game with Lucio? Or is it way too early?

Well, himself he already admitted that he hasn't worked out on the pitch for a while and his first training was yesterday, so I guess it's still too early to expect him to play though.

Driv5r
08 Feb 12, 10:15
Looks highly promising this Juan.

necrodragon
08 Feb 12, 10:26
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1580511.html?cid=rssfeed&att=

interview with juan, he looks like a nice guy, hopes he turn out like thiago silva

Toninu
08 Feb 12, 10:32
Has he been called up for Viareggio?

Inter Siamo Noi
08 Feb 12, 12:16
Yes.

I4E
08 Feb 12, 12:19
"If I have to get forward and Lucio does too, then we’ll just have to put up a sign saying ‘The defence will be back soon.'" Juan Jesus jokes about partnering Lucio in Milan

^^ from the interview :lol: don't be gone for too long :)

vitomins
08 Feb 12, 13:51
Yes.


I think he was on the list, but he hasn't even been on the bench for the first two matches. I think it is safe to say that he is staying with the first team...

Olyzzerz
09 Feb 12, 19:50
"If I have to get forward and Lucio does too, then we’ll just have to put up a sign saying ‘The defence will be back soon.'" Juan Jesus jokes about partnering Lucio in Milan

^^ from the interview :lol: don't be gone for too long :)

Thats almost funny

Devious
12 Feb 12, 11:21
Ive got Balls V2.0 :proud:

dynasty27
12 Feb 12, 11:24
Dev thinks Dev will help us cuz he posted what i posted oh jes 4give me.

shoudkodl have posrted it

Devious
12 Feb 12, 11:31
dyn thinks Jesus will hear him cause he posted on his own thread. BWAH! :D

Hope it works anyway.

Me2
13 Feb 12, 17:16
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422986_330652210306910_204494089589390_909778_2071 865060_n.jpg

Pajo
13 Feb 12, 17:19
I heard everyone was impressed by him in training. Any truth in this?

Mad Biscione
13 Feb 12, 17:31
the actuall quote was "Im pressed...(something something)" , google fuck up :trolldad:

Starmo4
26 Feb 12, 13:36
Whas up with this guy... ?????

Rano is injured , he should been called up for napoli game!!

Mad Biscione
26 Feb 12, 13:52
Over Cordoba? :yao:

Starmo4
26 Feb 12, 15:42
Over Cordoba? :yao:

Yeah,cordoba need more playing time!!! His our future!!

crzdcolombian
26 Feb 12, 16:15
Whas up with this guy... ?????

Rano is injured , he should been called up for napoli game!!

Probably like Jonathon isn't very good and will be at Parma next season on loan

z3mcneil
26 Feb 12, 22:08
They (you know who I mean) say we have no money, yet they spend valuable $$$ on a promising young player and then choose to play Cordoba ( who is semi-retired and has the market value of $0) over him?! Thank you Ranieri and thank you inter management! You couldn't make this up even if you tried. :palm:

Driv5r
28 Feb 12, 10:20
Over Cordoba? :yao:

If by that you mean Cordoba is better than Juan...
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/13/e84d986f-edd0-43f9-af95-ef5184d3ad37.jpg

Starmo4
28 Feb 12, 10:48
If by that you mean Cordoba is better than Juan...
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/13/e84d986f-edd0-43f9-af95-ef5184d3ad37.jpg

it was joke.. !:)

Efrain21C
04 Mar 12, 03:52
Cordoba is a youngster

But being serious, I hope he starts tomorrow, he's a breeze of fresh air in our defense...

Bergpavian
04 Mar 12, 17:18
http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=39268&L=en


Juan Jesus's name has appeared in the squad list for a game for the first time. The coach explained: "It's a reward because he has shown incredible strength of character and he's training well. He's not ready yet but I wanted to reward him."

What's with that nonsense? Is he fit or not? O_o

Sokrates
04 Mar 12, 17:23
Probably he meant that he is not ready to be in the startig 11, but he wants to give him a "present" to show him the faith

IRR26
04 Mar 12, 17:27
http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=39268&L=en



What's with that nonsense? Is he fit or not? O_o

To me it sounded like he will be our mascot. There is no chance that Ranieri will get him any playing time. He even waited long with the senior players before they could play after they recovered from injury.

DIN011
04 Mar 12, 18:18
"He is not ready yet...


I'll reward him by putting him on the bench!"

RobinV
10 Mar 12, 13:54
I think he played great for our Primavera today :)

DIN011
10 Mar 12, 13:59
I think he played great for our Primavera today :)
Really? Nah, he was way too clumsy. Dude's far from ready for the first team.

Mad Biscione
10 Mar 12, 14:03
He was solid, can't tell by one game, but he was confident.

Raul Duke
10 Mar 12, 14:28
Was he playing CB or LB?

Inter Siamo Noi
10 Mar 12, 14:35
He played cb till 77', then lb.

Bergpavian
11 Mar 12, 12:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4&ob=av2e

ShqiperInter
13 Mar 12, 15:49
Claudio, Please sir, give it a chance this child ..

DIN011
13 Mar 12, 15:51
Claudio, Please sir, give it a chance this child ..
Why?

Mad Biscione
15 Mar 12, 09:50
On Inter youtube channel I've heard his name pronounced in 4 different ways already. Can anyone clarify this for me, It's Juan with an H and Jesus like Jose ?

.h.
15 Mar 12, 10:05
He's Brazilian, so it would be most likely be _J_uan _J_esus

Suneet
19 Mar 12, 17:47
So is it whose fault that we keep signing players and expect them to be superstars without playing?

dynasty27
19 Mar 12, 18:35
So what was/is his reputation in Brazil if it means anything... one of the promising up and coming talents with Thiago Silva potential? 2nd/3rd best talent after Dede? Or just a player for Primavera...

Oh Jesus Christ pls help us...

Bzzlightyear
19 Mar 12, 20:47
I did watch Brazil U20 all the games i remember it was at night time and it was always hard to wake up and watch but i did and i can tell you this he did play well Juan was solid and did well ofc its not national team but he was among the best and didnt do any clumsy errors that i did noticed as well its always easy to play well when your team is one of the best if not the best U20 team in the world but for me he did well

DIN011
19 Mar 12, 20:50
So is it whose fault that we keep signing players and expect them to be superstars without playing?
Whose fault is it that we WASTE 4 million on a player that clearly isn't ready for the first team yet, and probably won't be for a long time?

Bzzlightyear
19 Mar 12, 21:04
Whose fault is it that we WASTE 4 million on a player that clearly isn't ready for the first team yet, and probably won't be for a long time?
Branca does it

Efrain21C
20 Mar 12, 01:51
Whose fault is it that we WASTE 4 million on a player that clearly isn't ready for the first team yet, and probably won't be for a long time?

the FFP, of course

edit: are we the only teams who are trying to follow that rule or something?

Toninu
20 Mar 12, 11:18
Well we won't have to follow it next season, since we won't be in Europe :troll:

The_Eradicator
03 Apr 12, 22:35
Is this guy still alive? Surely we could of left his purchase till next season or at least bought him and left him in Brazil for the rest of the season.

Scottish_one
03 Apr 12, 23:36
Is this guy still alive? Surely we could of left his purchase till next season or at least bought him and left him in Brazil for the rest of the season.same old mistakes made over and over. so now hes here and not playing, thus wasting

junior55
13 May 12, 21:22
Great game by him tonight.

Definitely the next Samuel/Lucio

Bzzlightyear
13 May 12, 21:24
Great game by him tonight.

Definitely the next Samuel/Lucio

What did he play ?

junior55
13 May 12, 21:28
What did he play ?

Hahaha yeah he got in around the 2nd minute of extra time.... :P

Bzzlightyear
13 May 12, 21:31
Hahaha yeah he got in around the 2nd minute of extra time.... :P

Did he do something special ? or runs control the ball, as when it was 3-1 i didnt wanna watch anymore

FORZAINTERMILAN
13 May 12, 21:34
He didnt do anything what a great game ? :lol:

Complicated_Simplicity
13 May 12, 22:57
No mistakes from him this game
:slick:

Native
13 May 12, 23:03
I believe he had the ball once. He lost it

Dylan
13 May 12, 23:04
Sarcasm really does get lost when it has to translate to like 5 languages.

Complicated_Simplicity
13 May 12, 23:09
I was wondering though why he was put on the last minute?

Efrain21C
14 May 12, 00:52
I was wondering though why he was put on the last minute?

He was worthy enough of a minute of gameplay :challenge:

douglasthiago
15 May 12, 01:18
Are you sure he played a whole minute? Because here (http://www.soccerway.com/players/juan-guilherme-nunes-jesus/113524/) it says that he entered but they didn't count his minute played.

snake
15 May 12, 01:28
lol seriously, what is the difference?

Pimpin
26 May 12, 11:06
Menezes said that he will start the game tonight vs denmark.

Cant wait to see him

interista4
26 May 12, 11:42
Yep.. will watch him along with the inter match..
And we better loan him out next season or let him come off the bench for us, I don't see any point keeping the players in the primavera at age of 20, rather see him play in Serie B or something.

Bzzlightyear
26 May 12, 11:48
Yep.. will watch him along with the inter match..
And we better loan him out next season or let him come off the bench for us, I don't see any point keeping the players in the primavera at age of 20, rather see him play in Serie B or something.

Or maybe play as left back

javier_zanetti <3
26 May 12, 11:55
Why loan him? we have now only 3 CDF - Juan, Samuel and Frog.

junkie
26 May 12, 12:13
Why loan him? we have now only 3 CDF - Juan, Samuel and Frog.

yep, that`s what I`t thinking too...and some of them could get injured

Toninu
26 May 12, 12:14
Well he could be our third option next season. He's going to be starting for Brazil today against Denmark.

Bergpavian
26 May 12, 12:19
Well he could be our third option next season. He's going to be starting for Brazil today against Denmark.

Then even I could start in a national team because I played nearly as much professional football as he did.

Pimpin
26 May 12, 13:57
WOW he had a great run and assist for Damiao

HE IS A BEAST! JUST LIKE LUCIO :| !

Doffy
26 May 12, 14:51
he is fucking solid. Cb problem solved guys. :work:

Illyricum
26 May 12, 15:08
Which NUMBER is he wearing ?

Pimpin
26 May 12, 15:11
14 .. he and Silva are just staying back

junior55
26 May 12, 15:33
Well i want to see him in a duo with some other defender that isn't T.Silva.
Thiago fucking takes the defence on his shoulders and makes all the others look better .

Juan looked a little slow to me when he missed some interceptions and couldn't track back in time, anyway only the 1st match i see of him so i can't give an opinion on him.

Bzzlightyear
26 May 12, 15:38
Mourinho was watching, but i guess when Brazil does play many coaches will do the same

Hasan
26 May 12, 15:41
Happy to have him in Inter, sounds like serious prospect. I hope that he will get more games in next season because Lucio and Cordoba are gone plus Samuel is almost done.

junior55
26 May 12, 15:53
Mourinho was watching, but i guess when Brazil does play many coaches will do the same

Probably he was there for smn else like Lucas for example , who by the way did shit ...

Pimpin
26 May 12, 15:55
I watched the whole game, he actually played good, and he was not slow, maybe he needs to improve on his stamina but he is not slow.

The only problem that I saw with him today was impatience , after 5 seconds of holding the ball hed go on and make a long pass which almost every time were "bad" passes. He had a great run in the first half, something like lucio the only difference was that he actually made a good pass, which makes me optimistic about the future.

Rano and Juan Jesus can really be our CB duo :D

Fapuccino
26 May 12, 16:13
I watched the whole game, he actually played good, and he was not slow, maybe he needs to improve on his stamina but he is not slow.

The only problem that I saw with him today was impatience , after 5 seconds of holding the ball hed go on and make a long pass which almost every time were "bad" passes. He had a great run in the first half, something like lucio the only difference was that he actually made a good pass, which makes me optimistic about the future.

Rano and Juan Jesus can really be our CB duo :D

that is really awesome to hear, i wanted ranieri and strama to play him all along, at least some minutes against parma or more against lazio since we lost those anyway.... he got 6.0 from goal.com which is actually pretty decent since it was his debut. he just needs more playin time to boost his confidence. im pretty fkn excited

Big Willy
26 May 12, 16:30
A good match doesn't make you a beast or a bad player people...

He's a very interesting player. I saw him live 3 times in the U-20 World Cup alongside Bruno Uvini and they made their mistakes, but nothing important. They were pretty solid through the tournament.


Whose fault is it that we WASTE 4 million on a player that clearly isn't ready for the first team yet, and probably won't be for a long time?

Who assures you he won't be here for long time? Who assures you he's not ready for the first team since he has been playing for U-17 and U-20 Brazil NT's regularly? Who assures you he's a waste of 4M?

...

In the worst of the scenarios I'm sure we'll recover the 4M of the investment.

Cal
26 May 12, 17:24
What I want to know is, why the fuck are Brazil starting a random 20 year old who hasn't played 1 game the last like 5 months....

rsz85
26 May 12, 17:42
What I want to know is, why the fuck are Brazil starting a random 20 year old who hasn't played 1 game the last like 5 months....

Because they know him, they trust him and he is good???

Problem is: if a DEF is enough good for Brasil NT why he is not enugh good for the last 10 years worst Inter?

junkie
26 May 12, 19:01
What I want to know is, why the fuck are Brazil starting a random 20 year old who hasn't played 1 game the last like 5 months....

probably for the same reason why we bought it...or the Inter just came to Brazil and bought it by random choice :D

Bzzlightyear
26 May 12, 19:17
probably for the same reason why we bought it...or the Inter just came to Brazil and bought it by random choice :D

If he does play for olympics then his prize instead of 5 mill be more then 10 mill, i hope he does well

rfU
26 May 12, 19:29
anyway only the 1st match i see of him so i can't give an opinion on him.exactly. anyway this is encouraging news.

Matrix_invincible
27 May 12, 08:25
Will be difficult for the world cup 2014 for him! Thiago Silver is the clear number 1 and then they have David Luiz but as Juan will be the next star at Inter he will do it for sure!

Rano + Juan = our decent CBs next season!!

lonewolf19
27 May 12, 08:59
Good to see he is playing for Brazilian NT.
We definitely need him next season with Lucio and Cordoba gone.

Toninu
27 May 12, 10:21
There is still a long way to go till 2014 it actually depends on the season after the next.

Kraits
27 May 12, 13:50
Should go out on loan... need more playing time.... hope some team would use him as a starter....

Vibe
27 May 12, 14:16
If Chivu leaves he should be direct backup for Samuel.If Chivu stays he should be loaned for sake of play time...

Bergpavian
27 May 12, 16:10
If Chivu stays he should ...

... get himself an iron bar and do a Tonya-Harding on Chivu.

A.l.i
27 May 12, 16:26
He'll most probably go on loan to Napoli if we manage to pull Lavezzi deal off.

nerazzurri4life
27 May 12, 18:04
Juan is definitely not ready for primetime yet. Loan please.

Aurimas
28 May 12, 09:10
According to Gazzetta dello Sport, Juan is close to Parma - a loan deal for 1 year.

Bzzlightyear
28 May 12, 09:14
According to Gazzetta dello Sport, Juan is close to Parma - a loan deal for 1 year.

That would be good he will play more if this happens

Uncommon
28 May 12, 09:16
Well i hope that its part of the deal that brings Giovinco to us. Good deal nonetheless.

interista4
28 May 12, 09:40
Well i hope that its part of the deal that brings Giovinco to us. Good deal nonetheless.

There's no way we'll be getting Gio tho unless Rube sells thier 50%

Suneet
28 May 12, 10:45
Juan can have enough playing time at CB or LB... Easily. There is no way Naga and Wall-e will play all the games.. IMO we need to sign defenders not loan them out

nerazzurri4life
28 May 12, 15:29
Juan can have enough playing time at CB or LB... Easily. There is no way Naga and Wall-e will play all the games.. IMO we need to sign defenders not loan them out

Juan is not ready yet though. He's not going to get enough playing time and the pressure here is too high for him to develop. Look at what we did to Santon. Look at what we're doing to Frog, who was MUCH BETTER and more ready than Juan when he came here, yet the pressure was too big and the team in general was not good enough.

Juan needs to go on loan. Period. Olympics followed by a loan to a team who'll give him consistent playing time will be much more beneficial for HIM (and us in the long term), than him staying here and getting scrub minutes, under high pressure with little room for error, which he WILL MAKE.

Suneet
28 May 12, 19:12
Good point, but who will be our 3rd 4th and 5th CB?

Il Maestro
28 May 12, 19:27
I think we'll get Silvestre, so:

Samuel, Ranocchia and Silvestre our 1st, 2nd and 3rd cb. Juan and Luca Caldirola 4th and 5th cb.

Fapuccino
29 May 12, 15:06
Enough of this hes not ready crap.... He hadnt played in 5 months, went in and put on a decent performance with brazil. He can also play as left back and we have a lot of europa league games. I say he keep him as third choice center b, we should put more faith in young players. What we should do is trade ranochia for a better cb

Doffy
29 May 12, 15:11
i just hope he gets regular playingtime next season, whether it be with us or in another team. the guy has definitely much potential.

in fact i dont see why he couldn't be one of our starters. its not that froggy or an old samuel are much better.



im already dreaming of defense of him and rolin, could turn out great. :oblivious:

KillerKarl86
29 May 12, 18:56
He needs to start, being called Jesus has got to be a good omen haha :awwwyeah:

But seriously if we don't give him minutes we need to loan him out, and i agree that he can't be much worse than what Rano has been

Serhio_D
29 May 12, 22:56
I'm pretty sure the guy's gonna get some chances this season! Strama will take care of it

Starmo4
30 May 12, 19:33
He is playing tonight ,against USA ....


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crzdcolombian
31 May 12, 00:10
He is starting today for Brazil vs USA.

2nd game the brazilians are using really young squad. Is this their Olympic team?

vasilios
31 May 12, 00:15
He is starting today for Brazil vs USA.

2nd game the brazilians are using really young squad. Is this their Olympic team?

According to the coach, yes, these are the same players who will go to the Olympics.

crzdcolombian
31 May 12, 00:21
I was wondering what the coach was smoking for him to bench David Luiz for Juan Jesus. It looks like Marcelo, Hulk and Thiago Silva are the 3 over 23 players.

that blows PK for Brazil. WOw the US uniforms are fugly

MANTA
31 May 12, 00:58
Juan kinda sucked on the US goal.

Fapuccino
31 May 12, 00:59
d luiz is injured. usa 1 brazil 2 end of first half...juan j had almost no defending to do, made some simple passes, then a goal came which was pretty much his fault. caught ball watching.... hopefully he gets better

Tsuna
31 May 12, 01:00
Gonna watch this match and see how Juan does and the new and improved usa team

thatdude
31 May 12, 01:04
Muscled by Gomez for the USA goal.

MANTA
31 May 12, 01:05
To be fair, keeper kinda sucked too on the goal.

thatdude
31 May 12, 01:09
Ya I think he was expecting the keep to make the stop and then it popped up right to Gomez and it was to late.

Fapuccino
31 May 12, 02:05
He looks the exact opposite of lucio and samuel. He's young and fast, but not commanding at all in the box during set pieces, needs to be a lot better in the air. Positioning is questionable at times. He made two decent interceptions/clearances and 1 block. He has potential but he's lacking confidence. Maybe because we've been keeping him in the bench for half a season.

Inter7
31 May 12, 02:38
promising appearance given the team he is playing with... for me he has more potential then i thought for a 20yr old defender very fast pretty good passer of the ball i recall one long one to the corner for hulk i believe he needs more time to gel with his team wether its brazi or us but a very good build and a pretty decent performance for someone making his second app for brazil! well done juan and Forza inter for buying a pretty promising defender!

snake
31 May 12, 03:45
So let's get this straight...he isn't really that strong? Not like Lucio or Samuel? More pace, probably better on shorter/quick players as opposed to stronger players?


Isn't that what we are looking for?

Would he and Samuel complement each other?

Obviously not immediately, but already starting for the NT is good. And EVERYONE and their anal beads know that we need quick defenders to partner what we have now.

thatdude
31 May 12, 04:33
He will be strong and commanding enough as soon as he matures. It has more to do with young mentality then physique. Lets remember this is his second full game after like 5 months. Olympics will be great for him since he's lacking match fitness. Hopefully he'll come back confident after a good showing.

Mad Biscione
31 May 12, 06:39
Loan to Napoli might do him good, or should we play him next season, no reason to bench him, either loan or 1st team

Bzzlightyear
31 May 12, 07:12
So let's get this straight...he isn't really that strong? Not like Lucio or Samuel? More pace, probably better on shorter/quick players as opposed to stronger players?


Isn't that what we are looking for?

Would he and Samuel complement each other?

Obviously not immediately, but already starting for the NT is good. And EVERYONE and their anal beads know that we need quick defenders to partner what we have now.

I hope we can get a young cordoba, he was freaking fast when he used to play :), and its hard to get that kind of defender with speed agility and stamina.

After Cordoba didnt play much, we had slow defenders and tall, that is why small agile players can get passed.

Lets hope he does well. I rather keep him then Give to Napoli for Lavezzi deal

rockball
31 May 12, 07:58
I hope we can get a young cordoba, he was freaking fast when he used to play :), and its hard to get that kind of defender with speed agility and stamina.

After Cordoba didnt play much, we had slow defenders and tall, that is why small agile players can get passed.

Lets hope he does well. I rather keep him then Give to Napoli for Lavezzi deal

Messi never got past our slow and tall defenders.

The reason our defence has sucked the last couple of seasons is cos of poor tactics and organization, and at times brainfarts by Lucio/Chivu etc.

Bzzlightyear
31 May 12, 08:03
Messi never got past our slow and tall defenders.

The reason our defence has sucked the last couple of seasons is cos of poor tactics and organization, and at times brainfarts by Lucio/Chivu etc.

You misunderstand me, what i did tell is we dont have this kind of fast defenders for very long time, the messi part well lets say we had Cuchu and JZ who did great job.

Even i Cordoba was there in his prime time he would still fail as much as the rest of the defenders this year. So right now we could use his type of defender, as we always used to have one small fast defender with one tall defender. There arnt any rules or who is the best mix but what i have seen for the past decade + i realized, that its good to have cordoba type of defenders in a team

MANTA
31 May 12, 12:01
Are there many good Cordoba like defenders anymore? It seems the highest rated CFs today are all big and strong, while the speed has become the exclusive category of fullbacks.

nerazzurri4life
31 May 12, 12:36
Are there many good Cordoba like defenders anymore? It seems the highest rated CFs today are all big and strong, while the speed has become the exclusive category of fullbacks.

Really? Thiago Silva is, imo, the premiere CB of the world right now and he is FAST. Very fast actually. The older defenders are slower (obviously), but to me, the younger up-comers are decently quick/fast enough. I can't think of a single young upcoming CB who is actually slow (like Matrix slow).

As for Juan, I already said, he has to go on loan, for the WHOLE YEAR. He is at the right age where consistent playing and a lower psychological pressure atmosphere is CRUCIAL for his development and confidence. These players, particularly defenders, need room to make errors without overbearing criticism/pressure and grow from them. That is not going to happen to him here at Inter. First, he'll absolutely be behind Samuel in the pecking order and then the minute he gets a game and makes a mistake, it's Samuel back in the lineup for an extended period of time. Young players don't need that.

You can see in the games that he is solid but he is lacking confidence and is a little timid. This is not going to improve by rotting on the bench. He already wasted 4 months rotting on the bench from January. No need to rot on the bench again.

We (Inter), made these investments in these really young players (sub 20) yet we are not managing it properly. Could you imagine what coutinho would be if we loaned him to Espanyol for the WHOLE SEASON last season? As it stands right now, the whole 1st half of the season was a complete waste and he missed out on some really good development for him. Four months of consistent playing and low psychological pressure at espanyol and he is beaming in confidence and already looking like a better player. I have no doubt that if he was there for the year, he would come back to us a much, much better player.

Contrast that with Cas. A whole fuckin year WASTED on the bench. Crucial developmental period for the kid wasted rotting on the bench. Santon played some bad games and the pressure was too much. Pressure too much on Balotelli. Players SUB-20 don't need that kinda shit. Even Frog, who was boss at Bari AND at Genoa AND with Italy is here succumbing to the pressure but more importantly, because of lack of consistent game time.

Unless we have the balls to say fuck you lucio or samuel and let one of these younger players start consistently, then it doesn't make sense having these players rot on the bench. They will not develop playing fucking training games. Personally i think we should be looking at a Frog-Wall combo this year AS THE STARTING CB PAIR. We "invested" almost 20mil on him.

Hugo Boss
31 May 12, 13:34
Really? Thiago Silva is, imo, the premiere CB of the world right now and he is FAST. Very fast actually. The older defenders are slower (obviously), but to me, the younger up-comers are decently quick/fast enough. I can't think of a single young upcoming CB who is actually slow (like Matrix slow).

As for Juan, I already said, he has to go on loan, for the WHOLE YEAR. He is at the right age where consistent playing and a lower psychological pressure atmosphere is CRUCIAL for his development and confidence. These players, particularly defenders, need room to make errors without overbearing criticism/pressure and grow from them. That is not going to happen to him here at Inter. First, he'll absolutely be behind Samuel in the pecking order and then the minute he gets a game and makes a mistake, it's Samuel back in the lineup for an extended period of time. Young players don't need that.

You can see in the games that he is solid but he is lacking confidence and is a little timid. This is not going to improve by rotting on the bench. He already wasted 4 months rotting on the bench from January. No need to rot on the bench again.

We (Inter), made these investments in these really young players (sub 20) yet we are not managing it properly. Could you imagine what coutinho would be if we loaned him to Espanyol for the WHOLE SEASON last season? As it stands right now, the whole 1st half of the season was a complete waste and he missed out on some really good development for him. Four months of consistent playing and low psychological pressure at espanyol and he is beaming in confidence and already looking like a better player. I have no doubt that if he was there for the year, he would come back to us a much, much better player.

Contrast that with Cas. A whole fuckin year WASTED on the bench. Crucial developmental period for the kid wasted rotting on the bench. Santon played some bad games and the pressure was too much. Pressure too much on Balotelli. Players SUB-20 don't need that kinda shit. Even Frog, who was boss at Bari AND at Genoa AND with Italy is here succumbing to the pressure but more importantly, because of lack of consistent game time.

Unless we have the balls to say fuck you lucio or samuel and let one of these younger players start consistently, then it doesn't make sense having these players rot on the bench. They will not develop playing fucking training games. Personally i think we should be looking at a Frog-Wall combo this year AS THE STARTING CB PAIR. We "invested" almost 20mil on him.

Why we should loan him for a WHOLE YEAR, while Brazil already use him for 180 freakin minutes!? Well, it's just two friendlies but i think this Guy has what it takes to stand in our defense with Samuel... :notbad:

nerazzurri4life
31 May 12, 13:46
He is left footed and needs to play on the left side of defense, WHERE SAMUEL IS. He cannot bench Samuel, therefore, will be seeing long spells on the bench.

Doffy
31 May 12, 18:46
i agree but at the end of the day it will all depend on the coach. samuel is one hell of a defender but he is at a point in his career where it will be very difficult for him to keep up. even last season was a disaster with our so called veteran cb's.

juan right now seems to have what it takes but lacks experience so either way it will be a gamble. i guess it will also depend on how he can prove himself with brazil.

rsz85
31 May 12, 20:16
He is left footed and needs to play on the left side of defense, WHERE SAMUEL IS. He cannot bench Samuel, therefore, will be seeing long spells on the bench.

Imo Samuel should be used only in big matches (against stronger opponents), where we should defend deeper, in the box. In that kind of defense Wall-e is worldclass without doubt. so 8-10-15 games per season. and that's enough.

All the other matches: Juan.

nerazzurri4life
31 May 12, 20:33
Imo Samuel should be used only in big matches (against stronger opponents), where we should defend deeper, in the box. In that kind of defense Wall-e is worldclass without doubt. so 8-10-15 games per season. and that's enough.

All the other matches: Juan.

:palm:

You think this is PES/FIFA/FM? You think you can sit an older defender for weeks, then just play him against Juve and Milan? :lol:


Point is, Wall is MILES BETTER than juan. It's technically a no-contest. Any and every sane manager knows this and will without a doubt, play Samuel unless he is injured, which means, rotting on the bench for Juan.

Pajo
31 May 12, 20:35
You can't do that even on FM.

Fapuccino
31 May 12, 21:21
if we use 3 cbs it is pretty manageable.... theres also midweek games for el. he can as a sub/can play as left back, doesnt necessarily have to start cb.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_m7hmfhJPQ

Toninu
31 May 12, 21:38
8-15 games lool less than half a season. This argument on tall defenders being slow is fucking stupid. The defense does not start from the defenders a defender's speed isnt as great a factor unless your side is pushing so far up the field that you need someone fast to recover quickly. A team defends as a whole unit it starts from attack and attack starts from defense. Individual defenders can't carry a team on their own. This was the case under Mou, and this could be the case under Strama even though he has a tendency to leave our team stretched in periods throughout the match and we concede. But with adaptation and with a clear style of play, the only way is up for this team.

snake
31 May 12, 23:02
Just a word to N4L,

Agreed about managing the young players...admittedly, our management struggled with the introducing of these young players (something quite foreign to our setup).


It did not work as well as planned, so loans were our next option. It does not help when those youngsters refuse going out on loan to Serie A teams (Casta).

German_Interista
01 Jun 12, 08:52
if we use 3 cbs it is pretty manageable.... theres also midweek games for el. he can as a sub/can play as left back, doesnt necessarily have to start cb.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_m7hmfhJPQ

He is a similar player like Lucio indeed. Fuck :pokerface: :lol:

junkie
01 Jun 12, 11:00
so juan is going on loan...

http://www.fcinter1908.it/?action=read&idnotizia=54290

crzdcolombian
01 Jun 12, 20:47
so juan is going on loan...

http://www.fcinter1908.it/?action=read&idnotizia=54290

Not a bad thing if he goes to a small team where he will play every game as a starter. I don't get why Udinese sends 10 guys out on loan and they all are starter for their teams. We send all our guys out on loan and they bench or go to 2nd division. How does that help us? Worst case scenario Juan Jesus isn't Inter material but has a decent spell on loan we can sell him for at least what we paid or more.

Fapuccino
01 Jun 12, 23:39
honestly with rannochia and samuel as first cb pair, we can just keep him as replacement. introduce him in el qualifying to settle him down. im sure hes gonna get a lot of confidence and experience playing along thiago silva in olympics

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He is a similar player like Lucio indeed. Fuck :pokerface: :lol:
haha except he can run back towards his own goal without his legs giving out

Pimpin
02 Jun 12, 00:04
and he can actually pass unlike lucio

vasilios
03 Jun 12, 19:02
Starting again against Mexico, match about to start

FORZAINTERMILAN
03 Jun 12, 19:20
he is playing right now. so far his good

rsz85
03 Jun 12, 19:31
and some says he is not enough good for fighting for starting spot at INTER....

HE MUST be a starter with Rano. No question.

Cris
03 Jun 12, 19:39
Just gave away a penalty. Second time he has done the same thing.

|| WS10 ||
03 Jun 12, 19:40
LOL he just have away a PK

thatdude
03 Jun 12, 19:41
And just as that's said he gives up a PK. It was a poor pass that put him in that position however.

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Brazil 2-0 down in the 33rd minute. I'll be interested to see how they react now.

Bill
03 Jun 12, 19:52
Penalty wasn't all his fault. A terrible pass that he tries to recover, sticks a leg out and dos Santos drops at the touch.

Fapuccino
03 Jun 12, 19:57
didnt catch the whole first half, but hes looking a lot more confident. then again ur mentality changes once ur 2-0 down

Cris
03 Jun 12, 20:01
Penalty wasn't all his fault. A terrible pass that he tries to recover, sticks a leg out and dos Santos drops at the touch.He did the exact same thing a few minutes before though.
Other than that he has been solid but most players in a partnership with Thiago Silva will look good.

IRR26
03 Jun 12, 20:06
Other than that he has been solid but most players in a partnership with Thiago Silva will look good.

Why not buying Thiago Silva then. I have heard that Milan struggles to keep their best players. :troll:

DIN011
03 Jun 12, 20:08
and some says he is not enough good for fighting for starting spot at INTER....

HE MUST be a starter with Rano. No question.
:palm:

Mad Biscione
03 Jun 12, 20:11
those one on one situations show his lack of regular play

Fapuccino
03 Jun 12, 20:15
he can defend against fast attackers/counterattacks ....ffs we NEED him

IRR26
03 Jun 12, 20:16
Is Juan Jesus number 14 in game against Mexico?

Cris
03 Jun 12, 20:16
Is Juan Jesus number 14 in game against Mexico?Yes.

Fapuccino
03 Jun 12, 20:16
Is Juan Jesus number 14 in game against Mexico? ye

necrodragon
03 Jun 12, 20:49
not a very good game for him, he was responsible for the penalty I reckon

Bzzlightyear
03 Jun 12, 20:52
we inter fans like to blame on our player. Brazil sucks big time, and blaming on one player is freaking idiotic

IRR26
03 Jun 12, 20:59
It is very good thing that he gets to play tough games in the summer. We can now evaluete if he is ready or not. Hopefully he keeps starting for Brazil.

Fapuccino
03 Jun 12, 21:02
apart from the penalty (i didnt see), he had a pretty good game. comfortable on the ball, positioning seemed to be a bit better than last game, stopped some counters. marcelo though was a beast, attacking and defending wise. best lb in the world no doubt.

Bzzlightyear
03 Jun 12, 21:08
i am tired we feel like we are the best, and no one can touch as, people think its still JM team and we only play with Proven World class players, we need to change our way to think its still 2010 May.

I know we have to watch him if he is a quality player, but come on he is called up, its not random country and random defender, if your called up for Brazil team, then you have earned it. IMFO he is good enough for inter, and to think we have to evaluate, then something is freaking wrong. If we dont give him time to play then we dont even deserve to have any fucking young player at all. SO playing for brazil will not prove if he is World class player or not, when you play for your country some players do well and some fail big time. He will get his time at inter, and he is going to be part of inter ( i hope )

kova9
03 Jun 12, 21:12
he may be making some mistakes, but I like the kid... he is strong, athletic, not slower than Lucio in his prime.. He is going to be a great player in couple of years.. he is only 20.. ;)

Serhio_D
03 Jun 12, 21:13
Well, actually I liked him today.
Except the penalty (which btw wasn't his fault, imho), he looked pretty good, obviously got more confidence or something

thatdude
03 Jun 12, 21:37
I don't think anyone debating whether Juan has the class to play for Inter. The real question is if we should loan him or not. It's a tough call but I would hate to see him play once every 10-15 games next season then make mistakes and lose his confidence. A loan would be the best for him but we have to solve our centerback problems first. It would be ideal if we could loan him for say 2 years and let Samuel start with Rano for that time. Then have him come back and replace Samuel directly.

Fapuccino
03 Jun 12, 22:03
I don't think anyone debating whether Juan has the class to play for Inter. The real question is if we should loan him or not. It's a tough call but I would hate to see him play once every 10-15 games next season then make mistakes and lose his confidence. A loan would be the best for him but we have to solve our centerback problems first. It would be ideal if we could loan him for say 2 years and let Samuel start with Rano for that time. Then have him come back and replace Samuel directly.

f*** that. who knows what could happen in 2 years. hell get plenty of time at inter, with europa league season being a lot longer than cl, and he can play left back as well. we only got samuel and rano as pure cbs, hell be the third choice.

thatdude
03 Jun 12, 22:40
f*** that. who knows what could happen in 2 years. hell get plenty of time at inter, with europa league season being a lot longer than cl, and he can play left back as well. we only got samuel and rano as pure cbs, hell be the third choice.

Ranocchia an Italian at 23 struggled with part time play. I don't see Juan doing any better. And he surely won't be playing left back.

Nerazzurri_Ninja
04 Jun 12, 05:23
Ranocchia an Italian at 23 struggled with part time play. I don't see Juan doing any better. And he surely won't be playing left back.

Samuel is our best CB, and i recall Lucio having a garunteed playing time clause in the contract he signed last summer. We were in bad shape and our coaches decided playing Samuel-Lucio to be our best option. Ranocchia is a great defender, he proved that when he came and played every game alongside 4cb's Lucio, Materazzi, Cordoba, Chivu. At the same time in Copa Italia that we won he came in second only to Zanetti in minutes played. So dont go bashing Ranocchia esp based on his limited time this yr when our midfield and attack was in shambles.

I've watched some of Juans games and he could become a very good player, furthermore he has the right traits to compliment Ranocchia. Only time will tell but IMO Ranocchia should be a starter next yr and if Juan impresses in the olympics then he may well become our 3rd option slowly replacing Samuel.

Mad Biscione
04 Jun 12, 06:10
Juan has plenty of time to get better, he's 21 in a week, David Luiz debuted with NT at 23, Thiago Silva 24, Lucio 23, he's only young competitor for centre back spot Dede at 23

Kraits
04 Jun 12, 07:50
I don't think anyone debating whether Juan has the class to play for Inter. The real question is if we should loan him or not. It's a tough call but I would hate to see him play once every 10-15 games next season then make mistakes and lose his confidence. A loan would be the best for him but we have to solve our centerback problems first. It would be ideal if we could loan him for say 2 years and let Samuel start with Rano for that time. Then have him come back and replace Samuel directly.

Totally agree. He must play. Come back with a super mentality... He shouldn't stay and hope the starters get injured...


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crzdcolombian
04 Jun 12, 15:07
.... this kid has been pretty awful for Brazil and I am scared to see what Messi and company are going to do to him. I say 5-0 easily unless their goalie saves them from a fisting again

Bzzlightyear
04 Jun 12, 15:57
.... this kid has been pretty awful for Brazil and I am scared to see what Messi and company are going to do to him. I say 5-0 easily unless their goalie saves them from a fisting again

And whom should we have, you seen him play twice and you think you know everything about him, he needs time like all young player, tell me whom should we buy or i rather say get a job at inter as director instead Branca and maybe you know who deserve to be at inter and doesnt.

rsz85
04 Jun 12, 16:53
And whom should we have, you seen him play twice and you think you know everything about him, he needs time like all young player, tell me whom should we buy or i rather say get a job at inter as director instead Branca and maybe you know who deserve to be at inter and doesnt.

Zapata or Luis Perea or reactivating Cordoba :troll:

junior55
04 Jun 12, 16:58
And whom should we have, you seen him play twice and you think you know everything about him, he needs time like all young player, tell me whom should we buy or i rather say get a job at inter as director instead Branca and maybe you know who deserve to be at inter and doesnt.

Well if this Juan i've seen with brazil is the same Juan who's going to be our 3rd option in defence next year (and with samuel he would be our 2nd) than there is smth to be worried about. Anyway i hope he grows rapidly with the minutes he's going to take in these months

Fapuccino
04 Jun 12, 17:07
wtf u ppl smoking. he was actually pretty decent, just needs to improve positioning, and needs more presence in set pieces. may i remind u he hadnt played in 6 months thanks to inter.

crzdcolombian
04 Jun 12, 17:19
He should never have been purchased. He need at least 2-3 seasons on loan before he can come here and be our 3rd choice

For the price we paid for him we should have gotten Zapata or at least some player proven in Italy. People talk shit about him but hey he did start for Udi who is way better than any of the teams any of the CBs we are looking at are. We need to stop being mindfucked by agents when they call a player the Next " whoever" and just buy guys who actually play well where it counts.

.h.
04 Jun 12, 17:32
He should never have been purchased. He need at least 2-3 seasons on loan before he can come here and be our 3rd choice

For the price we paid for him we should have gotten Zapata or at least some player proven in Italy. People talk shit about him but hey he did start for Udi who is way better than any of the teams any of the CBs we are looking at are. We need to stop being mindfucked by agents when they call a player the Next " whoever" and just buy guys who actually play well where it counts.

.... What the fuck are you smoking?

The guy signed for us and now has 3 brazil caps. Thats not all that bad - one of the youngest Brazilian CBs in quite a few years to cap for them...

Zapata? How much exactly do you think we paid for Juan Jesus? Or are you doing that thing where you make up prices again? Like where you made up some complete BS about how much we paid for Jonathan and Alvarez?

We paid like 4 million euros for Juan Jesus, I dont for a second believe Zapata is that cheap

Ffi201zi002tlis
04 Jun 12, 17:45
Can Falcao play as CB ? :yuno:

Fapuccino
04 Jun 12, 17:48
He should never have been purchased. He need at least 2-3 seasons on loan before he can come here and be our 3rd choice

For the price we paid for him we should have gotten Zapata or at least some player proven in Italy. People talk shit about him but hey he did start for Udi who is way better than any of the teams any of the CBs we are looking at are. We need to stop being mindfucked by agents when they call a player the Next " whoever" and just buy guys who actually play well where it counts.

come on dude.... dont judge him if you havent watched him play for at least a season. if menezes picked him, friendly or not, means that him and his staff know about the players status more than we do.

vitomins
04 Jun 12, 18:47
.... What the fuck are you smoking?

The guy signed for us and now has 3 brazil caps. Thats not all that bad - one of the youngest Brazilian CBs in quite a few years to cap for them...

Zapata? How much exactly do you think we paid for Juan Jesus? Or are you doing that thing where you make up prices again? Like where you made up some complete BS about how much we paid for Jonathan and Alvarez?

We paid like 4 million euros for Juan Jesus, I dont for a second believe Zapata is that cheap


Recent Center Backs for Brazil:

Luisão: 20 years, 5 months old
Juan Jesus: 20 years, 11 months old
Alex: 21 years old
Henrique: 21 years old
Bruno Uvini: 21 years old (1 minute)
Roque Júnior: 22 years old
Alex Silva: 22 years old
Juan: 22 years old
Lucio: 22 years old
Aldair: 23 years old
Ânderson Polga: 23 years old
David Luiz: 23 years old
Thiago Silva: 23 years old
Dedé: 23 years old
Cris: 24 years old
Edmílson: 24 years old
Naldo: 24 years old
Miranda: 24 years old
Júnior Baiano: 27 years old
Marcelo Bordon: 28 years old
Fábio Luciano: 28 years old
Réver: 25 years old
Edu Dracena: 26 years old
Gonçalves: 30 years old


I honestly can only think of 1 player that earned his first cap for Brazil as a center back that was younger than Juan Jesus. That is Luisão and he only beat Juan Jesus by 6 months. I am sure there are others, but your probably have to go back more than 20 years to find them.

.h.
04 Jun 12, 19:52
great post vito..

Handoyo
05 Jun 12, 03:59
That's fucking sick. :pokerface: I don't know how the hell you just pull such thing out of your hat vitoman.

junior55
05 Jun 12, 07:42
Don't forget that we are talking about the olympic team here and not the main 1st team of brazil.

He is probably the best of the u-23 cb of brazil and that's why he plays as a starter , which in any case is a good news for us.

vitomins
05 Jun 12, 15:28
Don't forget that we are talking about the olympic team here and not the main 1st team of brazil.

He is probably the best of the u-23 cb of brazil and that's why he plays as a starter , which in any case is a good news for us.


Huh? My stats are when players made their first appearance for the main Brazilian NT. Even though the last few friendlies contained many U-23 players, they were still main NT matches. Juan is the youngest center back to cap for Brazil since Luisão in 2001.

Big Willy
05 Jun 12, 15:32
For the price we paid for him we should have gotten Zapata.

:serious:

Have you watched him in Villarreal?

Hasan
05 Jun 12, 15:41
Guy needs a chance! No fucking loans any more please, we have lost many great talents in loan deals. No more co ownership deals please, we have lost many great talents there too plus we have paid huge amounts for other halfs when player becomes gem.

We're not City, Paris, Real or Barca. We can't aford 25 milion centre back. We should give a chance to Juan, Ranochia etc. They will be motivated for sure plus they have great mentor in Samuel.

junior55
05 Jun 12, 15:42
Huh? My stats are when players made their first appearance for the main Brazilian NT. Even though the last few friendlies contained many U-23 players, they were still main NT matches. Juan is the youngest center back to cap for Brazil since Luisão in 2001.

I am not saying anything against the stat but i am trying to interpret them.

It's different if the NT is preparing for the World Cup or qualifications and Juan gains his first cap benching i don't know Lucio , Juan (roma) etc and it's different if the NT is preparing for the Olympics and the players who are benched are Dede , Uvini etc .

Yes they were NT matches but Menenez has declared that he will prepare his olympic team through this friendlies . I seriously doubt that Juan would even be called up otherwise.

vitomins
06 Jun 12, 18:09
I am not saying anything against the stat but i am trying to interpret them.

It's different if the NT is preparing for the World Cup or qualifications and Juan gains his first cap benching i don't know Lucio , Juan (roma) etc and it's different if the NT is preparing for the Olympics and the players who are benched are Dede , Uvini etc .

Yes they were NT matches but Menenez has declared that he will prepare his olympic team through this friendlies . I seriously doubt that Juan would even be called up otherwise.


So in the 20 years prior to this year, Brazil never prepared for the Olympics? Brazil played in the Olympics in 1996, 2000 and 2008, so the same could have happened for another CB.

MANTA
06 Jun 12, 20:09
Guy needs a chance! No fucking loans any more please, we have lost many great talents in loan deals. No more co ownership deals please, we have lost many great talents there too plus we have paid huge amounts for other halfs when player becomes gem.

We're not City, Paris, Real or Barca. We can't aford 25 milion centre back. We should give a chance to Juan, Ranochia etc. They will be motivated for sure plus they have great mentor in Samuel.

I disagree. If you have a great talent and you need to develop him, he needs to play, and I mean real matches not just practice. If you can't risk giving an inexperienced player some playing time, then you are better off loaning him to another club. This is where developing talents in La Liga is so much easier. Clubs there have B teams where developing players can play in lower division games. They get far more experience there than warming the bench of the first team, and you can call them up if needed (due to injury or whatever). English clubs have reserves. The concept is the same, you can give new players the experience needed to grow.

In Serie A your only hope is loaning or co-ownership. Sitting on the bench will never develop talent.

KillerKarl86
06 Jun 12, 23:20
A loan wouldn't be bad for Jesus, he's still very young.

I reckon this guy will become a great center back for us, to be starting games for the Brazil team at his age speaks volumes.

And as i said before, he's called Jesus FFS!! He has to be good with a name like that lol



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9w9EiLTZ_A

crzdcolombian
09 Jun 12, 20:28
He is starting against Argentina in their 2-2 draw so far. http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/442fever.com is a link to watch the game

Argentina has their full NT squad they used to beat Ecuador 4-0. Kind of sad the game is tied. Looks like Brazils 1st team would score 10 on this Argentina. It's really Messi + 10 other dudes

Fapuccino
09 Jun 12, 20:50
messi.....completely fucking raped him......