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Lionheart
06 Jul 12, 10:39
:work:
Officially signed & guess who was the fastest to open the thread bitchez!!! :boogy:


http://www.inter.it/aas/img/168046-500.jpg . http://www.inter.it/aas/img/168047.jpg
Full name: Matías Agustín Silvestre
Date of birth: 25 September 1984
Place of birth: Mercedes, Argentina
Height: 1.84 m (6 ft 1⁄2 in)



"The U.S. Città di Palermo announces that it has sold Matias Silvestre to FC Internazionale. The defender arrives at the Milan club on loan with the right of redemption."

http://palermocalcio.it/it/1213/news/scheda.php?id=26885



First of all, welcome to the great Internazionale. Please be a 8055 with less brain farts as possible (unlike that Frog). Fill up Lucio's spot as good as you can. Your countryman, the great Wally, will stand right by you. Just please do your job as good as you can, cuz Interisti hate to see Chivu play.

Hopefully if all goes well, you'll be a permanent Inter player, win lots of trophies with us, identify yourself with the club & give your sole to it.......... & at some point, as a sign of gratitude for your services, your contract will get rescinded.

:yao:

Salute.

Bzzlightyear
06 Jul 12, 10:44
Welcome to inter, best wishes to you.

I thought we bought him already, but it as it looks its just a loan, at list we got the best out of this deal, if he fails we wont bother to buy him, but as it looks like no defender can fail as much as we did last season, so once more best of luck at inter

Devious
06 Jul 12, 11:47
Welcome Stallone!

Bzzlightyear
06 Jul 12, 11:48
Welcome Stallone!

I thought Milito is Stallone

Lionheart
06 Jul 12, 11:50
On another note, is he going to get Cordoba's number 2?

monster09
06 Jul 12, 11:56
How good is he? I haven't watched him play but I used to buy him on FM when I started saves with smaller teams.

Is he good enough to start for Inter or as a rotational player?

Oh and Good luck Silvestre.

Bzzlightyear
06 Jul 12, 11:59
On another note, is he going to get Cordoba's number 2?

IF Cordoba in prime then i would be happy, but i dont see him as fast as When cordoba was in his prime time

Verathia
06 Jul 12, 12:00
Welcome!

IRR26
06 Jul 12, 12:07
It is a loan which is good. Management is clearly more carefull with money. Now they just need to learn how to jugde players abilities.

A.l.i
06 Jul 12, 12:12
Manage Human resources well.

szasza02
06 Jul 12, 12:44
be a 8055
...'cause nothing less is acceptable. welcome Matt, get it on now, will ya!

Pajo
06 Jul 12, 13:31
How good is he? I haven't watched him play but I used to buy him on FM when I started saves with smaller teams.

Is he good enough to start for Inter or as a rotational player?

Oh and Good luck Silvestre.

I like him a lot as player, wanted him when he was at Catania, but he went to Palermo. Strong, good with his head. Reminds me on Samuel, but a bit faster.

I think he is good enough to start. But i dont think no one should have automatic starting spot in the team, so whoever is in best form should start. That's about it.

Welcome Matias. All the best in this holy jersey :) Great deal, even if he doesn;t turn out to be good for us, we won't redeem him. And if we do, 8 mils is NOTHING in this retarded world. It's only one more than what Palermo paid for him. Fairly low wages, in his best years and probably motivated anough to be playing in big club for the first time. Looks great so far, let's see how he settles now.

kova9
06 Jul 12, 13:56
Welcome Silvestre! Hope you make us forget about Lucio's crap..

P.S. We couldn't even buy him.. LOL.. It's a loan for 2 million € with option to buy for 6, 6.5 million.. LOL..

http://translate.google.hr/translate?hl=hr&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcinternews.it%2F%3Faction%3Dre ad%26idnotizia%3D85172

Solfice
06 Jul 12, 13:58
I doubt it that we didn't buy him because we couldn't. Just a precaution. If he fails then we can just send him back and no big loss in money.

Anyway, welcome and good luck!

nerazzurri4life
06 Jul 12, 14:02
Win-win situation for us with this deal.

Gotta laugh at Zamparini though. All this tough talk about Milan clubs being "poor" and how Silvestre will be all cash, no trades, 10mil blah blah blah
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

skyline1908
06 Jul 12, 14:10
Welcome Matias, hope you can contribute our team well.

Very good deal, im happy.

Bzzlightyear
06 Jul 12, 14:13
Win-win situation for us with this deal.

Gotta laugh at Zamparini though. All this tough talk about Milan clubs being "poor" and how Silvestre will be all cash, no trades, 10mil blah blah blah
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

MM made an offer he couldnt refuse :)

crzdcolombian
06 Jul 12, 14:18
On another note, is he going to get Cordoba's number 2? Hope they give that to Rano to make him stay. This was a great deal worst case scenerio we wasted 2 million euro but best case scenerio we get a starting CB for 8.5 million which is a great deal. I don't really rate him too highly or think he is that fast but would love to be proven wrong. Anyone is better than Chivu or Lucio

Pajo
06 Jul 12, 14:24
Win-win situation for us with this deal.

Gotta laugh at Zamparini though. All this tough talk about Milan clubs being "poor" and how Silvestre will be all cash, no trades, 10mil blah blah blah
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

n4l laugted at someone else and kinda praised move of ours... :proud:

nerazzurri4life
06 Jul 12, 14:41
I won't go as far as praising the move. I praised Guarin's move since imo, he is 100% a high quality player and a definite improvement. This move is just NOT BAD (there goes Inter's new "it could be worse" mentality :palm:) and our risk is relatively low. I don't think Silvestre is high quality. Whether or not he is an improvement, we'll see.

Fitzy
06 Jul 12, 14:53
Loan with right to redemption... :notbad:


Gives us some depth in the correct position... and if he's not good enough we tell him to gtfo. Good move

pupivn
06 Jul 12, 14:55
it seems that Inter like player named Silvestre, Mikel before and now Matias

_Ivan_
06 Jul 12, 15:14
WELCOME :)

vasilios
06 Jul 12, 15:27
Poll added

German_Interista
06 Jul 12, 17:45
Apparently nevertheless a great deal. Welcome. I hope that he will show that he is worse to wear our colors. Forza Silvestre :slick:

skeet
06 Jul 12, 17:56
he scored as many league goals as pazzini last season :pokerface:

FORZAINTERMILAN
06 Jul 12, 18:43
Welcome! GOOD LUCK! make it is for JC or Handanovic!

Universe
06 Jul 12, 19:21
:fu: Damn you Dara. I want to start a player thread :fu:




Hope they give that to Rano to make him stay. This was a great deal worst case scenerio we wasted 2 million euro but best case scenerio we get a starting CB for 8.5 million which is a great deal. I don't really rate him too highly or think he is that fast but would love to be proven wrong. Anyone is better than Chivu or Lucio

I don't think giving Ranocchia a shirt number would convince him to stay so easily. Not to mention, I'm sure he's perfectly happy wearing the number Matrix handed down to him.

vasilios
06 Jul 12, 19:23
:fu: Damn you Dara. I want to start a player thread :fu:

I'm sure there will be another opportunity soon http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6779/mudi1.png

Coasterfreek
06 Jul 12, 19:24
Welcome!

Iron_Inter
06 Jul 12, 19:45
Welcome to the family. Another Argentinian, i hope to be success for bringing him here.

Besnik
06 Jul 12, 19:55
Welcome to the Inter family :)

Considering that our defence has been pretty awful in the last couple of seasons, he should bring some upgrade though. Wish him best of luck with the new Inter-adventure.

Lionheart
06 Jul 12, 20:28
:fu: Damn you Dara. I want to start a player thread :fu:

AUW! Sorry, but by the time it got official, you were in bed! I wanted to open a player too on FIF so bad. That's one of FIF's most prestigious accomplishments. Everybody knows that without a player thread you'll simply have no OG status.

The word on the streets was that this dude will be signed today, so I refreshed the fuck outta Google Chrome every minute since I woke up & as soon as I saw some official shit, I opened that shit, quick like a motherfucker.

I hope god & luck will be on your side next time.


I'm sure there will be another opportunity soon http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6779/mudi1.png

Bwahahaha! Epic!!! See Uni! Mudinhomo is on his way! :lol:

Coasterfreek
06 Jul 12, 21:38
AUW! Sorry, but by the time it got official, you were in bed! I wanted to open a player too on FIF so bad. That's one of FIF's most prestigious accomplishments. Everybody knows that without a player thread you'll simply have no OG status.

The word on the streets was that this dude will be signed today, so I refreshed the fuck outta Google Chrome every minute since I woke up & as soon as I saw some official shit, I opened that shit, quick like a motherfucker.


I don't even try. It always happens at 3AM local time for me. One time I could've stayed up for when Ranieri was hired but I figured it won't matter. I don't think Uni was sleeping when the announcement was made.

Choppin Onions
06 Jul 12, 22:11
A loan deal with an option to buy for relatively cheap? Someone give Branca a blowjob

Coasterfreek
06 Jul 12, 22:42
A loan deal with an option to buy for relatively cheap? Someone give Branca a blowjob

Isn't the option a little cheaper than what Palermo paid for him?

Minardista
06 Jul 12, 22:47
I doubt it that we didn't buy him because we couldn't.
One word.

MUDINGAYI

:work:

skeet
06 Jul 12, 22:50
One word.

MUDINGAYI

:work:

how about we stop shitting on branca for things that haven't actually happened?

Minardista
06 Jul 12, 22:58
how about we stop shitting on branca for things that haven't actually happened?
How many times do I have to post sarcastic shit for people to get that all I ever do is post sarcastic shit?

OK, let's just explain the basic guidelines for understanding posts by kostas22;

Any post under 10 words is a guaranteed piss-take.
Any post under 50 words is a light-hearted jibe or deliberate overreaction for effect.
Any post over 50 words is me fucking raging at something.

Are we all clear now?

Caecuban
07 Jul 12, 01:38
Welcome Silvestre!

What have you done with the hair? :awyeah:

Michael
07 Jul 12, 06:23
http://fedenerazzurra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Screen-Shot-2012-07-06-at-8.33.43-PM.png

SILVESTRE RAISES THE INTER WALL

“Finally I get to meet Samuel and being Lucio’s replacement does not scare me.”
“Milan were interested? Thank you but I wanted the Nerazzurri.”
“I already have many friends here and it is such pride of being able to contribute to the new cycle after the treble.”

Milan – The wall is getting taller: in fact, doubled. Student Matias Silvestre has finally met his master Walter Samuel, one that he never had a chance to meet, let alone play together at Boca Juniors. The newest Argentinian defender of Inter recalls back to 2000 in his Boca Juniors days and his memories are still sharp: “I was 16 years old and had just been called up to the first team so I never played with him but it has always been my desire. So now I can fulfill a dream as a teenager, to form a defensive pair with Walter Samuel.”

He is not the only Argentinian at Inter.
“Well yes. With Rodrigo Palacio, we played together at Boca and he is a dear friend. In recent weeks I have had so many text messages begging me not to go to Milan. But yeah, all the Argentinians here will be my point of reference.”

Starting with the captain.
“Certainly. Zanetti has always been an example for me since I was at Boca. And now I get to play with him here. I will listen to his advice, a fortune that I could not imagine until now.”

Milan would have had focused in on you if they sold Thiago Silva? What would you say to that?
“I cannot be more honored with such comparison. However, I must be honest, I had another club in mind. In these two months I left my agent Pablo Cosentino to do his job although I always rooted for the Nerazzurri to be the final solution. I always thought of the idea of wearing this shirt. The recent years as well as the treble have enthused me a lot and now I will do my part with pride to start a new cycle.”

You are going to take place of an important player in Lucio.
“It is not going to be easy. Lucio’s career speaks for itself. Even I also like to dribble the ball with my feet from my penalty area but rest assured: I won’t go overboard. I know that I have to work hard to deserve a place in this team and my main goal is just that.”

You were not born as a defender.
“In fact, as a kid, I was a midfielder and my idol as Redondo. The Basile placed me in the back and now I thank him. As a central defender I have the right experience to tackle the tests at Inter.”

Andrea Ranocchia will want the starting spot.
“He has great qualities. But I will play my cards knowing that at this level, there are no starters or reserves.”

At Boca Juniors, you won a lot.
“It was an incredible experience. Carlos Bianchi believed in me and that glorious club has had so many quality players. All the experience that I learned from that will now come in handy. This new Inter also gives me a lot of confidence. With the enthusiasm of the new and the experience of the historic nucleus that Inter have, we can start opening a beautiful era together.”

You are a defender with many goals: what’s the secret?
“Yes, I have many goals in my career but the important thing is to defend well and then you can attack. Of course I will go forward in free kick situations.”

How do you practice with these headers?
“Actually I learned a lot as a kid at Club Parque, where many champions like Cambiasso and Tevez were there. There was a special machine, a bar with a ball tied to it. This machine will always keep on moving and we have to hit it. That has helped me a lot in terms of timing. The best secret for playing in the air.”

Just like Samuel.
“He is also a specialist in this sense, from him I can always learn more even if we have different characteristics.”

What do you have to say about Milito?
“All the good things. I faced him many times and it has always been a pain. With him up front, goals are a sure thing.”

Can you explain what your origins are because thanks to which, you have an Italian passport.
“My mom’s family is originally from Castano Primo, in the province of Milan and not far away from Appiano Gentile. I am going to go there soon and I am curious to find out if there are still my close relatives. For example, the mayor is Franco Rudoni and has the same last name as my mother. It was fate that I came here.”

You just got married.
“It is a very beautiful moment in my life. Two weeks ago, there was a weeding with Lucia after ten years of being together and we just returned from our honeymoon in Dubai. We knew each other from school and we are going to find a house here in Milan. I do not know yet whether it is in or outside the city center. We will see where, after training camp we’ll choose.”

Prandelli thought about giving you a call for the Euro.
“I read that in the newspaper and I couldn’t be more happy. But my first goal now is to conquer a place at Inter but if this helps me convince Prandelli…”

But you also heard from the Argentinian national team no?
“To say the truth, in the past few weeks, I called Sabella, the Argentinian coach, just to tell him my intention. Perhaps even he heard about the interest coming from Italy. But it is too early to address this issue. I am only thinking about Inter. This is the opportunity of my life and I want to take advantage of it.”

The experiences at Catania and Palermo were important.
“Without a doubt. I learned about the difficulties of the Italian League and I did well in both cities. I also would like to take this opportunity and thank them especially president Zamparini who realized that this opportunity was very important for me.”

Sid
07 Jul 12, 07:50
welcome Silvestre :thumbsup:

Solfice
07 Jul 12, 08:14
He seems to be really motivated! (Y) Just got married and now get to play in Inter with many of his idols.:notbad: Best of luck to him!

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/168072.jpg

Suneet
07 Jul 12, 10:59
I like the transfer deal in this one. We get what we pay for, but with our finances we need one of these 'gambles' to pay off big time.

Caecuban
07 Jul 12, 17:53
I have a feeling Silvestre will be a great defender and will deliver much more than we are expecting for a "low" cost.

dynasty27
08 Jul 12, 11:09
He seems to be really motivated! (Y) Just got married and now get to play in Inter with many of his idols.:notbad: Best of luck to him!

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/168072.jpgLooks like a legit Serie A dude whos nothing to fuck with.

5 goals in 29 games with Palermo, :notbad: either.


or maybe he's just looking at someone's ass
Hohoho a "joke"

.h.
08 Jul 12, 11:12
or maybe he's just looking at someone's ass

Nerazzurri_Ninja
08 Jul 12, 18:04
I have always thought Silvestre was a good player, i dont like the idea of him taking time from Ranocchia but who knows they could end up being our new duo with Samuel sadly aging. I would have perferred Ezequiel Munoz from Palermo but whats done is done and i hope Silvestre can make us one of the best defences in Serie A again not to mention score us some winning goals.

Fitzy
22 Jul 12, 04:03
Gotta say I was impressed with him against Milan.

b4h4mooth
22 Jul 12, 04:20
wow this guy is awesome...looks cool, calm but beast...better than lucio...smart move by branca and co.....thumbs up for this transfer. Last thing he knoct out El sharawy out of the ring lol

king_elnino
22 Jul 12, 06:35
A beast start from him...

chipschups
22 Jul 12, 06:38
he took down sharaawy with great tackle,,,
cant wait him to break another juBe and BBilan player legs

Caecuban
22 Jul 12, 14:22
very nice matches by him in the tim cup

crzdcolombian
22 Jul 12, 15:07
wow this guy is awesome...looks cool, calm but beast...better than lucio...smart move by branca and co.....thumbs up for this transfer. Last thing he knoct out El sharawy out of the ring lol

Too early to tell but man we need someone to bench Chivu and Samuel. Those guys make me scared anytime they get attacked

Pajo
22 Jul 12, 16:10
Too early to tell but man we need someone to bench Chivu and Samuel. Those guys make me scared anytime they get attacked

WTF is your problem with Samuel?

Universe
22 Jul 12, 16:13
Agreed. Samuel is still our best CB. The others (Ranocchia, Silvestre, Chivu) need to earn their place alongside him.

Sokrates
22 Jul 12, 17:08
WTF is your problem with Samuel?

He's argentinian... :troll:

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9000 mit Tapatalk 2

Caecuban
23 Jul 12, 02:11
He's argentinian... :troll:

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9000 mit Tapatalk 2

therefore, not colombian :troll:

Vibe
02 Aug 12, 20:39
:pokerface:

Big Willy
02 Aug 12, 20:40
We've gave Ranocchia a lot of matches waiting him to improve... I'll do the same with Silvestre, he was very solid in the pre-season.

crzdcolombian
02 Aug 12, 20:42
therefore, not colombian :troll:

Yup because our CBs are actually good. This dude sucks. Bring mores CBs !!!! This is probably the worst team we playd this preseason

Jimmy
02 Aug 12, 20:49
Oh great, we gotta listen to this hatred for at least another year too.

Give us a fucking break dude. Yes, we KNOW NOW that you hate Silvestre, you don't need to spew that shit in every topic available (come one, we both know you will) until he leaves. At the end of the day it will get old, you will get older, you will realize we're not all just kids here.

Ed.
02 Aug 12, 20:49
Yes. this was the worst team. Should have played Falcao as CB instead of Silvestre.

DanHoe
02 Aug 12, 20:50
Off with his fucking head!! :palm:

It's our first competitive fixture for fucks sake.

The_Eradicator
28 Aug 12, 06:42
Had a couple of nervy moments but overall was very solid against Pescara. At the present I have no problem with him starting alongside Rano and Samuel remaining on the bench. For a new signing it seems like half the fans have forgotten him already lol, even the commentators on my TV station couldn't of mentioned his name more than 3/4 times the entire game...

thatdude
28 Aug 12, 15:29
Better like that for a defender I guess.

I like him and Rano, they should definitely stay the starters until further notice. They're the pairing that's closest to their prime and need time to gel. I have a fear when Chivu comes back Strama will try Chivu - Rano as we lack a centerback that's good on the ball.

DARi0
29 Aug 12, 07:21
Still insecure and has marking problems!! I hope he can improve, because so far we managed to avoid getting goals not because of his great defending, but because of the opponent's poor finishing.

Vibe
02 Sep 12, 20:28
This guy concedes us 3 goals tonight...

La Brujita
02 Sep 12, 20:31
Fucking incompetent asshole. How is he better than Lucio? Lucio with one leg is twice as better


Is this piece of shit on loan? I want him gone tbh? What a shithead.

Nightwalker
02 Sep 12, 20:57
So far he has failed to impress me at all...
Even when we were playing against 2 average opponents in the EL qualifications, he was the nervy one and the likeliest to make a mistake. :S

uny_arturo
02 Sep 12, 21:01
It's not like we didn't know he made plenty of mistakes back in Palermo. It's just that you guys have too high of an expectation from him. Granted, I see him and Juan on the same line. He did have a good first half - improved a lot since the nervous Vaslui game. But I don't know how he managed to lose all the concentration of the 2nd half.

Calm down guys. Y'all only blame the defenders when shit happens. Perhaps also ask why the attacking department isn't doing enough to relieve the pressure?

William
02 Sep 12, 21:06
Though the 1st was because guarin stopped running and let the forward keep running leaving silvestre stranded between 2

NeonBlade
02 Sep 12, 21:45
He's incompetent, his defending and ball watching today remind me of his defending when he was at Palermo.

Dylan
02 Sep 12, 21:47
So you guys want defenders who are relatively young but with Serie A experience who also don't make mistakes?

We'd have to pay alot more than 8 million for that :)

La Brujita
02 Sep 12, 21:50
So you guys want defenders who are relatively young but with Serie A experience who also don't make mistakes?

We'd have to pay alot more than 8 million for that :)

Dude is 28. Only in Zanetti years that's considered young.

sanka
02 Sep 12, 21:52
He deserves the 'Rivas' award for his tonight play.

Dylan
02 Sep 12, 22:03
Dude is 28. Only in Zanetti years that's considered young.

Relatively young I said. Compared with Samuel and Lucio.

Mino
02 Sep 12, 22:21
it's so fucking stupid buying a CB from one of the worst defending teams in serie A

i remember zamparini whining like a little bitch about his team's defense

Iron_Inter
02 Sep 12, 22:23
His positioning was bad this game, specialy for the second goal and maybe third, but the first goal was not his fault at all.Some of you are overreacting way to much.

Fapuccino
02 Sep 12, 22:26
hes only on loan. thank god

Inter7
03 Sep 12, 00:14
His positioning was bad this game, specialy for the second goal and maybe third, but the first goal was not his fault at all.Some of you are overreacting way to much.

i disagree first goal he was lost wasnt marking anyone someone made a ghost run behind him and thats why we conceded. he had a horrible game no doubt but not ready to condemn him yet

skeet
03 Sep 12, 01:47
roma was his third full match in 1 week and he was visibly exhausted in the second half, he has been good so far so cut the guy a break and hope that strama figures out a better rotation in two weeks

Il Divin Codino
03 Sep 12, 02:43
imo not his fault any of the goals except maybe the second one, but in that case it was also Ranocchia's fault. The first one was a mistake of Gargano who didn't chase the Roma player, and the third one was Castelazzi's mistake

Nyall
03 Sep 12, 04:04
Wow, missed the game caught the highlights but i must note that this guy is kinda bad...

Like part of made Wally so great was how well he was able to read the game and as a result stay in front of his man.. Matias doesn't do that and looked sorta amateurish, tbh.. but it's still early and it's only a loan, at this point I really advocate for him leaving it's way too early but I can't argue for him staying either though..

Big Willy
03 Sep 12, 04:13
He had an horrible match, but I still think he's a good defender.

The guy was very good with Catania and Palermo, and had some solid games with us (Can't remember if it was vs. Pescara or Vaslui in Romania) I'll give him time to settle in the squad.

Did y'all forgot too, that Ranocchia (For example) wasn't particularly good in his first matches. Actually, it looks as if he's just settling in the team, after TWO seasons.

Ffi201zi002tlis
03 Sep 12, 04:24
dude should learn something from Samuel :cereal: of course not his speed :oblivious:

sergiu.inter
03 Sep 12, 09:31
dude, GTFO...you're not INTER material....

DARi0
03 Sep 12, 10:07
Still insecure and has marking problems!! I hope he can improve, because so far we managed to avoid getting goals not because of his great defending, but because of the opponent's poor finishing.
Told you :pokerface:

I don't know what's wrong with Silvestre, but his positioning and marking skills are below-par ever since we've signed him.

If he doesn't pull his shit together, we will be raped by valuable forwards.

Batman
03 Sep 12, 11:52
He costed us 3 goals last night?? He is asshole, piece of shit, not Inter material.. GTFO!!


You guys are hilarious really.

Efrain21C
03 Sep 12, 11:56
He costed us 3 goals last night?? He is asshole, piece of shit, not Inter material.. GTFO!!


You guys are hilarious really.

welcome to FIF

Ed.
03 Sep 12, 17:40
He costed us 3 goals last night?? He is asshole, piece of shit, not Inter material.. GTFO!!


You guys are hilarious really.

just don't let I4E see those 2 word.. :lol:

CafeCordoba
03 Sep 12, 17:52
He cost us that third goal. Second goal was partly his fault but the situation arised so fast and no one got Totti when he was able to place that perfect throughpass. First goal was Gargano's.

Dylan
03 Sep 12, 18:02
Considering that our 1st choice GK is injured (Also would be a new partnership), Ranocchia is entering his first Inter season as first choice and hasn't even played a handful of games partnered with Silvestre and lastly the fact that any number of Zanetti, Nagatomo, Jonathan or Pereira will start in 2 places and other than Zanetti none of them are particularly solid defensively then I'd say give him more than a few games to settle in. I'm glad he's making these mistakes now and not in a crucial EL knockout ( Assuming we take it seriously)

We should learn from Ranocchia's case, regardless of age, let the players settle and play regularly with each other. If you don't let them get over the mistakes and just bench them and swap with the CB that's making the most mistakes (Be it Chivu, Samuel or Frog) then we're right back at a situation like Schalke.

A major fact of our treble success was that 4 of the back 5 (GK) had played with each other regularly for years! We only had to let Lúcio settle in.

Pajo
03 Sep 12, 18:39
I think he will get better. He even looks afraid to tackle players. THe postioning problems are everyones, i can see we are trying zonal marking, but players aren't covered enough.

Though, the second goal was all his imo. Rano went for Totti, Zanetti was on the right, and Silvestre, was nowhere to be seen. He should have been in the EXACTLY the same spot where Osvaldo was. The third goal is mainly Castes, Silvestre did lose his player, but it was the bad positioning and deciosion making by Caste that cost us the goal.

sanka
03 Sep 12, 18:41
The difference is it's not Palermo here, maybe he'll stop shittin his pants and try to get into the game.

He was absolutely nowhere yesterday.

Even my dick iz higher from Florenzi to avoid his header.Gimme a fucken break.Right?

NeonBlade
03 Sep 12, 18:57
I cannot understand how anyone can say Ranocchia had a share of the blame in the first goal. Rano was dick to ass on Osvaldo, the man he was supposed to be marking. Gargano lost the Roma player, but worse Silvestre was ball watching he was marking no one. He was in such a bad position.

I refuse to blame Casta for the third goal as well. If Silvestre had kept tighter to the Roma player, instead of sticking out his foot, losing pace allowing that window for the shot to be taken Casta did the right thing.

Bill
03 Sep 12, 19:30
Blaming any of the goals on one single player is kind of dumb IMO...it's not like one man was a singular cause for any of the goals.

1st goal was an unmarked runner from the midfield that neither Guarin or Gargano followed. Matias is at fault for failing to be proactive in defense.
2nd goal was a ball lost in the midfield against a coach that makes a living on counter attacks. Gargano overcommitted on Totti and the CBs were too wide.
3rd goal was a brilliant piece of finishing in my opinion. Both Cast and Matias could have been positioned better obviously.

nerazzurri4life
03 Sep 12, 21:56
He is an average CB. I said so when we were rumored to him.

People should really lower their expectations. Don't expect great things from him. He is competent; meaning he will be a solid 6.5/10 most of the times. But don't expect too many 9/10s or 3/10s, which imo, isn't bad.

Imo, all our goals yesterday came from midfield. Guarin and Pereira were too wide and Gargano is too aggressive; left too much space for Roma to operate.

junior55
03 Sep 12, 22:38
Rano was dick to ass on Osvaldo, the man he was supposed to be marking. :notbad:

Ed.
03 Sep 12, 23:59
Considering that our 1st choice GK is injured (Also would be a new partnership), Ranocchia is entering his first Inter season as first choice and hasn't even played a handful of games partnered with Silvestre and lastly the fact that any number of Zanetti, Nagatomo, Jonathan or Pereira will start in 2 places and other than Zanetti none of them are particularly solid defensively then I'd say give him more than a few games to settle in. I'm glad he's making these mistakes now and not in a crucial EL knockout ( Assuming we take it seriously)

We should learn from Ranocchia's case, regardless of age, let the players settle and play regularly with each other. If you don't let them get over the mistakes and just bench them and swap with the CB that's making the most mistakes (Be it Chivu, Samuel or Frog) then we're right back at a situation like Schalke.

A major fact of our treble success was that 4 of the back 5 (GK) had played with each other regularly for years! We only had to let Lúcio settle in.

Back 7 tbh including the 2 DM (Cuchu and JZ).

Doffy
04 Sep 12, 00:06
*coughsakho*

silvestre lol. meh let juan jesus play instead. ranocchia is a fucking boss though, finally he is showing signs about how good he could be.

acidmorph
04 Sep 12, 12:37
Please no redemption...

Aurimas
07 Sep 12, 22:27
That really crazy guy, Zamparini on Silvestre: "we sold him not because of money, but because we didn't like him. He cost us many goals, so that's why we gave him to Inter"

La Brujita
08 Sep 12, 07:23
That really crazy guy, Zamparini on Silvestre: "we sold him not because of money, but because we didn't like him. He cost us many goals, so that's why we gave him to Inter"

LOOOL. He already cost us at least 2 :palm:

Zamparini being his troll self :trollol:

Wallace
08 Sep 12, 08:14
I love Silvestre, he reminds me of another Inter legend in Mikael Silvestre.

sanka
08 Sep 12, 08:24
☒ Press the unthank button.

DARi0
10 Sep 12, 09:18
quote of the Zampa:


"We did not let Silvestre leave for the money, we got rid of him because I did not like him," he was quoted as saying by Calciomercato Sicilia.

"We conceded a lot of goals with him in defence, so we decided to let Inter have him."


Talking trash does not seem smart, as it can lower his price-tag and what if Inter does not buy him after the 1 year loan? :challenge:

...unless we made a deal consisting in buying Silvestre outright next season no matter what :pokerface:

Pajo
10 Sep 12, 11:08
Zampa is a prick. Didn't he said, just a month ago, that Silvestre is the second best CD in Italy after Silva? :oblivious:

Solfice
11 Sep 12, 17:12
Silvestre then reflected on his own performances: "On a personal level, I've settled in here very quickly. I've started five out of six games so far and generally speaking I've done well. You certainly haven't seen the best of Silvestre yet, but with time I'll prove how good I can be. We can all do better, myself included, and I accept my part of the blame. As I said, this break has definitely helped us to work a bit more calmly."

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=40778&L=en

Hope he'll start proving it from now. :)

sanka
11 Sep 12, 17:14
'I've started five out of six games so far and generally speaking I've done well.'

Yeah right..Surprisingly well i'm afraid..

Ffi201zi002tlis
11 Sep 12, 17:55
"The return of Handanovic" :closeenough: + "The best of Silvestre" :challenge:

:oblivious:

Ed.
12 Sep 12, 11:32
It's really unfair tbh how most judge him already based on his first 6 games only. (He only started 5 official games and sub in 1 game). I always believe that a good defence is the one that can work together. It includes both CB and the fullbacks. Now, if we take a look closely on Silvestre's partnership in the last 5 games he has appeared (i ignored the game he subbed in because he only played like 10 minutes).

First game: Hajduk - Inter: 0-3.
- first half: Silvestre - Chivu. Jonathan as RB.
- second half: Silvestre - Samuel.

Second game: Inter - Hajduk: 0-2.
- Silvestre subbed in Sneijder at 86'

Third game: Vaslui - Inter: 0-2.
- Silvestre - Ranocchia. Maicon as RB.

Fourth game: Pescara - Inter: 0-3.
- Silvestre - Ranocchia. Zanetti as RB.

Fifth game: Inter - Vaslui: 2-2.
- First half: Silvestre - Samuel. Jonathan as RB.
- Second half: Silvestre - Juan.

Sixth game: Inter - Roma: 1-3.
- Silvestre - Ranocchia. Zanetti as RB.

Now, someone said Silvestre has at least cost us 2 goals. It is clearly the statement is misjudgement. We have 3 clean sheet so far with Silvestre starting. The 2 goals we conceded from Vaslui: first goal was Samuel's blame, second was Belec's. For Roma's first goal, it is not entirely his fault, it was more Gargano's fault tbh. Roma's second and third goal are the whole defence system fucked it up. So, what it shows that Silvestre has only had 1 bad game which is against Roma and even it is not his entire fault for the goals.

But, again, it is understandable from the statistic above. He has been playing in a new club, with a new coach, in a new environment, with new players, starting games with different players with different characteristics to his left, right, and including behind (yes, he has played with 3 different goalies). That hasn't included the DM line-up, it has varied from Cambiasso, Mudingayi, Zanetti to Gargano.

Defence system is very different to attack. Attacking can be done by 1 solo player running, dribbling, shooting and scoring goals. We've seen that a lot of times. Defence is totally different. You need players who work together and get used to each other, and have much more chemistry than attacking players. We remember that Lucio-Samuel were almost impenetrable, but if we take out one of them, we sufferred a hell loads of games too.

Toninu
12 Sep 12, 16:34
Meh unless it's a clear blunder you can't blame an individual for a mistake, the way the team is positioned is pretty important also. However Silvestre has made two blunders like against Hajduk first leg and against Roma at one point he headed the ball into the feet of their player who had a clear shot at goal.

figer
21 Sep 12, 12:22
Inter Milan legend Materazzi: Silvestre wasn't needed


Inter Milan legend Marco Materazzi has questioned the signing of Matias Silvestre.

Materazzi feels Inter do not need the former Palermo defender.

“Seeing as the club knew about the ability of Juan Jesus, with this Ranocchia and the senators back in form, they could have avoided signing Silvestre,” stated the former Inter hard man to the Corriere dello Sport.

“Juan was secure in his every intervention on Sunday, also thanks to a Ranocchia who many should apologise to for their judgements of him last season."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/inter-milan-legend-materazzi-silvestre-wasnt-needed-3537361

rockball
21 Sep 12, 12:25
:palm:
At least wait for half a season to pass judgments.

ur-um
21 Sep 12, 13:23
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/inter-milan-legend-materazzi-silvestre-wasnt-needed-3537361

It's only natural that Materazzi would put full faith in Samuel, Chivu, and Rannochia. On the other hand, a big question mark loomed over Rannochia's shape throughout pre-season -- and injuries light and serious have plagued both Samuel and Chivu over the last couple of seasons. Only time will tell whether the addition of Silvestre to the squad was a good call or not: My guess is that the outcome will be influenced more by injuries than the performances the aforementioned players put in.

Aurimas
04 Oct 12, 10:54
There are some rumors already, that we would like to exchange him to Denis from Atalanta

Universe
04 Oct 12, 12:39
There are some rumors already, that we would like to exchange him to Denis from Atalanta

Don't know what's worse.. The thought that we're looking to dump Silvestre already or that we're interested in Denis.

Pajo
04 Oct 12, 12:44
It's BS rumor only. First, he is on loan so we can't really "trade" him, and Denis would be only a solution for a backup striker till June.

So, a BS.

crzdcolombian
11 Oct 12, 19:31
So many rumors of him leaving in Jan. Now Atletico Madrid wants him. They are 1st in Spain, I don't really see why they would want him but as long as we get him off our payroll that would be awesome.

shingayi
11 Oct 12, 20:17
People forget that he is only on loan from Palermo, so all of these rumors can be summarized in one word: bullshit

Dylan
11 Oct 12, 20:53
I find it incredibly hard to believe Materazzi actually said that, tribalfootball links should be banned from here.

Tanel
25 Oct 12, 18:54
Defended his potential, but this is up there with worst ever individual defensive performances I've seen from an Inter player. He has 0 confidence and on top of that he seems to haven't improved physically at all compared to early season. If possible we should look to get rid of him. He stands like 5 meters off players, slips up, poor passes etc. Luckily not much lost for us. Thought he was gonna be better based on the pre-season.

uny_arturo
25 Oct 12, 18:58
His slip during the 86" almsot costed us a goal. For a second I thought he slipped out of fear 'cos JJ made a sliding tackle.

.h.
25 Oct 12, 18:59
thanks for trying silvestre, we appreciate it, but please leave.

Serhio_D
25 Oct 12, 19:02
People forget that he is only on loan from Palermo, so all of these rumors can be summarized in one word: bullshit
as well as his "performance"...

shingayi
25 Oct 12, 19:04
And now we all know what Zamparini had in mind saying: "I didn't get rid of Silvestre because of money. I simply didn't like him."

Jimmy
25 Oct 12, 19:05
One bad game, and it all starts.

I give up. Fuck you all.

.h.
25 Oct 12, 19:06
the other way to look at it is that he's never played a good game at inter

NeonBlade
25 Oct 12, 19:10
This should just reinforce every night before we sleep we should pray to what ever God you believe in, because if Ranocchia or Samuel go down with injuries and we have to depend on this guy?This guy? Against even stronger opposition, we are sunk!

Inter7
25 Oct 12, 19:21
Use cambiasso before we play silvestre

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William
25 Oct 12, 19:27
One bad game, and it all starts.

I give up. Fuck you all.

The games he has been on he has still been bad so people will be unhappy with his 'performance' :pokerface:

Iron_Inter
25 Oct 12, 20:26
One bad game, and it all starts.

I give up. Fuck you all.

I dont agree with this at all. He didnt have any good performance in Inter shirt. At best he was decent. Still i am ok with him as a bench player, better him than Chivu.

Pajo
25 Oct 12, 22:47
Jesus, wtf is going on with this guy? He looks like he has mental breakdown. And i doubt he will get back soon enough. His time at Inter will be soon over. Too bad, since i know he is MUCH better than this... Oh well. He sucked every official game he played for us.

snake
25 Oct 12, 22:59
Don't take it personally Jimmy. No one really hates the guy. But we don't have the time nor any real benefit to sit here and wait for the guy to come good. He is getting on with age, all the while we have two younger guys who are doing fucking amazing.

With all due respect Silvestre, you need to leave at the end of the year.

RanoJuan are the future.

rockball
26 Oct 12, 08:03
Isn't he on a loan? No worries then.. If it continues this way for another couple of games, I'm sure the management will try to offload him in Jan itself.

thatdude
26 Oct 12, 13:42
I think he'll stay the rest of the year. No reason to send him back to Palermo it's not like we'll get a discount on the 2 mil loan fee. It would also force us to dip into the January transfer market for a centerback where we would be royally screwed price wise.

.h.
26 Oct 12, 13:46
we'll save on salary if we release him. i'd rather that.

sanka
26 Oct 12, 13:47
agree the same moment we might need a reinforcement elsewhere.

Preferably in midfield.(i'm sayin midfield cause i'm sure we won't go for a priced striker in Jan)

the gtfo plan is for the end of the season.

vassago
26 Oct 12, 13:47
Matias "Burdisso-Gresko" Silvestre :pazzini:

German_Interista
09 Nov 12, 08:04
He is the only player that I don't like in our whole squad. His nasty fouls against Partizan yesterday were just unnecessary. I would giving him away in the winter transfer market.

Ffi201zi002tlis
09 Nov 12, 09:00
He is the only player that I don't like in our whole squad. His nasty fouls against Partizan yesterday were just unnecessary. I would giving him away in the winter transfer market.
How about Jonathan ? :troll:

Ffi201zi002tlis
11 Nov 12, 20:19
GTFO!!!!!!! :palm::palm::palm::palm::palm:

He is worse than Burdisso and Rivas combined :palm: and we thought he'll become our starting CB... :pokerface:

Minardista
11 Nov 12, 20:26
Silvestre, pezzo di merda... :palm:

I would rather play Daniel Bessa at CB than this clown...

Native
11 Nov 12, 20:40
Putting it mildly, this is the worst football player I have ever seen.

La Brujita
11 Nov 12, 20:40
What a clown. Can't believe we got him instead of Andreolli.

Can't believe he was supposed to be a starter. Thank god Jesus is saving us by suddenly becoming a very good defender, otherwise this cunt would've started many games.

Hopefully he'll get a slight injury till January and then we can offload him to some Serie B team where he belongs.

|| WS10 ||
11 Nov 12, 20:40
your fucking shit nuff said.

Nyall
11 Nov 12, 20:41
Useless piece of shit.. we're having the best string of results in nearly 6 years and all it took for you was one fucking game..


I hope you're shipped off ASAP.. nowhere near Inter or even Serie A quality...

Cris
11 Nov 12, 20:41
I ain't even going to add something constructive here.

Shit. That is all.

Starmo4
11 Nov 12, 20:42
lost in space :) hehheh fakin clown..

Solfice
11 Nov 12, 20:42
Fucking cunt.:fffuuu:

Howl
11 Nov 12, 20:43
tbf on that pen the guy looked offside and it looked like silvestre got the ball.. but still he was FUCKING SHITE the entire game

what the fuckkk

we need to get some class CBs in january just incase we get injuries often like with rano + silvestre

sanka
11 Nov 12, 20:43
Silvia Saint.

.h.
11 Nov 12, 20:44
I would rather play a youth player than Silvestre.

Doffy
11 Nov 12, 20:45
this guy his inter career is over. he succumbs under the pressure. sad to see tbh.
its all zamparini's fault, he took away his confidence. lol

Minardista
11 Nov 12, 20:45
I don't believe I am saying this - but - we desperately need Chivu back :pokerface:

armendsh
11 Nov 12, 20:46
omg you fucking single handle you ruined us OMG

Native
11 Nov 12, 20:46
This is the first time I see a player truly deserving a '1' in the poll above.

junior55
11 Nov 12, 20:47
At least now we know why Palermo used to concede so much .

The guy doesn't know what fucking means MARKING.

.h.
11 Nov 12, 20:49
he simply lacks basic decision making skills.

when to commit, when to attack the ball, when to defend, when to push to the passer, or when to push to the run.


ive never seen anyone make such basic mistakes. thats the sort of indecisive shit you expect from a youth player.

Zane
11 Nov 12, 20:52
It shouldnt have been a pk..but regardless silvestre should know not to risk a slide tackle in that sitiuation . Fucking idiot

Vibe
11 Nov 12, 20:56
Those people who blasted me after Roma game when I said he costed us all 3 goals and he was gonna do it again :dino:

William
11 Nov 12, 20:57
I would rather play a youth player than Silvestre.

This is exactly what my brother and I said!

KevinB
11 Nov 12, 20:58
I would rather play a youth player than Silvestre.
I'd rather play Castelazzi as CB instead of this fucker

Serhio_D
11 Nov 12, 20:59
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/annoyed-facepalm-picard.png
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/misc-jackie-chan.png
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/angry-desk-flip.png
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/fuck-yeah-gtfo.png

Sokrates
11 Nov 12, 20:59
I remember users like Pajo cheering when we signed him... :yao:

Devious
11 Nov 12, 20:59
This is gona be a busy thread.

crzdcolombian
11 Nov 12, 20:59
Wow we got someone worse than Chivu...... I didn't rate this guy highly especially when I heard he was going to cost us $10 million euro. Man am I happy he only came here on loan

Nyall
11 Nov 12, 20:59
he simply lacks basic decision making skills.

when to commit, when to attack the ball, when to defend, when to push to the passer, or when to push to the run.


ive never seen anyone make such basic mistakes. thats the sort of indecisive shit you expect from a youth player.
No those mistakes especially the ones of poor run tracking are made by stupid players... He plays as if he doesn't read the opponents at all and only reacts to them.. I didn't see the first goal, but the second and especially the third could have been avoided if Silvestre had anticipated where Denis was going to go, instead of reacting to where Denis had gone..

Tanel
11 Nov 12, 21:00
What summed him up was situation few minutes after the penalty.

Counter attack of Atalanta... Silvestre is at far post, two free Atalanta players around him... he had no idea they were there, didn't even look.

Choppin Onions
11 Nov 12, 21:02
That penalty was harsh (he did get the ball) but what a shaky performance. He did almost everything wrong when it came to defending. Especially that 2nd goal. Where in the fuck was he going when we didn't even have possession? I need to see a replay of it but I remember him sprinting forward, leaving Denis behind him, right in front of Handa. Was he trying to play the offside trap? If so, he fucking failed. Badly.

IRR26
11 Nov 12, 21:04
Wow Chivu got an unbeatable challenge from Silvestre.

Was it atleast 5 clear scoring opportunities that he gave to Atalanta and they manage to score 3 out of them.

Tanel
11 Nov 12, 21:06
Oh, also I think Silvestre's performance is karma for me laughing my ass off at Mexes defending against Borja Valero.

Tsuna
11 Nov 12, 21:06
Where the fuck is jimmy to defend this cunt

NeonBlade
11 Nov 12, 21:09
That penalty was harsh (he did get the ball) but what a shaky performance. He did almost everything wrong when it came to defending. Especially that 2nd goal. Where in the fuck was he going when we didn't even have possession? I need to see a replay of it but I remember him sprinting forward, leaving Denis behind him, right in front of Handa. Was he trying to play the offside trap? If so, he fucking failed. Badly.

This is what I said in the game thread. He is clueless.


Worst offside trap in the history of defending....

DandyYN
11 Nov 12, 21:11
Oh, also I think Silvestre's performance is karma for me laughing my ass off at Mexes defending against Borja Valero.

So it's your fault?!:megusta:

Pimpin
11 Nov 12, 21:18
I am polite so silvestre , please get the fuck out of here.

Tanel
11 Nov 12, 21:33
So it's your fault?!:megusta:Will be heavy sleep tonight.

That or nightmares about Silvestre being my bodyguard as bunch of average hitmen are chasing me down. That dream won't last long tho.

sanka
11 Nov 12, 21:39
I'll put him as the VIP of [I.I.A]* for this giornata.

*
Individual
Idiotic
Acts

Pajo
11 Nov 12, 21:40
What a clown. Can't believe we got him instead of Andreolli.


We got him instead because he was 10x the player Andreolli was last year.

Anyway, Jesus Christ he sucks. :palm: THe guy lacks pretty much EVERYTHING atm. Fitness, strength, positioning, decision making, everything. He is playing like an amateur. Not even a 5% he was at Palermo. I really feel sorry for the guy, i really do. I doubt he will get his form back, he wont play enough, and he is totally shaken. No team communication whatsoever.

IRR26
11 Nov 12, 21:49
We got him instead because he was 10x the player Andreolli was last year.

Anyway, Jesus Christ he sucks. :palm: THe guy lacks pretty much EVERYTHING atm. Fitness, strength, positioning, decision making, everything. He is playing like an amateur. Not even a 5% he was at Palermo. I really feel sorry for the guy, i really do. I doubt he will get his form back, he wont play enough, and he is totally shaken. No team communication whatsoever.

I cant believe that Zamparini would have gave him for cheap loan if Silvestre really was good last year.

Pajo
11 Nov 12, 21:52
Did you watch him? I guess not.

He let some goals, but generally he was their best defensive player. He scored 5-6 goals too. As n4l once said, we cant expect him to see 10s every week and no mistake, but we can expect solid defensive player, 6s, which isn't bad. Unfortunately, all we see is 1s. He sucks, too much. But i know what kind of player he was before.

vasilios
11 Nov 12, 22:22
Silvestre was pretty average last year. Not as terrible as some seem to be suggesting with hindsight of his shitty performances with us, but not as good as he was with Catania. Part of the reason he struggled a bit last year I assumed was due to Palermo's style of play and him being surrounded by a bunch of incompetent defenders, but after each shitty performance for us, it seems like more and more like he was a bigger part of the problem than I thought.

wera
11 Nov 12, 22:25
Now this is the reason u can't play JUST ANYBODY AT THE BACK. Maybe he was good one day in the past, he wasn't yesterday

Pajo
11 Nov 12, 22:29
Silvestre was pretty average last year. Not as terrible as some seem to be suggesting with hindsight of his shitty performances with us, but not as good as he was with Catania. Part of the reason he struggled a bit last year I assumed was due to Palermo's style of play and him being surrounded by a bunch of incompetent defenders, but after each shitty performance for us, it seems like more and more like he was a bigger part of the problem than I thought.

He was definitely above average. He was by far their best defender. He played in attacking oriented team that has NO holding midfielders, and changed 4 coaches in one season. It was normal he struggled sometimes. What happens here at Inter, i have no idea, the guy is hopeless. But i know what i've seen from him at Palermo, and i have watched them at least 20 times.

edit: but yeah, in Catania he was beast. He wasnt as good as he was back then.

Wobblz
12 Nov 12, 11:34
We're throwing money out the window with the likes of Forlan, Alvarez, Silvestre, Jonathan... How much money is that? 5+12+(2+6)+5=30M... We could've bought ONE GREAT PLAYER for such an amount and still player youngsters instead of those underperformers. Cheapness is the mother of misery.

Pajo
12 Nov 12, 11:41
Again, Ricky did NOT cost 12! And I doubt we will buy silvestre to give those extra 6.

Another again, what transfer isn't a risk? We have bought players that were worth 25+ mils that turn out to be utter FLOPS, and we have bought cheap players that turn out to be great, like Cesar, Maicon, Eto.. And much more.

As i said, every transfer is a risk. Who would have known that Silvestre will be such a flop when he was good to great player for Catania and Palermo? Who would have known that Jonathan would be utter crap after winning the best RB in Brazil award? Who would have known that although aging, former world class player will score 2 goals whole season?

I also wouldn't say Alvarez is flop. Still has lot to show, but he has to play to do it. If not, we can always sell him for the same ammount we got him (all reports bar Velez site say it was 6 + bonuses). It might reach 12, but i doubt since Ricky hasn't done much.

Jesus, this whining is over every line. Especially when we lose. :palm:

Wobblz
12 Nov 12, 12:08
Again, Ricky did NOT cost 12! And I doubt we will buy silvestre to give those extra 6.

Another again, what transfer isn't a risk? We have bought players that were worth 25+ mils that turn out to be utter FLOPS, and we have bought cheap players that turn out to be great, like Cesar, Maicon, Eto.. And much more.

As i said, every transfer is a risk. Who would have known that Silvestre will be such a flop when he was good to great player for Catania and Palermo? Who would have known that Jonathan would be utter crap after winning the best RB in Brazil award? Who would have known that although aging, former world class player will score 2 goals whole season?

I also wouldn't say Alvarez is flop. Still has lot to show, but he has to play to do it. If not, we can always sell him for the same ammount we got him (all reports bar Velez site say it was 6 + bonuses). It might reach 12, but i doubt since Ricky hasn't done much.

Jesus, this whining is over every line. Especially when we lose. :palm:
Well you're perfectly right. I agree. There are no securities when it comes to selection and all of the mentioned above looked good in the beginning. It's just that, for example, IIRC Roma were split between Lamela & Alvarez but they gave some more money and chose Lamela. We took Alvarez. You know how the story goes. I'm not saying Alvarez is shit, I like the guy and defended him lots of times but he's 24 ffs. Lamela was like 18M, he's 20 and had a IMMEDIATE IMPACT in Serie A. In the end of the day we're losing money in multiple transfers trying to blindly find a cheap solution. I'm just comparing our transfer policies with other teams and see horrible outcomes of our cheapness - absolute waste of precious money when we're all like 'we have no money to buy expensive proven players'. Well, we shouldn't also have money to throw away on such blind bets.

And my argument has nothing to do with the fact that we lost. In addition to that what do you expect, those discussions are brought up when you're remembered about their existence.

[We have a 'moral agreement' with Palermo that we will buy Silvestre]

Pajo
12 Nov 12, 12:17
But there's difference. Lamela is starter for Roma for TWO years. Regardless the age.

Ricky didn't have luck with injuries whatsoever, and when fit, there are other players before him in the picking order. I bet that if Ricky got Lamelas playing time, he would have been 200% better player.

Money doesn't guarantee you success. :) That's definite. All players you mentioned were MUCH MUCH better than they are at inter. Some players play better when surrounded by better players and in bigger teams, some can't cope with the pressure, and money doesn't have anything to do with it. That's my point. Unless of course you buy world class players for 30+ mils, where the chances of flop are very slim (not that there aren't any).

Back on Silvestre, I know we have moral agreement, but if he continues this play, i doubt Moratti will keep "his word" :D

Wobblz
12 Nov 12, 12:40
But there's difference. Lamela is starter for Roma for TWO years. Regardless the age.

Ricky didn't have luck with injuries whatsoever, and when fit, there are other players before him in the picking order. I bet that if Ricky got Lamelas playing time, he would have been 200% better player.

Money doesn't guarantee you success. :) That's definite. All players you mentioned were MUCH MUCH better than they are at inter. Some players play better when surrounded by better players and in bigger teams, some can't cope with the pressure, and money doesn't have anything to do with it. That's my point. Unless of course you buy world class players for 30+ mils, where the chances of flop are very slim (not that there aren't any).

Back on Silvestre, I know we have moral agreement, but if he continues this play, i doubt Moratti will keep "his word" :D
I can easily agree on your perspective. But still, a logical question arises - why we bought Ricky in the first place when there's not much room for him? Why we bought a brazilian and not looked around for an Italian player where the chances of him struggling so much adapting to the style of play aren't so big. Granted this best RB in the league award means anything and adapting is truly his main obstacle of being decent.

BTW Honestly, Juan is our best signing of latest. We gave a serious amount of money for Handa. Palacio is old and hasn't come on the cheap too. Guarin had his ups and down. Jesus is a godsend - young, cheap and had an immediate impact. If only we could somehow manage to string some more deals like him.

vassago
12 Nov 12, 12:50
the only thing i see in him NOW is a player that is scared to do shit at the back... he's not a player that has what it takes to be an inter player... how he was at another doesnt help us in any way... he's a horror show when defending for us... Donkor from our primavera is 2 times better then Silvestre at the moment... and Donkor is pretty awful tbh...
Silvestre is not marking anyone at the back nor he is covering space... what the fuck is he doning you ask?... same here i cant find a reason why we dont just play with 10 men instead of paying this looser... just points to other players where to be like he knows what he's doing...

Maslany
12 Nov 12, 13:09
We have him on loan right? We can still change our minds... :yao:

Cal
12 Nov 12, 13:14
I bet that if Ricky got Lamelas playing time, he would have been 200% better player.

Very wild statement. Agree with rest of post, but this isn't right..

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But still, a logical question arises - why we bought Ricky in the first place when there's not much room for him?

Why you saying we should've bought Lamela then?

Wobblz
12 Nov 12, 13:22
Why you saying we should've bought Lamela then?
I don't agree we didn't have a place for one more attacker last year in the first place. Cassano and Palacio weren't there.

vasilios
12 Nov 12, 13:25
Very wild statement. Agree with rest of post, but this isn't right.

I assume he means Alvarez would be twice as good as he is now, not twice as good as Lamela. I don't disagree with that, mainly because I think him being twice as good as he is now wouldn't be that hard.

Cal
12 Nov 12, 13:26
I assume he means Alvarez would be twice as good as he is now, not twice as good as Lamela. I don't disagree with that, mainly because I think him being twice as good as he is now wouldn't be that hard.

oh, ok. Misunderstanding :)

Pajo
12 Nov 12, 14:16
Yup, that's what I meant. I didn't mean better than Lamela, but at least twice the current Alvarez.

thatdude
12 Nov 12, 14:45
the only thing i see in him NOW is a player that is scared to do shit at the back... he's not a player that has what it takes to be an inter player... how he was at another doesnt help us in any way... he's a horror show when defending for us... Donkor from our primavera is 2 times better then Silvestre at the moment... and Donkor is pretty awful tbh...
Silvestre is not marking anyone at the back nor he is covering space... what the fuck is he doning you ask?... same here i cant find a reason why we dont just play with 10 men instead of paying this looser... just points to other players where to be like he knows what he's doing...

He's the youngest consistent starter in our primavera. Great talent, I don't see the need for a cheap shot just cause Silvestre sucks.

Ronaldo
12 Nov 12, 15:12
Yet he was talking about having more playing time few days ago!


He must be kidding..

IRR26
12 Nov 12, 16:17
Ricky didn't have luck with injuries whatsoever, and when fit, there are other players before him in the picking order. I bet that if Ricky got Lamelas playing time, he would have been 200% better player.

I dont like when people do this. If Player X had more playing time and if he had better players around him...

Especially when Ricky has shown nothing to deserve more playing time that he have had.

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[We have a 'moral agreement' with Palermo that we will buy Silvestre]

Da fuck is this shit. :disgustedyao:

.h.
12 Nov 12, 17:17
caldi's pretty fucking good actually

italy u21 captain (i believe he still is, but may be wrong) for a long time, he basically moved to brescia who were doing shit then they went 10 games in a row clean sheet (or win, dont remember which)...

he's a very good technical defender, he'd go well with ranocchia and juan. Just need to see if he's on the right level

sanka
12 Nov 12, 18:06
He was definitely above average. He was by far their best defender. He played in attacking oriented team that has NO holding midfielders, and changed 4 coaches in one season. It was normal he struggled sometimes. What happens here at Inter, i have no idea, the guy is hopeless. But i know what i've seen from him at Palermo, and i have watched them at least 20 times.

edit: but yeah, in Catania he was beast. He wasnt as good as he was back then.

Silverstre is a big disapointment.I take all his reputation into consideration relatively he's worst to a clown Chivu day.

So mediocre you wanna take a gun in your face and baaam,very poor defendin in an age he should act with far more experiency..

Earth
12 Nov 12, 18:44
caldi's pretty fucking good actually

italy u21 captain (i believe he still is, but may be wrong) for a long time, he basically moved to brescia who were doing shit then they went 10 games in a row clean sheet (or win, dont remember which)...

he's a very good technical defender, he'd go well with ranocchia and juan. Just need to see if he's on the right level

wrong thread?

.h.
12 Nov 12, 19:13
wrong thread?
Who knows, who knows.

Wobblz
13 Nov 12, 10:58
FCIN talked to the CEO of Palermo Pietro Lo Monaco about Silvestre. Sadly It seems we won't be sending him back to Palermo.

http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=97778

MarkE
13 Nov 12, 10:59
The level of immense suffering I've been receiving watching Silvestre play has somehow turned me into a buddha; I'm starting to have sympathy for this guy. There HAS to be some f-ed up shit going on with him either mentally or physically (or both) at the moment, there has to be...nothing else describes this situation.

Let's leave all the football talks behind, because we can't even call him a professional athlete by the look of things. I've never seen any kind of athlete looking so insecure when he moves with his feet. My 5 year old nephew who just started playing football is better balanced than him when chasing the ball and I add no exaggeration.

I really hope he gets his shit together, because there's obviously sth going on with this dude.

Starmo4
13 Nov 12, 11:06
FCIN talked to the CEO of Palermo Pietro Lo Monaco about Silvestre. Sadly It seems we won't be sending him back to Palermo.

http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=97778

I read somewhere that we gonna buy him and include him for pjanic deal in summer....So maybe is that... I dont se us buying him or maybee branca and stuff not usig they ayes latelly ... :)

IRR26
13 Nov 12, 12:03
FCIN talked to the CEO of Palermo Pietro Lo Monaco about Silvestre. Sadly It seems we won't be sending him back to Palermo.

http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=97778

In that fcinternews it would seem that we need to buy him but I though that this was loan and right of redemption.

So does someone know which one is it?

Edit.

“Sapete tutti che, da parte della società nerazzurra, per ciò che concerne la trattativa Silvestre, c’è l’obbligo di riscatto, quindi è una possibilità che non è contemplata”.

So this most likely means that we can decide whether we want to buy his contract in the summer or not.

Wobblz
13 Nov 12, 12:13
I read somewhere that we gonna buy him and include him for pjanic deal in summer....So maybe is that... I dont se us buying him or maybee branca and stuff not usig they ayes latelly ... :)
1. Where is that 'somewhere'
2. Zeman might be insane but not that much - we should be the ones to offer a player with Silvestre just to be able to get rid of him.

Dylan
13 Nov 12, 12:14
I really hope he gets his shit together, because there's obviously sth going on with this dude.

He's just going to continue getting Pandev syndrome. The sooner he gets away from Inter the better. For both the player's sake and the club's.

.h.
13 Nov 12, 12:30
according to football italia,, the translation from palermo is that we HAVE TO sign him at the end of the season.

vasilios
13 Nov 12, 13:37
In that fcinternews it would seem that we need to buy him but I though that this was loan and right of redemption.

So does someone know which one is it?

Edit.

“Sapete tutti che, da parte della società nerazzurra, per ciò che concerne la trattativa Silvestre, c’è l’obbligo di riscatto, quindi è una possibilità che non è contemplata”.

So this most likely means that we can decide whether we want to buy his contract in the summer or not.

He's saying we're obligated to redeem him. If true, then that's 8mil (or whatever it is) down the drain. Maybe we can work out a loan somewhere else in January where he can hopefully salvage some of his transfer value.

IRR26
13 Nov 12, 15:30
He's saying we're obligated to redeem him. If true, then that's 8mil (or whatever it is) down the drain. Maybe we can work out a loan somewhere else in January where he can hopefully salvage some of his transfer value.

Yeah I first though that too but then that latter part confused me.

c’è l’obbligo di riscatto, quindi è una possibilità che non è contemplata”.

:confused:

Vintage
13 Nov 12, 15:57
Wasn't that Lo Monaco guy worked for Preziosi last summer?

Edit:

Just googled he joined Palermo as CEO last September

http://www.sbnation.com/seriea/2012/9/27/3417444/pietro-lo-monaco-joins-palermo-as-ceo

.h.
13 Nov 12, 16:18
yep, he argued with mourinho when he was in catania, then went to genoa, then palermo.


It seems very odd if we have an obligatory buy clause in his contract. Typically it'll be like, if he plays 15-20 games, you MUST sign him. But just to sign him on loan then have an obligatory buy clause is very weird.

We'll see how it pans out.

crepi
13 Nov 12, 16:24
Depends on the wording of the contract. If I understand correctly, the law only intends for loans including an option to purchase, but an obligation can still be written into the contract and the contract deemed valid if it does not violate any other statutes (see Boriello's loan to Roma from Milan which explicitly cited an obligation). So Palermo's ability to legally force us to execute our end of the supposed deal is uncertain, but I have never seen any written reference to an obligation (apart from Lo Monaco's word). To me, it seems more like the usual gentleman's agreement between the two clubs where they structure a long/multi-year loan contract for an initial fee and then promise each other that the option will be exercised. If that is the extent of the obligation (just a verbal/moral one), then we could send him back, but we'd sort of be screwing them over and damaging our relationship.

Inter's notice on the website this summer:
MILANO - Matìas Silvestre è dell'Inter. Il difensore argentino, classe 1984 e di passaporto italiano, si lega alla Società nerazzurra in prestito con diritto di riscatto.

And from's Palermo's side:
L’U.S. Città di Palermo comunica di aver ceduto Matias Silvestre all’F.C. Internazionale. Il difensore approda al club milanese in prestito con diritto di riscatto.

No mention of an obligation, only a right. Seems like it's the gentlemen's agreement kind and not the legal kind. But if we do exercise, then we'll probably end up pulling a Boriello (loaned to Rome from Milan with obligation to buy; loaned to Juventus; eventually sold to Genoa) with him.

--

While looking this up, I came across this gem from Zamparini: "Con lui abbiamo preso tanti gol, per questo lo abbiamo dato all'Inter" // "With him we conceded so many goals, that's why we gave him to Inter"

:pokerface:

Wait til we send him back, asshole.

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Yeah I first though that too but then that latter part confused me.

c’è l’obbligo di riscatto, quindi è una possibilità che non è contemplata”.

:confused:

I had the same reaction, but I'm pretty sure he's referring to the possibility of Silvestre being sent back not being contemplated.



Ha sentore che l’Inter potrebbe non riscattare il giocatore la prossima estate?

“Sapete tutti che, da parte della società nerazzurra, per ciò che concerne la trattativa Silvestre, c’è l’obbligo di riscatto, quindi è una possibilità che non è contemplata”. //"thus it is a possibility that is not contemplated."

.h.
13 Nov 12, 16:26
well, technically you can write in the clasue in the contract

If the player plays more than 1500 minutes of football in the forth coming season, FC Internazionale must exercise their right to sign him

etc

crepi
13 Nov 12, 16:39
Of course, though in Silvestre's case, I haven't heard of any performance clauses. I was just wondering whether there can actually be an unconditional obligation.

Pimpin
13 Nov 12, 17:24
silvestre + 5 m:awwwyeah:

Pajo
13 Nov 12, 19:38
We don't have obligation, but "gentlemen agreement" of a kind. Doesnt mean Moratti will keep his word :D

Universe
13 Nov 12, 22:44
We don't have obligation, but "gentlemen agreement" of a kind. Doesnt mean Moratti will keep his word :D

That's cos Moratti is corrupt and I love Juventus :wera:

wera
13 Nov 12, 23:01
clap clap clap

I'm an Inter fan who doesn't care what other clubs do. Even if their cheating prevents us from getting titles, I don't care. When I'm on a stadium I cheer for my team, I don't taunt the other club. When I meet a fan of some other club I don't get into stupid fights, I don't have any desire for that. If this is 'wrong', I don't care.

Now back to the subject. But I do dislike Moratti for being a man with no football knowledge whatsoever, at least that's how I see it. Too many dumb decisions down the line, but I guess that's what Italians do, Italians are known for being 'simple'.

Pimpin
13 Nov 12, 23:04
delete.

wera
13 Nov 12, 23:10
DELETED.

.h.
13 Nov 12, 23:24
this is fucking ridiculous.

Pimpin
14 Nov 12, 00:34
delete

IRR26
14 Nov 12, 12:01
We don't have obligation, but "gentlemen agreement" of a kind. Doesnt mean Moratti will keep his word :D

Gentlemens agreement with Zamparini.

http://www.altrabenevento.org/altrabenevento/wp-content/uploads/zamparini-se-la-ride.jpg

Don Omar
19 Nov 12, 22:32
Below average :pokerface:

wera
19 Nov 12, 22:58
I have a feeling we are going to buy him out of pity

spork
20 Nov 12, 01:49
:pokerface:

Imagine how much money we'd waste on doing that to former players who just didn't cut it for us.

crzdcolombian
21 Nov 12, 14:40
he is so bad he makes me wish Chivu recovers quickly haha. Man he makes me even miss Burdisso who would score a own goal every other game but would at least score for us once in a while.

Ffi201zi002tlis
21 Nov 12, 17:54
Burdisso scored a hat-trick :pazzini: the good old days :derpcry: oh wait :pokerface::yao:

rockball
23 Nov 12, 05:25
Had a bad game again. Even though Rubin could hardly create anything, this guy was all over the place committing reckless fouls. He doesn't have the brain to be a good defender, I really wonder if our management saw a few games of his before signing him; or listened to the Argentines to sign one defender.

Lionheart
23 Nov 12, 06:46
I waited so long to open a player thread :pokerface: I was patient. I didn't rush in. I thought I chose wisely & the world would remember him as the legend whose thread was opened by Dara. :proud:

I failed. :pokerface: Now everybody will see me the same as Stefan, who opened Chivu's thread & failed in his own way.

Sokrates
25 Nov 12, 19:13
Well Chivu was not that bad his first years at Inter

Native
25 Nov 12, 19:17
Chivu was very good

crzdcolombian
26 Nov 12, 03:10
Chivu was very good When exactly? Was this?

Any way I hope Silvestre doesn't play tomorrow a win and we will be very close to 1st place. Juve can't keep it's momentum going or does it have the team to compete for two tournies

snake
26 Nov 12, 03:13
When exactly? Was this?

Any way I hope Silvestre doesn't play tomorrow a win and we will be very close to 1st place. Juve can't keep it's momentum going or does it have the team to compete for two tournies

Lol you been? drinking?

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Ffi201zi002tlis
26 Nov 12, 03:19
When exactly? Was this?

Did you watch Inter-Barca match at group state in our treble season? Chivu was amazing :fuckyea: until his head injury :disgustedyao:

Pajo
26 Nov 12, 10:43
Yeah, Chivu was great till that head injury. Had his fuckups even then, but it was rare thing to see. He had some bad games sure, but who doesn't?

crzdcolombian
11 Dec 12, 02:07
To Roma (http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=112682)

He needs to leave he isn't even good enough for Europa League and makes too much money to not even make it to the bench

I4E
11 Dec 12, 04:19
chill.... The cunts on loan

wera
11 Dec 12, 08:31
Cuntvestre, you say. Good thing I made swearing allowed here, so nobody can get banned anymore.

sanka
11 Dec 12, 10:58
chill.... You read too much trasfermarketwebshit.com

ficsrzed tbh..

How is it that every fuckin day except the close transfer period they got a 'new' rumor? lulz

Irequis
18 Dec 12, 21:14
Finally, a clean sheet with him involved in the game. This is the first time since the league opener versus Pescara.
Surely the name of Silvestre-Chivu would give chill to any Interisti, but somehow they made it.











Of course. Negative times negative is positive :troll:

Serhio_D
18 Dec 12, 21:19
Oh god, I'm gonna get so wasted when we get rid of scumbags like him and Jonathan

wera
18 Dec 12, 21:21
Of course. Negative times negative is positive :troll:

Haha don't let Strama see that

Mad Biscione
18 Dec 12, 21:28
him, Chivu and Stankovic shouldall pack their bags

wera
18 Dec 12, 21:30
why chivu?
let chivu be the fifth cb

Fitzy
18 Dec 12, 22:00
Finally, a clean sheet with him involved in the game.Come on, that clean sheet was all down to Samir Palacio.