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Dylan
13 Dec 15, 20:23
Group E (http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/standings/round=2000448/group=2004543/index.html)

http://img.uefa.com/imgml/flags/18x18/bel.png Belgium
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/flags/18x18/ita.png Italy
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/flags/18x18/irl.png Republic of Ireland
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/flags/18x18/swe.png Sweden

Match schedule in Group E link.

DIN011
13 Dec 15, 20:25
So we meet again Dylan :awyeah:

Dylan
13 Dec 15, 20:30
Game on :brozo:

ScottishInterista
13 Dec 15, 21:49
Ireland getting no love in the vote

TGDella
13 Dec 15, 22:06
Voted for Italy and Belgium but could totally see them both choking horrendously and the other two going through.

Dylan
13 Dec 15, 22:15
Ireland getting no love in the vote

Just going to make it all the more sweet when we 0-0 our way out of the group.

KevinB
14 Dec 15, 01:32
All will depend on who's getting called up at the Euros. Personally, I'd prefer to keep Benteke as far away from Belgium as possible and call up Lukaku, Batshuayi and Depoitre as strikers

Perhaps go for this line-up

------------------------ Courtois
Alderweireld - Kompany --- Denayer - Vertonghen
------------ Nainggolan ----- Kums (just because he's awesome)/ Witsel
Hazard ---------------- De Bruyne -------- Carrasco
-------------------------- Batshuayi

thatdude
14 Dec 15, 01:49
Wow you think Belgium won't start Lukaku? Especially if he keeps up the form he's been in so far this season?

KevinB
14 Dec 15, 03:16
Wow you think Belgium won't start Lukaku? Especially if he keeps up the form he's been in so far this season?

He sucks for Belgium. Like insanely bad

Pajo
14 Dec 15, 09:01
Even if he does, he is still by far your best CF. No way he doesnt start.

Carrasco tho. What a beast he is turning into :notbad: And you also have Mignolet, Mertens, Mirallas, Chadli, Fellaini, Dembele, and few other great players as backup.

KevinB
14 Dec 15, 18:43
Batshuayi is more complete than Lukaku, especially technically.

Fapuccino
14 Dec 15, 18:56
I thought Lukaku was good internationally and bad for his club. It turns out it's the exact opposite.

KevinB
12 May 16, 16:04
GK: Courtois, Mignolet & Jean-François Gillet -> ( :palm:)
Defenders: Alderweireld, Boyata, Denayer, Engels, Lombaerts, Jordan Lukaku, Meunier, Vermaelen, Vertonghen.
Midfield: Dembélé, Fellaini, Nainggolan, Witsel, De Bruyne
Attack: Batshuayi, Benteke, Carrasco, E.Hazard, R.Lukaku, Mertens, Origi.

Back up list in case of injuries: Chadli, Ciman, De Bock, G.Gillet, T.Hazard, Mirallas, Matz Sels

Some surprises, and some fuck ups by Wilmots. The dude always chooses his favorites like Gillet, Meunier, Benteke. Anyway what's Boyata doing on that list? He isn't that great at all. Vermaelen shouldn't be called either, he hasn't played 2 games in a row since his first year at Arsenal. Benteke should't be called up either. He is just in pure form this year. No Kums is just fucked up.

--------------------------------- Courtois
Denayer ------ Alderweireld ----------- Vertonghen ----- J. Lukaku
-------------------------------- Witsel
------------------- Nainggolan -------- De Bruyne
Carrasco -------------------- R. Lukaku ------------------- Hazard

The fullbacks are more than ever the weakpoint. I'd keep the Tottenham duo as central defenders. Denayer has the speed to play as RB. But offensive he won't contribute much.

Dylan
12 May 16, 18:36
In keeping with his policy of calling up everyone possible, Martin O'Neil has named a 35 man provisional squad.

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The 12 players cut will most likely be:
Westwood
McShane (shouldn't be in the provisional at all)
Pearce
Wilson (injured all year but our terrible LB options may see him sneak in)
Gibson
O'Kane (good player but unlikely to be called up)
Hayes
O'Dowda (never heard of him until this morning)
Doyle
McGoldrick
Arter (potentially the best midfielder we have but has always been injured for friendlies, if he comes I'll be delighted)
Pilkington

ScottishInterista
12 May 16, 20:25
How many of them were stolen from us

Dylan
12 May 16, 23:13
How many of them were stolen from us

2, McGeady is struggling in the Championship so it's only McCarthy really.

ADRossi
13 May 16, 00:50
GK: Courtois, Mignolet & Jean-François Gillet -> ( :palm:)
Defenders: Alderweireld, Boyata, Denayer, Engels, Lombaerts, Jordan Lukaku, Meunier, Vermaelen, Vertonghen.
Midfield: Dembélé, Fellaini, Nainggolan, Witsel, De Bruyne
Attack: Batshuayi, Benteke, Carrasco, E.Hazard, R.Lukaku, Mertens, Origi.

Back up list in case of injuries: Chadli, Ciman, De Bock, G.Gillet, T.Hazard, Mirallas, Matz Sels

Some surprises, and some fuck ups by Wilmots. The dude always chooses his favorites like Gillet, Meunier, Benteke. Anyway what's Boyata doing on that list? He isn't that great at all. Vermaelen shouldn't be called either, he hasn't played 2 games in a row since his first year at Arsenal. Benteke should't be called up either. He is just in pure form this year. No Kums is just fucked up.

--------------------------------- Courtois
Denayer ------ Alderweireld ----------- Vertonghen ----- J. Lukaku
-------------------------------- Witsel
------------------- Nainggolan -------- De Bruyne
Carrasco -------------------- R. Lukaku ------------------- Hazard

The fullbacks are more than ever the weakpoint. I'd keep the Tottenham duo as central defenders. Denayer has the speed to play as RB. But offensive he won't contribute much.

Why not play Vertonghen at LB and Denayer or Vermaelen at CB?

Kakaroto
13 May 16, 06:25
How many of them were stolen from us

Only one, Dylan.

Kenny
13 May 16, 06:54
http://oi64.tinypic.com/ztaeqs.jpg

http://www.konsolentreff.de/anhaenge/that-39-s-the-evilest-thing-i-can-imagine-jpg.18947/

TheNetworkZ
13 May 16, 08:18
Isn't it the top 3 that qualify? pls fix

KevinB
13 May 16, 12:51
Why not play Vertonghen at LB and Denayer or Vermaelen at CB?

I think alderweireld-Vertonghen will be better because they played all year together there. Vermaelen is done, Denayer could work but against good strikers he still gets beaten easily

Dylan
14 May 16, 17:38
Isn't it the top 3 that qualify? pls fix

I said 'automatically qualify', not every 3rd place team goes through.

Dylan
23 May 16, 18:59
The 12 players cut will most likely be:
Westwood
McShane (shouldn't be in the provisional at all)
Pearce
Wilson (injured all year but our terrible LB options may see him sneak in)
Gibson
O'Kane (good player but unlikely to be called up)
Hayes
O'Dowda (never heard of him until this morning)
Doyle
McGoldrick
Arter (potentially the best midfielder we have but has always been injured for friendlies, if he comes I'll be delighted)
Pilkington

McShane, Pearce, Pilkington, Hayes all cut and Wilson still injured so sent home.

7 to go.

Dylan
13 Jun 16, 00:35
Today is the fucking day.

Harpsabu
13 Jun 16, 00:47
I think we could nick the win today. Have to try to leave work early today. Bit awkward because i work in Belfast with a lot of N.I fans :pazzini: going for a 1-0 to the lads

ADRossi
13 Jun 16, 00:59
Ahhh, I love days like today. Best of luck KevinB

Inter2010
13 Jun 16, 02:47
dudes if italy get into the semi final and final... i'd say italy win it by 89%

thatdude
13 Jun 16, 03:05
Italy is still my dark horse, no matter how untalented they are. Never count them out in knock out competitions.

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 13:25
Yeah, I got the feeling Italy will win 1-0 or so. Vermaelen is rumoured to start :palm: dude's as effective as a plastic cone. Either way, Wilmots wants to play defensively, the one thing we suck at :lol: .

Courtois, Ciman, Alderweireld, Vermaelen, Vertonghen, Witsel, Nainggolan, Fellaini, Hazard, De Bruyne, Lukaku

Ciman is playing because we got no better RB, sadly. But he'll do the job. Vermaelen is as usefull as an ejector seat in a helicopter. Mr. Axel-I only pass backwards, sidewards and slow down the play because I'm a lazy fucker- Witsel, meh. Fellaini could be useful, but I'd rather not start him.

Wilmots should play on the offense. Since defensively, Belgium has a lot of issues.

---------------------------- Courtois
Ciman ---- Alderweireld ------------ Vertonghen ---- J.Lukaku
----------------- Nainggolan -------- Dembélé
Carrasco ------------------ De Bruyne ------------------ Hazard
----------------------------- R.Lukaku

Besnik
13 Jun 16, 14:24
Italy is still my dark horse, no matter how untalented they are. Never count them out in knock out competitions.

Spot on. Besides they still have lots of quality which could make a difference against inexperienced teams of the tournament.

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 16:08
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"Tonight we eat Italian!"

Howl
13 Jun 16, 18:30
What a fucking finish.. 1-0 to Ireland

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What an own goal :lol: 1-1

Jerry
13 Jun 16, 18:47
What an own goal :lol: 1-1

had to try... Larsson was all over him and ready to pounce.

Shark
13 Jun 16, 19:18
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck2bOR_WkAASRhC.jpg

Dylan
13 Jun 16, 19:35
Fucks sake. We started shitting our pants whenever the ball came into our box. If we kept it calm we had the presence to deal with it. I would have liked to have seen Duffy instead of Clark due to him being the tallest on the pitch.

Point isn't the worst, get Walters back to fitness and hope other results go our way.

Shark
13 Jun 16, 20:00
Forza eder!

Bergkamp
13 Jun 16, 20:07
I can't get over that ridiculous blond Fellaini afro :lol:

JJM
13 Jun 16, 20:16
Chiellini's dad is a penguin :yao:

firmino
13 Jun 16, 20:25
if i were conte, i would definitely replace giaccherini or darmian with el shaarawy.

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and why isn't florenzi playing? :pokerface:

Howl
13 Jun 16, 20:28
They should have started El Sharaawy and Florenzi

Javier'sSon
13 Jun 16, 20:31
Honigstein summed up this match perfectly: A team without a coach against a coach without a team.

Howl
13 Jun 16, 20:33
wow Giaccherini scored lol. Good goal too, great pass and top finish

armendsh
13 Jun 16, 20:33
Goaaall gacheriniii

Btw i really like pelle .. i would pay for him 30milion straight away

Javier'sSon
13 Jun 16, 20:34
Bonucci filling in for Pirlo :trollol:

TheNetworkZ
13 Jun 16, 20:34
I was about to write a nasty tweet about him too. Lucky guy escaped my wrath.

firmino
13 Jun 16, 20:37
They should have started El Sharaawy and Florenzi

now that's pouring salt on the wound. :oblivious:

however, with 1 to 1 i would win around 300 hundred euros. :oblivious:

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 20:38
De Bruyne and Lukaku might as well take a bed on the pitch and sleep.

Howl
13 Jun 16, 20:42
:lol:

I think Belgium will definitely score at least 1 though. De Bruyne needs to get his shit together.

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 20:48
No offensive gameplay, shitty defense. Sub fellaini off for carrasco goddamnit.

Kazaan
13 Jun 16, 21:04
Wilmots is lucky he doesn't have a Zamparini evaluating his work

firmino
13 Jun 16, 21:11
how could lukaku miss the goal?

Howl
13 Jun 16, 21:11
Lukaku :/

He's been shite all game

AntonTheGreat
13 Jun 16, 21:19
Did Eder steal Harry Potters Invisibility cloak?!

Ziyad
13 Jun 16, 21:21
Eder is shit, candreva very good. I am impressed by Italy thought they didn't have much in them.

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 21:22
Bravo Wilmots. Take the one guy off who is shooting, intercepting and passing good. Bravo

KsE
13 Jun 16, 21:28
Eder is in no way shit. He is doing a number of good flick-ons and passes and is an integral part of Italy's counter attacks, even though he doesn't get many chances himself.

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KevinB
13 Jun 16, 21:34
Hahahaha Hahahaha no rb anymore!

Fire this clown

AntonTheGreat
13 Jun 16, 21:40
Eder is in no way shit. He is doing a number of good flick-ons and passes and is an integral part of Italy's counter attacks, even though he doesn't get many chances himself.

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agreed, when in form, he is probably Italias most "skilled" forward. When hes doing well he can dribble, finish, shoot outside the box, take set pieces, and use his bursts of speed. But he really didn't get the playing time that his first half of the season deserved.

Ziyad
13 Jun 16, 21:48
Belgium woke up and showing a lot of dangerous chances

Ziyad
13 Jun 16, 21:49
What a goal

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 21:50
Bravo Italy. I predicted 0-1. It became 0-2. Congrats.


Fuck Wilmots

firmino
13 Jun 16, 21:50
belgium played in "we are so good that somehow we are going to win this anyway" mode, they deserved to lose.

Shaun
13 Jun 16, 21:51
Conte has drilled this Italy side really well. Still some strange selections, but you can at least see his rationale I guess. Candreva and Bonucci were particularly impressive

Sokrates
13 Jun 16, 21:54
Candreva impressive? Sorry, he was shit today

Javier'sSon
13 Jun 16, 21:54
Conte has drilled this Italy side really well. Still some strange selections, but you can at least see his rationale I guess. Candreva and Bonucci were particularly impressive

And Giaccherini. Italy have the best defence (with Buffon) and arguably the best coach in the tournament, that and you could never, ever, write off the Italians. But my god their squad besides the D is bad.

ADRossi
13 Jun 16, 21:55
Why on earth did Fellaini start?

firmino
13 Jun 16, 21:57
Why on earth did Fellaini start?

because his hair is so damn cool.

Ziyad
13 Jun 16, 21:58
Candreva impressive? Sorry, he was shit today

Seriously??? One of the best players on the pitch for me. His crosses got tired at the end but they were heavily dependent on him and he brought it.

Ziyad
13 Jun 16, 21:59
because his hair is so damn cool.

i have a theory that whenever a player takes too much attention to his hair and wants to get attention for it he almost always under performs.

Pharaoh
13 Jun 16, 22:01
I thought Candreva was pretty good.........

Also Wilmots getting fired after this tournament unless they win it.

Sokrates
13 Jun 16, 22:08
Candreva was not good in my opinion. slow at decisions making and some poor technical errors

Bluenine
13 Jun 16, 22:18
Conte has drilled this Italy side really well. Still some strange selections, but you can at least see his rationale I guess. Candreva and Bonucci were particularly impressive

Couldn't agree more. Bonucci is such a quality defender and a brilliant playmaker on the ball. MOTM for me. That pass for the first goal was spectacular, and he did that a few more times only the forwards couldn't make it count.

I don't like Conte's selections, he sticks to his favourites and prefers workhorses over talent. But man, does he know how to organise a team! The tactical discipline and intensity of Italy's game today was outstanding.

Great game to watch.

Shaun
13 Jun 16, 22:21
Candreva was not good in my opinion. slow at decisions making and some poor technical errors

He had an assist and could have easily had two more. Not sure how that could be viewed as shit

Sokrates
13 Jun 16, 22:22
Conte is one of the best coaches in this tournament, Jogi Löw is so much worse than him.

Ronin
13 Jun 16, 22:53
Candreva was pretty good. If he keeps it up we're going to have an issue with buying him for under 25m.

Harpsabu
13 Jun 16, 23:12
Bravo Italy. I predicted 0-1. It became 0-2. Congrats.


Fuck Wilmots

I feel sorry for you. If you wanted an example of how important a good coach with clear ideas vs a bad coach it was tonights game. Italys players didnt have to look half the time. They knew were they were going to be. How did this Wilmots guy get the job? I genuinely know nothing about him

KevinB
13 Jun 16, 23:29
Well, to be honest I predicted this, regardless it still hurts to see how ridiculious Belgium was and played. The difference was already to be spotted at the anthems. Whereas few Belgians sang or tried, the entire Italian team screamed it out. A team.

Second difference was the mentality, Belgium would, so called & predicted, roll the Italians into cannelloni. Not. Italy was great defensively, their organisation was a rock, they had a nervous start, but grew a lot in the game and hurt Belgium where it's weak point was the biggest.

Third difference was the most obvious one, the coaches. Marc Wilmots is ruining a golden generation. Like I've mentioned in the friendlies before the EC. There is zero gameplay, tactical choices, running lines, ... And the defense gets overrun fast and easy. Conté put his pions perfectly, they were smart, fast in intercepting and knew exactly what to do.

Now about the players on Belgian side, Courtois did his job as usual, saved Belgium from a humilation (if it's not already).
Ciman, well you can't expect much better, the goal was partly on him and partly on Alderweireld.
Alderweireld played shitty. He should've had that header.. After the goal it was bad in long balls, defending (Pelle was owning him)
Vermaelen was better than expected
Vertonghen intercepted Candreva a few times, but still easily beaten at most times. Offensively awful.
Witsel, fuck I hate that dipshit. He literally only passes to the back or to the sides. He did intercept a few balls, but he brings so little offensively.. Dembélé would be a better pick on his position.
Nainggolan brought most danger, intercepted a lot, tried to play fast. He had his mistakes, but subbing him off? Ridiculious.
Fellaini is trash when he starts. We all know it, but Wilmots doesn't. This fucker didn't even do the one thing he was on the pitch for, win aerial duals (even Eder won against him :palm: )
De Bruyne was the worst player on the pitch, it almost felt like he did it on purpose, absolutely nothing went well. He is a #10. Not a winger. ffs
Hazard tried to be Maradona, he played quite decent, was the most active Belgian today, but giving him the free role fucks up the system. He was everywhere and nowhere. Constantly conflicting with De Bruyne and Mertens towards the end.
Lukaku, you fucker. Can't even finish or win duels. Fucker.

Subs

Mertens : brought action, but it almost never delivers. Played godawful
Origi : :lol: Why not Batshuayi? You know, a striker who actually scored more than 5 goals this season :yuno:
Carrasco : Too late, too little time and no system. Talent being wasted by this dipshit coach.

Wilmots; You dense, shit, fucker, asshole of a coach. Tactic zero. De Bruyne on the right :palm: Fellaini starting :palm: Subbing Nainggolan :palm: suddenly reversing to a 3-6-1 without any preparation :lol: :palm:

I still stand by my prediction. Belgium will not qualify to the second round, and even if they did, Spain or Croatia most likely awaits them.

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I feel sorry for you. If you wanted an example of how important a good coach with clear ideas vs a bad coach it was tonights game. Italys players didnt have to look half the time. They knew were they were going to be. How did this Wilmots guy get the job? I genuinely know nothing about him

Well Wilmots was a great footballer in his day, even won the Euro cup with Bordeaux, known as the 'Kampfschwein' in the Germany. He was a good footballer. Attacker though. He got the job because he was the assistant of Dick Advocaat, who was a coach for Belgium a couple months and left to Russia after. Then he was the assistant of Georges Leekens, but he left to coach a Belgian team. So they elected Wilmots. They think he did a good job because Belgium suddenly became #1 on the ranking list (which is a complete joke)

Anyway, entire Belgium wants him out. And seeing Nainggolan's reaction on the bench, the players do too.

Dylan
14 Jun 16, 00:03
I can't see Ireland scoring a goal against Italy.

Batman
14 Jun 16, 00:21
I liked how Italy played today. Its crazy to think that there's not even a single creative player on the pitch. But they are following a well organized system very well. Conte's selections was still weird, like Mancini's, Motta imo should've played instead of Parolo who did almost nothing , Giaccherini although was pretty shit offensively, he was immense at covering the defense and running tirelessly, him and Florenzi can rotate eachothers. Predict this team to go far in the tournament, but won't win it.

Harpsabu
14 Jun 16, 00:23
I can't see Ireland scoring a goal against Italy.

By that stage italy will hopefully be through and will rest some players. Shane long will do his thing against heavyweights. No harm, but i think we could definitely beat this Belgium side. The pressure on them, plus their confidence has to be ruined. But, ifs and buts. Keep the faith.

thatdude
14 Jun 16, 01:19
Giacherinni despite the goal was extremely frustrating in the 2nd half. Was very surprised he got 90 minutes, especially with such a natural replacement in Florenzi on the bench (even Sturaro could have come in and done a job).

Darmian looked pretty poor today too, De Sciglio's touch and composure was better. Wouldn't be surprised to see him sneak into the the lineup for next game.

Immobile had a really good cameo, and Italy still have Insigne, El Shaarawy, and Bernadeschi on the bench. Hoping to see them get some opportunities sometime this tournament.

Inter2010
14 Jun 16, 01:28
Italy(2) vs Wilmots (0)

FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking - Belgium No: 2 , then italy should be No: 1

FIFA World Ranking is a total joke.

RichDAS
14 Jun 16, 01:43
This is why I f***ing love this country and team! Even when the odds are against us and everybody writes Italy off, do we show them! I'm so grateful that I have a team who do not feel inferior to our opponents and play with our pride and badge. The odds were stacked against us massively yet once again we showed everyone what we are capable of.

I'm now going to enjoy this comfortable silence as the world is once again shocked by our fantastic display of football :datass:

Armes
14 Jun 16, 03:17
to be honest, that wasn't much of a fantastic display of football from ita, but more a massive piece of shit game from belgium. Obviously, defensively Italy was top notch as usual, however it wasn't until immobile came on that things started to change. eder as a cf just makes me sad, even sadder that he's on our team. but yeah, belgium completely done goofed tactically and individually. it's like they all ate pot brownies just before the game.

kameru
14 Jun 16, 04:58
I must admit that this cunte really know how to drill his team, Italia Play just like his Juventus where Vucinic and Matri won them Scudetto. And it's NT where you don't have time to train like a club, still he manage to drill The squad. Something Mancini would never achieve.. :yao:

KevinB
14 Jun 16, 10:38
Conté makes limited players better, whereas Wilmots makes good players play worse.

Ronin
14 Jun 16, 10:41
Makes you wonder if the current Inter team isn't reaching its potential cause of Mancini, similar to Belgium.

KevinB
14 Jun 16, 10:50
Makes you wonder if the current Inter team isn't reaching its potential cause of Mancini, similar to Belgium.

It is quite comparable `

1. There is no system, just 'big' names who don't really link up (JoJo - Icardi - Ljajic >< De Bruyne - Lukaku - Hazard).
2. Always tries to adapt to the opponent and fails miserably
3. Fuck creativity (Melo - Medel >< Witsel - Fellaini)
4. Purposely doesn't start a player in form (Ljajic, Jovetic, .. >< Carrasco, Dembélé)
5. After an entire season still no offensive gameplay >< After 4 years in charge, still no fluent attack
6. Full back wheel of fortune >< Full back wheel of fortune 2.0
7. Always gets fucked against a tactical coach >< What are tactics?
8. Handanovic has to save his ass every game >< Courtois has to save his ass every game
9. Despite playing defensive, the defense still sucks

monster09
14 Jun 16, 11:02
It is quite comparable `

1. There is no system, just 'big' names who don't really link up (JoJo - Icardi - Ljajic >< De Bruyne - Lukaku - Hazard).
2. Always tries to adapt to the opponent and fails miserably
3. Fuck creativity (Melo - Medel >< Witsel - Fellaini)
4. Purposely doesn't start a player in form (Ljajic, Jovetic, .. >< Carrasco, Dembélé)
5. After an entire season still no offensive gameplay >< After 4 years in charge, still no fluent attack
6. Full back wheel of fortune >< Full back wheel of fortune 2.0
7. Always gets fucked against a tactical coach >< What are tactics?
8. Handanovic has to save his ass every game >< Courtois has to save his ass every game
9. Despite playing defensive, the defense still sucks

Not starting Carrasco was face palm worthy moment. He was in great form and played in CL finals, Dembele had s great season but somehow Fellaini started the game.

wicked wizard
14 Jun 16, 11:45
Conté makes limited players better, whereas Wilmots makes good players play worse.I just think that Belgium are so overrated. Even looking at the team sheet it's not exactly worldclass, especially that I don't even rate hazard that much. Am not the least bit surprised that italy won tbh.

KevinB
14 Jun 16, 11:59
I just think that Belgium are so overrated. Even looking at the team sheet it's not exactly worldclass, especially that I don't even rate hazard that much. Am not the least bit surprised that italy won tbh.

ah, overrated? Maybe, yes. But still players like Hazard, De Bruyne, Courtois are proven in multiple 'big' competitions. All the others are quite okay though. Looking at the sheets, Belgium should win.

wicked wizard
14 Jun 16, 12:17
ah, overrated? Maybe, yes. But still players like Hazard, De Bruyne, Courtois are proven in multiple 'big' competitions. All the others are quite okay though. Looking at the sheets, Belgium should win.Maybe, but I don't think the italy team is as weak as ppl are making out. It's obviously shite compared to its past teams, but so are most other big teams in this tournament imo.

Lionheart
14 Jun 16, 12:24
FORZA ITALIA!!! :') :') :') So much auwww tbh.

Right when nobody expects anything from them, they pull out a massive D & give it to everyone! 8==D Forzaaa

Dylan
14 Jun 16, 12:24
By that stage italy will hopefully be through and will rest some players. Shane long will do his thing against heavyweights. No harm, but i think we could definitely beat this Belgium side. The pressure on them, plus their confidence has to be ruined. But, ifs and buts. Keep the faith.

I would like to have played Belgium first. This might have woken them up a bit.

Bluenine
14 Jun 16, 12:36
Conté makes limited players better, whereas Wilmots makes good players play worse.

Very true. I don't have a high opinion of Wilmots as a manager. Why they didn't sack him after the world cup I can't understand.

That said, Conte picks players on things like work rate, ability to follow his orders, and places a lot of importance to continuity (how long they have been playing together), etc. So in a way, Conte deliberately picks "limited players" over more talented options. That is why relatively talentless players like Giaccherini are preferred to players with better quality like El Shaarawy, Bernardeschi, Insigne, etc... hell, Berardi is not even in the squad, and Parolo was preferred to Jorginho. If he was Belgium coach, its quite possible that Hazard or De Bruyne would be on the bench... or if he was the England coach maybe Vardy and Dele Alli would still be waiting for their first national cap. So there are plusses and minuses.

However Conte is the right coach for the current Italy because this generation lacks the talent we expect from Azzurri. There is no Baggio, Pirlo, Del Piero, Totti, etc... Conte's organised, well drilled team work somewhat compensates for that missing talent.

Harpsabu
14 Jun 16, 12:52
I would like to have played Belgium first. This might have woken them up a bit.

True, but i also feel like the enormous pressure facing them now might be even worse. If they fail to beat ireland the backlash they'll get from that.

Dylan
15 Jun 16, 17:33
Wilmots: "One-one would have been more deserved (against Italy). One team played football, the other didn't. What I want is attacking football and we have the DNA to play that game.""

He's just going to love us.

ADRossi
15 Jun 16, 17:57
Ah, yes.

I always love the "if you don't ignore defense and focus all your efforts on attacking, it's not real football" argument.

Tactics are stupid, teams should just ignore them.

kameru
16 Jun 16, 03:11
:awwyeah:
So defence isn't part of football now. Better switch his job to EPL Comentator.

thatdude
16 Jun 16, 18:33
The thing is Italy did attack and quite frequently at that. They were pushed back a bit in the 2nd half but they never stopped looking for the 2nd.

ADRossi
16 Jun 16, 18:56
Some guy on twitter posted this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck2lRZUXEAEIS92.jpg

With the caption "What footballers look like in 2016."

Batman
16 Jun 16, 19:56
Wilmots: "One-one would have been more deserved (against Italy). One team played football, the other didn't. What I want is attacking football and we have the DNA to play that game.""

He's just going to love us.

Its 2016 and there's still idiots who ignores defensive football and call it anti football. Its like he is laughing at himself, playing attacking football yet Italy scored two goals and they scored none.

Sokrates
16 Jun 16, 20:33
It just shows how limited as coach he really is.

KevinB
16 Jun 16, 22:02
And the funniest part is that we don't even play good offensive football :lol:

What a dipshit. I hope Ireland will tie or win. Instantly done with this clown in charge

Also hilarious that Wilmots thinks that Italy doesn't need a coach since their team has a lot of connection together (meaning that the defense knows each other in and out because they play together a lot at jube)


Where do Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Dembélé play again? Right.

Inter2010
17 Jun 16, 04:40
dudes don't be surprised... italy goes through to the final, and easily wins this competition

Forza Azzurri

Dylan
17 Jun 16, 14:22
Sweden better not try any funny business like winning or drawing.

Shaun
17 Jun 16, 14:33
dudes don't be surprised... italy goes through to the final, and easily wins this competition

Forza Azzurri

Not happening. There simply isn't enough talent in this Italy side.

firmino
17 Jun 16, 14:46
Quite boring until now. Maybe both sides fancy a draw

Dylan
17 Jun 16, 15:07
Sweden still no shot on target this tournament.

monster09
17 Jun 16, 15:11
Looks like your boy is doing well.

OptaPaolo ✔ @OptaPaolo

0 - Eder is the only player with 0 passes in the first half of #ITASVE. Disoriented. #ITA

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Looks like Eder is a legend after all.

Squawka Football ‏@Squawka 36s36 seconds ago
Eder has now both completed the FEWEST passes (2) and created the MOST chances (2) on the pitch.

Inter2010
17 Jun 16, 15:26
Ibrahimovic is "overrated" at international level... he's better only for domestic club$

Howl
17 Jun 16, 15:29
Ibrahimovic just missed the open goal from a yard out, thankfully for him it was offside :lol:

Inter2010
17 Jun 16, 15:29
Looks like your boy is doing well.

OptaPaolo ✔ @OptaPaolo


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Looks like Eder is a legend after all.

Squawka Football ‏@Squawka 36s36 seconds ago
Eder has now both completed the FEWEST passes (2) and created the MOST chances (2) on the pitch.

that's cuz he's not an italian

Howl
17 Jun 16, 15:44
Eder!!.. with an impressive finish. 1-0

JJM
17 Jun 16, 15:45
Eder the fenomeno

Bob Sacamano
17 Jun 16, 15:45
EDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RR

Ronin
17 Jun 16, 15:45
EDEEER!!!

Pajo
17 Jun 16, 15:45
What a fucking goal.

JJM
17 Jun 16, 15:51
If Italy want to win smth they need an Inter player
:troll:

Dylan
17 Jun 16, 15:51
Thank fuck.

Lyran
17 Jun 16, 15:52
That's a fucking penatly, rube paid the refs...

Ronin
17 Jun 16, 15:52
Sweden a one man team? More like a no man team. :lol:

JJM
17 Jun 16, 15:52
That's a fucking penatly, rube paid the refs...
Lel

Howl
17 Jun 16, 15:53
Didnt look like a penalty at all. That guy milked it

Lyran
17 Jun 16, 15:56
defender didn't even hit / touch the ball. and kept pulling the shirt. perhaps he fell a little easy, but that is a penalty.

firmino
17 Jun 16, 15:57
I'm happy for OUR player. I don't know if that was a penalty. It looks to me that chiellini touched the Swedish player, who on the other hand was just waiting to be touched to "collapse" in the area, so it isn't easy to understand.

Pajo
17 Jun 16, 15:59
No way that was a pen. Slight shirt pulling, thats nothing. Tge swedish player fell seconds later.

Lyran
17 Jun 16, 15:59
Yeah, I think. If he didn't milk it to much he might have gotten the penalty. But since he tried his best to dive it goes in favour of Italy.

Howl
17 Jun 16, 17:37
Nah it just wasn't a penalty. Slight contact, but not enough to really give it. He even started laughing the moment he got up. Italy deserved the win anyway.

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wrong thread :/

Fapuccino
17 Jun 16, 18:30
Not surprised to see Italy struggling. Always struggle when they're favorites and cant play on the counter.

ADRossi
18 Jun 16, 00:17
Did not deserve to win today. Thought we needed to start someone on the left wing a bit better at attacking than Florenzi. Whatever, got the job done. Conte's unwillingness to tinker mid-match made evident today.

Dylan
18 Jun 16, 11:52
Belgium line-up: Courtois; Meunier, Alderweireld, Vermaelen, Vertonghen*; Witsel, Dembélé; Carrasco, De Bruyne, Hazard; Lukaku

Dembele in for Fellaini. Fuck.

firmino
18 Jun 16, 12:03
this is how talksport presented the match: "a match between a Country famous for the production of beer and a Country famous for drinking it"

ScottishInterista
18 Jun 16, 12:51
Well its not wrong

Shaun
18 Jun 16, 12:56
What did Nainggolan do to get dropped? I thought he was one of their best players against Italy

KevinB
18 Jun 16, 13:39
Wilmots and Witsel are shower buddies.

Howl
18 Jun 16, 15:32
Ireland are getting trashed. Wont be surprised if it ends more than 3-0.

At least Lukaku is finishing his chances now

ScottishInterista
18 Jun 16, 16:25
RIP Dylan

ADRossi
18 Jun 16, 17:18
Won the group. Rest everyone versus Ireland and get ready for Croatia.

Dylan
18 Jun 16, 18:41
So kicking people in the head is legal now?

ADRossi
18 Jun 16, 19:24
So kicking people in the head is legal now?

What happened?

KevinB
18 Jun 16, 22:34
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13495027_1596498123976252_9173729830197107255_n.jp g?oh=0fabb1632e954b029ebc08e5b31baeab&oe=57C22E72

Inter2010
19 Jun 16, 00:21
That's only 2 kicks... but they got kicked three times 3 - Zip

ScottishInterista
19 Jun 16, 00:43
Dylan sounds salty

Dylan
19 Jun 16, 06:59
Dylan sounds salty

Not to mention not stopping play for the head injury leading to their goal.

Other than that I can have no complain, these things happen when you only hoof balls up to your striker, sometimes you hold on and snatch something, sometime you get dicked.

KevinB
19 Jun 16, 13:26
It's not that the Irish were that nice. For example that dude passing the second ball on the pitch to the Belgian attack..

Anyway, I found it a good defense, I'm pretty sure Long doesn't have any injury on it and was kind of acting a bit. Regardless, that's my black-red-yellow perspective. I expected more from Ireland

Dylan
19 Jun 16, 13:41
It's not that the Irish were that nice. For example that dude passing the second ball on the pitch to the Belgian attack..

Anyway, I found it a good defense, I'm pretty sure Long doesn't have any injury on it and was kind of acting a bit. Regardless, that's my black-red-yellow perspective. I expected more from Ireland

When Hendrick did that I was disappointed, he was always gonna get a card for that stupidity.

We got intimidated unfortunately. Against Sweden we had Brady left back who at least tries to pick out a pass from defence rather than hoofing it so Long had an impossible task to hold up the long balls. We would have been better off with Murphy if that was all we were going to do.

Going to need a massive performance against Italy.

kameru
19 Jun 16, 16:13
With Italy fielding their second string, Ireland could have Win it and hope for The best 3rd spot. With nothing to Play usually Italy Play in friendly mode :work:

Dylan
19 Jun 16, 16:33
That's what I hope for. Drawing with Sweden fucked us up.

Dylan
22 Jun 16, 15:39
Do or die time. Robbie Keane's last game in an Irish jersey too.

I know I'm in for disappointment but time to gear up the false hopes one last time.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03073/oshea-getty_3073064b.jpg

kameru
22 Jun 16, 16:01
Damn, I thought he is already Retired :notbad:

ADRossi
22 Jun 16, 20:31
Sturaro has been awful. 3 giveaways already.

Immobile and Zaza is redundant. One needs to come off for Insigne or Il Faraone.

Howl
22 Jun 16, 20:45
Hendrick having a good game so far. He's had a pretty good tournament too.

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ADRossi
22 Jun 16, 20:52
Ah that wasn't a penalty, he barely touched him.

Batman
22 Jun 16, 20:56
Italy is so frustrating to watch this game. Reminds me of Inter, cant even string 3 passes together. Also the amount of talentless players on the pitch is incredible, Sturaro and Florenzi cant comlete a simple easy pass.

Howl
22 Jun 16, 21:09
Ah that wasn't a penalty, he barely touched him.

Bonucci's foul on Long was a penalty in the box earlier.

And on the second one, the Elbow went into the players back to push him and looked like he barged him out the way mid shot. Seen those given all the time.

ADRossi
22 Jun 16, 21:17
Jesus Sirigu, what the F are you doing?

This is painful. Take off Bonucci and switch off 4 to the back. No point in risking a second yellow for him at this point.

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De Sciglio has been painfully bad

Howl
22 Jun 16, 21:24
I was surprised with why they played Bonucci when they already secured first spot.

Can't believe Sharaawy hasn't started either

ADRossi
22 Jun 16, 21:42
Please take Zaza off. I can't handle the errant passes.

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#FreeInsigne

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Deserved goal for Ireland

Howl
22 Jun 16, 21:43
Holy shit Ireland did it :lol:

Then again it wasnt thay surprising considering Italy didnt field a decent team

Ronin
22 Jun 16, 21:52
Congrats to our Irish Interistas!

Armes
22 Jun 16, 21:54
they took out Turkey cold turkey right?

Ziyad
22 Jun 16, 22:01
Congrats to Ireland, well deserved. It's always good to see Bonucci fuk up. Hope it's his last time wearing Italy armband

Howl
22 Jun 16, 22:06
England, Wales, Northern Ireland & Republic of Ireland in the last 16. :notbad:

Harpsabu
22 Jun 16, 23:11
Amazing win!! Had a feeling our Italian buddies would do us a favour with the team but we still played great tonight and deserved it

ScottishInterista
22 Jun 16, 23:11
England, Wales, Northern Ireland & Republic of Ireland in the last 16. :notbad:

Ill not try to hide my bitterness

firmino
22 Jun 16, 23:19
Italy was in friendly match mode. Ireland deserved to win though.

Harpsabu
22 Jun 16, 23:21
Italy was in friendly match mode. Ireland deserved to win though.

I dont think too many people over here will argue with that. But for ireland to make it out of a group like that is amazing

Inter2010
23 Jun 16, 04:28
Italy gave it away... Avoid France in the next round... so we get little Spain

Dylan
23 Jun 16, 07:37
Few drinks, popped pub for the big screen, few pints, win the game, cue endless hugging, run to off licence 5 minutes before it closes

*SCENE MISSING*

I've woken up at 6:30AM with an arm that doesn't look out of place in Requiem. Let's fuck France!

On the plus side, I have 25 euro in my pocket. I'm not sure if that's because I kept it, or if I went to an atm befoe going home.