PDA

View Full Version : FIF Oscar Nominations 2015



I4E
20 Dec 15, 10:24
The FIF Oscars nominations thread is now open. Each member can nominate as many members as they like per category, ideally keeping it at no more than 5-7 members per category. This thread will remain open for about a week or so, so please make your nominations as soon as possible.

- If a member you wish to nominate has already been nominated by others, please ensure you still nominate that person as this process is about determining which members would be most deserving to be made eligible.

- Please make your nomination based on your personal opinion and do not let trend or other members determine your choice.

- Once the nominating period is concluded, The mods will determine which nominated members will go into the respective pool for voting. The number of members per category may differ depending on nomination outcomes.

- Anyone that nominates themselves shall be considered a self centred twat and that nomination will not be considered.

Categories:

Best Overall Poster
Best Football Poster
Most Diverse Poster
Most Serious Member
Most Humorous Member
Nicest/Kindest Poster
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Most Stubborn Poster
Most Improved Member

Just like the last Oscars, the Best Newcomer award will not be taking nominations as the new members in 2015 (with a decent amount of posts) are automatically nominated when voting opens.

I encourage everyone to participate in both the nominating and voting process. The more participation, the more interesting the awards voting process becomes.

Good luck everyone. :shades:

ForzaNerazzurro
20 Dec 15, 13:11
So, is anyone going to vote on this...
I'm not qualified enough to nominate anyone here.






except bandiera for most pessimistic

wera
20 Dec 15, 13:31
So just vote for that, i think you can do that.

KevinB
20 Dec 15, 15:20
Best Overall Poster

Universe
Pajo
Shaun
Dylan
browha
Ronin

Best Football Poster

Shaun
Universe
bandiera
Y&h
browha
Wings

Most Diverse Poster

DomesticatedPimp
JJM
wera
Universe
Fitzy
ForzaMancini/Wallace
RMancini10

Most Serious Member

Nyall
CafeCordoba
Bandiera
I4E

Most Humorous Member

Universe
Fitzy
Devious
Bluenine
Big Willy
Dylan

Nicest/Kindest Poster

Pajo
Devious
ScottishInterista
Shaun
ElDuccio
Lui
JJM

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member

JJM
Enjoy
Javier'sSon
Devious

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member

bandiera

Most Stubborn Poster

bandiera
Wicked_Wizard
browha
wera

Most Improved Member

Ronin
Shark
Kenny
Black Knight

Best FIF Romance

wera-JJM
Certified Youth Manusnovic - Guney

Shaun
20 Dec 15, 16:17
Best Overall Poster

Universe
Dylan
browha


Best Football Poster

thatdude
Universe
bandiera
Y&h
browha
Wings
ADRossi

Most Diverse Poster

DomesticatedPimp
JJM
wera
Universe
Fitzy
Dylan

Most Serious Member



Most Humorous Member

Universe
Fitzy
Big Willy
Kenny

Nicest/Kindest Poster

Aurel
ADRossi



Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member

Enjoy


Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member

bandiera
wera


Most Stubborn Poster

bandiera
hansolo
browha
wera
Sqnalkel (http://forzainterforums.com/member.php?5946-Sqnalkel)
ElDuccio

Most Improved Member

Kazaan (http://forzainterforums.com/member.php?6145-Kazaan)



I will edit and add more later as certain categories are somewhat difficult to nominate for

ScottishInterista
20 Dec 15, 17:54
Best Overall Poster
Shaun
Y&H
Dylan
Browha

Best Football Poster
Y&H
Bandeira
thatdude
wings

Most Diverse Poster
Pimp
Wera
Universe
Fitzy
Javier's son

Most Serious Member
Bandeira

Most Humorous Member
Uni
Fitzy
Big Willy
Dylan
Kenny

Nicest/Kindest Poster
Devious
Fitzy

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Enjoy
jjm
Bluenine

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Bandeira
(Strange not putting Nyall here

Most Stubborn Poster
Bandeira
JJM
Wera
Shaun
Browha

Most Improved Member
....

ADRossi
20 Dec 15, 19:07
Best Overall Poster
Shaun, Dylan, Universe
Best Football Poster
Shaun, Monster09, Bluenine
Most Diverse Poster
Wera, Black Jesus, Fitzy
Most Serious Member
Bandeira, I4E, Enjoy
Most Humorous Member
Universe, Devious
Nicest/Kindest Poster
Shaun, Aurel
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Pimp, Enjoy, Nyall
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Bandeira,
Most Stubborn Poster
Browha, Bandeira, Fap
Most Improved Member
Javier's Son

monster09
21 Dec 15, 09:11
Best Overall Poster
Shaun
Wera
Y&H
Universe

Best Football Poster
Bluenine
Shaun
Wera
Jrgnsn
ADRossi
thatdude
bandeira
Wings



Most Diverse Poster
Wera
Pimp
Fap

Most Serious Member
CafeCordoba

Most Humorous Member
Fitzy
Dylan
Universe
Devious

Nicest/Kindest Poster
Pajo
Dylan
Fitzy
Shaun
ADRossi
Cal
ScottishInterista
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Bluenine
Pajo

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Bandeira


Most Stubborn Poster
Bandeira


Most Improved Member

Apologies to few whom I may have missed out. Hard to remember all the names.

.h.
21 Dec 15, 10:29
I swear these lists are just copy and pastes year on year.

Aurel
21 Dec 15, 10:46
Well it means we have some really consistent members right?

.h.
21 Dec 15, 10:49
or no good new ones
:troll:

Aurel
21 Dec 15, 10:51
Hahahahahaha yeah

Big Willy
21 Dec 15, 13:48
Nicest/Kindest Poster
Cal


bwhahahahhaha.

monster09
21 Dec 15, 13:49
bwhahahahhaha.

?

:(

Ronin
21 Dec 15, 13:58
bwhahahahhaha.
Definitely not Big Willy.

Big Willy
21 Dec 15, 14:02
?

:(

Cal is a salty jock, that's why I found funny his nomination to be the "kindest" poster of FIF.

Dylan will agree with me.

These are bantz between us though, it's all love.

ScottishInterista
21 Dec 15, 14:11
Whens the post of the years being able to be voted on

JJM
21 Dec 15, 14:47
PM me if you want to buy my vote tbh.

wera
21 Dec 15, 16:38
Best overall ... give kazaan a nomination
Also nicest. Aurel is pretty nice too.

Otherwise other nominations were on point.

Kenny
21 Dec 15, 18:32
fml, i started to write the names on my tablet and accidentally closed the tab
i'll start over tomorrow cuz now it pissed me off

.h.
21 Dec 15, 18:48
It should autosave on the forum shouldnt it?

Kenny
21 Dec 15, 18:52
didn't do it, i almost went melo on the tablet
anyway, tomorrow is also a day

Kenny
22 Dec 15, 06:03
Categories:

Best Overall Poster
Shaun, Ronin, Fitzy, I4E, Pajo

Best Football Poster
thatdude, Bluenine, KevinB

Most Diverse Poster
DaPimp, ADRossi, wera, Dylan

Most Serious Member
Armes, Jrgnsn

Most Humorous Member
Universe, Black Jesus, dynasty27, RMancini10 (mr.lube)

Nicest/Kindest Poster
Devious, ScottishInterista, Batman

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
morrisama (epic win), enjoy (in a stupid way)

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Ronaldo *All our rivals have won their games. Watch us fuck up against Lazio...

Most Stubborn Poster
browha, bandiera (not bandeira you fuckers)

Most Improved Member
Aurel (good job with the podcasts), ElDuccio, Kazaan, Y&h

Give a cookie to Verathia for his awesome visuals.

Kenny
22 Dec 15, 08:29
Best post of the year:


We must win. I don't think there is enough attention paid to the fact that Juve, as an institution, as a fanbase, is utterly deplorable. These are people who defame and slander us at any opportunity. The fact that the authoritative bodies allow this to slide is irrefutable evidence of just how insidious and toxic Juventus is. These people want to degrade us and they want others to hate us. As far as I'm concerned, Inter should be fucking aggressively pursuing legal action against any media group or establishment which supports or further spreads the lies that Juventus consistently fabricate and promote - regarding Moggi, regarding Calciopoli, regarding the amount of scudetti they/we have won.

To willingly support and knowingly accept the outright libel and filth that the likes of Moggi spew is to willingly choose bastardry, insolence and contempt. To not only worm their way out of more severe punishment but then to turn around and goad the notion of common sense and decency by bringing a lawsuit for €440 million against the FIGC? The arrogance is quite honestly nauseating. This is why Juventus fans are literally intolerable and immensely unlikable people. There are those whose brains are simply not rationally wired to question their own fault, for example, a dangerous driver who blames those traveling at the speed limit for his inevitable and deserved accident, rather than reflect whether his own reckless driving was a factor. Juventus fans, by the simple act of supporting their club, clearly demonstrate this lack of rationality and integrity.

The club is dogshit. Actually, I like dogs, and therefore even dogshit is too noble a term for Juventus. They are the corporate embodiment of cancer. An insidious disease which consumes and corrupts the body (in this case, the league and country) it grows in. I don't care how good they've become and how shit we've become. Any opportunity on or off the pitch to defend ourselves against this parasitic garbage should be absolutely taken with as much force as we can humanely muster. We must win.

I4E
22 Dec 15, 09:44
Best posts voting will open when voting on the Oscars starts at the end of this week.

Rasha
22 Dec 15, 10:48
Best Overall Poster
fifi293120
Fizy

Best Football Poster
Bluenine
bandiera
jrgnsn

Most Diverse Poster

Wera
Pimp
uni fucker

Most Serious Member
CafeCordoba
jrgnsn
JJM

Most Humorous Member
Devious
Universe
fap

Nicest/Kindest Poster
bluenine
ScottishInterista
wera

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Bluenine
Pajo

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Bandeira


Most Stubborn Poster

Most Improved Member
brother kazaan

Fitzy
22 Dec 15, 11:49
I'm planning to vote when smashed on Boxing Day, as us cultured folk do.

JJM
22 Dec 15, 19:06
Best Overall Poster
fifi293120
Fizy

Best Football Poster
Bluenine
bandiera
jrgnsn

Most Diverse Poster

Wera
Pimp
uni fucker

Most Serious Member
CafeCordoba
jrgnsn
JJM

Most Humorous Member
Devious
Universe
fap

Nicest/Kindest Poster
bluenine
ScottishInterista
wera

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Bluenine
Pajo

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Bandeira


Most Stubborn Poster

Most Improved Member
brother kazaan

Rasha WTF?! you drunk m8?! :yao:

Dylan
22 Dec 15, 19:10
Best Overall Poster



Best Football Poster



Most Diverse Poster



Most Serious Member


Most Humorous Member



Nicest/Kindest Poster



Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member



Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member



Most Stubborn Poster



Most Improved Member

I'll get onto this is a second.

Rasha
22 Dec 15, 22:17
Rasha WTF?! you drunk m8?! :yao:

well i said few times when i first joined this forum wera was first to welcome me ... so thats about it :D :D

you bro i had to put you somewhere and fifi well fuck fifi :D

i am sober for a long time bro i just went crazy... so maybe i should get back to fitzy mode

KevinB
22 Dec 15, 22:36
:alone:

JJM
22 Dec 15, 23:42
Best Overall Poster

thatdude
Shaun
Ronin

Best Football Poster

thatdude
Bluenine
Shaun

Most Diverse Poster

Devious
Da'Pimp
Fitz


Most Serious Member

CafeCordoba
Jrgnsn
y&h


Most Humorous Member

Rasha
Dev
Kenny

Nicest/Kindest Poster

Howl
y&h
Ronin

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member

morisama
enjoy InterdaScudo
browha

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member

bandiera

Most Stubborn Poster

bandiera
browha
wera


Most Improved Member

Aurel
ELDuccio
Zoro

most Belgian member

KDB :work:


you better have those white envelopes ready mofo's...

Armes
23 Dec 15, 01:40
Best Overall Poster
Kazaan
vasilios

Best Football Poster
bandiera
Kazaan


Most Diverse Poster
wera
Pimp
jjm


Most Serious Member
bandiera
cafecordoba

Most Humorous Member
Kenny

Nicest/Kindest Poster
Aurel
Dylan


Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
enjoydascudeto
RMancini10


Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
bandiera


Most Stubborn Poster
bandiera


Most Improved Member
Aurel
Y&H

Universe
23 Dec 15, 03:44
There could be no better time to vote than when sitting on the toilet, battling a particularly resilient shit while simultaneously having a bat.

Best Overall Poster
enjoy, Shaun, I4E, ADRossi / vagisilios (need to post more though, I can't imagine their time is particularly valuable. Especially vas, dude only posts 'lol' whenever we concede a shit goal)
Best Football Poster
Shaun, I4E, browha, n4l - big tobagan bastard, post more often
Most Diverse Poster
Wera, Devious, Pajo, black Jesus
Most Serious Member
Bandeira
Most Humorous Member
enjoy, I4E, Josef Fitzl, Dylan, Scottish
Nicest/Kindest Poster
You're all shit
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Bluenine
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Bandeira
Most Stubborn Poster
Bandeira, browha, Fapuccino
Most Improved Member
Scottish, Pharaoh, browha / bandiera for their recent installations of a sense of humor processors

ADRossi
23 Dec 15, 04:58
Best Overall Poster
ADRossi / vagisilios (need to post more though, I can't imagine their time is particularly valuable. Especially vas, dude only posts 'lol' whenever we concede a shit goal)


:lol:, here's recent vasilios post history:


lol


well fuck


lol


fucking hell


lol

.h.
23 Dec 15, 08:48
ive always had a sense of humor, you just dont understand tokelauan humor

Shaun
23 Dec 15, 10:15
:lol:, here's recent vasilios post history:


Give him the award now

Y&h
23 Dec 15, 20:22
Best Overall Poster

Dylan


Best Football Poster

Shaun


Most Diverse Poster

wera


Most Serious Member

Sqnalkel


Most Humorous Member

Universe


Nicest/Kindest Poster

Devious


Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member

Bluenine


Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member

bandiera


Most Stubborn Poster

browha


Most Improved Member

Kazaan

wera
23 Dec 15, 20:24
We need to give y&H some kind of award for most hardworking FIF member

Pimpin
23 Dec 15, 20:44
give him a break, he thought he is in the cagliari game thread

Y&h
24 Dec 15, 00:02
We need to give y&H some kind of award for most hardworking FIF member



http://i.imgur.com/dvE6yCk.gif






Ffs, I forgot this was the nominating phase. :palm:

I'm sorry people this is my first time voting since I've been following Pajo's abstaining code.

I'll try to add a couple of names later.

Armes
24 Dec 15, 00:34
oh yeah, I completely forgot it's Y&h doing the stats.
wera's right - i put him under most improved, the same with Aurel, both for lack of a proper category, since there should be a 'community contributor' or 'fif contributor', smth like that.

Javier'sSon
24 Dec 15, 06:01
since there should be a 'community contributor' or 'fif contributor', smth like that.

Pretty sure that's what the Special Ones is for.

Jane The Virgin
24 Dec 15, 15:12
Best Overall Poster - KevinB, Bluenine
Best Football Poster - Bluenine, sometimes OC, Y&H
Most Diverse Poster - I4E, Wings
Most Serious Member - Handayo, CafeCordoba
Most Humorous Member - Devious, Enjoy, freaking Kenny man kills me everytime
Nicest/Kindest Poster - bleh.
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member - rasha, enjoy
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member - there are lots.
Most Stubborn Poster - browha, bandiera
Most Improved Member - ronin


I would add two other nominations:

Most overrated member
Most underrated member

iThrowRocksAtBlindKids
24 Dec 15, 15:32
Not even one nomination for most perverted/degenerate?

Fuck you guys. You're all a bunch of Rube dick riders.

Andysam
24 Dec 15, 15:41
*looks for herself being nominated* *fails* :cry:

Jokes apart, I would say Y&H should be nominated as Best overall poster, not just because the ratings thing he is doing is amazing, but also because he does some great posts, I still remember last year he wrote that post that ended saying something like "we are interisti, we should be the last persons to see stuff black and white" (it was one of the first things I read when I came into this forum)... And honestly I'm pretty sure he was nominated as most improved member last year, you can't be most improved every year, right? (sorry, totally not stalking you Y&H)... What I mean is that his contribution to the forum goes beyond just doing the amazing job with the ratings and the pretty tables.

Besides that, I agree with most of the nominations 's already made :) I would just add Batman as kindest poster :D

Black Knight
24 Dec 15, 15:48
Y&h should get a special award for long-term dedication to Crisetig. :thumbsup:

Not even Crisetig's father followed his career as closely as Y&h. :yao:

ScottishInterista
24 Dec 15, 16:11
*looks for herself being nominated* *fails* :cry:

Jokes apart, I would say Y&H should be nominated as Best overall poster, not just because the ratings thing he is doing is amazing, but also because he does some great posts, I still remember last year he wrote that post that ended saying something like "we are interisti, we should be the last persons to see stuff black and white" (it was one of the first things I read when I came into this forum)... And honestly I'm pretty sure he was nominated as most improved member last year, you can't be most improved every year, right? (sorry, totally not stalking you Y&H)... What I mean is that his contribution to the forum goes beyond just doing the amazing job with the ratings and the pretty tables.

Besides that, I agree with most of the nominations 's already made :) I would just add Batman as kindest poster :D

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/shocked_joey_friends.gif

Shark
24 Dec 15, 16:13
Best Overall Poster
Bluenine, Pajo, Shaun, Ronin

Best Football Poster
Bluenine, browha, JJM

Most Diverse Poster
Javiersson, wera

Most Serious Member
bandiera, Shaun

Most Humorous Member
Devious, Pimpinainteasy, Universe

Nicest/Kindest Poster
Devious

Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
Devious, Pajo

Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
bandiera

Most Stubborn Poster
bandiera, browha

Most Improved Member
Aurel (like mentioned above for his podcast contributions)

.h.
24 Dec 15, 16:32
Y&h is the reason I got out of scout reports on our kids on loans. Realised I could not compete.

Kakaroto
24 Dec 15, 16:40
*looks for herself being nominated* *fails* :cry:

Jokes apart, I would say Y&H should be nominated as Best overall poster, not just because the ratings thing he is doing is amazing, but also because he does some great posts, I still remember last year he wrote that post that ended saying something like "we are interisti, we should be the last persons to see stuff black and white" (it was one of the first things I read when I came into this forum)... And honestly I'm pretty sure he was nominated as most improved member last year, you can't be most improved every year, right? (sorry, totally not stalking you Y&H)... What I mean is that his contribution to the forum goes beyond just doing the amazing job with the ratings and the pretty tables.

Besides that, I agree with most of the nominations 's already made :) I would just add Batman as kindest poster :D

Y por que no me nominas a mi? Me duele el corazon ahora. :broken::broken:

:lol::lol::lol:

Pimpin
24 Dec 15, 20:25
id win most underrated member

Wings
24 Dec 15, 21:00
Whoever won most underrated would no longer be underrated :work:

Black Knight
24 Dec 15, 21:06
Whoever won most underrated would no longer be underrated :work:

http://img-comment-lol.9cache.com/media/8af71855141682300283402412_700wa_0.gif

ScottishInterista
25 Dec 15, 00:42
Most Kindest is mines to lose (everyone is getting called a Kent)




P.S took me 4 attempts to spell everone

Kenny
25 Dec 15, 06:11
I'll get onto this is a second.

Time is relative :brozo:

Andysam
25 Dec 15, 15:25
Y por que no me nominas a mi? Me duele el corazon ahora. :broken::broken:

:lol::lol::lol:

If it makes you feel any better, I did think about it, but I couldn't decide which category fitted better your versatile personality. :pat: ;)

Devious
25 Dec 15, 17:00
Best Overall Poster - Y&H, KevinB, Bluenine, Fappuccino, Uni, Ronin, Dylan
Best Football Poster - Bluenine, Thatdude, Y&H, Browha, Bandiera
Most Diverse Poster - JJM, Shaun, Y&H, I4E, Wings, Browha, Jrgnsn
Most Serious Member - CafeCordoba
Most Humorous Member - Uni, Kenny, Black knight, Dylan, Fitzy, Scottishinterista, KevinB, Ronin, Shark, Lui, Black Jesus
Nicest/Kindest Poster Pajo, Fitzy, Wobblze, William
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member - Nyall, Browha
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Most Stubborn Poster
Most Improved Member - Ronin, Thatdude, Fap, Black knight

Miss FIF: MVD, Andysam, Fitzy

.h.
25 Dec 15, 17:33
Most Optimistic? Srs?
Putting Fitzy down for miss fif is caitlyn jenner winning woman of the year

Shark
25 Dec 15, 18:02
Best Overall Poster - Y&H, KevinB, Bluenine, Fappuccino, Uni, Ronin, Dylan
Best Football Poster - Bluenine, Thatdude, Y&H, Browha, Bandiera
Most Diverse Poster - JJM, Shaun, Y&H, I4E, Wings, Browha, Jrgnsn
Most Serious Member - CafeCordoba
Most Humorous Member - Uni, Kenny, Black knight, Dylan, Fitzy, Scottishinterista, KevinB, Ronin, Shark, Lui, Black Jesus
Nicest/Kindest Poster Pajo, Fitzy, Wobblze, William
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member - Nyall, Browha
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
Most Stubborn Poster
Most Improved Member - Ronin, Thatdude, Fap, Black knight

Miss FIF: MVD, Andysam, Fitzy


http://i.giphy.com/AjkUQrzvs5OCc.gif

.h.
25 Dec 15, 18:07
You were "short"listed

Wings
27 Dec 15, 01:04
Best Overall Poster
-Shaun, wera
Best Football Poster
-Shaun, thatdude, bandiera, Universe, browha
Most Diverse Poster
-Shaun, wera
Most Serious Member
-bandiera
Most Humorous Member
-Universe, Fitzy, Dylan, ScottishInterista
Nicest/Kindest Poster
-Universe
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
-Bluenine, Toninu, enjoy
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
-bandiera
Most Stubborn Poster
-browha, bandiera
Most Improved Member
-Y&h (did I vote for you last year), Kazaan, ScottishInterista

Pimpin
27 Dec 15, 01:22
Best Overall Poster
-Shaun, wera, Uni, Fitzay
Best Football Poster
Browha
Most Diverse Poster
-Shaun, wera
Most Serious Member

Most Humorous Member
-Universe, Fitzy
Nicest/Kindest Poster
-Shaun
Most Optimistic (Overly Positive) Member
-, enjoy
Most Pessimistic (Overly Negative) Member
-bandiera
Most Stubborn Poster
-browha, bandiera
Most Improved Member
Kazaan, Ronin, Aurel

.h.
27 Dec 15, 01:24
Best Football Poster
Browha


I love you

Pimpin
27 Dec 15, 01:29
I love you

we really need to see a shrink for our love/hate relationship.

sorry for shaun and bandiera, but as long as you trash icardi you aint getting there

nurko
27 Dec 15, 20:20
I wanted to vote but I've been away for couple of months, rarely visiting so can't really place votes at random. I guess Shaun is going strong again this year.

JJM
27 Dec 15, 21:10
Just wanna make it known that all the kents who didn't nominate me at all...you are all dead to me.However for those who did you can expect a exponential growth in your post/thank ratio.
Also this isn't personal it's just good business...

Yes I may or may not have a drink...............to many

I4E
28 Dec 15, 02:43
Nominations are closed.

Voting thread will open soon.