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thatdude
08 Sep 20, 14:13
https://www.inter.it/it/news/2020/09/08/calciomercato-inter-aleksandar-kolarov-ufficiale.html

Pajo
08 Sep 20, 14:16
Welcome Aleksandar. Gonna just quotr myself here:


Totally not excited about him. Would have been perfect LWB, like 8 years ago.

Its cool to have people like him in the squad, but we already have Young as experienced wing back. He is soon to be 35, coming after 2 mediocre seasons where his contribution has been free kicks mostly. He doesnt have the stamina he used to have and he doesnt even bother defending.

That being said, imo transfer that was not needed at this time. We need to build for present but also future, having two 35 years old LWB might fuck us up badly..

Edit: he would be awful LCB. He has played like 10 games there his entire club career. His defensive workrate, positioning and marking have been a problem for him his entire career. That stopped him from being the best LB in the world.

Sokrates
08 Sep 20, 14:23
welcome #notforeveryone

do we use him as left winger, or as left defender in the back 3?



https://fabwags.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Aleksandar-Kolarov-wife-Vesna-Kolarov-pic.jpg

qb4ever_2k
08 Sep 20, 14:38
Welcome Aleksandar. Gonna just quotr myself here:

Ok, I’m officially excited.

phonk
08 Sep 20, 14:41
:awyeah:

Shark
08 Sep 20, 14:46
Welcome!

Hope we sign Krasic next.

diamen
08 Sep 20, 14:46
Welcome old man

Lui
08 Sep 20, 14:52
We can boast 70 years of experience between Young and Kolarov.

"Modern application of artisanal skills and traditional values that you can expect from the Inter family."

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DARi0
08 Sep 20, 15:01
Welcome champ Xander (https://www.transfermarkt.com/aleksandar-kolarov/erfolge/spieler/46156)

Better late than never, eh?:pedobear:

“Aleksandar Kolarov is officially a new Inter player,” the club wrote in a statement. “The Serbian has moved on a permanent deal with the Nerazzurri from AS Roma.

Roma have revealed Kolarov moves for €1.5m, plus €0.5m in possible bonuses linked to certain targets.

https://i.gyazo.com/524d96ea7b4593c627838f1b24d954a7.png
Hope you add several Scudetti to your achievements, while scoring a couple of goals for Inter.

forzainter257
08 Sep 20, 15:01
Welcome and hope you score at least 5 goals from freekicks.

Glass box
08 Sep 20, 15:09
We need a poll here. :awwyeah:

n4l
08 Sep 20, 15:14
Welcome and hope you score at least 5 goals from freekicks.


But we already paid 30M + 10M/yr for free kick specialist Eriksen!!

Harpsabu
08 Sep 20, 15:31
Should be a decent option for this year. Should have signed him when he left city but.

Nero Indigo
08 Sep 20, 15:32
Meh, hope he does well enough to not be an embarrassment and then he can move on to a final retirement club.

Harpsabu
08 Sep 20, 15:39
https://twitter.com/RSharmzz/status/1303325794668871680?s=19

Lui
08 Sep 20, 15:50
But we already paid 30M + 10M/yr for free kick specialist Eriksen!!Most of our organization thinks Eriksen is a myth, or at most an unrefined youngster with limited experience who got lucky 50 times.

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I4E
08 Sep 20, 15:56
welcome #notforeveryone

do we use him as left winger, or as left defender in the back 3?



https://fabwags.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Aleksandar-Kolarov-wife-Vesna-Kolarov-pic.jpg

Use him off the bench in the last 5 minutes to score free kicks...

Also, is that a hover-hand ?! Good bloke that Aleksandar.

Also again, is it just me or are the shiny grey slacks an eastern European thing ?

Welcome to Inter

I4E
08 Sep 20, 16:10
https://twitter.com/RSharmzz/status/1303325794668871680?s=19

:lol: we need love not violence

Solfice
08 Sep 20, 16:19
At least 5 years too late.

Universe
08 Sep 20, 16:40
5? Try 15. Anyway, welcome, Niko Bellic. Hope you and "Cousin Romian" can lend a helping hand.

Linege
08 Sep 20, 16:50
https://media1.tenor.com/images/b18a85f6ffa4ac2046d66f9e677a769a/tenor.gif

CafeCordoba
08 Sep 20, 17:02
Kolarov is just fine. Apart from the cost which is 7m€ total for this season. :D Little less if we extend him, then it's about 6.25m€, for both seasons. Like said, not a cheap player, specially given he's 35.

RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot
08 Sep 20, 17:03
5? Try 15. Anyway, welcome, Niko Bellic. Hope you and "Cousin Romian" can lend a helping hand.

Brozo: "Aleksandar my cousin, let's go bowling."

iMathcore19
08 Sep 20, 17:34
At least 5 years too late.

10 years

I'mNewHere
08 Sep 20, 17:56
Reallly ? Kolarov ?

nurko
08 Sep 20, 18:13
Never realized he was so tall.

brehme1989
08 Sep 20, 19:02
He's a decent player as a stop gap. Hopefully we use him well and he plays with the right mindset here. Shame that he arrived 10 years too late.

Glass box
08 Sep 20, 19:07
Reallly ? Kolarov ?

Surprised?

pupivn
08 Sep 20, 19:21
welcome to 10 years later club :trollol:

Pajo
08 Sep 20, 19:37
He's a decent player as a stop gap. Hopefully we use him well and he plays with the right mindset here. Shame that he arrived 10 years too late.

Problem is, we do have a stop gap.. We needed younger player there. And he aint that cheap either.

brehme1989
08 Sep 20, 19:55
Problem is, we do have a stop gap.. We needed younger player there. And he aint that cheap either.

It's a double stop.

Eddie
08 Sep 20, 20:03
https://twitter.com/RSharmzz/status/1303325794668871680?s=19

Lol reminds me of Kimi raikkonen.

Native
08 Sep 20, 20:27
Welcome to Inter grandpa

Aries
09 Sep 20, 03:23
Glad we're finally making the 2012 transfer list happen ��

Hakimi got his work cut out

Universe
09 Sep 20, 05:14
Brozo: "Aleksandar my BRATE, let's PLAY DARTS."

Fixed.

Speaking of, few know that GTA IV is actually a watered down, heavily censored retelling of I4Eís life as a young wog in Melbourne. Back against the wall, crackheads and artisan types on every corner trying to sell their dark roast coffee and craft beer.

Candreva Crosses
09 Sep 20, 14:51
Fixed.

Speaking of, few know that GTA IV is actually a watered down, heavily censored retelling of I4E’s life as a young wog in Melbourne. Back against the wall, crackheads and artisan types on every corner trying to sell their dark roast coffee and craft beer.

People here call I4E old. I don't think many members here would survive a night out drinking with that man.

Javier'sSon
09 Sep 20, 16:37
Looking forward to him shutting me up every time he assists or scores a deflected freekick.

francesco
09 Sep 20, 19:36
Problem is, we do have a stop gap.. We needed younger player there. And he aint that cheap either.

well, our other stop gap is young :troll:

I4E
09 Sep 20, 22:50
Fixed.

Speaking of, few know that GTA IV is actually a watered down, heavily censored retelling of I4Eís life as a young wog in Melbourne. Back against the wall, crackheads and artisan types on every corner trying to sell their dark roast coffee and craft beer.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTjC4Brn/images-jpeg-45.jpg

diamen
10 Sep 20, 11:08
welcome video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk6l8LHKtXA&ab_channel=Inter

nurko
10 Sep 20, 11:25
Well it started awkward, but ended up nice.

.h.
10 Sep 20, 11:43
media budgets getting cut too i see :D

William
10 Sep 20, 11:45
Well that was just terrible!

Shark
10 Sep 20, 11:51
Embarrassing stuff, this. :lol:
.
Barella's was the least cringiest one.

vex
10 Sep 20, 11:59
Fully expected them to continue with country themed videos. Rakija, lamb or pig roast could have been a perfect answer for why his free kicks are great. :D

They went nerd route instead of balkan route :D

H_D_Swagger
10 Sep 20, 12:08
https://i.imgflip.com/4egodu.jpg

Adriano
10 Sep 20, 12:36
lol that was....interesting

dynasty27
10 Sep 20, 12:48
Can't wait for Inter Media's creativity for the Darmian video

vex
10 Sep 20, 12:57
Can't wait for Inter Media's creativity for the Darmian video

Quantum mechanics equations at the start of the video and serious scientist man voice asking how can someone be so mediocre and shit.

diamen
10 Sep 20, 13:08
Can't wait for Inter Media's creativity for the Darmian video

The video starts showing Darmian as pizzaman. Then mailman, plumber, office worker, science man etc. The video ends with caption "Matteo Darmian - Mr Versatile".

Adriano
10 Sep 20, 13:10
don't forget to keep your "sound on" though

Bluenine
10 Sep 20, 13:19
Awesome. They had to mega jinx his free kicks.

afitafit
10 Sep 20, 13:29
Our own George Clooney.

I4E
10 Sep 20, 13:37
Can't wait for Inter Media's creativity for the Darmian video

I've seen the leaked, unedited version. It's basically Darmian polishing Kolorov's boots and doing a really shit job of it. Obviously he ain't good enough to polish Aleksandar's boots.

CafeCordoba
10 Sep 20, 13:46
He basically confirmed he came to play as LCB.

via58
10 Sep 20, 14:24
Awesome. They had to mega jinx his free kicks.

Don't worry we still got Eriks... oh. yeah.

phonk
10 Sep 20, 14:30
media budgets getting cut too i see :D

They blew it all on acid

Strale
10 Sep 20, 16:30
I get it, it's so far gone, IMH needs to double down on cringe. It's meta now.

BasedGodPunk
10 Sep 20, 23:34
Heíll be useful as a sub for Bastoni in the 89th minute when weíre down 1-0 to Juve.

Lui
11 Sep 20, 00:18
Don't worry we still got Eriks... oh. yeah.I'd much rather see kolarov than biraghi waving off eriksen from free kicks.

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Candreva Crosses
11 Sep 20, 00:50
https://i.imgflip.com/4egodu.jpg

I don't think you know how that pictureworks.

Universe
22 Sep 20, 11:42
https://i.ibb.co/TgM7WF9/Screenshot-2020-09-22-204059.png

n4l
22 Sep 20, 12:18
toldo @ 40

:trollol:

Ffi201zi002tlis
22 Sep 20, 17:26
Can he dye his hair? Dude looks like he's enjoying his 60s with grandkids or something

I4E
22 Sep 20, 17:32
https://i.ibb.co/TgM7WF9/Screenshot-2020-09-22-204059.png

There's something Ivan Milat-ish about this pic...

Note : For the non-Aussies, google Ivan Milat. Don't @ me after you do so. Just saying.

NimAraya
23 Sep 20, 15:49
https://i.ibb.co/TgM7WF9/Screenshot-2020-09-22-204059.png

Damn. Being a year older, I am somehow happy I aged better than him.

wera
23 Sep 20, 20:06
I feel like his grey hair looks good.

Il Drago
25 Sep 20, 11:26
This guy is giving me Sinisa Mihajlovic vibes.

brehme1989
25 Sep 20, 14:39
This guy is giving me Sinisa Mihajlovic vibes.

Will score against Roma and coach Milan?

Il Drago
25 Sep 20, 14:52
Will score against Roma and coach Milan?

It's more about the things he's going to offer. Quality set pieces, perhaps some good long balls and that's it. We signed him too late to get more out of him.

Glass box
25 Sep 20, 15:06
If he plays a part in our winning Coppa Italia this season like Miha did, I'm in.

NimAraya
25 Sep 20, 19:15
This guy is giving me Sinisa Mihajlovic vibes.

Like being a great free kick taker and shitty defender?

Pajo
26 Sep 20, 21:15
Kolarov and positioning.. Worst combination ever :palm: He wont work as LCB ever. Backup LWB at most.

BasedGodPunk
26 Sep 20, 21:15
He's finished. Wasted signing. I'm not sure he'll be able to play a positive role for us vs anyone this year.

Tsuna
26 Sep 20, 21:46
already hate this cunt

diamen
26 Sep 20, 21:54
well, maybe his form will give more chances to Pirola... Like Bastoni won competition with Godin one year ago.

He's way too slow.

YoramG
26 Sep 20, 21:56
Yeah, that was...bad. No other word for it.

syrus
26 Sep 20, 21:57
His positioning tonight was awful

dynasty27
26 Sep 20, 21:57
Grey ass player made all tifosi grow more grey hair after the first game

M.Adnan
26 Sep 20, 21:58
Conte: we should sell Skriniar because he's too slow and LCB/RCB isn't his natural position..




*buys Kolarov*

TheNetworkZ
26 Sep 20, 22:01
fucking brutal game

CafeCordoba
26 Sep 20, 22:17
If this is the plan with defenders, we're not winning Scudetto this season, period. He might bring experience and veteran leadership but it looks it should stay to the locker room, at the pitch doesn't seem to be useful enough as the tradeoff is this what we saw against Fiorentina.

Solfice
26 Sep 20, 22:19
Alex, get your shit together, you aren't playing for Roma anymore...

Il Drago
26 Sep 20, 22:20
I said it from the first moment we were linked with him. The only thing he can offer is set pieces. He's a terrible defender. Always was.

crzdcolombian
26 Sep 20, 22:46
I said it from the first moment we were linked with him. The only thing he can offer is set pieces. He's a terrible defender. Always was.

Set pieces awful and defending laughable

Only bright side is this is a 1 year deal

He had me wishing Rano had started. How in the hell did we pay Godin to leave to bring this guy!!’

CafeCordoba
26 Sep 20, 22:49
Set pieces awful and defending laughable

Only bright side is this is a 1 year deal

He had me wishing Rano had started. How in the hell did we pay Godin to leave to bring this guy!!’

Indeed. Godin cost like maybe 10m€ gross for us so yes, he was expensive as fuck (according to calcio e finanza). But Kolarov costs us almost 7m€ gross for this season. And we paid a golden handshake to Godin. Insane fucking salary to a player who we can use basically only against Serie A minnows, other teams will surely exploit his positioning and slowness.

Glass box
26 Sep 20, 22:50
That Guarin-like shot killed like 5 birds.

I'mNewHere
26 Sep 20, 22:51
What a suprise he sucked

magnesium
26 Sep 20, 22:58
What do you expect when Left back and Left Winger playing at same time :awyeah: :awyeah:

Perisic + Kolarov. :oblivious:

BRUTAL.

Kramerica Industries
26 Sep 20, 22:58
I mean, I get that De Vrij was out, but it's not a requirement that you must play with three CBs. If you're going to force a 3ATB formation and put Kolarov out there out of position over a more viable formation...you've got a problem. I don't even want to blame him necessarily because his instincts are to get forward and he's got no pace left at this stage of his career. Maybe don't play that guy as a CB where there's no line of protection to help him, eh?

RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot
26 Sep 20, 23:41
oof.

surripere
27 Sep 20, 01:38
Conte should be sacked for this signing alone.

William
27 Sep 20, 01:50
He’s not a CB, as soon as I saw him in the back 3 I was like wtf is this shit!!!

Hopefully this was a wake up call for Conte

Irequis
27 Sep 20, 04:52
We conceded 2 goals directly due to his fault. Look at how easily he was beaten in aerial duel and not playing by the whistle. And it was embarassing that he remained static for Chiesa's goal and even Perisic ended up closer to the goal although he ran all the way from halfline. Not to mention all the shaky and unconvincing moment whenever Fio played the ball to his side. Seriously even Skriniar at his worst was much better than this senile moron. He is an absolute wanker at being LCB and his only purpose should be as a sub in dying minute when we chase a goal.

Ethor
27 Sep 20, 07:31
Man, and people thought Valero was old.

PHM1605
27 Sep 20, 08:40
Am I the only person who thinks blaming only Kolarov for the first conceded goal is unfair? He faced TWO Fio players at the same time, what did you expect him to do? Outjumps both of them to clear the ball? That central position isn’t his to begin with.

I blame Bastoni more than Kolarov, but surely people is ignoring Bastoni coz he is younger...

Black Knight
27 Sep 20, 08:42
I blame Bastoni more than Kolarov, but surely people is ignoring Bastoni coz he is younger...

I can't be bothered to check, but I'd imagine Kolarov was already a professional football player when Bastoni was born. That gulf in experience means people are much more willing to cut the younger guy some slack.

MKSerbia
27 Sep 20, 10:41
As someone already mentioned, he was also criminal as CB in Serbian NT.

Barely, I can't remember when was the last time I saw him hitting the ball with his head, and he is supposed to be here at Inter CB. Frightening.

For positioning also no words are needed. His energy and legs will probably be also worse and worse by each new month.

Reserve LWB at most. At CB Pirola would do much better job. For Škriniar is needless to say.

IRR26
27 Sep 20, 10:52
Kolarov was good on the ball but bad defensively. Not like everyone who knew him could predict this.

It was Conte's brainfart to use Perisic who primarily doesn't want to defend and Kolarov who cannot defend on the same side.

Conte's lineup was just like lottery. Totally random players picked to starting XI.

CafeCordoba
27 Sep 20, 11:02
Am I the only person who thinks blaming only Kolarov for the first conceded goal is unfair? He faced TWO Fio players at the same time, what did you expect him to do? Outjumps both of them to clear the ball? That central position isn’t his to begin with.

I blame Bastoni more than Kolarov, but surely people is ignoring Bastoni coz he is younger...

It is unfair to blame just him. I blame him for playing that play way too softly. D'Ambrosio fucked up the offside trap there which Kolarov was counting on.š however.

JJM
27 Sep 20, 19:12
My new favorite player to piss on, since Candreva left... Horrible defender

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BasedGodPunk
27 Sep 20, 19:18
Ashley Young would make a better CB than Kolarov. And that's saying something. It's unreal that a dude as experienced as him was as out of position as often as he was yesterday. Poor Bastoni had to cover two positions.

magnesium
27 Sep 20, 19:50
My new favorite player to piss on, since Candreva left... Horrible defender

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Imagine playing Candreva as RCB. :troll:

thatdude
28 Sep 20, 04:12
This will be a one season experiment.

NimAraya
28 Sep 20, 04:39
Can Inter do an Erkin on him and get rid of him already? He sucks as LCB and doesnt have the legs to play as LWB, so he probably going to suck there as well.

Candreva Crosses
28 Sep 20, 05:05
My new favorite player to piss on, since Candreva left... Horrible defender

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Can someone change my username to Sniper Kolarov

Demenza Senile
28 Sep 20, 10:03
Can someone change my username to Sniper Kolarov

Kolalol Kurls?

diamen
30 Sep 20, 10:41
article about Kolarov's contribution in Fiorentina's goals:
https://www.calciomercato.com/news/l-inter-scopre-kolarov-non-puo-fare-il-braccetto-52794
you can easily translate it automatically using Chrome.

Summary: he can't defend.

DARi0
30 Sep 20, 13:56
Can someone change my username to Sniper Kolarov
Mods please don`t disregard this man`s request.


This will be a one season experiment.
Bergomi also cast doubt over the amount of game time Aleksandar Kolarov will get this season, despite making his full debut in Antonio Conteís three-man defence at the weekend.
ďI like him but I donít think heíll be first choice for Inter. Heís a strong personality but Inter will need to play a high defensive line this season.Ē

CafeCordoba
30 Sep 20, 14:35
And this is a player who costs Inter almost 7m€ this season.

Pajo
30 Sep 20, 14:41
Its been one game tho. I was one of those that didnt want him here, but he will do better as backup LWB. Will probably score few free kicks and will have mediocre season, but not shit as he was in the first game.

Il Drago
30 Sep 20, 19:00
Forget Darmian. This guy is the worst transfer of the season. He should never play as a cb again else he's gonna cost us games.

CafeCordoba
30 Sep 20, 19:08
He's a liability every time we lose the ball in the midfield or let them initiate a fast counter-attack. Simply so fucking slow player.

His long passes are excellent, like we saw in that first goal. Also a bit shorter passes are strong and precise.

brehme1989
30 Sep 20, 19:09
The irony is that we're set for a 4 man defense with Kolarov (or Bastoni) on the left, Hakimi on the right and De Vrij + Skriniar there, but he wants Skriniar to pretend he's a right back so D'Ambrosio is going to get more minutes and Godin is cast away... We have Hakimi who's an attacking full back, there's no one similar on the left, so why punish Perisic so much or use Ashley Young... And you have like 8 central midfielders.

This cannot be the way forward. Reminds me of Roma under Rudi Garcia somehow.

magnesium
30 Sep 20, 19:12
This guy can't even defend. Worst than other defender. Just like playing Wingeer or Midfielders as CB. Wrong move Conte.

William
30 Sep 20, 20:19
He needs to just be a bench option to swap in for when Young is fucked.

We need our back 3 back and this guy has no place in it.

M.Adnan
30 Sep 20, 20:30
I'm literally seeing flashbacks of Mihajlovic at Inter. Serbian, too slow and old to defend at Inter but has a good left foot.

The only difference is that Mihajlovic was actually a natural CB and his left foot is one of the best ever. So yeah, Kolarov is worse so well done.

Il Drago
30 Sep 20, 20:33
I'm literally seeing flashbacks of Mihajlovic at Inter. Serbian, too slow and old to defend at Inter but has a good left foot.

The only difference is that Mihajlovic was actually a natural CB and his left foot is one of the best ever. So yeah, Kolarov is worse so well done.

Thank you. I thought i was the only one.


This guy is giving me Sinisa Mihajlovic vibes.

InterFCAustin
30 Sep 20, 20:37
I’m re watching Beneventos second goal, and i don’t know why some of you blame Kolarov for that goal.
What am I missing?

francesco
30 Sep 20, 21:13
the fact that we skipped telles for 8.5M back then and getting 35 years old kolarov for 1.5M (+500k extra) is just blown my mind

Lui
30 Sep 20, 21:43
I'm gonna give him a few games before I call him an old cunt

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CafeCordoba
30 Sep 20, 21:44
Quite a random comparison given skipping Telles for 8.5m€ back then indeed happened back then, several years ago.

Candreva Crosses
30 Sep 20, 21:45
Anybody care to summarize his first half of the game?

DARi0
30 Sep 20, 21:49
Easy: too slow and defensive liability.

IM21
30 Sep 20, 22:01
Anybody care to summarize his first half of the game?

good with the ball, bad without it.

Black Knight
30 Sep 20, 22:07
Credit where it's due, his brilliant pass to Hakimi for the first goal was really good, though.

Candreva Crosses
30 Sep 20, 22:31
Credit where it's due, his brilliant pass to Hakimi for the first goal was really good, though.

Sniper Kolarov :awyeah:

InterFCAustin
30 Sep 20, 22:32
He was good today. Im not sure why so much hate. None of the goals were his fault.
And our first goal came from a sublime long ball to Hakimi.

BasedGodPunk
30 Sep 20, 22:33
He was decent today. But against Benevento is about where his starts should begin and end.

InterFCAustin
30 Sep 20, 22:45
He was decent today. But against Benevento is about where his starts should begin and end.
Sure. I dont think he was brought here with the idea of him starting every game.
He's a more then good back-up to Bastoni.

IRR26
30 Sep 20, 23:16
Kolarov is good with the ball but too much risk because he cannot defend or position correctly.

If even against Benevento he was liability then I just cannot believe he can be counted against more dangerous teams.

Conte seems to insist putting him as starter. Interesting to see who starts against Lazio.

surripere
01 Oct 20, 00:21
Solid. He's fine for games like this. He's better as a LCB than LWB now.

Candreva Crosses
01 Oct 20, 03:13
Solid. He's fine for games like this. He's better as a LCB than LWB now.

He's better at the bench. If I could choose then rather on the stands.

Choppin Onions
01 Oct 20, 04:21
Kolarov is good with the ball but too much risk because he cannot defend or position correctly.

If even against Benevento he was liability then I just cannot believe he can be counted against more dangerous teams.

Conte seems to insist putting him as starter. Interesting to see who starts against Lazio.

It probably goes without saying that Lazio is a significantly better team than Benevento. Especially going forward. There’s no way Bastoni should be on the bench against them. Kolarov has his positive attributes but he’s no defender that’s for damn sure.

Irequis
01 Oct 20, 06:51
How on earth you can call him defensively sound? :chan:
He is anything but calamity in our defence. The second Benevento goal and Chiesa's goal are almost similar in the sense attackers can easily ghost behind Kolarov easily and you bet the latter will not make proper recovery. Benevento hit the crossbar before the second goal and it was a grave warning that Kolarov cannot contain anything thrown at him. It is also apparent that they focused on attacking our left side and we continously concede dangerous ball from there.
Generally, average centerback is either slow but positionally smart (De Vrij) or positionally awful with fast recovery (Murillo). Unfortunately, Kolarov is neither of them and I hope we never see him starting game again.

NimAraya
01 Oct 20, 07:36
How on earth you can call him defensively sound? :chan:

Because Inter won. And when the team wins, you gotta sugarcoat shit into gold, or you will be called a "hater"!

Kolarov is a weak link in defence. Even when he was young and playing as FB I was not a fan of him, because he was not defensively solid and made all those ridiculous shots from long distances and tight angles which barely hit the target. You can't suddenly expect him to become a solid player at 34 years old, in a position which is not even his natural position.

I really hope the club is not relying on this set of defenders for this season; worse if Skriniar is sold and replaced by a worse defender.

Demenza Senile
01 Oct 20, 08:02
the fact that we skipped telles for 8.5M back then and getting 35 years old kolarov for 1.5M (+500k extra) is just blown my mind

I saw yo username Francesco and immediately went Coco and not Toldo in my head.:palm: That should never happen but this is that sorta thread so ...........

rfU
01 Oct 20, 08:44
I hope we never see him starting game again.
I'm certain Kolarov will start more games to afford Bastoni rest ahead of big games (like lazio this weekend). Bastoni is going to have a long and successful career at inter and for that to happen he needs to play regularly (not compete with another young talented CB ie Kumbulla) and rest every 4/5 games to recalibrate.

CafeCordoba
01 Oct 20, 09:29
Yeah we cannot push Bastoni to carry too high burden yet, he's so young. Kolarov is just such a liability that he should be used against these beneventos only so the attack can carry no matter who's defending.

I'mNewHere
01 Oct 20, 12:51
Hate him, but that left foot, that pass for the first goal yesterday. It is just pure class.

magnesium
01 Oct 20, 13:55
Hate him, but that left foot, that pass for the first goal yesterday. It is just pure class.

Basically we playing Beckham as LCB. :notbad:

DARi0
07 Oct 20, 18:30
Hate him, but that left foot, that pass for the first goal yesterday. It is just pure class.

Everyone knows about Kolarov :D

Haaland: 'Kolarov is a legend'

Norway take on Serbia in a Euro 2021 qualifier tomorrow and the talented striker was full of praise for the Inter star during today’s press conference.

“Serbia has big players, especially and Kolarov,” Haaland said.

The former Manchester City defender joined Inter from Roma during the summer transfer window that closed this past Monday.

“He is a legend of football and he has a golden foot. I am sure he will play. Regardless of who will be on the pitch we’ll have to create them some troubles”.

Candreva Crosses
08 Oct 20, 03:13
Marotta needs to buy Haaland he voicing how he wants to play with a legend like that. C'mon Ausilio.

brehme1989
08 Oct 20, 09:03
We needed to buy him when he moved to Dortmund but we didn't even show a legit interest officially. (Ausilio was snooping around but with no permission to proceed)

Candreva Crosses
08 Oct 20, 10:03
We needed to buy him when he moved to Dortmund but we didn't even show a legit interest officially. (Ausilio was snooping around but with no permission to proceed)

We didn't have Kolarov then.

CafeCordoba
08 Oct 20, 10:20
We needed to buy him when he moved to Dortmund but we didn't even show a legit interest officially. (Ausilio was snooping around but with no permission to proceed)

It wasn't relevant. Juve wanted Haaland and they couldn't get him. Raiola and Haaland wanted to go where they can play every match. Wouldn't have happened at Inter nor at Juve.

rfU
08 Oct 20, 10:59
We needed to buy him when he moved to Dortmund but we didn't even show a legit interest officially. (Ausilio was snooping around but with no permission to proceed)

Why wait that long, he was the best striker of the U20 WC in 2019


It wasn't relevant. Juve wanted Haaland and they couldn't get him. Raiola and Haaland wanted to go where they can play every match. Wouldn't have happened at Inter nor at Juve.

https://j.gifs.com/D1v9xx.gif

Haaland would start at Inter.

qb4ever_2k
08 Oct 20, 11:08
Why wait that long, he was the best striker of the U20 WC in 2019


Haaland would start at Inter.

Right now, maybe. But go back 6 months and tell me that with a straight face. Haaland himself also declined Real (or was it Barca?) due to playtime concern.

brehme1989
08 Oct 20, 11:11
Why wait that long, he was the best striker of the U20 WC in 2019




Just using that date coz he actually transferred somewhere. Sure, RB had him a little while before and he'd be a great buy, some of us mentioned him back then as well.

Il Drago
08 Oct 20, 11:20
Haaland would start over who? Conte is in love with Lukaku so benching Lukaku isn't an option for him. Lautaro was in great form till January so benching him would make no sense. We couldn't give any guarantees to Raiola Haaland would be a starter. No one could predict Lautaro would be in such a poor form in second round.

MKSerbia
09 Oct 20, 12:51
Yesterday was the best game of Serbian NT in the last decade. Complete domination in Oslo. Kolarov as LCB also showed great determination for 120 minutes. He was great at passing and especially for delivering long balls to RWB Lazović.

Haaland and Sorloth were mostly invisible, mainly because of the great job Serbia did in MF.

Generally, Kolarov defended solid, as expected didn't hit the ball with his head, but was also as expected good with his feet. Against teams in lower half of table in Serie A he can be a useful sub for Bastoni and maybe, but just maybe against stronger teams and only if we play with 2 defensive minded players in the MF.

dax21
09 Oct 20, 13:45
Yesterday was the best game of Serbian NT in the last decade.

This. I told the guys in the whatsapp group that Serbia is 99% going to lose (especially since SMS wasn't starting), but truth is that no one could predict that we would play like this. I might look like a fool right now but it's a pleasant suprise.

NimAraya
11 Oct 20, 07:18
With all the pieces falling apart it seems THE LEGEND is going to start in the derby. Already NOT looking forward to this match.

I'mNewHere
17 Oct 20, 17:57
get out

Serie B
17 Oct 20, 17:58
Culpable in both the goals so far. Made a needless challenge in the box. Could have fouled Ibra outside OR held him up inside. Managed to make the worst decision.
Then keeps Ibra onside for the second and caught in no man's land trying to intercept the cross.
This guy needs to never play another minute in this shirt

Kramerica Industries
17 Oct 20, 18:06
Culpable in both the goals so far. Made a needless challenge in the box. Could have fouled Ibra outside OR held him up inside. Managed to make the worst decision.
Then keeps Ibra onside for the second and caught in no man's land trying to intercept the cross.
This guy needs to never play another minute in this shirt

Asamoah treatment needed.

brehme1989
17 Oct 20, 18:18
Asamoah treatment needed.

He didn't ask for a contract renewal yet.

uny_arturo
17 Oct 20, 18:58
Never liked this transfer to begin with. Extremely pointless.

Financial motives aside it was poor play from us to oust Godin for him.

M.Adnan
17 Oct 20, 18:59
At this point anything other than last in the pecking order is a crime.

Universe
17 Oct 20, 19:02
The cunt is nothing but a training cone with a powerful left foot. Needs to go. Terminate his contract right now for all I give a shit. Make him train with the kids or send him to the stands for a full year. Fucking historically abysmal transfer and it's been just 4 games.

Ronaldo
17 Oct 20, 19:03
Was the salary difference between Godin and Kolarov so big that it was worth terminating Godinís contract and signing this clown instead?! Can someone please find out the difference? Iím preparing for a trip to Milan so I can spit in the face of the genius responsible for this move!!

.h.
17 Oct 20, 19:03
i'd tell this guy to drown himself but he'd probably miss that as well.

brehme1989
17 Oct 20, 19:05
Why are you blaming this guy? Did he ask to come and be a starting center back?

ElDiego22
17 Oct 20, 19:07
Dumbass.

dynasty27
17 Oct 20, 19:11
What a colpo by Roma. Strengthening their defense with our target Kumbulla and offloadng Kolarov to us.
Even Verthongen wouldnt have been that atrocious.

NimAraya
17 Oct 20, 19:19
Roma didnt believe Inter is stupid enough to trade Zaniolo for a has been injured drunk, but Nobody believed Inter is stupid enough to replace Godin with this guy.

Earth
17 Oct 20, 19:54
This needs to end now. Take the L and play Pirola

RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot
17 Oct 20, 20:15
This needs to end now. Take the L and play Pirola

Pirola is at Monza.. in retrospect he should have stayed though.

Earth
17 Oct 20, 20:15
Pirola is at Monza.. in retrospect he should have stayed though.

well fuck :oblivious:

Harpsabu
17 Oct 20, 20:49
Was the salary difference between Godin and Kolarov so big that it was worth terminating Godin’s contract and signing this clown instead?! Can someone please find out the difference? I’m preparing for a trip to Milan so I can spit in the face of the genius responsible for this move!!

We had to get rid of Godin so we could get vidal.

But this guy has been awful. If it was a conte, so far it looks badly wrong and needs to stop. He's awful.

Palacio
17 Oct 20, 21:02
Roma didnt believe Inter is stupid enough to trade Zaniolo for a has been injured drunk, but Nobody believed Inter is stupid enough to replace Godin with this guy.

If Marotta and Ausilio and Conte continue at Inter, don't rule out fininshing 8th or ninth starting with this season. The Zhangs need to run the club not hand it to a couple of fools who aren't competent enough to work at a pizza shop.

CafeCordoba
17 Oct 20, 22:05
Was the salary difference between Godin and Kolarov so big that it was worth terminating Godin’s contract and signing this clown instead?! Can someone please find out the difference? I’m preparing for a trip to Milan so I can spit in the face of the genius responsible for this move!!

Kolarov costs Inter almost 7m€ this season. Godin would have cost almost 10m€ but we ended up paying him golden handshake to leave so the difference between Kolarov's and Godin's cost isn't even that big (it's less than 3m€ depending how much we paid to Godin).

Kolarov is put in a position to fail. He cannot be a LCB in defence line which plays so high, he's caught off position all the time. I cannot understand why don't we have a plan B for these cases when our first choice CBs are not available.

Besnik
17 Oct 20, 22:16
Why are you blaming this guy? Did he ask to come and be a starting center back?

Well, he didn't, but as a professional football player who's got plenty of experience, he has to know better on positioning and defending. I mean it's been only like a few games and he has already committed way too many errors which cost Inter lose points. It's not entirely his own fault because defending in this season seems scandalous, but the way he defends and adjusts himself in the pitch it's just criminal.

Conte is an idiot to not realise this yet. Yes, we had a couple of absences, but just switch the formation for fucks sake. It's crystal clear that Perisic doesn't work as a wing-back as well. He doesn't work as a starter in our line-up as well, lol.

It's still early, so problems can be repaired, but first of all, Conte has to quit being an idiot, then secondly he has to quit using Kolarov as LCB, and thirdly he has to find out something for a left wing-back position because Perisic cannot defend or attack. He is way too predictable and slow on decision making which lets to ruining our actions or counter-attacking football.

I also think that Brozo should be dropped out of line-up. He seems to be off-form.

Harpsabu
17 Oct 20, 22:20
Why are you blaming this guy? Did he ask to come and be a starting center back?

Position in this case doesn't matter, you don't dive in the way he did for the penalty. Then for the next goal, his positioning was bizarre. He's been a defender all his life, these werent failures for being played as a centre back, but just from him being fucking dumb.

n4l
17 Oct 20, 23:00
Position in this case doesn't matter, you don't dive in the way he did for the penalty. Then for the next goal, his positioning was bizarre. He's been a defender all his life, these werent failures for being played as a centre back, but just from him being fucking dumb.

Him playing to the best of his abilities. He's always been a poor weak side defender and extremely poor transition defender in man-down situations. ALWAYS.

The question is, how can teams consistently play 2 vertical passes and end up being man-up against us? With the coach saying we're in our "balanced" formation?

Harpsabu
17 Oct 20, 23:08
Him playing to the best of his abilities. He's always been a poor weak side defender and extremely poor transition defender in man-down situations. ALWAYS.

The question is, how can teams consistently play 2 vertical passes and end up being man-up against us? With the coach saying we're in our "balanced" formation?

Your first paragraph can give him the benefit of the doubt maybe for the second goal. The penalty though was such a stupid stupid decision and tackle.

Second point, absolutely. I agree. We look way too open and a lot of attacks against us look dangerous.

Fapuccino
17 Oct 20, 23:16
Like I said when we signed him, since when the fuck does Kolarov play as a centerback? Roma's defence has historically been dog crap.

TheNetworkZ
17 Oct 20, 23:23
I literally could not believe what I witnessed.

We can't continue with this guy. We should've just played 4 at the back.

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brakbrak
18 Oct 20, 01:55
Whats worse is this guy is gonna keep playing as lcb as stated by conte lol

alvaro
18 Oct 20, 02:56
Just saw the goals, jesus fucking christ seriously. He's an absolute liability in that position, fingers, toes and dick crossed Bastoni misses 0 minutes from this moment on.

Batman
18 Oct 20, 03:00
This guy is a disaster. Apart from the two goals he literally caused, he also caught out of position too many times, and almost cost us a goal or two due to wrong passes in our own box. Just ship him back to Roma for free and buy back Godin for 2m for all I care.. dumb management.

Pimpin
18 Oct 20, 05:00
there's a difference between he is not a LCB and not looking like a professional football player. Ibra set him up like a dummy in first goal and second goal he literally was lost, no idea of where his man is

Universe
18 Oct 20, 08:32
Brothers, I need your help..

Ronaldo
18 Oct 20, 08:41
This time you gotta do it yourself Uni...

magnesium
18 Oct 20, 11:22
Chill, If Godin need more than 6 months to adapt Conte tactics, Kolarov maybe need more time. :oblivious:

NimAraya
18 Oct 20, 11:52
Brothers, I need your help..

Is that Lolarov on your avatar? Looks like a mix of a bar bouncer and a sex trafficker.

.h.
18 Oct 20, 13:43
apparently he's cost us 5 of our 8 conceeded goals this season...

I4E
18 Oct 20, 14:02
Can someone remind me again why Godin was sent away and replaced by Kolorov ?

n4l
18 Oct 20, 14:04
Conte blamed "others", insinuating it was not his idea :lol::lol::lol:

brehme1989
18 Oct 20, 14:05
Can someone remind me again why Godin was sent away and replaced by Kolorov ?

https://static.miraheze.org/nonciclopediawiki/3/3a/Antonio_Conte_con_gatto_in_testa.jpg

Ronaldo
18 Oct 20, 14:23
How is terminating Godin’s contract Conte’s fault?!

RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot
18 Oct 20, 18:00
Kolarov is the type of guy you really want to like too; he's got a really good personality. Shame that he's been at fault for more than half of the goals we've conceded so far...

CafeCordoba
18 Oct 20, 20:43
How is terminating Godinís contract was Conteís fault?!

He told Godin after the season that Godin doesn't fit to his plans. Godin told this himself, so he needed to move on. Of course the salary was a big part of that, but it was probably agreed in the Black Tuesday (:trollol:) that salaries need to be sliced for Vidal and Godin was the prime candidate.

Ronaldo
18 Oct 20, 20:50
He told Godin after the season that Godin doesn't fit to his plans. Godin told this himself, so he needed to move on. Of course the salary was a big part of that, but it was probably agreed in the Black Tuesday (:trollol:) that salaries need to be sliced for Vidal and Godin was the prime candidate.
I never read that from Godin! You got an article or something?

Candreva Crosses
18 Oct 20, 21:30
Brothers, I need your help..

I like your avatar, way better than your last one.

Fapuccino
18 Oct 20, 22:36
I would still like to see him at LWB. Maybe not starting every game, but I think he could be good against bottom table teams. Just not at CB.

Candreva Crosses
18 Oct 20, 22:38
The only thing Kolarov should do at Inter is collecting his salary. Nothing more please sweet Conte.

M.Adnan
18 Oct 20, 22:51
Imagine if we've actually sold Skriniar. :D What situation we'd be in right now? At this rate, Kolarov can single-handedly drag us to Serie B. I haven't seen something THIS bad in a long time!

Doffy
18 Oct 20, 22:53
Just delete this motherfucker from the damn club. Theeee worst deal we've made since Kuzmanovic. - Kuzkuz for the pals. This guy takes the cake
Poor Godin... Poor Inter :yao2:

Puma
19 Oct 20, 00:05
I'm still in disbelief about how poor he was against Milan.

I did not wake up to watch the game at 2:30am in Australia. However, I got up at 5:00am and watched a replay. I was still waking up when I saw the lineup and for some reason I paused it and found myself staring at Kolorov's inclusion in the eleven. I had not seen any spoilers of the result but just felt that it was going to be a long game with him in the eleven.

The penalty he gave away was atrocious. What I do not understand is why he made the tackle when he was goal side and in the right position. There was no need to for him to attempt that tackle in the box. The penalty was an absolute dead giveaway: a goal giftwrapped for Zlatan and Milan.

Based on what I have seen thus far, Kolarov should in no way be allowed near the starting eleven. He should be a bench player that we call on as a last resort.

CoolMan44
19 Oct 20, 00:47
Penalty was awful. Reminded me of that ridiculous penalty Materazzi gave away against Ibrahimovic in the 10/11 season.

Kolarov was awful and at this point I'd rather see Darmian playing if Bastoni is not available.

Lui
19 Oct 20, 00:52
Cant even hate him, he cant play there.

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Irequis
19 Oct 20, 03:59
Darmian will be an upgrade over Lolarov. Not because the former is better, but the latter is simply too awful to be considered professional footballer. Darmian is hated because he provides zero spark for offence and mediocre at defending. Imagine Biraghi without attacking intent and without crossing but with positional versatility. On the other hand, Lolarov offers negative contribution for defence. We thought he covered the spot when in he was slumbering on the pitch (see Chiese and Ibra 2nd goal). We thought the situation was under control when suddenly he thought it was a briliant idea to scythe Ibra's heel in the box. We are not even talking many precarious situations not leading to goal.

Adriano@10
19 Oct 20, 09:18
Meh penalty was fucken stupid but imho dumbro was the bigger problem this game then kolarov. On the 1:0 it s dumbro who is sleeping which keeps Zlatan onsides which even but Kolarov in the situation where he fouls zlatan.
On the second one leao just toys with dumbro, yes i know kolarov is also not with his man...

IRR26
19 Oct 20, 09:30
Cant even hate him, he cant play there.

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But the thing is that he can't play anywhere else.

He used to to be a good wingback or fullback but he doesn't have pace to play there anymore. Kolarov is good at passing and long balls but he cannot defend.

He is pretty much done at Inter level. Maybe as a midfielder he could be somekind useful but Conte is shooting his leg by putting him to defend.

Inter's defence lacked speed at decision making and passing last against better teams but they could defend and allowed only few goals. I don't understand why they ruined it. Letting Godin go was strange and stupid but they even wanted to sell Skriniar.

NimAraya
19 Oct 20, 09:58
Inter has to go for someone like Milenkovic or another solid defender in January. We cant go on like this with this set of defenders for the whole season. We might even have difficulties getting into the top 4 with this defence. I dont know what the hell Conte and the board was thinking by weakening the backline, but they have to fix it in January.

brehme1989
19 Oct 20, 10:16
Inter has to go for someone like Milenkovic or another solid defender in Januray. We cant go on like this with this set of defenders for the whole season. We might even have difficulties getting into the top 4 with this defence. I dont know what the hell Conte and the board was thinking by weakening the backline, but they have to fix it in Januray.

Nah as much as I rate Milenkovic, we just need to scrap this 3 man nonsense and get a quality left back. If the coach doesn't like it, he can fuck off. We cannot let him keep damaging this club's long term situation.

Il Drago
19 Oct 20, 10:35
Nah as much as I rate Milenkovic, we just need to scrap this 3 man nonsense and get a quality left back. If the coach doesn't like it, he can fuck off. We cannot let him keep damaging this club's long term situation.

Even with a switch to a back 4 we would still need a cb. Hakimi would be a defensive liability in a back 4 so we would need a defensive lb to cover for him who would become a third cb whenever we attack. Bastoni would be great in that role.

Harpsabu
19 Oct 20, 10:41
That's where milenkovic is perfect because he can play at CB and rb.

brehme1989
19 Oct 20, 11:02
Even with a switch to a back 4 we would still need a cb. Hakimi would be a defensive liability in a back 4 so we would need a defensive lb to cover for him who would become a third cb whenever we attack. Bastoni would be great in that role.

We can use Bastoni as a left back with either Young or Kolarov as rotation options.
D'Ambrosio can be Hakimi's backup. Young also could fill that role.

Then you have Skriniar and De Vrij starting, with Bastoni as a potential backup and Ranocchia the obvious backup. We would still need a center back, but not one of Milenkovic's quality&potential combination. Someone like Godin still being here would have been amazing as his playing time demands wouldn't be excessive and he'd be more than great to serve as the rotation CB between both De Vrij and Skriniar. We need that kind of a player since Ranocchia isn't that.

We have been crippled by the insistence to get rid of Godin, Skriniar and Ranocchia with no real alternatives in sight. Just consider that we were preparing to replace those three with Smalling, Kolarov and maybe someone like Izzo. Disastrous plan and it won't go away unless Conte and/or his 3 man defense goes first.


Milenkovic as right back is not terrible, but he's not great either. It's like having Ivan Cordoba as a full back, we've tried that and it wasn't pretty. He only is better than Skriniar out wide in a 3 man defense because he has better lateral movement, not because he can play on the line.

surripere
19 Oct 20, 12:33
People need to be sacked over this signing.

Jusef
19 Oct 20, 12:54
Kolarov was not brought in for his defensive abilities. He created the chance for the goal against Milan, which demonstrates why he was brought in.

His challenge on Ibra was a huge mistake.

Adriano@10
19 Oct 20, 13:07
Kolarov was not brought in for his defensive abilities. He created the chance for the goal against Milan, which demonstrates why he was brought in.

His challenge on Ibra was a huge mistake.

Only reason he was brought in is conte.......
In no way shape or form would he be here if conte was not our coach

_OC_
19 Oct 20, 13:08
Kolarov was not brought in for his defensive abilities. He created the chance for the goal against Milan, which demonstrates why he was brought in.

His challenge on Ibra was a huge mistake.

I'm not quite sure that one hockey assist makes up for having been at fault for five out of the eight goals we've conceded thus far during the 270 minutes of football he's played.

Clearly, judging from his press interview after the last match, it looks like Conte doesn't agree. What do I know.

NimAraya
19 Oct 20, 14:41
Nah as much as I rate Milenkovic, we just need to scrap this 3 man nonsense and get a quality left back. If the coach doesn't like it, he can fuck off. We cannot let him keep damaging this club's long term situation.

We know that won't happen. Conte probably wont fuck off till the end of the season nor he switch to back 4, so Inter has to invest in January; not only for a solid CB, but also for a proper LWB.

n4l
19 Oct 20, 15:07
Only at Inter do we CREATE problems, to then complain and have to fix it. We literally just paid Godin to go away.....and weeks later, now looking to janaury to "make a CB signing"

:lol::lol::lol::palm:

CafeCordoba
19 Oct 20, 21:04
It was probably just to dump his salary and cut the costs (as there was still one year left of Godin's massive salary). It was required to make room for Vidal. So that was a two-year plan with that swap.

But Kolarov doesn't help us financially hardly at all this year. He costs almost 7m€ for the club, Godin would have cost like 10m€. Add to the current case (paying to have Kolarov) the costs of the golden handshake paid to Godin and we're talking about maybe 1-2m€ difference in annual cost for this year.

It's a MASSIVE fucking downgrade in defensive ability. The tradeoff is the better ability to start plays from the back. So far the numbers don't look good since Kolarov hasn't provided THAT much added control and key passes compared to the pure mistakes which have led to opponents scoring goals.

magnesium
19 Oct 20, 21:06
Just don't play Dumbo and lolarov same time.

Second goal is dumbo fault . Why? Coz he beaten by leao and make de vrij off mark ibra. From the start, de vrij is the guy who usually mark ibra. Dumbo should stop leao with foul.
Lolarov just scapegoated for 2nd goal.

First goal 100 percent lolarov fault .

CafeCordoba
19 Oct 20, 21:22
Just don't play Dumbo and lolarov same time.

Second goal is dumbo fault . Why? Coz he beaten by leao and make de vrij off mark ibra. From the start, de vrij is the guy who usually mark ibra. Dumbo should stop leao with foul.
Lolarov just scapegoated for 2nd goal.

First goal 100 percent lolarov fault .

Tbh, we cannot blame only D'Ambrosio if he loses 1v1 against Leao with shit tons of space behind. We need to blame the team for allowing such situation to even happen. We need to blame Conte for putting D'Ambrosio into a position to fail, when we don't have a system which actively tries to avoid such situations to happen (because we don't have such system or if we have, it isn't working).

Our side CBs are getting to a tough situations since they are not TRUE defenders, and they cannot handle these defending plays as they should, it's not their nature. D'Ambrosio failed covering his own guy but what did you guys expect? Him to beat Leao in such situation? The first mistake was done by Brozovic when he got fooled 100-0 by Saelemaekers in our OFFENSIVE ZONE. That started the counter which resulted D'Ambrosio getting burnt in his flank. De Vrij and Kolarov were there in the box, Kolarov had ALL THE TIME in the world to actually mark Zlatan but he didn't do so. Brozovic didn't tell him that hey btw Zlatan is behind you. On the other hand if Kolarov had taken step further to mark Zlatan, Calhanoglu would have been completely open with his run to the box. Vidal stopped marking him before our box. But of course the biggest threat is always Zlatan and De Vrij showed Kolarov to mark him when De Vrij moved to cover Leao.

Like this was multiple fuck ups happening all around the pitch by different Inter players. Kolarov can be blamed for not defending that area behind him (but like said, had he done that, Calhanoglu would have been totally open in our box).

Provenzano
19 Oct 20, 21:34
Aleksandr Kolarov has now made errors for 5 out of the 8 Serie A goals that Inter have conceded this season.

Il Drago
19 Oct 20, 21:34
Only at Inter do we CREATE problems, to then complain and have to fix it. We literally just paid Godin to go away.....and weeks later, now looking to janaury to "make a CB signing"

:lol::lol::lol::palm:

The craziest thing about Godin is we decided to get rid of him the moment he finally adjusted to a back 3 and he had even become a starter under Conte at the end of the season. It makes zero sense!

n4l
19 Oct 20, 21:47
On the other hand if Kolarov had taken step further to mark Zlatan, Calhanoglu would have been completely open with his run to the box. .

i think this is the first time it's been mentioned but glad you did. LOLarov was caught in no-mans land. If he dropped to mark Zlatan and leao crossed for easy Hakan tap-in, he would get murdered too for marking the far post and not the near post run.

So I don't really blame LOLarov entirely for this one. 2nd goal was system failure. To be accurate, perisic got his cross blocked, twice, by being too indecisive. Because we were on the quick play; vidal -> lukaku -> barella brilliant long ball to lm10 that was barely cleared by kjaer. At that instant, it was perisic going 1v1 on calabria with lm10, kaku, and hakimi. Perfect. BUT, he takes too long to cross and it get's blocked. By that time, now barella, hakimi, lm10, and kaku are IN THE BOX, perisic is retrieving his ball and vidal is at the top of the box. Think about that. 6 of our players in the offensive 3rd with brozo only maybe 5M back from vidal. So 7 players in milan's third. He slows the play down again, second cross gets blocked and our team is totally flat footed. Saelmakers(sp) beating brozo means nothing. But he horizontals to hakan (WIDE OPEN), who then swings it immediately to leao....1v1 against dumbo.

So many flaws with the system:

- When both WBs are up in the opponent 18yd box, then only 1 mid should be right outside the 18yd box. The other 2 should be staggered but behind the play. We have basically 2 mids right outside the box and 1 mid in the box with 2 CFs and a WB.

- You can't press 7 players that high and also leave 30M gap between them and the WCBs. Too risky. If you're pressing that high up, WCBs need to press high up too. Dumbo and LOLarov are really bad at this as their tendency is to retreat and zone immediately. If they were pressed higher (basically in Bbilan's half), then when saelmakers(sp) beats brozo, he'd be tackled right away by LOLarova and cause the turnover.

CafeCordoba
19 Oct 20, 22:07
i think this is the first time it's been mentioned but glad you did. LOLarov was caught in no-mans land. If he dropped to mark Zlatan and leao crossed for easy Hakan tap-in, he would get murdered too for marking the far post and not the near post run.

So I don't really blame LOLarov entirely for this one. 2nd goal was system failure. To be accurate, perisic got his cross blocked, twice, by being too indecisive. Because we were on the quick play; vidal -> lukaku -> barella brilliant long ball to lm10 that was barely cleared by kjaer. At that instant, it was perisic going 1v1 on calabria with lm10, kaku, and hakimi. Perfect. BUT, he takes too long to cross and it get's blocked. By that time, now barella, hakimi, lm10, and kaku are IN THE BOX, perisic is retrieving his ball and vidal is at the top of the box. Think about that. 6 of our players in the offensive 3rd with brozo only maybe 5M back from vidal. So 7 players in milan's third. He slows the play down again, second cross gets blocked and our team is totally flat footed. Saelmakers(sp) beating brozo means nothing. But he horizontals to hakan (WIDE OPEN), who then swings it immediately to leao....1v1 against dumbo.

So many flaws with the system:

- When both WBs are up in the opponent 18yd box, then only 1 mid should be right outside the 18yd box. The other 2 should be staggered but behind the play. We have basically 2 mids right outside the box and 1 mid in the box with 2 CFs and a WB.

- You can't press 7 players that high and also leave 30M gap between them and the WCBs. Too risky. If you're pressing that high up, WCBs need to press high up too. Dumbo and LOLarov are really bad at this as their tendency is to retreat and zone immediately. If they were pressed higher (basically in Bbilan's half), then when saelmakers(sp) beats brozo, he'd be tackled right away by LOLarova and cause the turnover.

Perfect. This is more of the discussion I want to see than blame individual players.

Though I'm saying Brozo sold himself 100% to Saelemaekers and the correct way would have been to just end the fucking play given our player positions at the given time. Foul or just block his movement to the most dangerous direction which was against our goal which was what Brozo failed to do. IMO this is also important what Brozo did or more like what he did not do. It's part of the system. Or should be, that our players recognize the danger and just foul or simply stop danger from growing.

But that is even greater point that our unit isn't in sync. Gaps are too wide and midfielders pushing to the box is a horrible tactic if one bhenchod then goes and loses the ball like that. We need to play faster to create the chances if the mids push there hard or then we need to be more reserved. There's absolutely no balance and IMO this is an issue already from last season. Nothing has been fixed.

n4l
19 Oct 20, 22:17
I think the players really did not recognize the situation....otherwise, barella wouldn't barge into the box and broz-vidal wouldn't have pushed so high to begin with. If you look at that phase of the play, Hakimi was waaaay out of position too (near to fricking lautaro in the box..left side....lukaku was the most "right" player at the far post).

So i think overall, positional awareness and discipline was really poor on the goal.

DARi0
19 Oct 20, 23:12
Can someone remind me again why Godin was sent away and replaced by Kolorov ?
They said salary to make room for Vidal.


I never read that from Godin! You got an article or something?
Sure m8

Kolarov is at the center of strong criticism after his two disappointing performances against Fiorentina and especially versus Milan. In those two matches, Inter showed great defensive fragibility and liability by starting the Serbian on the left side of the back three. And so, naturally, the fans are wondering why Inter let go of Godin and replaced him with the former Roma defender. What was the real reason for Conte to make this decision?

The Gazzetta dello Sport explains, “Inter didn’t simply replace Godin with Kolarov because Conte wanted to change the characteristics of one of his defenders. Conte rejected the Uruguayan: he came to raise the level of the team especially in important matches and to give the Inter defense additional depth at international level. But the coach was never really satisfied with Godin’s performances and preferred to make the change. Something similar happened at Juventus when Conte wanted Lucio in 2012 but he then quickly terminated his contract due to issue with the club. Godin obviously did much better than Luciobut not to the point of convincing Inter to keep him.

Kolarov was signed in order to improve building up plays from behind, not to improve the defense. His limitations are known and Conte doesn’t think that Kolarov is the starter in that role anyway. The emergency in defense forced him to play with bad results against Fiorentina and Milan but the Serbian is also paying the price of having Perisic playing in front of him.

A better choice would have been a more defensive-minded wingback to help Kolarov out in managing opposition’s attacking force. Conte still has not had full team at his disposal given the lack of cohesion. With time, everyone will benefit including Kolarov who will only remain a backup player in the defense.”

thatdude
20 Oct 20, 00:28
I think the players really did not recognize the situation....otherwise, barella wouldn't barge into the box and broz-vidal wouldn't have pushed so high to begin with. If you look at that phase of the play, Hakimi was waaaay out of position too (near to fricking lautaro in the box..left side....lukaku was the most "right" player at the far post).

So i think overall, positional awareness and discipline was really poor on the goal.

This is all a byproduct of frantic urgency because we wanted to reply to Milan’s goal. Derby adrenaline kicked in. Conte has talked about this issue previously after the Benevento game I believe. It’s not the first time we leave ourselves open to the counter due to a turnover in the final third that leads to one pass taking out 2/3rds of our team. Atalanta play with this risk too but their players have a bit more...conviction.

It’s the double edged sword of the formation. Having a wingback, 2 forwards, an AM, and another wingback all engaged in the attack can lead to some exciting opportunities. If you’re decisive and take advantage. However if the move breaks down at the wrong time like it did with Perisic it’s a problem. This is where Atalanta is better then us (usually, not against Napoli) when the move breaks down they press quickly as a team and typically win the ball back in the opponents half. Like N4L said, our players immediately tried to protect the space in behind. It’s not their fault because that’s how you’re taught to defend from the time you’re young. However, if you remember Sarri spoke about this a lot when he took over Chelsea/Juve, he called it defending on the front foot. According to him it sounds paradoxical at first but his teams were always amongst the lowest in goals conceded.

NimAraya
20 Oct 20, 01:51
Kolarov was signed in order to improve building up plays from behind, not to improve the defense. [B]

What a stupid reason if true. What's the point of improving building up play from behind when you're shit at defending?

magnesium
20 Oct 20, 04:13
The craziest thing about Godin is we decided to get rid of him the moment he finally adjusted to a back 3 and he had even become a starter under Conte at the end of the season. It makes zero sense!

I got feeling Lolarov will be Godin 2.0.
Shit at first half season, and beast at second half season. After that we will throw him to Cagliari.

The different is Godin from CB to RCB, Lolarov from LB to LCB.

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 06:25
It was probably just to dump his salary and cut the costs (as there was still one year left of Godin's massive salary). It was required to make room for Vidal. So that was a two-year plan with that swap.

But Kolarov doesn't help us financially hardly at all this year. He costs almost 7m€ for the club, Godin would have cost like 10m€. Add to the current case (paying to have Kolarov) the costs of the golden handshake paid to Godin and we're talking about maybe 1-2m€ difference in annual cost for this year.

It's a MASSIVE fucking downgrade in defensive ability. The tradeoff is the better ability to start plays from the back. So far the numbers don't look good since Kolarov hasn't provided THAT much added control and key passes compared to the pure mistakes which have led to opponents scoring goals.

Godin is also a highly respectable player in international football. Him and Sanchez are probably our best known players in the world, with maybe Vidal following. The players we have recognize that and they show them a lot of respect in the locker room and for that, they have influence. Sanchez is not a leader type in the sense the other two guys are.
Kolarov on the other hand is just a guy who is perceived to have had a good enough career and he's a Serb in a locker room that has influential Croatian players + Handanovic. It won't be easy for him to become a locker room presence from the get go, if at all. If he tries to, he may clash with the existing hierarchy. Or he could pull it off, who knows. But he's not a step through the door leader.

The move to get rid of Godin has "locker room clearance" written all over it. Imagine you are Godin and you talk with other players about your playing time, then you have Eriksen saying the same, Sanchez perhaps feeling similar. It's bound to lead to a locker room disaster after a few bad results.

Now the leaders in the locker room are Handanovic and one of the Croatians I suppose, with Vidal probably setting himself up for a leading role. If the teacher's pet is the locker room leader, the teacher has no worries. Radja who could also have such a role seems as complacent as Eriksen to play for this coach's team.

There is no financial reason to get rid of Godin, so stop digging into the economics of it. Conte did not like his presence, on and off the pitch.

Pajo
20 Oct 20, 08:46
Is anyone really surprised by this? I said it when we were first linked to him, he will be mediocre LWB (no lungs, no pace), and crappiest crap LCB. He cannot play there, always was poor defender, and yet, he plays as LCB.

Harpsabu
20 Oct 20, 12:41
Godin is also a highly respectable player in international football. Him and Sanchez are probably our best known players in the world, with maybe Vidal following. The players we have recognize that and they show them a lot of respect in the locker room and for that, they have influence. Sanchez is not a leader type in the sense the other two guys are.
Kolarov on the other hand is just a guy who is perceived to have had a good enough career and he's a Serb in a locker room that has influential Croatian players + Handanovic. It won't be easy for him to become a locker room presence from the get go, if at all. If he tries to, he may clash with the existing hierarchy. Or he could pull it off, who knows. But he's not a step through the door leader.

The move to get rid of Godin has "locker room clearance" written all over it. Imagine you are Godin and you talk with other players about your playing time, then you have Eriksen saying the same, Sanchez perhaps feeling similar. It's bound to lead to a locker room disaster after a few bad results.

Now the leaders in the locker room are Handanovic and one of the Croatians I suppose, with Vidal probably setting himself up for a leading role. If the teacher's pet is the locker room leader, the teacher has no worries. Radja who could also have such a role seems as complacent as Eriksen to play for this coach's team.

There is no financial reason to get rid of Godin, so stop digging into the economics of it. Conte did not like his presence, on and off the pitch.

This is all speculation

.h.
20 Oct 20, 13:02
saving at least 5mil this year in costs alone on godin - and we're looking set to lose in excess of £100m last season and its very plausible this season would be more than that (like-for-like) given we're likely to lpay at least half, if not more, of a season without a crowd. CL matches bring in big money, and we'll miss at least 3 home matches without any major crowd. Already had the Milan derby which cost us another 4-5m as well.


The financial side is pretty obvious.

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 13:25
This is all speculation

My "speculations" tend to be confirmed significantly more often than not, maybe you need to start paying attention to that rather than bandwagoning with a couple of irritating members who have nothing better to do than chase me around.

You can just scroll up a bit and see that Dario posted GdS' comments on the Kolarov-Godin situation. They are also "speculating" of course, since it's not your uninformed opinion everything else is speculation until you finally accept facts as facts.


Or better yet, do provide with a solid argument as to why it's wrong or off.

What is the financial incentive of getting rid of Godin? Do you know how much money we "saved" by shipping him to Cagliari? Do you know how much we are still paying him to not be at Inter?
Do you know what the cost of bringing Kolarov is? Can you sum up the difference? When you do, does it seem like we're saving money or clearing a roster spot? It's not a trick question, it's just a very easy one.

.h.
20 Oct 20, 13:28
Godin signed a 3 year contract. Over the lifetime of that contract we've probably saved about 15mil. Offsetting against a one year deal for Kolarov right now we probably saved about 9 mil. I think godin wouldn't be eligible for growth decree next year - if so thats another 3-4m in salary costs.

Harpsabu
20 Oct 20, 13:33
My "speculations" tend to be confirmed significantly more often than not, maybe you need to start paying attention to that rather than bandwagoning with a couple of irritating members who have nothing better to do than chase me around.

You can just scroll up a bit and see that Dario posted GdS' comments on the Kolarov-Godin situation. They are also "speculating" of course, since it's not your uninformed opinion everything else is speculation until you finally accept facts as facts.


Or better yet, do provide with a solid argument as to why it's wrong or off.

What is the financial incentive of getting rid of Godin? Do you know how much money we "saved" by shipping him to Cagliari? Do you know how much we are still paying him to not be at Inter?
Do you know what the cost of bringing Kolarov is? Can you sum up the difference? When you do, does it seem like we're saving money or clearing a roster spot? It's not a trick question, it's just a very easy one.

So you admit it's speculation, then say your speculation is sometimes confirmed...


Dude all I'm reading is that first two lines. You said yourself it's speculation. How am I bandwagoning when you admit it's speculation?

And its not chasing you around, it's calling you out for speculation which again you've admitted it is. It's not some agenda against you

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 13:34
So you admit it's speculation, then say your speculation is sometimes confirmed...


Dude all I'm reading is that first two lines. You said yourself it's speculation. How am I bandwagon img when you admit it's speculation?

You have trouble reading.

Harpsabu
20 Oct 20, 13:42
You have trouble reading.

I told you I'm only ready the first few lines. Darios article mentions conte unhappy with his performances and you are speculating that it's his dressing room presence etc conte wanted rid of, which is complete speculation.

Also, you made the claim, it's up to you to prove it.

If it comes out in the future fine, but as of now absolutely nothing points to what you're saying. Nothing.

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 13:44
Godin signed a 3 year contract. Over the lifetime of that contract we've probably saved about 15mil. Offsetting against a one year deal for Kolarov right now we probably saved about 9 mil. I think godin wouldn't be eligible for growth decree next year - if so thats another 3-4m in salary costs.

We are not saving almost anything from Godin's salary apart from the difference that Cagliari is paying him. You know what Cagliari is paying him? Three million euros net.... He was getting paid 7m at Inter.

So you're telling me that you believe he left over 5m off the table to downgrade from Inter to Cagliari? :lol:

We are compensating Godin for the difference in salary. Whether it's full or almost full is not the point as it is semantics. The fact is that Godin has not simply moved to Cagliari to make us afford a move, his transaction is still costing us roughly 5m this season and even more the next year as his Inter contract was expiring in June 2022 and we still paid for 3 more months this season (he left in late September).

We did a similar thing with Miranda with the key difference being that we only assumed a 3.5m capital loss and Jiangsu Suning assumed his entire salary. With Godin the capital loss is minimal, yet we are still paying a lot of money as his new team cannot afford his salary. This is the standard practice and the reason why coaches rarely take jobs with less money than their guaranteed deals. Teams rarely accept these settlements between coaches but with players they are prevalent.


Now, redoing the math. We are 'saving' 8m to not have Godin on our squad and the cost of having Kolarov over is costing us roughly the same amount. There is no financial incentive in cutting Godin from the team. It only creates a roster spot, that Conte happily gives to Aleksandar Kolarov.

Adriano@10
20 Oct 20, 14:41
Godin signed a 3 year contract. Over the lifetime of that contract we've probably saved about 15mil. Offsetting against a one year deal for Kolarov right now we probably saved about 9 mil. I think godin wouldn't be eligible for growth decree next year - if so thats another 3-4m in salary costs.

Have we? Is it realistic to assume that we did not pay Godin a significant sign on bonus? Also dont forget that we got darmian to would we have gotten him if godin stayed?
Also kolarov is on a 3 mio salary plus we paid 1.5 mio in transfer fee, how exactly do you get to 9 mios in savings or 15 for that matter? Also Kolarov is on 1+1 and to assume that we wont need to replace kolarov next year if he leaves seems naive...
Considering that Godin came under the new tax law for foreigners how do you get to your numbers? Lest assume the numbers are with taxes included we d save around 1.5 mio assuming we re not paying any of godins salary at cagliari was that really worth the step down in quality? If they are without taxes Kolarov makes 6 and godin 12 we d be saving 4.5 but thats obviously wrong since godin came from spain and hence will enjoy prefered tax treatment and again thats assuming we re not paying/paid anything to godin to leave. ( assumption kolarov on 3 and godin on 6 which is what most searches gave me)

So in an unrealistic absolute best case scenario we save 4.5 mio to downgrade from godin to freaking Kolarov who ever thinks that fair for the step down in quality needs his head checked.
Just dont sign fucken darmian money saved without a big step down in quality or force out Radja who our coach has not in his plans anyways. But nooo we (conte) fucken forces out the usefull one, heck i like eriksen but if we re that desperate for money get rid of him coach wont play him anyways....

What makes this even more of a farce is that after this deal we still tried to rid our selfes of skriniar.........
Gonna remind you people of the magical 4.5 mio we might have saved if we miss an important objective by one or two points then lets see how good you feel about this deal.

To me no matter how you turn it the savings are not worth the step down in quality and chances are we d have 3 points and a derby victory more if godin was still here instead of Kolarov....

If only conte was not such an inflexible cunt who loves his mediocre players so much, I have to give it to him though he usually gets them working quite well for like a season or 1.5.

.h.
20 Oct 20, 14:47
A lot of questions there, but basically:

Godin is on tax law - so 7m net is about 10-11m a year gross. From what I thought I'd read, we were paying him like 2m euros this season to offset salary loss for this year, and he (I THINK) wouldnt fall under tax law next year, so we're saving 14m next year and maybe 1-3m this year. If we do bring back Vanheusden, that's a transaction we were likely to make irrespective of Kolarov/Godin tbh, but starting to look at the 'network' ends up ebing a disaster tbh.





My point is pretty simple - we're likely to lose >100m this season, saving even 5-10mil here and there makes a big difference to us right now. It sucks, but its the truth of the scenario.


It's hard to speculate about the Milan derby. I'm not defending Kolarov by any stretch of the imagination - but dont forget Godin would have been in the Inter bubble and like half of our players in the bubble caught COVID, so whose to say what would have happened? speculation doesnt really help that much, tbh. The real problem was that Bastoni caught COVID, IMHO. We would have been fine with Bastoni. And yeah, we should haev had a proper LCB backup as well, but Godin was like our 4th? highest earner on the team, he wasnt erally good valuye for money against that tbh.

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 14:50
but dont forget Godin would have been in the Inter bubble and like half of our players in the bubble caught COVID,

Unless our squad took a trip to Uruguay and Ecuador, that's definitely not true.

.h.
20 Oct 20, 15:09
thought for some reason he was retired internationally. doesnt matter much either way, as I said, speculating like that can go down a comlpete rabbit hole.

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 15:19
thought for some reason he was retired internationally. doesnt matter much either way, as I said, speculating like that can go down a comlpete rabbit hole.

There's no rabbit hole deep enough that would give sense to replacing Godin with Kolarov (and/or Darmian, if you're very strict about it)

.h.
20 Oct 20, 15:26
I definitely object to Kolarov being a Godin replacement, but I dont disagree with the idea of getting rid of Godin. It'd have been nice to have kept him, but given our financial situation atm...

brehme1989
20 Oct 20, 15:28
I definitely object to Kolarov being a Godin replacement, but I dont disagree with the idea of getting rid of Godin. It'd have been nice to have kept him, but given our financial situation atm...

And once again, this was a sporting decision, not a financial decision. The numbers do not add up to even make this claim.

.h.
20 Oct 20, 15:37
deus ex brehme.

Adriano@10
20 Oct 20, 15:43
A lot of questions there, but basically:

Godin is on tax law - so 7m net is about 10-11m a year gross. From what I thought I'd read, we were paying him like 2m euros this season to offset salary loss for this year, and he (I THINK) wouldnt fall under tax law next year, so we're saving 14m next year and maybe 1-3m this year. If we do bring back Vanheusden, that's a transaction we were likely to make irrespective of Kolarov/Godin tbh, but starting to look at the 'network' ends up ebing a disaster tbh.





My point is pretty simple - we're likely to lose >100m this season, saving even 5-10mil here and there makes a big difference to us right now. It sucks, but its the truth of the scenario.


It's hard to speculate about the Milan derby. I'm not defending Kolarov by any stretch of the imagination - but dont forget Godin would have been in the Inter bubble and like half of our players in the bubble caught COVID, so whose to say what would have happened? speculation doesnt really help that much, tbh. The real problem was that Bastoni caught COVID, IMHO. We would have been fine with Bastoni. And yeah, we should haev had a proper LCB backup as well, but Godin was like our 4th? highest earner on the team, he wasnt erally good valuye for money against that tbh.
Fair enough i do think though that godin was closer to 5/6 mio rather than 7 took it from here: http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?5577-Players-amp-Coaches-Contracts

Kolarov is on 3 but his taxes will be more expensive so we saved 5/6 mio to then pay 2 to godin and 3 to Kolarov so we spent 5. So our pre tax expenses are the same which means for this year all we save is the tax difference of taxing 5 mio at the lower rate vs 3 mio at the higher rate. No idea to what that works out but again i m sure it s not worth the step down in quality and does not make a significant difference in our finances.

Also pretty sure we could have gotten a similar deal for godin next year yes he l be one year older but he ll still be more than good enough for cagliari and might have been more willing to move there after getting paid for another year.

Fully agree on the derby will never know but my point was more that kolarov already made a lot of mistakes and we were in trouble cause of him on multiple occasions over the course of a season this will be reflected in the points we collect.

Also a fuck up in a cl knockout game by kolarov like he did in the derby will cost us more money than we save from getting rid of Godin.

Ffi201zi002tlis
20 Oct 20, 15:45
I got feeling Lolarov will be Godin 2.0.
Shit at first half season, and beast at second half season. After that we will throw him to Cagliari.

The different is Godin from CB to RCB, Lolarov from LB to LCB.
more like Silvestre 2.0 --> shit for the entire season

.h.
20 Oct 20, 15:56
Fair enough i do think though that godin was closer to 5/6 mio rather than 7 took it from here: http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?5577-Players-amp-Coaches-Contracts

Kolarov is on 3 but his taxes will be more expensive so we saved 5/6 mio to then pay 2 to godin and 3 to Kolarov so we spent 5. So our pre tax expenses are the same which means for this year all we save is the tax difference of taxing 5 mio at the lower rate vs 3 mio at the higher rate. No idea to what that works out but again i m sure it s not worth the step down in quality and does not make a significant difference in our finances.

Also pretty sure we could have gotten a similar deal for godin next year yes he l be one year older but he ll still be more than good enough for cagliari and might have been more willing to move there after getting paid for another year.

Fully agree on the derby will never know but my point was more that kolarov already made a lot of mistakes and we were in trouble cause of him on multiple occasions over the course of a season this will be reflected in the points we collect.

Also a fuck up in a cl knockout game by kolarov like he did in the derby will cost us more money than we save from getting rid of Godin.

aye i dont disagree, but we should separate the things out. There are two transactions - selling Godin, and getting Kolarov. I dont think many people here have real beef with selling Godin, its signing Kolarov that people arent happy with

Adriano@10
20 Oct 20, 16:07
aye i dont disagree, but we should separate the things out. There are two transactions - selling Godin, and getting Kolarov. I dont think many people here have real beef with selling Godin, its signing Kolarov that people arent happy with
Agreed but it s a bit of both for me, if we would have saved significant amounts of money i d get it, but we did not.
Also not sure we can seperate the transactions and if we do so would it not make the kolarov deal even worse? If kolarov is not here cause we had to get rid of Godin and needed to make up the numbers why the fuck is he here? Especially if we knew Darmian was coming to?

Only way Kolarov makes sense is if he s a cheap Godin replacement as you said we had to get rid of godin for monetary reasons and just needed a cheap gap filler i d get why we d get Kolarov for that, but in this case imho we simply dont save enough money for the step down in quality we make.

Like looking at Kolarov as a stand alone transfer how does it make sense that we went for him? Especially considering godin was still here when we got him....
If you add to the fact that in darmian and dumbro we already have two (former) FBs that can play RCB and LCB in a 3 man defense it just makes 0 sense to me. Yes neither of them is as good with the ball as kolarov.