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Ilkinio
12 Jun 08, 13:09
which doubled overnight against russia

Russian defense sucked.. So, it's not the case.. ;)

cloudq
12 Jun 08, 13:30
still takes composure and patience to score those goals (except the first one)

Pravesh
14 Jun 08, 17:51
Seems to have got injured yet again and I hope it's not continue once our season starts coz he would be very important for the Mourinho era without a doubt. Lets hope that his injury is not a serious one.

lonewolf19
14 Jun 08, 17:55
Seems to have got injured yet again and I hope it's not continue once our season starts coz he would be very important for the Mourinho era without a doubt. Lets hope that his injury is not a serious one.

yea recurring injury again it seems. we definitely need a healthy Ibra next season. He was playing quite good for the first half.

rockball
14 Jun 08, 18:27
How was his goal today? Missed it and really disappointed Spain won :stuckup:

Ilkinio
14 Jun 08, 18:36
How was his goal today? Missed it and really disappointed Spain won :stuckup:

Long ball, he took it with legs, tried cutmeg, then made Ramos fall and scored.

CafeCordoba
14 Jun 08, 20:54
Sweden's offence = Zlatan. Without him, they're just crap. Too bad Zlatan's knee isn't at proper condition, Sweden could have make it semis with some luck. Now they don't have a chance. Interesting to see if Zlatan will play against Russia. We should hope Lagerback doesn't force Zlatan to play too much, worst nightmare would be a big knee operation for Zlatan.

Forza ragazzi
14 Jun 08, 21:48
I think it's more likely that he was rested to be better vs Russia. That is Sweden's decisive showdown. I hated that Spain scored. 2min in injury time. But I think Sweden will fix it. And don't judge their attack based on this game. Spain is a very good team and they have much possession. It was a natural consequence of Spain's attacking second half that Sweden didn't have too many attacks. Anyway, like for Inter, Ibra is important for Sweden. You can't avoid dropping in quality when a player like Ibra is injuried or off-form.

alvaro
14 Jun 08, 22:09
Zlatan:

"The pain started to feel after 5-10 minutes, after that it only got worse. I had a discussion with the coach at halftime and we came to an agreement to spare myself for the Russia game. It's better that a fresh player came in for me. I hope the knee gets better in the coming days and that I'll be fit to play against Russia."

http://www.fotbollsexpressen.se/FotbollsExpressen/1.1198992/zlatan-jag-hoppas-kunna-spela-mot-ryssland

Doctor:

"The injury can always get worse. He's afraid that he might suffer a big setback. Thats why he is a bit careful. It wasn't me who stopped Zlatan from continuing the game. It's mainly his own choice. I don't think there's a big danger of getting it worse. I think he will play on Wednesday."

Forza ragazzi
14 Jun 08, 22:27
I hope he can get enough rest before the next season. His knee is clearly signalling it has been rested too little after the OP. He was more or less rushed back for Parma and then it was off to preparations for Euros straight away.

mexican_azzurri
14 Jun 08, 22:38
I hope that ibra dont finish with his knee "dead" and start the next season slowwwwww....is important his health for him and for Inter.

Puma
15 Jun 08, 01:06
In my opinion, Ibrahimovic should have surgery as soon as possible. Lets be honest here, nursing him through the season and only playing him in certain matches and limiting his minutes is not going to help Inter's cause. We need our leading striker to be fit, available and ready to contribute throughout the season.

It is my understanding that the only reason he did not undergo surgery is because of the Euros and the fact that he would miss the tournament. I think the matter needs to be dealt with as soon as possible because only having a half-fit player is not going to help our cause. Dejan Stankovic is a good case in point and I am also hoping Stankovic had surgery on his heel to manage the injury he endured throughout the season.

Handoyo
15 Jun 08, 04:08
George, he had his surgery; and I don't think he needs one. I'm no doctor but what he needs more than anything right now is a rest. I think we'll be fine though. If he needs more rest before the start of next season, we can leave him in Italy when the squad travels halfway around the world to play the SuperCoppa in the US.

mexican_azzurri
15 Jun 08, 05:36
He had a surgery but in the most part of the cases isnt a "total" surgery is just a little that help to the player to resist some matches and later get the "all" surgery and take a long rest.

rockball
15 Jun 08, 08:19
I too think that his surgery was just a patch up for the Euro. If he gets it properly done end of June, he would have about 2 months of rest for the next season.

tonyloo
15 Jun 08, 10:05
Surgery is the last thing he wants. There are different injurys you know.

Marcello
16 Jun 08, 02:15
sore an interview after the spain game he saidAfter 5-10 mins his knee was irritating him so he told the coach and they decided that best he sit out and play in the russia game

A.l.i
17 Jun 08, 10:30
I find it fucking ridiculous that whenever I tune in to watch Ibra for Sweden. The match commentator is always bound to say this:

"Zlatan Ibrahimovic has got the talent, but he's moody at times. You just don't know if he'll gel into the game or not?"

Fucking english retards. I just loved it when he scored that scorcher against Greece.

at Fucking:
Looks like the forum isn't censored anymore??

rockball
17 Jun 08, 12:40
Yes...the f-word has been used quite often now.

Azzkikr
17 Jun 08, 15:30
I read an article with an interview of the swedish knee-specialist in charge of Zlatan's rehabilitation.

Apparently, if the report is true. Which it seemed to be. The rehabilitation time for the surgery that Ibra would have to undergo is 9-12 months. So I guess that surgery will be avoided at all costs. And according to the same specialist the probability of returning to full fitness after the surgery was only 60 %

:mute: Doesnt sound good, so its either rehab and never be able to be 100% or have surgery and be out for a year and then he still might not be 100% again either.

J zanetti
17 Jun 08, 16:21
I think this (http://www.na.se/artikel.asp?intid=1346967) is the article he was referring to!

This guy (knee specialist) also says that in such circumstances they will try all other methods before going for surgery as it's a pretty risky one and not something they rwould recommend before trying everything else.

This isn’t looking good – what a shame to lose him this way! :(:(

snake
18 Jun 08, 00:13
I dont believe those so called reports to much.

Remember the doctors who said Cannavaro's career was over as he was in operable?

Didnt he end up skipping the operation all together and returned perfectly fine?

achilles
18 Jun 08, 20:20
Yeah, they are always dissing Zlatan. Like he is somehow unproven in their eyes. Ridiculous. They called him a "languid figure" in one match I watched! Polite way to call him lazy! I mean, he is not frickin Alan Smith (in terms of hyperness off the ball), granted, but he is a hell of a player.

I hope he gets some rest after today. Looks like Sweden's tournament is over. He can probably get a good 6 weeks of rest in, if he doesn't join the squad right away in mid July.

CafeCordoba
18 Jun 08, 20:56
Okay, Zlatan got out of the Euros. Good. Now he can have his resting time.

lonewolf19
19 Jun 08, 01:13
Have a nice summer and return healthly please

minterke
19 Jun 08, 02:01
Zlatan is a hell of a player but to deny that he's lazy is stupid. He is lazy and sometimes looks like he doesn't even care...but then he can suprise you out of nowhere.

Weird player.

Luka
19 Jun 08, 02:26
He looked today lazy, because of his physical condition. It's not how Zlatan looks when he is fully fit. And even then sure, he isn't running like crazy, but how many strikers does ?

Jonnie_Venom89
19 Jun 08, 06:35
It's good for us that Sweden is out. Sweden team was old and there was no support for Ibra ,the attacks were not very well coordonated so ..... anyway hope he now gets the rest he needs to come back in full strenght for next season

rockball
19 Jun 08, 14:31
Sweden was very poor. Ibra was the only one pulling them.

minterke
19 Jun 08, 15:23
He looked today lazy, because of his physical condition. It's not how Zlatan looks when he is fully fit. And even then sure, he isn't running like crazy, but how many strikers does ?

I wasn't talking about today, I know he was injured. I was taking about 95% of the time that he plays.

Luka
19 Jun 08, 15:56
Well, usually strikers are lazy, and players who are very offensive, like C.Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo etc...

It's just the part of their characteristics. You can't have everything ;)

Ronney, Tevez type of strikers, are not so often present.

minterke
19 Jun 08, 19:46
erm...no.

Tevez and Rooney run around put pressure, come back and defend. Zlatan walks around like he's shopping for wallpaper with his wife at Home Hardware.

But anyways...let's hope that knee gets better.

Khaled
19 Jun 08, 20:17
If he had to have surgery and it would mean he would be out for a while i wouldnt mind...health comes first but it depends if this operation will heal anthing or not...its his choice really..nobody can do anything about it.

Azzkikr
19 Jun 08, 20:23
Zlatan had nothing to work with, the rest of the swedish team ran around confused.

He was the only player who actually played ok on the swedish team.

Luka
19 Jun 08, 21:22
erm...no.

Tevez and Rooney run around put pressure, come back and defend. Zlatan walks around like he's shopping for wallpaper with his wife at Home Hardware.

Yes. Exactly what I've said. That Tevez and Rooney type of players are not so often to be seen, and they are exceptions. Most of the strikers/forwards/offensive wingers are more or less lazy. Agreed ?


Zlatan had nothing to work with, the rest of the swedish team ran around confused.

He was the only player who actually played ok on the swedish team.
Wow. Put there "Inter" instead of "swedish" and you get all what I've been saying when deffending Ibra from Azz attacks this year :P

So what do you think Azz. It's alright moment to sell him? I mean, I don't want our team to be build around him. I agree with you, now.

Azzkikr
19 Jun 08, 21:31
Defending?

Ive always said that zlatan was the only spark we had in the team this year, i said that from the first Serie A game. But i also said that he isnt good or consistent enough to carry the team on his own the entire season, which is true as well, especially in late r stages in europe one class player isnt enough. And zlatan takes up too much space in the team, the team has to be build around him or he is useless.

I dont want the team to be build around him, i still stick to that, and now that he looks more or less seriously injured that opinion wont change. Id offload him for the right price without thinking twice, he wont be the same without surgery, and that means a long break and it might not make him 100%...

Luka
20 Jun 08, 07:18
Defending?

Ive always said that zlatan was the only spark we had in the team this year, i said that from the first Serie A game.


Yeah. Like here:

"Stop sucking that overrated players dick, we should sell him"

or here

"You do nothing but praise Zlatan despite him playing like crap and throw hissy fits at everyone who critisizes him."

or here

"I wouldnt think twice about selling him for a good offer. He is not likely to gain more value than he currently has and he isnt getting any better anyways. Hugely overrated player that takes up way to much space and time on the ball compared to how much he actually contributes in the games."

Hmmm, I wonder why you didn't say that after Parma game... :)



But i also said that he isnt good or consistent enough to carry the team on his own the entire season, which is true as well, especially in late r stages in europe one class player isnt enough. And zlatan takes up too much space in the team, the team has to be build around him or he is useless.

Yeah, I think by this time we all know that the reasons for you wanting him gone, is so that you want to level to the mediocre level. Instead of getting some class players, who can combine with Ibra, and take some of the responisbility from his shoulders, it's better to just fire his ass, and take out the source to the problem in one clean shoot :P

What a way to become a great team ! :)

Azzkikr
20 Jun 08, 12:26
I still believe that, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he has been the only spark this Inter team has had.

Zlatan takes up to much space in a team, you can buy 10 other worldclass players and play them with him and he will still have to be the center of attention in every game, and when he plays poorly he will drag the team down regardless how good they are because he will always be the center of attention... He is not a team player, he IS the team when he is on the pitch, and thats not good.

He is truely one of a kind, there is simply no other player in the world who has such a big impact on a teams performance in bad and good ways.

Luka
20 Jun 08, 12:47
Zlatan takes up to much space in a team, you can buy 10 other worldclass players and play them with him and he will still have to be the center of attention in every game[...]
Mind explaining us why is that ?

I can't comprehend that. I guess Pele and Maradona are also bad for their national and club teams, because they took all the action, and they had to much space, and the team was very affected in how they perform. I mean that has to be some kind of a new 11th main sin. "Being too good for a team, thus this team is too dependable on how the best player will perform".

I wonder why Milan didn't sell Kaka and Pirlo yet? We all know, that without those two Milan side is crap, and plays nothing.

Azzkikr
20 Jun 08, 12:54
Its for the same reason he was benched at Juve in his second season, when he started to suck he dragged their team down with him.

Thats the problem with Zlatan, he doesnt fade from a game when he plays poorly, he still takes a huge part in the play, but because it doesnt work for him he pulls the team down.

Really a unique player, when he plays well he is a great asset but when not he will actually pull the team further down compared to a player that just fades out when having a bad day.

He simply takes up too much space in the play, he is and wants to be too big of a factor in the games regardless how the plays.

I wish he would just fade out, thats would be way better.

Adam
20 Jun 08, 13:05
I still believe that, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he has been the only spark this Inter team has had.

Zlatan takes up to much space in a team, you can buy 10 other worldclass players and play them with him and he will still have to be the center of attention in every game, and when he plays poorly he will drag the team down regardless how good they are because he will always be the center of attention... He is not a team player, he IS the team when he is on the pitch, and thats not good.

He has to be the center of attention regardless of how many World class players he has around him?:rolleyes: Wtf do you base that on? Do you honestly even know, or is it just an impulse you decided to run with? It would be nice if you for once explained your statements. And FYI players can't get bigger than the team unless the team allows it. Fact of the matter is he's a reference point in the team and therefore they try to find him with a lot of passes, especially when we're struggling. That has nothing to do with his supposed need to be the center of attention.


He is truely one of a kind, there is simply no other player in the world who has such a big impact on a teams performance in bad and good ways.


Exactly, which is why he's one of the best players in the World. The difference in Inter is that when he has a bad match there's no one to cover for him and share some of the burden, except for maybe Maicon, while the likes of Kaka, Ronaldo etc have teammates who step up when they have poor games.



Its for the same reason he was benched at Juve in his second season, when he started to suck he dragged their team down with him.

Thats the problem with Zlatan, he doesnt fade from a game when he plays poorly, he still takes a huge part in the play, but because it doesnt work for him he pulls the team down.

Really a unique player, when he plays well he is a great asset but when not he will actually pull the team further down compared to a player that just fades out when having a bad day.

He simply takes up too much space in the play, he is and wants to be too big of a factor in the games regardless how the plays.

I wish he would just fade out, thats would be way

Please, Zlatan was benched for one match at Juventus, then he was back in the starting lineup. The reason for that being that without Zlatan Capello couldn't play his tactics because he didn't have anyone who could hold up the ball, pass it forward and so on.

Fact is the thing you mention as a "problem" is one of his greatest assets. He can play poor for a half and then decide it by himself in the last five minutes, and in between he's still usefull to the team and creates lots of space. You don't have a fckin clue, you really don't. Why do I waste my time...

Forza ragazzi
20 Jun 08, 16:16
Ibra played 35 league matches in 2005/2006, his last year at juBe. He missed three matches, so he wasn't really "benched". He started 29 and was subbed on six times. He played 2402 minutes, with only Nedved, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Vieira and Emerson playing more. He played more minutes than Trezeguet (32 games) and almost 700 more than Del Piero (33 games).

nutcracker
20 Jun 08, 17:25
He simply takes up too much space in the play, he is and wants to be too big of a factor in the games regardless how the plays.

I wish he would just fade out, thats would be way better.


Yes, and instead of having a few good matches and few bad ones, we will have only bad matches. Great thinking :star:

If a team depends too much on a performance of 1 player, then we should buy him 1 or 2 other players who could take a pressure of him, not sell him. When you have a player that can affect game in a big level, then you should buy another good one to make them both have bigger influence on the game. Selling him is definitely wrong way, coz you won't have any influence on the game at all.
Whats the way of your thinking? huh?

Joss
20 Jun 08, 18:44
I still believe that, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he has been the only spark this Inter team has had.

Zlatan takes up to much space in a team, you can buy 10 other worldclass players and play them with him and he will still have to be the center of attention in every game, and when he plays poorly he will drag the team down regardless how good they are because he will always be the center of attention... He is not a team player, he IS the team when he is on the pitch, and thats not good.

He is truely one of a kind, there is simply no other player in the world who has such a big impact on a teams performance in bad and good ways.

At his last season at Juventus he had a horrible scoring record but never brought the team down.

At Inter, Ibrahimovic may be the only focal point offensively but at Juventus he easily meshed with Nedved, Camorensi(who had the season of his life), del piero(occasionaly), and sometimes mutu.

So even when hes out of form he was still an important player and didnt bring down his team which had fellow star players playing alongside him.

At Inter he has been the only focal point in attack but that doesnt mean he can mesh with other star players. He did it at Juve despite having a bad season.

Handoyo
21 Jun 08, 14:27
Ibra played 35 league matches in 2005/2006, his last year at juBe. He missed three matches, so he wasn't really "benched". He started 29 and was subbed on six times. He played 2402 minutes, with only Nedved, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Vieira and Emerson playing more. He played more minutes than Trezeguet (32 games) and almost 700 more than Del Piero (33 games).
Hahaha.

Exactly, very funny how he pulled that "benched in his 2nd season in Juve" bullshit out of nowhere. :lol:

Luka
21 Jun 08, 16:25
That's our life here on message board guys.

The facts come out, and you see what... ?

Silence... :)

There are tons of statements like that, but it's just too hard(and time taking) to find numbers to proove them wrong.

A.l.i
21 Jun 08, 18:31
Guys, you really bitched Azz this time.

A question for Azz ONLY:

"Is Zlatan world class?"

alvaro
29 Jun 08, 11:26
Zlatan interview posted in XT, good stuff.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFZvbmn7OYc
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=352zsJ1yEH0
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ktOfw0Gro
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3KcrfW_aOE
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzJRtevLTig
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU7rPFsbssU

lonewolf19
29 Jun 08, 12:21
Zlatan interview posted in XT, good stuff.


OMG! Great find alvaro!!!
thanks for the link. gonna watch it right away:boogy::boogy:

Ziyad
29 Jun 08, 12:21
Great interview THANX..Great guy

rockball
29 Jun 08, 15:07
Saw it. It should be shown to all Ibra haters who find him very arrogant.

The_Emperor
29 Jun 08, 17:57
Hah my brother is in part 3 at 6.39. He is the second from the left with the goofy shirt. I have that photo on my fridge. How awesome!:D

Suneet
29 Jun 08, 19:15
Hah my brother is in part 3 at 6.39. He is the second from the left with the goofy shirt. I have that photo on my fridge. How awesome!:D

After reading and knowing that, dont you ask yourself, "WHERE WAS I"?:D

Luka
29 Jun 08, 19:26
Hah my brother is in part 3 at 6.39. He is the second from the left with the goofy shirt. I have that photo on my fridge. How awesome!:D
A short moment of fame ? ;)

The_Emperor
29 Jun 08, 22:13
Yeah you could say that:P.

The damn kid couldn't even remember Zlatans name and didn't even care about the fact that he took a photo with him while me, a fan, only see him on tv. Very ironic oh well...

I always miss out on Zlatan. First time I had a test ,when he was at Zlatan Court, and now when he was in Rosengard going around and chilling with kids and stuff I was in school again.

Always miss out the good stuff. Gotta hate my luck..

Thug_Paco
30 Jun 08, 11:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFZvbmn7OYc

haha, everyone MUST watch this one. Especially the part where Figo and Vieira stop to say something (3 min 30 seconds). FIGO is a CLASS act lol! He and Maxwell seem to be very close mates.

bjwam4
30 Jun 08, 15:26
Great documentary. A must see for Inter fans!

Forza ragazzi
30 Jun 08, 15:55
Ibra is misunderstood by almost everyone. He is really a great person, but people only remember quotes from when he was 20 and still a bit immature. He has grown a lot as a person and he is actually very likeable.

Jonnie_Venom89
10 Jul 08, 07:50
Hey does anyone have pictures of him during his last season at Ajax , or the first season at Juventus when he had that Cherokee-type haircut,shaved on the sides:) just askin':D

Adam
16 Jul 08, 05:24
Zlatan was supposed to show up on a kids football camp in Sweden yesterday, but instead he flew to Barcelona.

Gazzetta reports that the reason he flew there was because Inter wanted his knee to be examined.

What I want to know is why on earth would he have to fly to Barcelona to check his knee? Why couldn't he just do it today in Milan? Inter has yet to comment on it so Gazzetta is just speculating but this sounds worrying to me. And on the same exact day Ronaldinho's transfer to Milan is complete...Perhaps a coincidence but I don't like it.

nutcracker
16 Jul 08, 05:35
He won't leave us, no way.


I'm pretty curious where Zlatan will play next season. There are rumours he will be doing as offensive midfielder.

Forza ragazzi
16 Jul 08, 08:43
Zlatan was supposed to show up on a kids football camp in Sweden yesterday, but instead he flew to Barcelona.

Gazzetta reports that the reason he flew there was because Inter wanted his knee to be examined.

What I want to know is why on earth would he have to fly to Barcelona to check his knee? Why couldn't he just do it today in Milan? Inter has yet to comment on it so Gazzetta is just speculating but this sounds worrying to me. And on the same exact day Ronaldinho's transfer to Milan is complete...Perhaps a coincidence but I don't like it.

Gazzetta is speculating in what? You said yourself they said Ibra is in Barcelona to check his knee.

rockball
16 Jul 08, 08:44
Zlatan was supposed to show up on a kids football camp in Sweden yesterday, but instead he flew to Barcelona.

Gazzetta reports that the reason he flew there was because Inter wanted his knee to be examined.

What I want to know is why on earth would he have to fly to Barcelona to check his knee? Why couldn't he just do it today in Milan? Inter has yet to comment on it so Gazzetta is just speculating but this sounds worrying to me. And on the same exact day Ronaldinho's transfer to Milan is complete...Perhaps a coincidence but I don't like it.


If Inter wanted it, then I don't see any issues.

No way would Moratti sell Ibra.

Luka
16 Jul 08, 08:47
Polish inter site said, he did went to Barca for check-up, and everything is OK with his knee.

Stefan
16 Jul 08, 09:06
Here's proof that he is at the training ground:

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/107605-480.jpg

Bessi
16 Jul 08, 10:32
Ibrahimovic: "We want more victories"
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 12:06:20

APPIANO GENTILE - Zlatan Ibrahimovic greeted the fans via Inter Channel after reporting back for pre-season training.

"I had a very good holiday in America. I'm back now and I really want to start this new season and do well," said the Swede.

"It's all new now, let's see what happens. Let's hope we continue to win a lot more, maybe the Champions League as well.

"If I can stay fit I can do even better than last year. I feel good now but I have more work to do to feel even better."

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/107632.jpg

he looks cool as always in this pic. :D

ronaldinhiano
16 Jul 08, 13:27
Here's proof that he is at the training ground:

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/107605-480.jpg Is that Julio Cruz with him?

Bessi
16 Jul 08, 13:29
excactly.

M.Adnan
16 Jul 08, 13:31
Is that Julio Cruz with him?

How could you not recognize Cruz? :undecide:

Yes, it is Cruz.

Bessi
16 Jul 08, 13:34
How could you not recognize Cruz? :undecide:

Yes, it is Cruz.

but he's an ac bbilan fan:rolleyes:

hey ronaldinhiano, congrats for taking the fatty rony10.

ronaldinhiano
16 Jul 08, 14:12
How could you not recognize Cruz? :undecide:

Yes, it is Cruz.thanks...don't have a 'queer eye' I guess :dielaugh:

Puma
16 Jul 08, 14:12
I thought that was a great photograph given the havoc they caused last season (Zlatan and Cruz).

Handoyo
16 Jul 08, 15:45
Anyone knows where we can download those 6 videos? Other than downloading from YouTube itself, of course.

Adam
16 Jul 08, 16:41
Gazzetta is speculating in what? You said yourself they said Ibra is in Barcelona to check his knee.

Yeah, and that's speculation because Inter hasn't comented on it. ;) Or atleast when I wrote it this morning it was, I don't know if it's been confirmed now, that he was infact in Barca for his knee.

Bessi
16 Jul 08, 17:00
Anyone knows where we can download those 6 videos? Other than downloading from YouTube itself, of course.

For which Videos are u talking Han?

Puma
16 Jul 08, 22:50
Handoyo, I have only been able to find them on youtuibe and when i downloaded them, the subtitles disappeared. I was quite disappointed.

He is referring to the 6 part Zlatan up close and personal interviews.

Rimpel
16 Jul 08, 23:23
Great video, the 6 part video. Ibra's seems to be a really funny guy. And how ironic, his neighbour is Ronaldo (the fat one) xD

Adam
18 Jul 08, 11:18
New commercial for mediaset. I wonder why Berlusconi doesn't have Kaka or some other star do the commercials for Serie A. Could it be because Ibra sells the most?

Anyways, check it out, it's pretty funny.

9XrvgOemhSE

Luka
18 Jul 08, 11:45
Holy shit. Doctor House and Uma Thurman !

Alessandro
18 Jul 08, 12:34
http://inter.it/aas/img/107724-480.jpg

IBRA is a loaded gun... haha

Rimpel
18 Jul 08, 14:42
http://inter.it/aas/img/107724-480.jpg

IBRA is a loaded gun... haha

lol wtf

Alex de Large
18 Jul 08, 15:35
he gets excited with mourinho, any player should.

shahz_nerazzurri
19 Jul 08, 01:04
Wow, Ibra might be having Forza Inter Forums effect. I thought only FIF members got this excited at the mention of Mourinho's name.

XL, can you translate that video, or tell me whats going on in it? What are Dr.House and that chick from kill bill doing with Ibra?

Luka
19 Jul 08, 08:28
There you go man:

t2BcERBoidk

Puma
19 Jul 08, 08:48
There you go man:

t2BcERBoidk

Luka, how do you put words (translations) into videos? Can you please translate the six part Ibrahimovic documentary on youtube? At the moment, the english translation is in the video but when you download it from youtube it disappears.

Luka
19 Jul 08, 09:23
Luka, how do you put words (translations) into videos?
I didn't do it ;)

Someone already did, I just found this link yesterday, and knew there is already translated version.

As for Zlatan interview, you have it already here, thanks to INTER:

http://www.forzainterforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5698

There is already a translation made by INTER.

Puma
19 Jul 08, 14:59
Inter deny Ibra injury crisis
Saturday 19 July, 2008

Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s knee injury will not prevent him from starting the season as normal, assure Inter’s medical staff.

Newspaper speculation emerged over the state of his left knee tendon after the Swede walked off just 20 minutes into his first training session.

He had considered surgery for the recurring injury that has been troubling him for months, but decided to postpone so he could play in Euro 2008.

“Ibra will be ready for the start of the season,” said chief medic Franco Combi in today’s Press conference.
“Obviously it would have been better had be not played in the European Championship, but the Swedish medical staff were very careful.

“We resumed the rehabilitation programme and at this moment we are not even considering the possibility of surgery.

“Besides, even if he did go under the knife, it would be to clean up the area. That would keep him out of action for at most three weeks and not the many months that were rumoured in the media.”

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I have a question. If the proposed surgery is only going to keep Zlatan out for three weeks, why the fuck hasnt he had the clean up surgery? Inter's doctors must be clueless and the only explanation for putting off the surgery is that time out will be a great deal longer than three weeks. All the rest and cotton wool rehabilitation done in Sweden counts for very little when the player has to leave a training 20 minutes into a session.

Luka
19 Jul 08, 15:13
I think that will answer your question. These are the parts of the WHOLE interview translated from inter.it

Some people also talk of possible operation ...
"Now everything is going well, then was never taken into consideration the possibility of the operation. And it is not of the tendon which you've written, you have misunderstood the words of Swedish doctor who spoke only a cleaning . The same doctor has apologised to me, spiegandomi that whoever had written certain things had not understood a pipe. "

But if there should be need this intervention, it should stay out Ibrahimovic?
"Three weeks, but as I just said is not planning any intervention."

But there is an alarm Ibrahimovic as they have said and written in many today?
"Absolutely not. Ibra has improved significantly compared to a month and half ago."

tonyloo
02 Aug 08, 13:16
CdS says he's back in full training, scored a goal in the practice game. They even say that he might play in the game against Roma.

Azzkikr
02 Aug 08, 13:54
Good news.

I just fear that that injury will break out again, knee injuries have a bad habbit of doing that.

rockball
02 Aug 08, 13:58
Nothing practical in that azz. Just be optimistic for once:rolleyes:

tonyloo
02 Aug 08, 14:06
Good news.

I just fear that that injury will break out again, knee injuries have a bad habbit of doing that.

He wont get rid of it, but the only thing it will do is cause pain. He's basically trying to raise his pain barrier with different painfull excercises right now.

Adam
02 Aug 08, 14:20
Eventually the new tissue in his knee should get strong enough so that he can play without pain. If not he must go under the knife. I'm getting a little worried tbh. I mean he's been struggling with this injury since February, and he's been going through intense(the one your talking about Tonyloo) rehab for the last three. If it doesn't get better soon he will have to get an operation.

Handoyo
02 Aug 08, 17:42
He should just rest for the SuperCoppa match. It's not an important trophy and only pride is on the line, I don't think it's worth risking our best player.

CafeCordoba
03 Aug 08, 14:37
He should just rest for the SuperCoppa match. It's not an important trophy and only pride is on the line, I don't think it's worth risking our best player.

Definitely. Zlatan should be rested till he's 1000% healthy. Knee injuries are very dangerous, and we can't afford to lose him for a longer period (half season or so).

InterFan
03 Aug 08, 20:57
I prefer to [lay him in the super-coppa and let him rest in the 1st match of the season.

cloudq
04 Aug 08, 00:33
Eventually the new tissue in his knee should get strong enough so that he can play without pain. If not he must go under the knife. I'm getting a little worried tbh. I mean he's been struggling with this injury since February, and he's been going through intense(the one your talking about Tonyloo) rehab for the last three. If it doesn't get better soon he will have to get an operation.

tell that to ronaldo

knee injuries are reoccurring

once they happen, theres a greater chance of it happening again, and again

its like huntington's

nutcracker
04 Aug 08, 10:49
Zlatan got called for the Bayern match. Aswell Cordoba, Chivu, Rivas and Cruz. Seems like we won't need to buy any new CD.

Forza ragazzi
04 Aug 08, 12:00
I'm not sure they're fit. Nevertheless, I think Jose wants to have the whole group with him, because he certainly feels he needs as much time as possible together with the whole group. It's good for the relation to his players, plus it creates a feeling of unity among the players.

A.l.i
04 Aug 08, 13:57
Jose just spoke highly of him.

Luka
06 Aug 08, 15:35
I've just checked, because I remembered that Ajax played like almost forever in 4-3-3 system, and in 2 years Ajax played in CL, everytime they played 4-3-3(there was only couple of exceptions with 4-4-2) Ibra was the center man.

Just an interested fact if someone is interested. My point is, Ajax is known for their scouting and shit, and if they found Ibra, he had to fit in their system.

Who knows, maybe Jose indeed is looking at Ibra as a center man. I would be ok with it, as long as Ibra talents aren't forsaken and he still will have the room to do his magic.

On the other hand, I've read Jose saying, that 3 attackers for him will be, a center man, a typical fast, technical winger, and a second player who is more of a forward. Well I don't remember exactly how he put it, but the point is, he mentioned only 1 typical winger.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Pulsar36
06 Aug 08, 15:37
I prefer to [lay him in the super-coppa and let him rest in the 1st match of the season.

I don't think you get it. The point is not to rest him for the maximum time in total time, but continuously. It is not resting him for X amount of time, it is resting him for X days continuously from now to a point where he is completely healthy.

Adam
07 Aug 08, 19:23
Mourinho has said Ibra will play a part in tomorrows match! And if he's well he will play 45 minutes against Ajax. Sounds like his rehab is going well. :)

IMO, this is great news! I can't wait to see him on the pitch again.

Luka
07 Aug 08, 22:00
I forgot about todays conference before you, XL reminded me about it with your post :>

Great to hear Ibra is improving. Also, we hear about deffenders who are constantly improving. More and more good news. Now, just give me Ricky Q. and we're done with this years mercato :]

lonewolf19
08 Aug 08, 00:15
damn speedy recovery if he can play some mins against Sevilla tomorrow

Bessi
10 Aug 08, 21:42
had some good chances against ajax. didn't believe he lost 1v1 with keeper.

He's still fitting in his best form and I think this will happen very fastly.
Him. And. Adri. Just a monster duo.

lonewolf19
11 Aug 08, 04:43
Good to see him back on the pitch. Hope his knee is completely cured. A long and hard season awaits and this time he needs to show his true quality and prove a point to the world.

Suneet
11 Aug 08, 15:38
Why was he playing in a skirt?? :lol:

Ilkinio
11 Aug 08, 15:58
May be, it's what they call sexy football :D
Why this team becomes so gay nowadays? :D

A.l.i
11 Aug 08, 16:34
Why is this forum becoming so gay these days?

rockball
11 Aug 08, 19:19
Hey! thats Darky's dialogue.

Ilkinio
12 Aug 08, 03:20
Exactly! Rockball, thanks for the support!

Puma
12 Aug 08, 09:35
Darky likes fags. That is why he never hesitates in bringing them up. Apparently Zlatan ripped his shorts because he was hot.

Ilkinio
12 Aug 08, 09:41
I like declaring them. Your enthusiasm, Puma, shows how much u wanna join that list! Good addition!

tonyloo
12 Aug 08, 09:43
Haha, swedish media says it was because his muscles were to big and the shorts to small.

Great journalism.

rockball
12 Aug 08, 11:06
How come I missed that pic :lol:
Someone post the link or the pic..

Luka
12 Aug 08, 14:02
That was for the entire game. I don't think you will have any problems spoting that, just by checking the highlights of the game on youtube.

Jimmy
19 Aug 08, 11:41
Could be a fake injury, but Zlatan has been ruled out from the friendly tomorrow due to feeling his knee again. Could very well be true, but I wouldn't be too surprised if he has been told to act injured, so he doesn't have to play the game.

Ilkinio
19 Aug 08, 11:44
Mourinho surely has his ways to make players satisfy his demands. It's interesting to see if he would be able to make Vieira stay of France NT.

Stefan
19 Aug 08, 12:40
Well initially Zlatan had agreed with mou to only play 45 minutes. So hopefully this isn't serious and just a cunning plan.

VLE
22 Aug 08, 07:35
I was really wishing he'd be our Bergkamp (and also a target), but I guess now its impossible under 4-3-3.

I still feel he has not found his exact role. I hope he does under Mou.

A.l.i
22 Aug 08, 10:16
He has to make that final step which gives him "world class" status.

Forza ragazzi
25 Aug 08, 11:49
He is very good as target man. He flicks, he passes, he nods, he lays it off and he can even take it down and turn towards goal. I like what I see from him. The only minus is that he could be more lethal in front of goal. But the important thing is that he helps the team win, and he certainly does that.

Dylan
26 Aug 08, 04:39
Zlat Attack!

Frisko
27 Aug 08, 14:36
Zlatan's movement and passing vs Roma were deadly, if he stays fit I think he could have his best season yet. The 3 strikers system with Mourinho, with people like Cambiasso and Muntari ready to come up and support, seems to be ideal for him.

Frisko
28 Aug 08, 11:37
Zlatan was interviewed by Gazzetta, I got the digital copy of the paper so I'll translate it later on, check back!

Luka
28 Aug 08, 11:51
Great!

snake
28 Aug 08, 12:07
He has to make that final step which gives him "world class" status.

lolo, bro you crack me up lolo....... :lol:

He is easily in the top 10 most gifted players on this planet. He can control a ball like almost anyone out there. He has almost single handedly led us to back-to-back scudettos. He is one of the world's most highest paid players, playing in one of the world's most elite leagues and yet, his not world class?

I'm sorry, do you even know what that term means?

If he isnt world class, then who is? Messi hasnt achieved a spec of what he has.

Stop being idiotic, these players can do things with the ball you cant even dream of. If they arent the epitomy of class, then I'm scared for the rest of us.

Nerazzurro
28 Aug 08, 12:31
Why is this forum becoming so gay these days?


Just these days? :lol:

Luka
28 Aug 08, 12:34
I don't think people realise how uncommon it is for such a tall and powerfull striker, to have a technique any brasilian wouldn't be shamed about.

Just find me another player like that today on the planet. There was Koller once, but he was not that gifted, nor skilled.

A.l.i
28 Aug 08, 14:29
lolo, bro you crack me up lolo....... :lol:

He is easily in the top 10 most gifted players on this planet. He can control a ball like almost anyone out there. He has almost single handedly led us to back-to-back scudettos. He is one of the world's most highest paid players, playing in one of the world's most elite leagues and yet, his not world class?

I'm sorry, do you even know what that term means?

If he isnt world class, then who is? Messi hasnt achieved a spec of what he has.

Stop being idiotic, these players can do things with the ball you cant even dream of. If they arent the epitomy of class, then I'm scared for the rest of us.

Dude am not being an Azzkicker here but:

1. I didn't mention Messi as being world class.
2. These players can do things we can't even dream of?? That's going over the hill h20.
3. On controlling the ball sorta things, you stick with a football for 3 consecutive months, you'll notice the difference in your play yourself + Berbatov seems to have that gifted ability as well but that doesn't mean he's world class.

EDIT: Leave these arguments aside bro, we have had enough already in this thread.

cloudq
28 Aug 08, 14:29
I don't think people realise how uncommon it is for such a tall and powerfull striker, to have a technique any brasilian wouldn't be shamed about.

Just find me another player like that today on the planet. There was Koller once, but he was not that gifted, nor skilled.

vieri, shit that guy was a monster

and to a much much lesser extent peter crouch, i love that he tries tricks even hes hes a freaking beanstalk and can really hold a ball up

Luka
28 Aug 08, 15:18
Oh yeah?

Find me Vieri or Crouch doing this:

(2:36)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wudagTG5sGc&feature=related

Frisko
28 Aug 08, 16:13
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa82/Friskazo/Clipboard01-3.jpg

Ibra, Serie A is about the start again. The last scene from last season is your double against Parma.

That was the biggest moment of my career.

And think that you weren’t even supposed to play…

True, but at the final whistle after Inter v Siena, I told Salsano: “Fausto, I’m playing against Parma, we’ve got to win this title!” I worked hard all week and to be honest I thought I’d play from the start. I was suffering so much on the bench, with us drawing 0-0 and Roma winning against Catania.

But then…

I’ll never forget how happy my teammates were when they were running to me, hugging me. They were all coming at me: bench guys, physiotherapist, club officials. It was fantastic, unique.

Since then, new coach. What’s Mourinho like?

He’s the most complete coach I’ve ever had, on and off the pitch. He cares about every single detail, with us but with journalists too. I’ve heard about him when he was coach at Chelsea, and after a month of knowing him in person, I only have positive things to say about him. You can see how different he is from other coaches, straight away. There’s a new spirit now, the teams has more belief, controls the game, it’s ideal for a player like me.

Ibra in between two real wingers, is that your ideal role?

I used to play like that at Ajax, where I learned so much. I love that position. The good thing for me is that I can play with the 3 strikers or the 2. And anyway, it’s not like I’m the static striker, the system is very dynamic. The coach always says, I put 3 up there, but I want movement. That means that sometimes I can start on the right or the left. At the end, I have absolute freedom of movement.

When did relationships between Mancini and the players break down?

After Inter v Liverpool. Those words put the trust between him and the players in jeopardy. Those words also affected the team’s belief: after that, we struggled even in games that we used to win easily. Sometimes, you make the difference with small things, just by creating the right atmosphere and by giving the team confidence.

How’s your knee?

It’s good, much better. I still can’t say it’s completely healed, I still have to do some specific work with it. But right now I’m ready to play every 3 days.

Was there a moment during last season when you feared the worst?

When I decided to stop, at the end of March. I couldn’t take it anymore, after two months of pain.

Let’s put your rivals for the Scudetto in oder…

The usual…

Milan, Juve and Roma?

I also rate Fiorentina very highly, but they all come after us. Inter is still the stronger team.

What’s Inter’s place in Europe?

Among the first 5, the teams that will challenge for the Champions League this season: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd and Chelsea.

Is Balotelli ready for Lippi’s National Team?

I don’t see any Italian striker with his characteristics. Surely Mario’s very young, but if I was Lippi I’d start integrating him in the group.

How’s Adriano?

He’s coming back and we never fail to encourage him. Mourinho does the same, and goes by the physio centre every day to check on him in person.

Luka
28 Aug 08, 16:24
thanks!!!

Ilkinio
28 Aug 08, 17:24
Frisko, thanks for the translation.

Luka, that was some pass. I believe, that there are few players that can make such pass.

Adam
28 Aug 08, 17:32
Yeah, there are but not who weight 95 kg and are 1.93 which is Luka's point. ;) Oh and thx for the translation Frisk. :)

Stefan
28 Aug 08, 19:03
Thanx Frisko.:)

Handoyo
28 Aug 08, 20:39
Grande Frisko!

Luka
29 Aug 08, 14:55
"Over the years, for example, I had not yet seen a player so good as Ibrahimovic. Quello which is one extraordinary technical quality, when I speak of him or Kakà I think of players the same level. Ok, the Brazilian has won a European Footballer of the Year who has earned and is a player that I like much, but why can not Ibra do the same? Zlatan is the same size of football Kakà. "


Lets sell him !!!

nutcracker
29 Aug 08, 15:02
yeah. 2 milions would be a fair deal, wouldn't it?

Ilkinio
29 Aug 08, 15:13
Lol. He is still here? :)

Luka
29 Aug 08, 15:20
What do you think ? :]

Ilkinio
29 Aug 08, 15:26
"Absolute disgrace" (c) :)

Luka
29 Aug 08, 15:52
Haha

"I'm fan... tastic" (c) :P

achilles
01 Sep 08, 18:11
Zlatan must be one of the more excited players with the arrival of Quaresma. Figo is key to helping Ricardo adjust, but that is more off the field.

Zlatan - Super Mario - Ricky Q

Thats a trio I am looking more forward to seeing! Especially over time. But I have even higher expectations from that trio than seeing those two (Ibra and RQ) with Adriano!

cloudq
02 Sep 08, 10:41
Oh yeah?

Find me Vieri or Crouch doing this:

(2:36)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wudagTG5sGc&feature=related

obviously not the same

but crouch is fundamentally in the same class as ball-holding forward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRhmI3AIP_o&feature=related

Luka
02 Sep 08, 11:49
You must be joking.

He is tall, taller than Ibra, but deffinetly not as strong, and the height is not the most important thing in being able to protect the ball. Tevez and Rooney are both not tall, but both can hold the ball great, because of their physical strength. Ibra is BOTH tall and strong, AND on top of that has absolutely amazing technique. That's why he is so unique.

szasza02
02 Sep 08, 20:25
Zlatan - Super Mario - Ricky Q

Thats a trio I am looking more forward to seeing! Especially over time. But I have even higher expectations from that trio than seeing those two (Ibra and RQ) with Adriano!
spot on ;)

cloudq
03 Sep 08, 01:46
You must be joking.

He is tall, taller than Ibra, but deffinetly not as strong, and the height is not the most important thing in being able to protect the ball. Tevez and Rooney are both not tall, but both can hold the ball great, because of their physical strength. Ibra is BOTH tall and strong, AND on top of that has absolutely amazing technique. That's why he is so unique.

thats why and i quote:


and to a much much lesser extent peter crouch, i love that he tries tricks even hes hes a freaking beanstalk and can really hold a ball up

Akif
03 Sep 08, 07:03
Have you seen the "young" Zlatan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aLQ_yu0trw&feature=related

I think his 'arrogance' cannot be matched for anyone in his age :star:

(Nearly in the end of interview, he was asked what his dream is, and he said, "Playing for Inter, besides Ronaldo" :proud:)

Luka
03 Sep 08, 08:39
Yes. We already saw it, when this vid got on youtube.

It is somewhere on the board.

Clear and final proof, that Zlatan was an Inter fan since being young kid.

cloudq
03 Sep 08, 08:40
Yes. We already saw it, when this vid got on youtube.

It is somewhere on the board.

Clear and final proof, that Zlatan was a Ronaldo fan since being young kid.

fixed

seriously what was he attracted to? our ability to win the UEFA Cup? our 15 coaches we had before we signed him?

tonyloo
03 Sep 08, 08:56
fixed

seriously what was he attracted to? our ability to win the UEFA Cup? our 15 coaches we had before we signed him?

What are you attached to?

Akif
03 Sep 08, 09:02
He obviously is attracted to Ronaldo. The Ronaldo we used to know was someone who gave inspiration towards many modern football players (Ibra, Balotelli, Kaka, Pato, etc).

Luka
03 Sep 08, 09:13
He said in one interview, that when he was kid, he and his friends had their favourites in Italy, and in England. While someone took Juve, someone else took Milan, he took Inter.

Handoyo
04 Sep 08, 01:27
It doesn't fucking matter now, he's an Inter legend and that's that. :)

bjwam4
04 Sep 08, 04:03
This is actually kinda funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLBFH0U_vyw&NR=1

achilles
05 Sep 08, 01:51
Same as how I became an Inter fan, my friend when I was maybe in grade 6 (about 12 or 13) was always reading 4-4-2 magazine (mind you, this is in the Arctic in Canada, as far removed from European football as physically possible) so I was intrigued by the world of football, obviously.

His team was Juventus, because they had this amazing youngster by the name of Alessandro Del Piero, but I was attracted to another team, also led by a brash young striker, by the name of Ronaldo.

In the end, I ended up loving the team of Inter more than Ronaldo, it was when I saw that Inter could win without him I suddenly found myself loving the team, and criticizing Ronaldo. :)

A.l.i
07 Sep 08, 10:30
He's Serie A's highest paid player. I think that's too much.

Stefan
07 Sep 08, 11:08
He's Serie A's highest paid player. I think that's too much.

Why ?? He won us two scudetto's. He is worth every cent.

Handoyo
08 Sep 08, 07:46
8.8 million Pounds a season is fucking whooping. But he's one of the best players in the world and we're the most ambitious team right now so this was kinda expected. I do think that we should stop doing useless contract extension/upgrade though, because if I remember correctly, Ibra's contract were already improved after the 06/07 season and then again after then 07/08 season.

lonewolf19
08 Sep 08, 07:53
8.8 million POUNDS? I hope he is worth every cent we pay him from now on.
As long as he keeps his performance (or slightly more improvement), I think it is justified.
However, his wage can almost FEED a lower Serie A clubs.

Handoyo
08 Sep 08, 08:45
Well Lonewolf, that's what I read in C4. It's crazy, I know.

Btw, wtf, triple post by me. :wth: BANNED!

CafeCordoba
08 Sep 08, 11:00
I remember Zlatan denying the contract extension. Or at least the raise to 11m€ per season. He said that in some interview on the spring or then in early summer.

Puma
08 Sep 08, 11:27
I remember Zlatan denying the contract extension. Or at least the raise to 11m€ per season. He said that in some interview on the spring or then in early summer.

Thats like Inzaghi trying to deny his homosexuality.

Alessandro
08 Sep 08, 12:15
Thats like Inzaghi trying to deny his homosexuality.

hahahaha

rockball
08 Sep 08, 18:54
When was his contract last renewed? Last I heard Kaka was the highest earner in Serie A.

lonewolf19
09 Sep 08, 01:17
The thing is I do not mind Zlatan earning so much, he won us two Scudetti. However, I am afraid this is going to cause unrest in the dressing room.

How do you think Maxwell and Maicon will feel now that they are earning 5 times lower than Zlatan? I can assure you those two contributes at least half of Zlatan if not more.

snake
09 Sep 08, 01:30
When was his contract last renewed? Last I heard Kaka was the highest earner in Serie A.

Last I heard Kaka was the highest earner in the world, let alone serie a.

VLE
09 Sep 08, 10:00
The rumor of Zlatan getting 12m was around since Winterbreak, and it being AFTER the tax should be noted.

Seems worth it when Kaka is getting 9m, but considering how long it took Maicon and JC to get wages around 3m, it may be too much.

Luka
13 Sep 08, 17:37
Btw, wtf, triple post by me. :wth: BANNED!
That was something I was always curious about. Can you ban yourself? And what happenes if you do this? :P

...

That's a great pic.

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/109322-480.jpg

I think I can say now, that Ibra is totally "Inter-vised", and he is part of the family, 100%. All JuBe blood, was taken dry away from him.

Sure, he gets paid freekin lots of money, but find me Vieira pic like that. And we all do know, that Ibra has Nerazzurri heart inside.

A.l.i
13 Sep 08, 18:57
Luka, even if I meet a good person everyday, I'd greet him the same way Ibra is doing above.

Suneet
13 Sep 08, 20:43
Worst performance ever in an Inter jersey.

Amazing that he still could have got 2 goals easily. But thats Ibra, we all know he will improve, but tonite whatever he did went wrong.

Handoyo
13 Sep 08, 20:47
I just hope that he can revert back to playing as a lone striker after being used as a support striker for the last 4 years in Serie A. I don't think being a target man is his best position, but Ibra just have to learn.

Rimpel
13 Sep 08, 20:50
Worst performance ever in an Inter jersey.

Amazing that he still could have got 2 goals easily. But thats Ibra, we all know he will improve, but tonite whatever he did went wrong.

I didn't think about that actually, but you're right I can't recall him having a worse performance than today. Except for mabye against Liverpool.

tonyloo
13 Sep 08, 20:54
Yep, looked almost the same against Hungary earlier this week. Should've atleast started on the bench. 3 games in one week is clearly not possible. Against Albania last weekend he was good, against Hungary midweek he was bad, and this game was a further step down.

lonewolf19
13 Sep 08, 21:01
One of his worst game and off day. Hope he recovers soon

Luka
13 Sep 08, 21:50
Just give him a little bit more time. He will "gel" with this new idea sooner rather than later.

Ilkinio
14 Sep 08, 01:56
It was tough week for all of our players. So, i don't see why Ibra should be criticized. He needs time.

addo
14 Sep 08, 10:48
3 games in one week..

Executioner93
14 Sep 08, 12:37
No worries Ibra will get anywhere between 19-24 goals in the league this year please don't blast me for saying this it will happen trust he's been on a steady incline over the years and one thing:

Remember now guys 20 goals in Italy is 30 goals in EPL if u don't count penalties trust Ibra will be seria's highest scorer now for Europe I think 6 goals while our man Adri will lead us in that department towards European glory Adri will be our highest scoring player in Europe. It's a shame too because if Ibra want's his ballon d 'or he needs to lead in CL goals and assists but no worries he will win it in the next 1 1/2 / 2 years be it next season we got ourselves a ballon d' or.

rockball
14 Sep 08, 12:52
Remember now guys 20 goals in Italy is 30 goals in EPL

Why so?
And didn't Serie A have more goals than EPL last season?

Jonnie_Venom89
14 Sep 08, 13:49
Sooner or later a question will rise....who is our most gifted player in terms of skill,ball control and technique , Ibra or Quaresma? :) I think that at the MOMENT Ibra is on a different level than Quaresma (1 level up:) )...but we'll see:)...anywayz love them both

Luka
14 Sep 08, 15:22
I believe they are equall when it goes to ball controll and technique, but Quaresma, because of his physics(he is smaller) looks better on the ball, as he is more agile, and quicker.

But when we talk purely only about those 2 above, I think they are identical, or very close to eachother either way.

Executioner93
14 Sep 08, 16:03
Why so?
And didn't Serie A have more goals than EPL last season?

True that, I think u might be right on the #. I'm just saying this based on players like C. Ronaldo Torres and midfielders Like Lamps and Gerrard those #'s wouldn't be as high in Italy especially now when it comes to the league. If Ibra was in EPL he would exploit the D over there he'd easily have 30 plus every season and some other top class attackers would have the same #. Serie A is the most difficult league in the world for someone to argue against it they are purely ignorant. Ask any player that has played in Italy in their career they would tell u exactly that. The d line doesn't give u time to shoot these big bombs and most of it is because it is a league that focus on organized tactics non of this free roam ball where especially now in games players expose with their speed and flair players like Torres and pretty boy Cristiano. Baggio said it football now requires no skill like before just speed and flair or something along the same lines. Which is 100% FACT. You bring these players to Italy they wouldn't score over 30 goals in the course of the season you can bet on it.

Ilkinio
15 Sep 08, 19:16
http://www.sports.ru/images/object_1.1221489211.jpg

Khalifa
17 Sep 08, 00:32
the no look pass anybody for Adrianos goal anybody?

He was gigantic today, keep it up.

Handoyo
17 Sep 08, 01:06
And what everyone needs to remember is this: Mourinho's 'successful' Chelsea, the Chelsea of 04/05 and 05/06 did not have a 30 goal striker. In those seasons, they focused in using 4-3-3 and without a strike partner, Drogba did not manage as much goals. This was compensated by goals from all over the place (J.Cole, Robben, Lampard, Duff, etc)

Unless Mourinho utilizes Adriano more often, at the expense of Mancini/Quaresma, I doubt Ibrahimovic will hit the 20 goal mark this season, especially considering how poor of a finisher/poacher he is in the first place.

lonewolf19
17 Sep 08, 01:17
Adding on the Han's point, we do not have a regular MF scorer like Lampard/J Cole. We cant rely on a similar 4-3-3 of Chelsea. Our 3 MFs are two-way midfielder who are better in defense while the 3 MFs in Chelsea are two-way midfielder better in attacks.

Jose need to work this out otherwise we will have problem finishing the move

Alex de Large
17 Sep 08, 01:21
And now, please, change (or create a poll), the nickname in the tittle thread, Ibracadabra for "The son of God", or, if you guys want, the Scarpini nickname (Il Genio).

Ibracadabra is horrible.

snake
17 Sep 08, 07:30
How anyone continues to question this player is like asking why Hamed is still single.

Ibra won us 2 scudettos. That's engraved into the history of Inter now.

Handoyo
17 Sep 08, 08:05
Adding on the Han's point, we do not have a regular MF scorer like Lampard/J Cole. We cant rely on a similar 4-3-3 of Chelsea. Our 3 MFs are two-way midfielder who are better in defense while the 3 MFs in Chelsea are two-way midfielder better in attacks.

Jose need to work this out otherwise we will have problem finishing the move
In fact, this is the main reason why I think we missed out on the most important target this summer in the transfer market. Look at that Fat Frank, 3 goals in 5 matches already. :wallbang:


And now, please, change (or create a poll), the nickname in the tittle thread, Ibracadabra for "The son of God", or, if you guys want, the Scarpini nickname (Il Genio).

Ibracadabra is horrible.
Good idea. But I just wanna make sure we have all the nicknames covered:

Ibracadabra
Son of God
Il Genio

What else?

Luka
17 Sep 08, 08:26
Il Genio works for me perfectly.

I just want to remind something it was said about Ibra some time ago. As long, as Ibra will not hesitate to pass this ball to the better placed teammate and make a goal, Inter will win. He did it versus Pool, but unfortunetly Julio was out of the mart that day. The problem is with mixing both. Zlatan can creat as many chances as Zidane in his best days, but he is still a striker, and needs goals, to just "feel" right, so I hope he will be on the marker on sunday.

The great thing, is how Jose underlined, that Ibra is working for the team, and Ibra himself although admiting he didn't score(heh, just proves my point, he made 2 assists, he won't say it, but I'm sure he is a little dissapointed he didn't score) said he enjoyed the game.

Oh, and BTW... SELL HIM!!!

A.l.i
17 Sep 08, 08:28
oh, and btw... sell him!!!

:p

Adam
17 Sep 08, 10:18
Yeah I agree LUka, "Il Genio" sounds good to me too. In fact that's what most publications call him. Him, Savisevic and Maradona are the only three players to get that nickname in Italy that I know of, but I could be wrong.

Luka
17 Sep 08, 11:01
For once a good article on C4.



Blog: The real Special One
Forget Jose Mourinho for now, Antonio Labbate explains why Zlatan Ibrahimovic is Inter’s true leader

The only Special One at Inter right now is Zlatan Ibrahimovic. And Jose Mourinho knows it. While Adriano pumped his first with delight after making it 2-0 at Panathinaikos last night, the Portuguese tactician tellingly lost his cool by embracing the Swedish international after he delivered his second stunning assist of the evening.

“I heard a lot about him being an ego player, but I still haven’t come across that,” noted Mourinho. “I have found a fantastic guy who works for the team and is willing to put in an incredible amount of effort. If he plays like that then I don’t need him to score goals.”

The real Ibra turned up in Athens last night, the man who Italian football enthusiasts admire and not the player who uneducated pundits outside of the peninsula disgracefully take pleasure in mocking.

When fit, Ibra – the highest paid footballer in Italy – is worthy of the Golden Ball. He certainly has his weaknesses as a player and as a man, yet Ibrahimovic is a unique specimen in not only Serie A but in world football. Not many players with size 13 boots can do what he does.

He guided Inter to their first on the field Scudetto since 1989 two years ago and was again instrumental last term. Although missing large chunks of the campaign through a problematic knee injury, which also hampered him at Euro 2008, he came off the bench on the last day of the season to net a championship winning brace at Parma.

Already crucial to Roberto Mancini’s Inter, Ibrahimovic is even more vital to Mourinho during these early days of his reign. As the tactician struggles to give his side an identity, he needs Zlatan to keep making the difference until everything falls into place. It’s a job that Ibrahimovic is more than capable of doing.

The bolded part are (first) sadly true, and (second) something unfortunetly many inter fans need to be reminded of on a constant basis.

Suneet
17 Sep 08, 13:59
Ibracadabra should be the name. Unique.

A few days back he perhaps gave his worst ever performance, he rocked yesterday, lets just hope he turns up when the more difficult games come up...

Asperiini1
17 Sep 08, 15:07
i have allways praised Ibra and he is one of the world best attackers. There is many people who cant understand that, like EPL fans. Ibra can do so much magic with he's performance that if Ibra can be fit he will give us the CL.

lonewolf19
17 Sep 08, 16:56
Editorial from goal.com


Calcio Debate: Can Ibra Finally Conquer Europe?
Zlatan Ibrahimovic produced a mesmerising individual performance for Inter in the Champions League last night. The ‘Super Swede’ has long been criticised for flopping on the European stage – can he finally produce when it matters this time around?

Since arriving in Italy in 2004, few can argue against the impact that Zlatan Ibrahimovic has made on domestic football in the peninsula. The giant marksman has won the Scudetto every year, two each with Juventus and Inter, and aside from his under-par second season with the Bianconeri, he has played a key role in each of these triumphs.

For someone who has always been criticised for his finishing - and rightfully so - in total Ibra has still managed to score 55 goals in 123 Serie A appearances. Not a bad ratio, especially when you consider the large number of assists that he also regularly conjures up.

When at his best, Ibra is very close to being the complete forward. Tall, strong, sound in the air, skilful, creative, with the ability to hold up the ball, as well as produce the unexpected, it is no surprise that the player has in the past drawn comparisons with the legendary Marco Van Basten.

Ibrahimovic demonstrated all of these qualities during Inter’s 2-0 win over Panathinaikos in their Champions League opener last night. His first half performance, as I wrote in my player ratings, was a lesson to all strikers who play the game. The 26-year-old created both goals with two quite stunning assists, the first after beating three men before laying the ball off to Mancini, and the second after threading a blind through pass to Adriano with the outside of his boot.

“He did an incredible job,” said Inter coach Mourinho, who hugged and embraced the Swede following Adriano’s killer second.

“His commitment is an example of how to become an exceptional sportsman. His second assist was genius.”

Despite these moments of genius, Ibra is still not championed on the continent as he is in Italy. In Britain in particular, Ibrahimovic is considered by many managers, fans, and journalists to be the most over-rated player ever to have played the game. Indeed these were the words that Aston Villa boss Martin O’Neill once used about the player some months ago.

Of course this is a terrible over exaggeration, as anyone who tunes into Serie A will know what Ibra is capable of. However, the truth remains that the Swede has never performed well in the big Champions League games up until this point, and indeed it is not too harsh to describe him as a big game (continental) flop.

Last season there were three major reasons for Inter’s exit to Liverpool in the last 16. One of these (the officials and Roberto Mancini were the others) was the hugely disappointing performance in both legs of Ibrahimovic, who was a ghost at Anfield, and missed a number of sitters at San Siro. The season before that he was poor during the last 16 elimination to Valencia, while the same was so for Juventus during their 2005 and 2006 quarter final exits to Liverpool and Arsenal respectively.

Last night Ibrahimovic was an absolute magician against Panathinaikos, but this was in the first game of the group stage against a rather mediocre team. We have seen Ibra perform in these kinds of games so many times in the past, but against better opposition, and when the post-February pressure is really on, he has often struggled.

Perhaps Mourinho is the coach to get the very best out of Ibrahimovic, and will allow him to finally live up to his undoubted potential on the European stage. If this proves to be the case then Inter will have a great chance of ending their 43-year Champions League drought.

Bessi
17 Sep 08, 17:00
Yeah good idea to change the topic name. Ibracadabra to me sounds bad. Il Genio is the greatest. Would love to see that.

..


QUOTE:
Time To Change History - Ibra

Really great, i hope he keeps the good form up and learns how to finish. He really lacks that very much.

Luka
17 Sep 08, 17:10
JuBe fans are already making the same questions they made dozens of times:

1. "Why did we sell him"
2. "And Why to Inter" :P

camdenyards1
17 Sep 08, 18:14
I don't get how these articles are saying he's failed to live up to expectations in the CL. He was incredible during the group stage last year with 5 goals in those games. He wasn't even bad against Liverpool. The whole team was terrible and he made chances for Cruz when he did get the ball.

Ilkinio
17 Sep 08, 19:41
JuBe fans are already making the same questions they made dozens of times:

1. "Why did we sell him"
2. "And Why to Inter" :P

I know that some people won't agree with me. But...

He was totally different player in Jube. People can bash Mancini all day long. But, don't forget that Mancio was great striker himself. I'm pretty sure that he taught Ibra a thing or two. Mourinho is great psychologist. But he never played big. Of course, Ibra is exceptional talent. The thing is that he really stepped up in quality during Mancio times.

Bessi
17 Sep 08, 19:48
I don't get how these articles are saying he's failed to live up to expectations in the CL. He was incredible during the group stage last year with 5 goals in those games. He wasn't even bad against Liverpool. The whole team was terrible and he made chances for Cruz when he did get the ball.
Totally Agreed. But these kinda articles make me nervous. I'm sure that if Inter have a really good colective game, Ibra would be one of the bests, as in the start of this new CL season as he did two assist and for me he was the man of the match. i think he can play better as a winger and give assist to adriano (cf).

Luka
17 Sep 08, 20:42
I know that some people won't agree with me. But...

He was totally different player in Jube. People can bash Mancini all day long. But, don't forget that Mancio was great striker himself. I'm pretty sure that he taught Ibra a thing or two. Mourinho is great psychologist. But he never played big. Of course, Ibra is exceptional talent. The thing is that he really stepped up in quality during Mancio times.
On the contrary. I think most of interisti and other fans of Calcio will agree with you. Everybody knows he is a better player at Inter. His first season with JuBe was ok, but second was very poor, while in Inter it was a hell of a different story. Partialy because he lost a lot of weight, something that was reported was his problem in second season in Jube.

Couple of JuBentini also pointed that out. However it is funny to read many of them asking the same questions :]

Handoyo
17 Sep 08, 21:17
Darky, you don't have to be that defensive when it comes to R.Mancini. Most of us already agreed that he's an Inter legend and I'm sure the majority here would agree as well that Mancio contributed a lot to the Ibra of today.

Anyways, poll added. And my 2 cents: I like none of them. When it comes to buying jerseys, I usually put a player's real name in the away jersey and his nickname in the home jersey. (Eg, I put Il Capitano 4 for my 07/08 home jersey, J.Zanetti for my 07/08 away jersey and Il Presidente 3 for my 06/07 home jersey and Facchetti for my 06/07 away jersey etc)

But when it comes to Ibra, I just put Zlatan for the home jersey because Il genio, for me, belongs to the Milan bastard Savicevic and Ibracadabra is just too freaking corny & cheesy. :) As for "Son of God".......:lol: to whoever comes up with that.

Ilkinio
18 Sep 08, 01:43
Ok. I accept. I am very defensive when it comes to Mancini. Yes, most of the board members accepted that he is a legend. But, some moments and feats were not mentioned on this board. Just trying to underline them.

Handoyo
18 Sep 08, 02:41
Something that crossed my mind...

Do you think Zlatan can improve his finishing? It's not a trick question, but sometimes I think we complain too much about our players when it's really easier said than done. I'm sure players & coaches know the weaknesses and I really wonder, have they tried really that hard and is it just impossible to change some things?

Adriano still can't hit a ball with his right foot, Martins was too fast for his own good when it comes to dribbling, J.Zanetti is too timid and doesn't take any risk at all despite the fact that he needs to, etc etc.

Rashid
18 Sep 08, 03:10
I fucking luv this bastard but instead of sucking his d!ck, thought i'll ask y the hell can't he finish for his life?!?

In one movement he proves to be a true genious but 5 mins later he's missing 1v1's or sitter's. Against catania he was missing chances left and right and waited for 5 mins from time to outragesly test Bizzarri thru mancini's cross by trying to knock in the ball using the sole of his foot, can't he score regular ugly goals, they count too (i miss vieri) or against PAO he comes up with 2 brilliant assits but again wastes 1 chance after the other.

Yes he's gr8, yes he won us the scudetto last yr and yes wen he's in the mood he rips up any oppositions defence but i for 1 demand more from him, he has the potential to be the complete player if he were to improve this area in his game cuz round this time next year i wanna see him bringing the ballon d'or bk to the meazza, its been too long....

(han it ain't good enuff to say its impossible, look at that ugly cvnt ronaldo, b4 2 seasons ago he had speed and tricks with no end product and look at him now, players can improve, its a question of if they actually do, impossible wud be asking vieri to run faster or zanetti to pass with vision or viera to give a shit bout inter...)

minterke
18 Sep 08, 03:43
I fucking luv this bastard but instead of sucking his d!ck, thought i'll ask y the hell can't he finish for his life?!?

In one movement he proves to be a true genious but 5 mins later he's missing 1v1's or sitter's. Against catania he was missing chances left and right and waited for 5 mins from time to outragesly test Bizzarri thru mancini's cross by trying to knock in the ball using the sole of his foot, can't he score regular ugly goals, they count too (i miss vieri) or against PAO he comes up with 2 brilliant assits but again wastes 1 chance after the other.

Yes he's gr8, yes he won us the scudetto last yr and yes wen he's in the mood he rips up any oppositions defence but i for 1 demand more from him, he has the potential to be the complete player if he were to improve this area in his game cuz round this time next year i wanna see him bringing the ballon d'or bk to the meazza, its been too long....

(han it ain't good enuff to say its impossible, look at that ugly cvnt ronaldo, b4 2 seasons ago he had speed and tricks with no end product and look at him now, players can improve, its a question of if they actually do, impossible wud be asking vieri to run faster or zanetti to pass with vision or viera to give a shit bout inter...)

are you an old member who came back? ur posts sound familiar..

I agree with everything you just said.

Luka
18 Sep 08, 09:03
I'm in the opinion, we should give Zlatan a little bit more time. He have said he wanted to chip the ball in PAO game, and it completely went wrong, and we all know, Zlatan can do everything with the ball with ease. That too.

So it means his touch is not 100% back there. I'm not saying, when he will come back to being 100% in tearms of form, he will score everything, but we all remember him last season, before the injury. He scored a lot of goals, and he was actually quite good finisher back than(in his standard).

My point is, he showed last year(when he hadn't had physical problems) that he inproved his finishing skills greatly, so we know what he is capable of. The reason why he isn't doing the same now, is IMO because he is still not 100%. But he is close to being there, his movement, passing is a lot better than in last games.

Adam
18 Sep 08, 09:05
Agree Luka, Ibra's finishing last season was actually quite good and it improved immensly, especially his longshots were superb. What he really, really still needs to work on though, is his one on one's.

achilles
18 Sep 08, 20:57
(upon Zlatan's transfer to Inter)The worst motherf*cking transfer since Veron.

Adriano & Zlatan will probably enjoy a competition on who can hit the ball to row Z the most next season. :lol:

Motherf*cking great.

I know this is old, but damn... Archives are a bitch!

achilles
18 Sep 08, 21:03
I don't get how these articles are saying he's failed to live up to expectations in the CL. He was incredible during the group stage last year with 5 goals in those games. He wasn't even bad against Liverpool. The whole team was terrible and he made chances for Cruz when he did get the ball.

What the article was doing was appealing to EPL fans.

They watched two Inter games last season, so they must know what they are talking about.

And what they are talking about is how 'over-rated' Zlatan is... So therefore Zlatan, not Rooney, must be over-rated.

Mind-boggling, just like when English fans were talking about the quality of English football right after the Champions League final, but right before the Euros England were 'strangely' absent from!!!

Rashid
18 Sep 08, 23:59
are you an old member who came back? ur posts sound familiar..

I agree with everything you just said.

Been a regular vistor on the forums for years, always liked to read wat other interista's thought but certain topics but kept my opinons to myself :P and yeah posted a few times to relieve stress (trying not throw myself off a building at certain times over the yrs.) But didn't post often, so doubt u'll rembeber me...

Luka, agree he hit a patch of form last season in terms of scoring, but no where near fulfilling the potential he shows. If he were more clinical last season he wud've past the 20 goal mark b4 his injury considering the chances wasted (yeah he can't score every 1 but thats not what i'm saying.)

The problem i think with ibra is cuz he's a genious he loves to score beautiful goals that u'll remember for a long time instead of scrappy goals ala vieri trezeguet etc. (i'm speaking in general terms and not one or two or 5 occasions over the past 2 years so i sincerely hope i don't get a wise ass blurting out in excitement "he did against....:finger:)

I understand they're completely different players and the comparisons aren't fair but ibra gets into positions where if he'd score (especially 1v1) he wud tally atleast 20 league goals per season which is yet to happen in Serie A for the past 4 seasons abd that to me is wat is holding him bk from being the worthy successor of maradona's 'il genio'...

oh, and btw i vote il genio ;)

Bessi
19 Sep 08, 10:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzqh-7xRpG4
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzqh-7xRpG4)

J zanetti
19 Sep 08, 10:27
Agree Luka, Ibra's finishing last season was actually quite good and it improved immensly, especially his longshots were superb. What he really, really still needs to work on though, is his one on one's.
I would in fact go one step further and say him and Cruz are the 2 who possibly have the highest ratio of shots on target. So I don't understand the discussion about him being a mediocre finisher!! :rolleyes:

Nyall
19 Sep 08, 11:22
I would in fact go one step further and say him and Cruz are the 2 who possibly have the highest ratio of shots on target. So I don't understand the discussion about him being a mediocre finisher!! :rolleyes:

Ibra will miss 1on1 with the goal but will score a screamer from 40 feet. Ibra is unique but his finishing is mediocre in my eyes. Were he to score at least half of his 1 on 1's he would easily be Serie A's top scorer.

Suneet
19 Sep 08, 11:31
Good point Rashid. Ibra can be a good finisher, but he loves to score the beautiful ones. Ibra will get better when he realises in 2 years, theres not much time to score the beautiful ones..

Bessi
19 Sep 08, 20:04
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3889/ibrafl0.jpg

Rashid
19 Sep 08, 23:50
I would in fact go one step further and say him and Cruz are the 2 who possibly have the highest ratio of shots on target. So I don't understand the discussion about him being a mediocre finisher!! :rolleyes:

Yeah ur right, cuz the highest ratio of shots on target is wht were talking about :rolleyes:

snake
20 Sep 08, 02:06
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3889/ibrafl0.jpg

Imagine the moves he can put himself into for his wife...

Nyall
20 Sep 08, 03:44
Whoa! A simply touch and Zlatan could have been put for the season.

lonewolf19
20 Sep 08, 05:10
oh shit. I hope that doesnt fark up his knee again.
I would not be able to stand for month if I did that :lol:

Handoyo
20 Sep 08, 08:49
You won't be able to do that in the first place. :lol:

Bessi
20 Sep 08, 08:58
Imagine the moves he can put himself into for his wife...
:lol:. I can't imagine :D

J zanetti
20 Sep 08, 09:44
Yeah ur right, cuz the highest ratio of shots on target is wht were talking about :rolleyes:
Though there is always room for improvement he will never be a clinical finisher like Crespo or a poacher like Bobo.
I also still think considering what he offers to the team his finishing (even when you focus on his 1 on 1) is good enough. At least I can’t recall too many if any 1 on 1 misses from his side. I guess people either have a hell of a memory or are jotting down every step he takes in each game (which isn’t bad)! ;)

Handoyo
20 Sep 08, 10:40
I don't think it's even possible for Ibra to have those Crespo/Vieri qualities anyway. He'd have to sacrifice his current Ibra qualities/playing style to achieve the poacher ones and that would be a tragedy. I really do hope he improves his 1 v 1. Anyone recall him missing the 1 v 1 chance just seconds before the Scudetto-sealing goal last season? (The 2nd goal) He needs to think quickly and not too much thinking and finish it as soon as possible ala the goal against Empoli in 06/07 away.

Ilkinio
20 Sep 08, 12:56
Only 2 1on1s that i will never forget. Home game against Pool. Ibra and Cruz missed 4 golden chances... ouch.

Nyall
20 Sep 08, 14:29
Ibra has missed some incredible 1on1s already.

Rimpel
20 Sep 08, 18:03
Ibra has missed some incredible 1on1s already.

He's also scored most of our goals for two seasons now.

Nyall
20 Sep 08, 18:07
He's also scored most of our goals for two seasons now.

Wrong. In his first season Crespo was our top scorer, and in his second one he was our top scorer but he didn't score MOST of our goals.

Rimpel
20 Sep 08, 18:14
Wrong. In his first season Crespo was our top scorer, and in his second one he was our top scorer but he didn't score MOST of our goals.


Edit: ops, yes I guess I was wrong about 2006/2007. But he did score the most goals last season, when we faced the most difficult opposition. But in total for the two seasons, yes he's scored most of our goals.

Luka
20 Sep 08, 18:27
It actually doesn't matter if Ibra scores a lot, as it is not the area where he affects the team the most.

As far as I'm concerned he can easily score 10 goals in a season, as far, as being the instrumental part of our gameplay, and leading us to say CL glory.

Nyall
20 Sep 08, 20:03
Edit: ops, yes I guess I was wrong about 2006/2007. But he did score the most goals last season, when we faced the most difficult opposition. But in total for the two seasons, yes he's scored most of our goals.

Wrong again. Ibra was our TOP scorer he did NOT score MOST of our goals. If he were to do that then he alone would need to score like 40 goals.

Handoyo
20 Sep 08, 21:36
:lol: Go quarrel over some English words outside in the courtyard boys. :D

Azzkikr
21 Sep 08, 09:11
It actually doesn't matter if Ibra scores a lot, as it is not the area where he affects the team the most.

As far as I'm concerned he can easily score 10 goals in a season, as far, as being the instrumental part of our gameplay, and leading us to say CL glory.

So just because he is influencial in the attacking play he is allowed to miss easy chances?

Great thinking there buddie, simply great.

He might be a big part of our attacking play, but he also gets more chances at goal anyone else in the team. He NEEDS to improve, arguing about this is ridiculous, its not enough that he is only clinical on penalties.

But this is just another reason why we need a striker with him in attack, so he has to option to play the ball instead of finishing himself.

Hasan
21 Sep 08, 09:54
Ibra isn't clinical striker and he will never be. He's not Bobo Vieri who will shot from every possible position, he will always try to find his teammate if is possible so I would agree with Azz here, he needs someone with him in attack.

Luka
21 Sep 08, 10:14
That was hypothetiacal. I wouldn't be more happy, if Ibra would have 1:1 goal/chance ratio. But the team is more important than one player, and it is sad you(that is not ofcourse directed to Hasan's post) didn't catch that.

I will go even further. If Ibra will help the team to win CL, Scudetto and Coppa Italia, he can score 0 goals in a season, as far as I'm concerned.

Again, that was just hypothetical situation.

Going back to the point, I agree with many of you who have said, it is part of who Ibra is, and if he would score those "easy" goals the "easy" way, he would in the same time loose part of the way he is as a footballer and I don't want that.

Chasing this dream, that Ibra will be some day still the same player he is today, and a hybryd of Crespo, Batigol and Vieri is just a waste of time. Maybe when he is 35, and he won't be able to do all those tricks, he will then play with more of his experience, and score those easy goals, but I don't believe this time will come soon.

A.l.i
21 Sep 08, 12:01
Luka, Ibra is a striker. Its only we Interisti who judge him on his influence on our attack, the rest of the world will judge him on his amount of goals scored. He has got to start converting those chances as in this new system of ours, he will get more and more of these game by game.

I find it absurd when people say that Ibra doesn't need to score goals when he can assist. Ibra will keep on benefiting the team through his vision but its the goals that will truly satisfy all football pundits, fans and above all Ibra himself.

Luka
21 Sep 08, 12:59
Luka, Ibra is a striker. Its only we Interisti who judge him on his influence on our attack, the rest of the world will judge him on his amount of goals scored.

I agree there are some ignorants in the world, but it's not worth to discuss with them in the first place, while there are many fans out there who are inteligent and read the game well, and know there are couple of "kinds" of forwards out there.

Ibra is a striker, and should score goals. I agree, that is a fact. But he is so much more than a striker. And most of all, he isn't a typical 9, he is supporting striker, second striker. His job is not only to score goals, and we should rate him by this fact(not only scoring goals). If Crespo will make 2 assists, but won't score in 2 games, people won't be too happy, that's because he is typical 9, he should score goals.

And one more thing. Rooney scores very few goals(if we keep in mind he is striker), but Man Utd fans know he has many duties on the field, not only involving scoring goals. As long as he is doing what he should, they are all happy, even if he won't score goals.

It's only here, that one guy is keeping saying this, that Ibra has to improve his scoring to be considered great or whatever. If Ibra remained the same guy, and also become a super efficient striker, he would be a phenomenon on the scale of all football history, not only now. I'm not saying I wouldn't like that. I would love that. But Ibra is already a phenomenon to me, even that he doesn't score as many goals as I, or we would like.

And Ibra's not scoring is emphasised now, because he was playing as lone striker as of recently. If Adri will be this guy(that I hope for), mark my words, it won't be as "easy" to point out.

J zanetti
21 Sep 08, 17:00
I hope our statisticians made note of Ibra’s goal which resulted from a one on one! ;)

Adam
21 Sep 08, 17:18
Yup, it was a good finish too. Cool, calm and unsavable. Keeper should of tried to shinrk Ibra's space by closing in on him though.

Rimpel
21 Sep 08, 17:19
Wrong again. Ibra was our TOP scorer he did NOT score MOST of our goals. If he were to do that then he alone would need to score like 40 goals.
Go cry some more mate:rolleyes: I'm pretty sure you understood what I meant.

JohnTheBaptist
21 Sep 08, 17:57
It's okay with me as long as he creates something from nothing like he did in Pana` match. And another thing that i saw... he is more quiet now, he doesn't protest and is keeping his head cool. Bravo

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love you sweeddish-booosnian-bleah-martian-whaever dude.

Stefan
21 Sep 08, 18:02
Farina doesn't love ibra according to mou.


"I'm very pleased but we need to work with continuity to get where I want us to get to. Ibrahimovic wants to be the best in the world and we all want this, but if he wants this he needs to play every game. He has played two brilliant matches in three days. Ibra was phenomenal because I don't think (match referee) Mr Farina is in love with him, and he showed good self control, and this is another very important thing for me.

lonewolf19
22 Sep 08, 07:02
Farina doesn't love ibra according to mou.

In fact, I think Farina does not like Inter period. Did you see how he come and complain about Maicon's Brazilian dance with Mancini after he score our second goal?:frustrat:

Suneet
22 Sep 08, 17:19
to be honest, both teams werent be particularly praising this guy's refereeing. That means he is a poor ref.

IBRA-INTER-1LOVE
28 Sep 08, 01:21
Good luck ibra

i hope u will score a gole or maybe 2 tomorrow haha

>> ibra is the best <<