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Marcello
02 Jun 08, 05:59
Euro 2004 Champions Greece find themselves on familiar territory, with Spain and Russia ready to prove their worth. Sweden is also joining in on the fun, in what will be an intriguing group.

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Tuesday 10 June 2008
7 Grp D Spain v Russia Innsbruck - Tivoli Neu
8 Grp D Greece v Sweden Salzburg - EM Stadion Wals-Siezenheim

Saturday 14 June 2008
15 Grp D Sweden v Spain Innsbruck - Tivoli Neu
16 Grp D Greece v Russia Salzburg - EM Stadion Wals-Siezenheim

Wednesday 18 June 2008
23 Grp D Greece v Spain Salzburg - EM Stadion Wals-Siezenheim
24 Grp D Russia v Sweden Innsbruck - Tivoli Neu


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Marcello
02 Jun 08, 06:03
Spain Squad
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Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina (Liverpool), Andres Palop (Sevilla)

Defenders: Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Joan Capdevila (Villarreal), Raul Albiol (Valencia), Carles Puyol (Barcelona), Carlos Marchena (Valencia), Fernando Navarro (Real Mallorca), Alvaro Arbeloa (Liverpool), Juanito (Real Betis)

Midfielders: Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Xavi (Barcelona), David Silva (Valencia), Santi Cazorla (Villarreal), Xabi Alonso (Liverpool), Ruben de la Red (Getafe), Marcos Senna (Villarreal)

Forwards: David Villa (Valencia), Daniel Guiza (Real Mallorca), Sergio Garcia (Real Zaragoza), Fernando Torres (Liverpool)

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Russian Squad

Goalkeepers: Igor Akinfeev (PFC CSKA Moskva), Vladimir Gabulov (FC Amkar Perm), Vyacheslav Malafeev (FC Zenit St. Petersburg).

Defenders: Aleksandr Anyukov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Aleksei Berezutski (PFC CSKA Moskva), Vasili Berezutski (PFC CSKA Moskva), Sergei Ignashevich (PFC CSKA Moskva), Denis Kolodin (FC Dinamo Moskva), Roman Shirokov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Renat Yanbayev (FC Lokomotiv Moskva).

Midfielders: Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (FC Lokomotiv Moskva), Dmitri Torbinskiy (FC Lokomotiv Moskva), Vladimir Bystrov (FC Spartak Moskva), Aleksandr Pavlenko (FC Spartak Moskva), Yuri Zhirkov (PFC CSKA Moskva), Konstantin Zyrianov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Igor Semshov (FC Dinamo Moskva), Oleg Ivanov (FC Krylya Sovetov Samara), Sergei Semak (FC Rubin Kazan).

Forwards: Roman Adamov (FC Moskva), Roman Pavlyuchenko (FC Spartak Moskva), Dmitri Sychev (FC Lokomotiv Moskva), Pavel Pogrebnyak (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Andrei Arshavin (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Ivan Saenko (1. FC Nürnberg).
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Sweden Squad

Goalkeepers: Andreas Isaksson (Manchester City), Rami Shaaban (Hammarby), Johan Wiland (Elfsborg Boras).

Defenders: Olof Mellberg (Aston Villa), Petter Hansson (Stade Rennes), Mikael Nilsson (Panathinaikos), Niclas Alexandersson (IFK Gothenburg), Andreas Granqvist (Helsingborgs IF), Daniel Majstorovic (FC Basel), Fredrik Stoor (Rosenborg), Mikael Dorsin (CFR Cluj).

Midfielders: Tobias Linderoth (Galatasaray), Daniel Andersson (Malmö), Anders Svensson (Elfsborg Boras), Kim Kallström (Olympique Lyon), Christian Wilhelmsson (Deportivo la Coruña), Fredrik Ljungberg (West Ham United), Sebastian Larsson (Birmingham City).

Attackers: Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Inter Milan), Johan Elmander (Toulouse), Marcus Allbäck (FC Kopenhagen), Markus Rosenberg (Werder Bremen), Henrik Larsson (Helsingborgs IF).


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Greece Squad

Goalkeepers:
1. A.Nikopolidis (Olympiakos) - GK
2. Kostas Chalkias (Aris) - GK

Defense:
4. G. Seitaridis (Atletico Madrid) - RWB
5. V. Torosidis (Olympiakos) - RWB
6. T. Dellas (AEK) - CD
7. S. Kyrgiakos (Eintracht F.) - CD
8. P. Antzas (Olympiakos) - CD
9. Y. Goumas (Panathinaikos) - CD
10. L. Vyntra (Panathinaikos) - LB
11. N. Spyropoulos (Panathinaikos) - LWB

Midfield:
12. A. Basinas (Mallorca) - DCM
13. A. Tziolis (Panathinaikos) - DCM
14. C. Patsatzoglou (Olympiakos) - RDM
15. K. Katsouranis (Benfica) - CM
16. G. Karagounis (Panathinaikos) - ACM
17. S. Giannakopoulos (Bolton W.) - RW

Attack:
18. A. Charisteas (Nuernberg) - RF
19. D. Salpingidis (Panathinaikos) - RF
20. I. Amanatidis (Eintracht F.) - LF
21. N. Lymberopoulos (AEK) - CF
22. G. Samaras (Manchester City/Celtic FC) - ST
23. T. Gekas (B. Leverkusen) - ST

brehme1989
02 Jun 08, 10:28
This is the hardest group for me.
I can't see Greece getting through, Sweden I have for granted and then we have Hiddink's Russia and Spain.

Russia and Sweden for me.
Although I believe that if Spain goes through the group they'll win it

lonewolf19
02 Jun 08, 16:46
Spain n Sweden coz Ibra =)

La Bling
02 Jun 08, 19:39
The more obvious pick would be Spain and Sweden, but you never know in Euro.

mike_inter
05 Jun 08, 14:45
--------------Nikopolidis----------------
-Seitaridis--Kyrgiakos--Dellas--Torosidis
--Karagounis--Katsouranis--Basinas
-----Amanatidis---Charisteas
-------------Gekas-----------

What I predict as my country's most probable formation..

Viva la Grecia===>Campione Euro2004

Bes
05 Jun 08, 21:30
Spain and Sweden it's for sure.
It was a suprise by Greece last Euro. Not a good work but a suprise.

brehme1989
05 Jun 08, 21:55
Why do you write HIDDINK's Russia off? ;)

Pajo
09 Jun 08, 20:44
FOrza Sweden and Russia...

I don't believe Russia can win, but I do hope so... I love their style, Arshavin is beast... And their defense imo is one of the best in the world...

Cro Nerazzurro
09 Jun 08, 22:20
Finally!!!

FORZA HELLAS!

I know they are outsiders, all 3 teams in group have better chances and better individual palyers, but WE:) are still European champions, so be aware:) Greece wont give up easily!

Ziyad
10 Jun 08, 06:04
I will be supporting our guys in Karagounis and IbraCadabra !!!

Hope they suprise everyone..I wouldnt mind Russia going through too..

brehme1989
10 Jun 08, 08:09
It will be tough for Greece.

Russia will not have Arshavin for the first 2 games.
Sweden is a bit of an awkward team.
Spain may somehow surprise us and get disqualified again.

On paper it doesn't seem so tough, but for me, it's the toughest group.
People say it's Group C, but it's just the best teams there, not the most complicated situations. And already Holland has beaten Italy 3-0. I can't see Spain doing that.


Anyway, I want Greece to get through, I'll be a bit disappointed to see them not get through, but I'm realistic and I know that we have limited chances against a mighty Spain, Hiddink's Russia and Zlatan's Sweden. I believe that all four teams can go far in this competition, and besides Group C, I can't say this about the other two groups ;)

tonyloo
10 Jun 08, 09:30
I have a feeling Greece will target Ibra's knee. That's how they play.

Cro Nerazzurro
10 Jun 08, 10:05
I thought Ibra wont play....?

Nevermind, Zorba and Greece, Let's go!!!!

Mustafa
10 Jun 08, 10:22
Spain and Sweden will qualify to the quarter-finals. I think it will be Spain's EURO.

brehme1989
10 Jun 08, 13:54
I have a feeling Greece will target Ibra's knee. That's how they play.

Huh??? What are you talking about?

Only 2 players in that are going to play are "dirty", Kirgiakos and Torosidis. Probably Kirgiakos will try to man mark Zlatan, but I doubt he'd aim at his knee. Only if he humiliates him:P

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 14:21
FORZA HELLADARA!!!..

My country was awlays being seen as an outsider in national football competitions but we use to surprise everyone with our performance..



--------------Nikopolidis----------------
-Seitaridis--Kyrgiakos--Dellas--Torosidis---
--Karagounis--Katsouranis--Basinas---
-----Amanatidis---Charisteas--
-------------Gekas-----------


They only player I don't like in our lineup is Dellas but our coach seems to trust experienced players..
Papastathopoulos of AEK Athens is a great talent but unfortunately didn't make it for the Euro..

PS:Σηκωσε το το τιμημενο δεν μπορω δεν μπορω να περιμενω..;)

lonewolf19
10 Jun 08, 16:02
Good luck to Spain

lonewolf19
10 Jun 08, 16:24
Superb move by Spain. 1-0
Great duel by Torres and a easy finish for Villa

Adam
10 Jun 08, 16:36
So much space for both teams makes for an entertaining match. Even though Spain is dominating Russia are looking good aswell. Something tells me Sweden will finish last in this group.

Lagerbäck is just too defensive minded and will never play our younger more skilled players. If he did that we might actually have a shot of a semifinal.

lonewolf19
10 Jun 08, 16:48
Villa complete the double.
Great pass and vision from Iniesta
2-0 Spain

Handoyo
10 Jun 08, 16:49
What a second goal by Spain!

After Holland's match yesterday, it seems obvious that counter attack football is in fashion. :P I personally adore that tactic and hopefully so will Jose. :)

zip
10 Jun 08, 16:59
Great, Villa !

scutzon
10 Jun 08, 17:06
Nice two goals for Villa, especially the second one. I feel bad for Russia though. I thought they played awesome for the first 20 minutes, before Villa scored. Their short passing and movement off the ball were very nice.

They actually looked better than Italy yesterday...

brehme1989
10 Jun 08, 17:30
I don't like Charisteas from Greece, and I'd also prefer Papastathopoulos. He's only 20, but he's amongst the best Greek defenders.

Russia is a good squad, they don't have Arshavin and Pogrebnyak today, and they stood well in the first half. They can't turn things round though

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 17:31
Hattrick Villa, what a striker.

lonewolf19
10 Jun 08, 17:35
omg amazing Villa hat trick

time to sub him off and save for next match

Principe
10 Jun 08, 17:35
Villa is the definition of a complete striker he has amazing finishing....positions himself very well and can create chances on his own.....what a striker very very impressed by his performance he has won a fan today

Principe
10 Jun 08, 17:38
Amazing balance...he wasn't pushed around and didn't just throw himself and ask for a penalty or get easily pushed off

Alex de Large
10 Jun 08, 17:39
Villa proving again that he is better than the over rateds by madrid media: torres / raul.

Principe
10 Jun 08, 17:45
neither Torres nor Raul are over rated both are class strikers (Raul proved that i the UCL) but at the moment Villa is definetely better than both but i think his style is different than Torres but still as a striker I'd like to have Villa on y team if this is how he performs

Principe
10 Jun 08, 17:48
What a play by villa and spain...

Adam
10 Jun 08, 17:54
He wasn't that impressive. He did very good but I wasn't blown away. A lot of goals but nothing special. The first two goals are were basicly just roll them into empty net, any striker or midfielder for that matter would score those. The third one was very nice though, he feinted the defencer well and fooled the keeper the wrong way. Everyone will name him as the best player so far but for me Deco has been the best.

Spain are very impressive, but Russia's non-existant defence certainly helped a lot.

The_Emperor
10 Jun 08, 17:55
Impressive Spain. Very entertaining game, although the Italy- Holland game is still my favourite so far.

lonewolf19
10 Jun 08, 17:56
another nice counter from Spain.
Spain looks on cruise for Euro 2008

Luka
10 Jun 08, 17:58
Villa is the definition of a complete striker
Villa is obviously a great striker, but I wouldn't call him complete.

He has something he lacks... and that is height -> scoring with his head.

He is a complete striker for spanish league, that's certain, because in Spain you play short, not many crossings, and instead many direct through passes.

I don't think he would be as deadly in english and italian league, especialy english.

Alex de Large
10 Jun 08, 18:00
Spain always starts fine and finish choking, same story LOL.


Is Ibrahimovic fit for tonight game?

Principe
10 Jun 08, 18:01
He wasn't that impressive. He did very good but I wasn't blown away. A lot of goals but nothing special. The first two goals are were basicly just roll them into empty net, any striker or midfielder for that matter would score those. The third one was very nice though, he feinted the defencer well and fooled the keeper the wrong way. Everyone will name him as the best player so far but for me Deco has been the best.

Spain are very impressive, but Russia's non-existant defence certainly helped a lot.

I have seen the best strikers mess up that close in front of the goal (The second Villa scored) I was really impressed by his movement on and off the ball and he doesn't do any of that fancy sh*t that we see strikers nowadays attempt...he scored on his chances didn't mess up at all unlike Toni...as for best player in the tournament so far mine is Van Bronkhorst

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 18:04
You dont need to be tall or good with your head to be a deadly striker...

The best part about Villa is his finishing really. The first two goals might have seemed easy, but aside from Cruz on a good day, all our strikers would most likely have ballooned those chances...

After a season of eye sorring shooting from our pathetic striking force its really refreshing to watch someone who good finishing for a change.

Adam
10 Jun 08, 18:18
Villa is obviously a great striker, but I wouldn't call him complete.

He has something he lacks... and that is height -> scoring with his head.

He is a complete striker for spanish league, that's certain, because in Spain you play short, not many crossings, and instead many direct through passes.

I don't think he would be as deadly in english and italian league, especialy english.

Don't forget strength and ball holding abilities, which is huge in today's football.;)

Principe
10 Jun 08, 18:19
Don't forget strength and ball holding abilities, which is huge in today's football.

He holds the ball really impressively and doesn't get pushed off the ball too easily and doesn't throw himself like many strikers would...

Mustafa
10 Jun 08, 18:21
What a performance from Spain. I said before the EURO that Spain will probably win it, looks like my pridiction may become correct. Should have placed a bet on Spain.

Adam
10 Jun 08, 18:21
He holds the ball really impressively and doesn't get pushed off the ball too easily and doesn't throw himself like many strikers would...

On the wing perhaps, with one defender hounding him, but have you seen him in the middle of the park with two-three defenders on him. He's nothing special in that department really.

Principe
10 Jun 08, 18:22
and i agree with Azz this season we saw astonishing finishing from our strikers i really don't think our strikers would have scored that second goal (i think Cruz and Balotelli would have and maybe Zlatan) but that 3rd goal Cruz wouldn't have been able to beat that defender like that...

Adam
10 Jun 08, 18:28
and i agree with Azz this season we saw astonishing finishing from our strikers i really don't think our strikers would have scored that second goal (i think Cruz and Balotelli would have and maybe Zlatan) but that 3rd goal Cruz wouldn't have been able to beat that defender like that...

I disagree, with the goals we have seen from our forwards this year I think it's ridiculous to claim our forwards wouldn't be able to do the same on their day. Do you think Villa beats his man and scores all the time? NO, neither does our forwards. Just look at Zlatan vs Sampdoria and Cska, Cruz vs Roma and vs Milan, Suazo vs Catania, Balotelli vs Atalanta, I think it was, and so on.

And the second goal most of our forwards would score at least 80% of the time. There's numerous examples of our forwards bagging the little chances they were given, just watch some match highlights.

Principe
10 Jun 08, 18:35
maybe i need to look back at the past season as it left somewhat a bitter taste even after the celebrations...

Adam
10 Jun 08, 18:39
Anyways, I agree with you that Villa is class, no doubt about it. But a hatrick doesn't make a player Maradona and all too often people on this forum go berserk after a player has a great game. It's just annoying to read 10 comments in a row saying that we should get a player because he had a great game. That didn't happen this time but it was on the way.


Anyways, time for Sweden! Even though I'll doubt we will do well Forza Svezia! Let's conquer the Greeks!

Principe
10 Jun 08, 18:56
C'mon Zlatan

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 19:35
Greece are a fucking disgrace to the game.

They should thrown out and banned from future competitions untill they start playing something that even remotely looks like football.

:yuck: Playing the ball around 20 times among their defenders...

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 19:36
What a performance from Spain. I said before the EURO that Spain will probably win it, looks like my pridiction may become correct. Should have placed a bet on Spain.

It looks like that at every single Euro/world cup, but they always choke in the end.

Pajo
10 Jun 08, 19:36
Villa is one of the best strikers atm, if not the best... I'm not saying this because the hattrick today, but I have venn alsaways saying that...

As for the Freece - Sweden game, man, the Greeks are playing sooo dirty...

Adam
10 Jun 08, 19:36
What a boring first half. We're doing nothing but longballs to Zlatan and the Greeks don't seem to have any intetion of winning the match as they spend more time passing it amongst their defenders. Also they are playing dirty as Ibra has been fouled several times brutally and they got away with it.

Ljungberg has been atrocious and needs to be changed for Larsson in the second.

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 19:39
The ref is a joke as well.

Clearly favouring the greeks in pretty much every situation.

Mustafa
10 Jun 08, 19:40
Greece are a fucking disgrace to the game.

They should thrown out and banned from future competitions untill they start playing something that even remotely looks like football.

:yuck: Playing the ball around 20 times among their defenders...

...and they're defending Champions :)

P.S. No offence to Greek supporters.

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 19:43
Satisfactory game by my country till now..

Very careful on defense and we're trying to take advantage of every space..

Kyrgiakos is marking Zlatan exceptionaly and Charisteas a constant danger for Sweden's defence..

The great defensive tactics made Greece European champion and Otto seems to trust that formation..

Poor game by Torosidis and Gekas(so alone up front)..

Viva la Grecia..

Mustafa
10 Jun 08, 19:44
It looks like that at every single Euro/world cup, but they always choke in the end.

From what I remember they weren't really good at the previous tournaments, especially in the opening games. 98: Nigeria 3-2 Spain for example, but then Spain 6-1 Bulgaria. EURO 2004 won against Russia 2:1, drew with Greece and the lost to Portugal. I belive they just don't have consistancy.

But I still have the feeling they will do really good this time, probable even till the Final.

Pajo
10 Jun 08, 19:46
Satisfactory game by my country till now..
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Satisfactory?? :rollani:

Only not conceding a goal might be satisfactory...

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 19:49
Satisfactory??

Only not conceding a goal might be satisfactory...

This is how my country uses to play and what made her European Champion..

If you don't like the game,don't watch it and do something else..

Principe
10 Jun 08, 19:50
Satisfactory game by my country till now..

Very careful on defense and we're trying to take advantage of every space..

Kyrgiakos is marking Zlatan exceptionaly and Charisteas a constant danger for Sweden's defence..

The great defensive tactics made Greece European champion and Otto seems to trust that formation..

Poor game by Torosidis and Gekas(so alone up front)..

Viva la Grecia..

No way that's satisfactory man......that's the most boring style of football ever its putting me to sleep and i don't mind defending but not just parking the freakin bus and passing a trillion times between the defenders...

Pajo
10 Jun 08, 19:50
Naah, i am watching every game...:P

And yeah ,i know Greece always plays defensivelly, but this is too much man, be realistic... 50 short passes between the 4 players in the defence, that's not play...
And you guys are playing very dirty...

Principe
10 Jun 08, 19:52
why didn't he cross it into the box.....wasted chance..

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 19:59
Very good defending by Kyrgiakos..

I'll repeat that again..

Apart from that heading Zlatan isn't a danger till now..

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 20:04
Yellow card again..

Torosidis,Seitaridis and Charisteas till now..

Too many..

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 20:08
Very good chance from Della's cross..

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 20:09
oh no..

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 20:10
Great goal by Zlatan..

Excellent shot..

1-0 for Sweden..

Principe
10 Jun 08, 20:11
YESSSSSSSSSSS.....now greece is forced to change their style amaaaaaazing strike....ibracadabra

Alex de Large
10 Jun 08, 20:15
zlatan.....zlatan......ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC !

Adam
10 Jun 08, 20:16
What a fckin goal by Ibra! I knew he would save us! And now second goal by Hansson! hahahahaha! Yeaaaaah!!!

I've suffered for 65 minutes now I'm so happy!

Ljungberg should of scored in the sequence before though. Now let's get Elmander scoring too!


P.s and this gos back exactly to what I've been saying, Zlatan has a killer shot he just needs to use it more. It took him 65 minutes before he even tried a shot on goal.

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 20:16
incredible stupidness...

2-0..

3 Greek players unable to throw the ball away,beaten by a lone Swedish player..

Too difficult now..

Principe
10 Jun 08, 20:32
now next game is a must win so i think they'll change their style to what they have right now...

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 20:36
Greece are a complete farce....

Although delighted to see them lose, it should only have been with one goal and i would have won some money.... Oh well atleast i won on zlatan being first goal scorer, guess you cant have it all...

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 20:37
Final score 2-0..

Congrats to XL for his country's deserved victory..

Time for Otto to reconsider his tactics..

We Greeks are capable of the best and the worst..

Hope for a much better next game even though it's very difficult for us to qualify now..

But we never give up..

Adam
10 Jun 08, 20:41
Final score 2-0..

Congrats to XL for his country's deserved victory..

Time for Otto to reconsider his tactics..

We Greeks are capable of the best and the worst..

Hope for a much better next game even though it's very difficult for us to qualify now..

But we never give up..

Thx man.:) You're a class act mate.

I think even though both teams were defensive minded we did control the play and dominated most of the match so it was deserved, as you say. 1-0 victory would of been more representative of the match though. And you guys are not out yet, especially not since you face Russia next and you will have lots of space to counter attack.

The_Emperor
10 Jun 08, 20:46
YEAAAAAAAAAH ZLATAAAAAAAAAN. Finally after 2 years he scores for Sweden :D

Sassuolu
10 Jun 08, 20:47
CHE GOLLL ZLATANNNNNN!!

What a strike

Pajo
10 Jun 08, 20:48
Nice game by Sweden... Im glad Ibra socer, Im glad Sweden won...

And mike, yeah, Otto really needs to reconsider his tactics, i told you it was too defensivelly...

Luka
10 Jun 08, 21:02
You dont need to be tall or good with your head to be a deadly striker...

Deadly... I haven't said he isn't deadly. I said he isn't complete, as someone suggested. Adriano at his prime wasn't even complete(right foot), but he was close, definetly closer to that definition than Villa.

Villa probably, would miss many goals that Cruz and Hernan scored from crosses, and that was a lot, because english and italian teams play a lot with wings, unlike spanish ones, where they try mostly 1 on 1's rather then cross. Just because there is usually nobody to finish them off.

So again... Villa is a deady striker, is a great striker, is a perfect for a spanish league, but he isn't complete, no way. And I'm eager to see him outside spanish league so we can see how much he is really worth.

ps. So what Azz... you think we should wait for a 1, or 2 of these goals of Zlatan before we sell him? Surely, the price then would rise up by couple of milions.

mike_inter
10 Jun 08, 21:02
True Pajo,Otto believes that Euro2004 hasn't finished yet and he continues playing he's silly defence-minded tactics..
He thinks strong defence is the only key for a success..
But I'll repeat at first half Sweden didn't create us many problems..
Zlatan only needed a single strike to prove his class..

Thanks for the encouraging words XL..

Hasan
10 Jun 08, 21:07
I understand Yuko, he feels like Greek but "Cro"?

Croatia always played nice, technical football and that guy from Croatia cheering for bigest discrace of european football EVER. I am so happy that Sweden won and that Ibra is goalscorer.

Jimmy
10 Jun 08, 21:18
For my fellow countrymen, here's the matchraport for Greece-Sweden (http://www.fotbollsem08.se/matchrapporter.php?id=8)

Azzkikr
10 Jun 08, 21:22
Villa probably, would miss many goals that Cruz and Hernan scored from crosses, and that was a lot, because english and italian teams play a lot with wings, unlike spanish ones, where they try mostly 1 on 1's rather then cross. Just because there is usually nobody to finish them off.

He would never get these chances as he isnt that type of target man.


So again... Villa is a deady striker, is a great striker, is a perfect for a spanish league, but he isn't complete, no way. And I'm eager to see him outside spanish league so we can see how much he is really worth.

He is proving himself at International level, thats enough for me. If it works in the spanish league and at International level it will work anywhere, he will obviously never be a great header, but he has so many other qualities thats ridiculous to question him because he isnt 2m tall.

Some of the greatest forwards in the last 20 years have been attrocious headers, romario, ronaldo, del piero in his prime ect ect

Fact is that we have no striker in the squad who is as accomplished at his strong sides and clinical infront of goal. He would be a starter at any team in the world.


ps. So what Azz... you think we should wait for a 1, or 2 of these goals of Zlatan before we sell him? Surely, the price then would rise up by couple of milions.

I assume this is some poor attempt to be funny, so ill play along. Why would it? Even stankovic can score screamers, but thats hardly makes him more valuable....

Cro Nerazzurro
10 Jun 08, 23:48
FuCKING SHIT! Motherfucking Sweden:)
jokes

NOT!
FUCKING SHIT!!!!

They didnt deserve it, and Greece didnt play badly!!
It was poor offensive display, but so fucking what?
Why didnt Sweden ever attack their defenders!
Hellas did, and almost scored like that if Karagounis was bit composured.
Sweden couldnt do shit till magnificat Ibra goal...While Greece defended everything superbly ,and made some chances actually.
Charisteas, Karagounis...

I am mad, cause of stupid Croatian commentarys, one of them Igor Šimac. Fucking Shit!

HELLAS ON TOP OF THE WORLD!

lonewolf19
11 Jun 08, 00:07
Hey guys, anyone know where we can watch some goal replays?

Alex de Large
11 Jun 08, 01:10
Hey guys, anyone know where we can watch some goal replays?

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5qgvs&related=1

0-1 Ibrahimovic (65')

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5qgzx&related=1

0-2 Hansson (70')


for more goals:
http://www.firulillo.com/foro/index.php?topic=8284.0

lonewolf19
11 Jun 08, 01:25
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5qgvs&related=1

0-1 Ibrahimovic (65')

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5qgzx&related=1

0-2 Hansson (70')


for more goals:
http://www.firulillo.com/foro/index.php?topic=8284.0

cool thanks a lot Alex =)

Marcello
11 Jun 08, 02:16
Grande Ibra what a striketo strike the ball like that and go in the way it did is really remakable

NimAraya
11 Jun 08, 03:56
What a goal! What a Shot! Fly Eagle Fly!!!

Handoyo
11 Jun 08, 05:48
Surely the goal of the tournament thus far! Goal drought what? :lala:

Luka
11 Jun 08, 06:15
He is proving himself at International level, thats enough for me. If it works in the spanish league and at International level it will work anywhere, he will obviously never be a great header, but he has so many other qualities thats ridiculous to question him because he isnt 2m tall.

International level means just better opposition, that's it. But spaniards play the same type of football, as they mostly play in spanish league, so that is poor argument. There is a reason why Veron when in his prime at Lazio was hailed as great, great playmaker, and what he did in Man Utd? Different type of football, needs a little different characteristics.

Choppin Onions
11 Jun 08, 06:53
Grande Ibra. Superb goal and a deserved one because the Swedes were clearly the better team. Can't wait for the Spain-Sweden game. :drool:

lonewolf19
11 Jun 08, 07:27
Grande Ibra. Superb goal and a deserved one because the Swedes were clearly the better team. Can't wait for the Spain-Sweden game. :drool:

Ibra vs Villa
Man, one day I hope we can see these two partnering in forward for us. Only happen in FM. haha

Mustafa
11 Jun 08, 08:52
Ibra vs Villa
Man, one day I hope we can see these two partnering in forward for us. Only happen in FM. haha

You never know, might happen this summer. If Villa will perform during the whole tournament as he did against Russia he will leave Valencia 100%. i think Inter may be one of the teams he will be interested in.

Cro Nerazzurro
11 Jun 08, 10:22
Superb goal, undeserved win by Sweden

Pajo
11 Jun 08, 10:39
undeserved?:rollani:

I guess you didn't watch the game...:D Pr you are talking to piss off others:P

Luka
11 Jun 08, 10:54
Cro, I admire your determination, and I am gratefull, you praised Poland after our derby with Germany, but as I was well aware Germany deserved to win that game, you should have the same feeling after yesterdays game.

shahz_nerazzurri
11 Jun 08, 11:00
I really enjoyed the game between Ssweden and Greece. Tactics at its best. Even if Greeks were more keen on passing the ball amongst each other, rather than passing it forward. Still, if you really like football, you apprecaite games like these, but if you are one of those diiots, who like stadium lights, drama, pace, rough tackling etc, you probably wont.

Spain-Russia was good as well. Freakin Spain man, all of there goals were so so good. Villa is amazing, and I have been saying that for a long time. For me he would have probably been another Torres story. Crap Crap when you are in laliga, but when you move to EPL, you become great, cause EPL is the ultimate place that determines your greatness.

I think after a performance like this, Villa would never go to Tottenham, probably give them the middle finger like Eto. But sadly I do see him ending up at Chelsea. They are gonna get rid of Drogba, selling him to some idiots on the market, and then get a much better striker in Villa. Atleast after impressive performances in Euro, he wont go for cheap.
A Villa-Ibra duo would be a wet dream.

Cro Nerazzurro
11 Jun 08, 11:02
Well Poland deserved every praise, but listen for this:

Greece is defensive team. OK.
They defended superb, Ibra was invisible, Sweden didnt have one chance, onyl when stupid Nikopolidis did mistakes Sweden could do something...but still, not enough, nothing special.

Everyone are talking about Greece short passings in defence, so what? they are allowed to, they are doing it so Sweden comes attack them, and then they can do a counter or some stuff...but no, Sweden didnt push at all.
So why is Greece defensive team that doesnt want to attack and win, when same Sweden didnt want to push at all?

Greece did push, at 0-0 they clsoed down Sweden defence, and Karagounis had chance cause of that, and sometimes Sweden had to kick long balls, or send them into throw in.

Sweden didnt deserve this win. Its not cause I am Greece fan, its just I watched game too closely, and know what I saw.
Draw would probably be most fair.

brehme1989
11 Jun 08, 11:09
Cro is paid by the Greek FA ;)

:lol:

Well done Sweden. Zlatan actually :P

Cro Nerazzurro
11 Jun 08, 11:16
I work free for greece:D

But I am serious with my comments of the game.

Ibra won it, and stupid Clooney on Greece goal, Chalkias in next match!

tonyloo
11 Jun 08, 11:26
Why would Sweden push, thats what Greece wanted? They did the right thing waiting for Greece's horrible long balls and win the ball after that.

The tactics Greece used was so easy to read, those tactics might have worked against England or something who would've pushed like maniacs and lost their positions.

The only chances Greece had was after mistakes in Swedens build up play.

Ibra was man marked the entire game but got away from that dirty hairy thing once and scored immediately. That tells you something.

Cro Nerazzurro
11 Jun 08, 11:40
That tells you Ibra is worlds class, and that you need world class moment to win agains Greece.

Why would Sweden push up? Maybe t win game?

Why would greece attack if Sweden were so defensive?
We can wait and wait...

On the other hand, Sweden didnt make msitakes in defence, it was Greece that pushed them, but still had everyone on right position so Sweden couldnt do anything althought 3 of hellas players were on sweden defenders...

Greece horrible long balls? What did Sweden do? Same thing, horrible crosses and long balls that all ended on Kyrgiakos and co.

Jimmy
11 Jun 08, 12:12
Are you for real, Cro? :D Greece just had the worst performance a single team has had in a major competition since I can remember, and that comes from someone who ADORED the 2004 tactics. This was however different.

Just look around the 40th minute when three Greek defenders pass the ball five metres to each other for two minutes. It ends up with Dellas seemingly deliberately kicking the ball away to a throw-in when they realised that Sweden aren't a pressing side and had done their home-work. It was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen.

How a team like that cannot deserve to lose a game, is beyond me.

Cro Nerazzurro
11 Jun 08, 12:15
Man, like I said, those passes are ok, they have right to do it, and wait for Sweden to attack them. Sweden didnt, so sometimes it ended like it was in 4oth when Dellas did that.
But hey, no one is perfect, for sure Otto didnt tell Dellas to do it, for sure Dellas didnt want it to end like that, it was just his try to do good for the team, but his long pass was awfull.
Its not like every attack it was like that.

Hasan
11 Jun 08, 13:23
Team like Greece are disgrace for european football, I can't believe there is someone in this world(except Greeks) who can cheer for them and who actually enjoy in their "game".

Luka
11 Jun 08, 14:54
Well Poland deserved every praise, but listen for this:

Greece is defensive team. OK.
They defended superb, Ibra was invisible, Sweden didnt have one chance, onyl when stupid Nikopolidis did mistakes Sweden could do something...but still, not enough, nothing special.

Everyone are talking about Greece short passings in defence, so what? they are allowed to, they are doing it so Sweden comes attack them, and then they can do a counter or some stuff...but no, Sweden didnt push at all.
So why is Greece defensive team that doesnt want to attack and win, when same Sweden didnt want to push at all?

Greece did push, at 0-0 they clsoed down Sweden defence, and Karagounis had chance cause of that, and sometimes Sweden had to kick long balls, or send them into throw in.

Sweden didnt deserve this win. Its not cause I am Greece fan, its just I watched game too closely, and know what I saw.
Draw would probably be most fair.
Greece was waiting for Sweden to press them. If they didn't like someone pointed out, they just passed the ball between them, for a minute or two, and after the deadline they kicked a long ball, and see what happens. This is a tactic ?

90% of the teams agains Barca doesn't press them, because they know what danger comes out of this, and do they pass the ball between their deffenders ?

I agree though, with the part that they had right to do so, everybody does. But it's the result that is being judged by the fans. They were playing deffensively, as they had right to do so, and they were punished eventualy. Maybe not of the first goal, but because of what happened that followed. The whole tactic was constructed, with the fact that Greece won't be loosing. When they lost this first goal, after that it was a lost cause for Greece.

Sweden played a lot more offensively. I don't like to do it often, but just take a look at the tactics. Greece played with 5-3-2 formation. 5 deffenders when deffending. That's a lot. It was obvious after 5 minutes what Greece will be playing.

They got the result 4 years ago, but it won't work all the time, or even most of the time.

Hammoudi
11 Jun 08, 16:52
Cro, I probably agree alot with you, but I am on the extreme here.

Like Jimmy said, that was one of the most pathetic display by a team in a major competition. Heck, even French Polynesia will attack and play some football if they make it to a big tournament.

And these aren't tactics, these are primitive techniques. I can bring 11 cavemen and instruct them to close all spaces and pass the ball around and probably they will get few points, but that is not football!

brehme1989
12 Jun 08, 12:40
I agree the display by Greece was pathetic, but don't tell me the French played much better against Romania! Consider also which players each team has(comparing France and Greece) and then tell me who played worse.

Otto made a terrible tactical game, Sweden didn't catch the bait, and there was no alternative.
Greece could only score by accident(Hansson header backwards) or by a set piece. Sweden could have only scored by Zlatan and he evaded the defence only once and scored.

Good idea by Otto, bad game though.

Cro Nerazzurro
12 Jun 08, 13:05
Well I never said Greece played good, or beautifull.
BUT Sweden did nothing more to deserve win.
Greece, alongside Austria are worst team on Euro, They dont have one creative player, no player in Greece can rely on pace, they are all fighters, playing with their hearts and defensive tactics.
Philosophy is to pass the ball and try to make opposite team open, and then attack and do something, or to close them down when defending and try do some counters.
They were trying that, and when Sweden didnt have any wish for pushing and scoring, all they had to do is longer balls, cause they cant pass ball like Barcelona or Spain.
And you could see why Dellas and Greeks are no great footballers, cause they dont know do make good long pass...So why attack them?
Its obvious they are not class and quality, jsut united,tactics and heart.

And now ppl say they are disagrace.
Should Karagounis dribble past 4 players, should Basinas make one touck thru ball no look pass?
They were playing their game, and deserved at least point cause Sweden,favorites, werent any better.
Thats all I wanted to say.

Greece could score only by accidence?

How about Charisteas solo and poor shot? How about Greece clsoe down, Karagounis one on one, but did poor...

Sweden could onyl score by accidence or brillance of Ibra...

brehme1989
12 Jun 08, 13:16
Well, it was a bad game. When you see Charisteas going past 3 defenders, it means the other team is not serious enough :lol:

Cro Nerazzurro
12 Jun 08, 13:21
Charisteas is life form, hope he will make some nation cry and make Greeks and me happy soon:)

ataturk5
13 Jun 08, 16:38
absolutely delighted the greeks got beat, got wot they deserved, nothing. the worst example of anti football up to now. sincerely hope they go home without a point. i would love it if turkey won( unlikely i know), good football and great people

brehme1989
13 Jun 08, 18:25
Worst example of anti-football? Does that make them the best example of football? :lol:

I made a joint bet with a friend that Greece will get no points! Odds are 11-1 and we placed 2 euros each :P

brehme1989
14 Jun 08, 09:19
I want both games to end up as draws, then we'll have the Russians beat the Swedish and the Greeks beat the Spaniards. All teams will have 4 points. Just for the sake of it:lol:

Realistically, Greece-Russia 2-1 and Spain-Sweden 3-1

Though I'd like Sweden to beat the Spaniards. I really enjoy the underdog doing well in such competitions.

Cro Nerazzurro
14 Jun 08, 09:54
New day, new begining...same old passion, FORZA HELLAS!

rockball
14 Jun 08, 13:37
Forza Ibra!
Beat those diving bitches.

Adam
14 Jun 08, 16:51
First half was even as Spain dominated at the beginning but we took over the last 25. 1-1 is a fair sofar.

Ibra showing his class with some nice passes and a goal scored with sheer determination and strength.

brehme1989
14 Jun 08, 16:54
I want more goals :D

Alex de Large
14 Jun 08, 17:02
LOL, Zlatan is out now, Zlatan injured score goals and is better than Torres or Villa, amazing.

lonewolf19
14 Jun 08, 17:17
Man these recurring injury for Ibra is scaring me. I really hope he will have a nice summer and put those injuries behind him

brehme1989
14 Jun 08, 17:40
I hope there's nothing wrong and he's healthy through the summer :confused:

lonewolf19
14 Jun 08, 17:50
oh darn... heart breaker Villa

Principe
14 Jun 08, 17:52
hansen should have just clear that its the last minute u dont do that mistake during extra time....sweden deserve a tie

Adam
14 Jun 08, 17:55
Man these recurring injury for Ibra is scaring me. I really hope he will have a nice summer and put those injuries behind him

It's the same injury dude. He's rehabing which takes 3-6 months but he's playing in between.

God this sucks, Spain probably deserved it but if feels bitter to catch a goal like that in the last minute. We had it coming though because when Zlatan went off every bit of our attack went right out the window.

Alex de Large
14 Jun 08, 17:56
sweeden is ibrahimovic+10.

Pajo
14 Jun 08, 17:59
Lol, Villa in 92 minute...:D

Anyway,i thibk Spain deserved it, and Villa's goal was class... What finishin, what dribbling...

Principe
14 Jun 08, 18:00
sweden without zlatan reminded me a bit of inter without zlatan...it was kinda sad

brehme1989
14 Jun 08, 18:13
"Sweden should find new players to replace Zlatan. He's making himself the focus of the team, the team depends on him too much, they're not a team"

Azzkikr

Principe
14 Jun 08, 18:23
amaazing zlatan is being flamed for being a great player

Handoyo
14 Jun 08, 19:01
"Sweden should find new players to replace Zlatan. He's making himself the focus of the team, the team depends on him too much, they're not a team"

Azzkikr
lol!

That's a great one. :D

lonewolf19
14 Jun 08, 19:11
any1 have highlights link?

Mustafa
15 Jun 08, 00:45
So now we have all group winners. It's now fight for the 2nd place in all the groups :)

Luka
15 Jun 08, 14:26
amaazing zlatan is being flamed for being a great player
That's nothing new around here.

I was shocked myself at first, but then I used to live with it.

brehme1989
15 Jun 08, 15:52
We all love Azzkikr :D

Luka
18 Jun 08, 19:19
Arshavin again proves he is such a great player.

It will be such a shame if he will go to the EPL, and english bastards will kill another technical gifted player, by playing their crap direct football.

I don't think he would be best in Serie A, but he would definetly thrive in Spanish league, and I hope some club from there will come to their senses, and snatch him.

brehme1989
18 Jun 08, 19:29
Greece scored!

Azzkikr
18 Jun 08, 20:10
The commies are destroying sweden :x

Russia - Holland should be an entertaining game, Russia will most likely get destroyed though, but they keep attacking...

Disgracefull how Zlatan is also wasting swedens freekicks just like he does at Inter....

Why the fuck is this guy taking direct freekicks? He completely sucks at it.

Adam
18 Jun 08, 20:42
Deserved win for Russia. Congrats.

We simply weren't good enough. Totally outplayed.

The_Emperor
18 Jun 08, 20:42
This match was just so...ffs:wallbang:

First Poland now Sweden. The 2 of my home countries are out:frustrat:

Bes
18 Jun 08, 21:06
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Marcello
18 Jun 08, 21:15
The commies are destroying sweden :x

Russia - Holland should be an entertaining game, Russia will most likely get destroyed though, but they keep attacking...

Disgracefull how Zlatan is also wasting swedens freekicks just like he does at Inter....

Why the fuck is this guy taking direct freekicks? He completely sucks at it.

aww are you still pissed off since he had that great game agaisnt denmark?

Bes
18 Jun 08, 21:40
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Luka
19 Jun 08, 02:02
Nothing bad, that can't turn out to be good.

Sweeden is off, but this is a good news for us(Inter). Zlatan will have more time to rest, and that's the most important thing that he needs now. Rest.

Russia played great game. Absolutely impressive, and I'm dying to see them agains Holland. Probably Van Basten right now isn't sleeping too well, thinking he will have Hiddink to face, and I don't blame him.

That would be something if Spain, Holland and Portugeese were eliminated in this stage of championship :P and there is a chance(not that small) that it can happen :>

tonyloo
19 Jun 08, 07:43
Azzkikr is happy when Ibra is failing. He didnt talk so much when he saved Sweden in the first game and made his wank object #1 Ramos look like a moron in the game against Spain.

Atleast Ibra can rest now...

Bes
19 Jun 08, 08:21
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ataturk5
20 Jun 08, 18:32
Arshavin again proves he is such a great player.

It will be such a shame if he will go to the EPL, and english bastards will kill another technical gifted player, by playing their crap direct football.

I don't think he would be best in Serie A, but he would definetly thrive in Spanish league, and I hope some club from there will come to their senses, and snatch him.

maybe he should go to the polish lge eh? gloryhunter

ataturk5
20 Jun 08, 18:34
Worst example of anti-football? Does that make them the best example of football? :lol:

I made a joint bet with a friend that Greece will get no points! Odds are 11-1 and we placed 2 euros each :P

yeah? well unlucky!

Luka
20 Jun 08, 19:45
maybe he should go to the polish lge eh? gloryhunter
What's your problem buoy ?

ataturk5
21 Jun 08, 16:42
What's your problem buoy ?

buoys live in the sea, no problem, you made out no one in prem plays football, my team is in the prem so im asking you should arshavin play in the polish lge? not hard is it?

Luka
21 Jun 08, 17:11
And why should he play there ?

Sorry, but I don't get your question. It's like asking whether Kaka should be sold to Russian league(no disrespect at all to russian league).

ataturk5
21 Jun 08, 17:26
And why should he play there ?

Sorry, but I don't get your question. It's like asking whether Kaka should be sold to Russian league(no disrespect at all to russian league).

well indirectly you are having a pop at my team, so im being sarcastic and asking if he should play in the polish lge thats all, it is your national lge after all isnt it? so shouldnt you follow a polish team?

Luka
21 Jun 08, 17:31
I do, but not as passionate as in case of Inter.

I wish them well all the time, but I'm not a die hard fan if that's what you mena.

And ofcourse Arshavin shouldn't come to polish league. He is at least 5 times better player, for a polish league.

ataturk5
21 Jun 08, 18:00
I do, but not as passionate as in case of Inter.

I wish them well all the time, but I'm not a die hard fan if that's what you mena.

And ofcourse Arshavin shouldn't come to polish league. He is at least 5 times better player, for a polish league.

well call me old fashioned but i think people should support their home town teams, unless because of family connections etc they have ties to another city. but if i remember correctly at least you actually go and watch inter so i suppose thats something

Luka
21 Jun 08, 18:15
You are old fashioned.

You are correct, I do go to see Inter. I hope in the future, I will be able to do the tripple in one season (Roma, Milan, JuBe), but that's expensive and not easy to do.

And like I said, I'm some kind of a supported of Wisla Krakow, but more of a "holiday" supporter as they call them. I don't watch many games of them and all that.

And lastly, I would definetly support home football team, if there were some decent football traditions in my city, but there are not. In fact, the sport with the most history in my town, is SpeedWay, and I'm a dying hard fan of them. (Unia Tarnow).

ataturk5
21 Jun 08, 18:29
You are old fashioned.

You are correct, I do go to see Inter. I hope in the future, I will be able to do the tripple in one season (Roma, Milan, JuBe), but that's expensive and not easy to do.

And like I said, I'm some kind of a supported of Wisla Krakow, but more of a "holiday" supporter as they call them. I don't watch many games of them and all that.

And lastly, I would definetly support home football team, if there were some decent football traditions in my city, but there are not. In fact, the sport with the most history in my town, is SpeedWay, and I'm a dying hard fan of them. (Unia Tarnow).

i agree its easy for myself who comes from a city with a big club to support my hometown team, i admit that. but if everyone around the world only followed the bigger teams it would be bad for football no? my team has millions of fans around the world , especially ireland and scandinavia and because of that there is 60 thousand on season ticket waiting list,mostly local fans who cant get tickets. but i will give you credit for going to watch inter, unlike most of the so called fans on here, i remember going to a game years ago against slask?wroclow, they still going?

shahz_nerazzurri
21 Jun 08, 19:47
If all the glory hunters all around the world stop supporting EPL, they will loose 90% of their money on TV rights and merchandise, and probably fall below Vietnamese league.

You shouldnt really hope that things go back the old fashion way, should you lola?

Luka
21 Jun 08, 21:58
i agree its easy for myself who comes from a city with a big club to support my hometown team, i admit that.

I know what you mean. But like I've said. If there was stronger history and tradition for football in my city, I would definetly followed football team. But like I've said in my city there is a sport called SpeedWay in the first place, so that's what I logicaly followed as a young boy.

What you mean is that it's a lot easier to support a big team, rather than start supporting a smaller team right ?

Well in my case (SpeedWay) Unia Tarnow was a champions of Poland only twice in their over 50 year old history, and they are not considered top club in Poland. I started support them, when they were in second league. That's equivalent of Serie C1 in Italy, so you can't say I'm only for the big guns.

The team is very small, with around 5000, 6000 of attendance on average this season, and 50-150 of Ultras. Here is a little movie about us:

8ZqL3L-MwBM

The movie maker put me even on the first photo :P (I'm in the center).



but i will give you credit for going to watch inter, unlike most of the so called fans on here, i remember going to a game years ago against slask?wroclow, they still going?
Slask Wroclaw, yeah. They just won promotion to the "Primera Division" of Poland.

ataturk5
26 Jun 08, 16:33
If all the glory hunters all around the world stop supporting EPL, they will loose 90% of their money on TV rights and merchandise, and probably fall below Vietnamese league.

You shouldnt really hope that things go back the old fashion way, should you lola?

yes i should sharon, i dont get any money from the worldwide epl fanbase, i mite get to see a better quality player because prem can afford them, but my season ticket when my nan bought it for my fourteenth birthday was fourteen quid, its now 650 , and that is the cheapest seats(the kop). the prima donna players get all the money and its gone too far. so yes i would like the old days back. but why the fukc do you keep making out that serie a is penniless? as far as i know its far from penniless. morrattis your owner isnt he? according to the press over here he has spent 300 hundred mill, not peanuts is it? dont understand you wierdos going on about hating the prem or whoever, who gives a fukc about leagues? all i care about is my team. p.s hope you werent too upset about italy going out!

shahz_nerazzurri
26 Jun 08, 22:48
yes i should sharon, i dont get any money from the worldwide epl fanbase, i mite get to see a better quality player because prem can afford them, but my season ticket when my nan bought it for my fourteenth birthday was fourteen quid, its now 650 , and that is the cheapest seats(the kop). the prima donna players get all the money and its gone too far. so yes i would like the old days back. but why the fukc do you keep making out that serie a is penniless? as far as i know its far from penniless. morrattis your owner isnt he? according to the press over here he has spent 300 hundred mill, not peanuts is it? dont understand you wierdos going on about hating the prem or whoever, who gives a fukc about leagues? all i care about is my team. p.s hope you werent too upset about italy going out!

You see Lola, if EPL loose all its money rights, then you wont be able to go to the stadium and wank over players like Torres or Alonso.

You will be stuck watching players like Crouch perform. I am pretty sure teh stadium attendances will go down as well. I mena, who in their right mind would go to the stadium to watch Crouch play??

p.s. I really dont care about Italy that much. I was a little upset, but then I thought about where the self-proclaimed best team in the world were. Then I remembered they were sitting at home, watching real players perform.