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Frisko
01 Sep 04, 17:02
TOLDO = BUFFON
CORDOBA > CANNAVARO
MATERAZZI = THURAM
J ZANETTI > ZEBINA
FAVALLI < ZAMBROTTA
ZE MARIA > CAMORANESI
DAVIDS = EMERSON
STANKOVIC = NEDVED
VERON > TACCHINARDI
ADRIANO > TREZEGUET
MARTINS > DEL PIERO

FONTANA > CHIMENTI
BURDISSO > MONTERO
MIHAJLOVIC---LE GROTTAGLIE
GAMARRA > FERRARA
C ZANETTI > TACCHINARDI
EMRE > APPIAH
KILY > KAPO
VIERI = IBRAHIMOVIC
RECOBA > ZALAYETA

V D MEYDE--- /
KARAGOUNIS--- /
REBECCHI--- /
CRUZ--- /
CHOUTOS---

INTER 11, Gobbi 1

Fabio
01 Sep 04, 17:13
So we win 13-8! :thumbsup:

This also shows that we have much more depth than Juventus! :arrow: :thumbsup:

Fabio :howler:

Frisko
01 Sep 04, 17:33
13-8 just because I've been good :dielaugh:

I think Vieri is better than Ibrahimovic if he's in form, Ze Maria is better than Camoranesi ;)

Jimmy
01 Sep 04, 17:47
Fact? I beg to differ...

Frisko
01 Sep 04, 17:54
Well that was the purpose of this thread Jimmy, to hear different opinions.

I said facts in a ironic way :)

Jimmy
01 Sep 04, 17:58
How can you for starter compare Van der Meyde with Blasi? One is a pure winger while the other is a defensive central midfielder.

Fabio
01 Sep 04, 18:00
I think what is meant here is who gives more to the team!

Fabio :thumbsup:

Frisko
01 Sep 04, 18:21
You're right, I was in trouble with Juve's midfielders cause I don''t have a clue where Olivera/Blasi/Kapo play. I also don't know who is the starter as RB if Thuram plays CD.

Gismo
01 Sep 04, 18:47
Well that was the purpose of this thread Jimmy, to hear different opinions.

I said facts in a ironic way :)
Kinda like when I said: "The truth is like a sword!", and no one understood it was a J O K E. :D

Yellow is when Inter is best, white is when they are equal and Orange is when Juventus are better. ;)

Toldo Buffon
J. Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba Cannavaro
Materazzi Thuram
Favalli Zambrotta
Ze Maria Camoranesi
Davids Emerson
Veron Tacchinardi
Stankovic Nedved
Adriano Del Piero
Martins Trezeguet

Fabio
01 Sep 04, 19:34
Here is my opinion -

TOLDO---BUFFON
CORDOBA---CANNAVARO
MATERAZZI---THURAM
J ZANETTI---BIRINDELLI
FAVALLI---ZAMBROTTA
ZE MARIA---CAMORANESI
DAVIDS---EMERSON
VERON---NEDVED
STANKOVIC---OLIVERA
ADRIANO---TREZEGUET
MARTINS---DEL PIERO
FONTANA---CHIMENTI
BURDISSO---MONTERO
MIHAJLOVIC---LE GROTTAGLIE
GAMARRA---FERRARA
CAMBIASSO---BLASI [color]
[color=black]C ZANETTI---TACCHINARDI
EMRE---APPIAH[color]
[color=blue]KILY---KAPO
VIERI---IBRAHIMOVIC
RECOBA---ZALAYETA
PASQUALE---ZEBINA

Winner: Inter 16-5 Juventus

I will explain some of them and if there are anymore I need to explain then just ask!

Pasquale-Zebina
Pasquale because to me he is not as dodgy as Zebina and is quite useful

C.Zanetti-Tacchinardi
Tacchinardi because he is just slightly a better all round player,(attacks well,defends well) I think

Fabio ;)2

Jimmy
01 Sep 04, 19:49
If were gonna compare, then at least compare the right players:

Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero
Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic


And due to the difference of squad depths, there are some players that are left out in this comparison.

Im too lazy to count.

SB9Dragon
01 Sep 04, 20:04
If were gonna compare, then at least compare the right players:

Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero
Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic


And due to the difference of squad depths, there are some players that are left out in this comparison.

Im too lazy to count.

I agree with Jimmy...

His list is BD certified :P :D

Pani
01 Sep 04, 20:07
If were gonna compare, then at least compare the right players:

Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero
Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic


And due to the difference of squad depths, there are some players that are left out in this comparison.

Im too lazy to count.

I agree too

Frisko
01 Sep 04, 20:20
Gosh Gismo, you think Toldo is stronger than Buffon? I love Toldo and honestly I wouldn't swap him with Buffon, but I really can't dare saying that Toldo is better...

Favalli and Zambrotta equal? Nah!! Zambrotta is the best LB in Serie A.

Stankovic BETTER than Nedved? I'd say equal... (Once again, I'd never swap Stanko with the diver-master!).

Materazzi better than Thuram? Nah!!

The_Egyptian_Interista
01 Sep 04, 20:24
Emerson better than Davids ?! I beg to differ people ! :stuckup: Jimmy got this one right though as he compared Emerson to Veron and not Davids. ;)

well, that's how i see it :

Our line-up :

---------------------------Toldo--------------------------

--Zanetti-----Cordoba--------Materazzi-------Favalli-----

--Ze Maria----Veron------------Davids---------Stankovic----

------------------Adriano------Martins-------------------------

Juve's :

---------------------------Buffon--------------------------------

--Zebina-------Thuram----------Pezzo di merda-----Zambrotta-----

--Olivera------Emerson----------Tacchinardi----------Nedved-------

------------------Zlatan-----------Trezeguet---------------------------

(Yes, Capello will bench Dope Piero and Zlatan can play off a pure striker, no problems for him)

Now, to make the comparison :

Buffon > Toldo
Zebina < Zanetti
Zambrotta > Favalli
Thuram < Cordoba
Gobbivaro > Materazzi
Olivera < Ze Maria
Emerson > Veron
Tacchinardi < Davids
Nedved > Stankovic
Zlatan < Adriano
Trezeguet > Martins

Sadly, Juve wins this 6-5 in my eyes. But we have much better squad depth because if Thuram/Gobbivaro gets injured or suspended, they're screwed, despite having a lot of centre-backs but almost all of them are crap. Also if Zambrotta is out, they have no real backup as Pessotto is past it. ;)

Surprises could occur though. If Veron can actually play like he did with Lazio, then this would prove crucial for us. :star:

Finally, you can never tell as injuries and drop in form are quite possible ! :D

Gismo
01 Sep 04, 20:32
Gosh Gismo, you think Toldo is stronger than Buffon? I love Toldo and honestly I wouldn't swap him with Buffon, but I really can't dare saying that Toldo is better...

Favalli and Zambrotta equal? Nah!! Zambrotta is the best LB in Serie A.

Stankovic BETTER than Nedved? I'd say equal... (Once again, I'd never swap Stanko with the diver-master!).

Materazzi better than Thuram? Nah!!
Yes, I consider Toldo stronger. I believe his bad performances last season was because of Zac. Plus Buffon somehow isnt quite as strong as he used to be IMO.

I meant that Zambrotta is better. Orange you know. Well what can I say about Deki, I had no idea he was this great as LW...

Materazzi is IMO better than Thuram. Yes.

;)

Frisko
01 Sep 04, 20:45
Actually Mancini said that Davids is the midfielder with most defensive duties, when Veron can focus more on the attack. So I would pair Emerson and Davids.

Trezeguet better than Martins? Oh gosh I heard everything now :dielaugh:

ILuvInter
01 Sep 04, 21:43
Where is the thread about comparing ourselves to Bbilan ??

Im very tired now though it is stimulating to post a reply to what you guys have said . so it ll be later .

Javier Zanetti
02 Sep 04, 01:16
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Gamarra - Tudor







You drunk ? ;)

Tudor was the worst player in the euro 2004 , he scored an own goal and assited Trezeguet a goal when Croatia met France .

On Legrottaglie I don't even have to comment , though Burdisso is class .

;) :star:

cool_cuchu
02 Sep 04, 03:31
--> we are better
--> on par


Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Cordaz - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli

Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero

Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic

Handoyo
02 Sep 04, 04:18
Gismo is one hell of a psychic. He can judge that Toldo is better than Buffon even though he has only seen 2 Juve matches in his entire life. :howler:

Player by player comparison is never a good thing to judge who is the better club. And it is never a fact, it is purely an opinion.


Hand;)yo

Jimmy
02 Sep 04, 05:23
You drunk ? ;)

Tudor was the worst player in the euro 2004 , he scored an own goal and assited Trezeguet a goal when Croatia met France .


Well, I dont really look at only one competition to judge a player when Ive seen him for years before that. Going by this logic, Dellas should be the best defender in the world, since he was great in the Euro 2004. But we all know that thats not true.

Fabio
02 Sep 04, 11:45
Han surely some of them are fact,for example Zanetti - Zebina! :D

Fabio ;)2

Mikkel
02 Sep 04, 11:58
Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta
Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero

Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic

15-7 to us

Pravesh
02 Sep 04, 13:35
BOLD - Better


Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved (Stanko has to do better to compete with Ned)

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero
Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic


It's kinda same to Jimmy's. :)

Handoyo
02 Sep 04, 15:48
Han surely some of them are fact,for example Zanetti - Zebina! :D

Fabio ;)2
As much as I want to accept that as a fact, that is still an opinion. A fact is something that can be proven scientifically. A fact is something that is completely unarguable. For example, 1 + 1 = 2. You can still come across some crazy people who will think that Zebina is better than J.Zanetti. But you won't come across someone who will argue that 1 + 1 = 3. :D

To be honest, I have always dislike the idea of player by player comparison. The coach and the physio staff also plays an important, albeit smaller, role to the club. How about the fans and the pitch's quality? You can also never discount the management team. The atmosphere of the club too plays an important role to determine which club is better. Well, this is not a fact, just my opinion.


Hand;)yo

Fabio
02 Sep 04, 15:50
OK then fair enough Han!:D

Fabio ;)

Gismo
02 Sep 04, 16:49
Handoyo: I have also seen Buffon for NT but I respect if you dont think it is enough. Just wish you and everyone else would respect the way I judge players. Mutual respect instead. Ah well, guess it is utopia... :)

Actually I did meet a person once who though 1 + 1 = 3. :D

Frisko
02 Sep 04, 17:33
I really don't care that you didn't see the games Gismo. 3 years ago I couldn't watch any game cause Channel 4 stopped broadcasting Serie A. Eurosport picked it up but for a whole year I couldn't see squat.

But that didn't mean that I couldn't follow Inter. I was reading news and match reports on the net, some friends were posting me newspapers from Italy etc...

So I understand how you can have your opinions about various players and teams, and I respect them :)

Gismo
02 Sep 04, 17:40
Well thats great to hear, Francesco. :) Every person is unique and has his/her own way of seeing the sport called soccer. In a perfect (know it is impossible to reach perfection) world everyone would respect those ways...

But still I respect those who thinks I need to see more to judge. Completely respect that, I just cant understand that when I respect them they dont respect me. Also the way they dont think I have seen enough to judge is odd to me.

GentinteR
02 Sep 04, 17:58
If were gonna compare, then at least compare the right players:

Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero
Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic


And due to the difference of squad depths, there are some players that are left out in this comparison.

Im too lazy to count.
the only thing is about RECOBA and IBRAHIMOVIC
i think that they are equal
and also you cannot compare CORDOBA with THURAM and MATERAZZI with CANNAVARO
if i correct the list the only change would be:
Cordoba - Cannavaro
Materazzi - Thuram
Recoba - Ibrahimovic

Jimmy
02 Sep 04, 18:13
Yeah, you have a point about the Cordoba-Canna thing. I overlooked that and only looked at their positions on the field. Cordoba being the right central defender and Thuram being one.

But indeed, the comparison should have been made the other way around if we look at the characteristics.

Stefan
02 Sep 04, 19:02
I agree with most of your comparisons Jimmy exept I think you are being very nice to legrotaigle put him on the same level as Burdisso. IMHO Burdisso is defenitly above legrotaigle but I quess you haven't seen enough of Burdisso and thats why you put them on the same level??

Intercrazy
07 Sep 04, 09:06
How about this:

Davids > Emerson & Tacchinardi

We are playing with 12 !!!

a dutch fan

Frisko
07 Sep 04, 10:21
Hi Intercrazy, welcome to FI Forums!

It's nice to have a fellow Inter fan from Holland. You're obviously a big Davids fan, what are your thoughts on V D Meyde?

Intercrazy
07 Sep 04, 10:27
Hi there Frisko,

I am afraid i am not that big a fan of vd meyde. He has got the skill but is not so good in the mental aspects. He (and his wife) need familiar surroundings to play at his best (which is pretty good).

If he starts feeling at home in Milan he might be of use to us but i am not so sure.

p.s. Do you know where i can get tickets for Inter-matches ?

cu
JLe

Handoyo
07 Sep 04, 10:36
How about this:

Davids > Emerson & Tacchinardi

We are playing with 12 !!!

a dutch fan
We are playing with 12 but they are playing with 15 (Referee, 2 linesmen and 4th official).


Hand;)yo

Frisko
07 Sep 04, 10:58
I hope V D Meyde gets settled and he can deliver this season.

There's a link on Inter.it to buy tickets but I never used it so I'm not sure if it works...

http://www.inter.it/en/biglietti/acquista.html

Bianconeri
11 Sep 04, 13:29
Gismo is one hell of a psychic. He can judge that Toldo is better than Buffon even though he has only seen 2 Juve matches in his entire life. :howler:

Player by player comparison is never a good thing to judge who is the better club. And it is never a fact, it is purely an opinion.


Hand;)yo

well, that explains a lot... :D

Bianconeri
11 Sep 04, 13:39
If were gonna compare, then at least compare the right players:

Toldo - Buffon

Zanetti - Zebina
Cordoba - Thuram
Materazzi - Cannavaro
Favalli - Zambrotta

Ze Maria - Camoranesi
Veron - Emerson
Davids - Tacchinardi
Stankovic - Nedved

Adriano - Trezeguet
Vieri - Del Piero

Fontana - Chimenti
Carini - Bonnefoi

Dellafiore - Birindelli
Burdisso - Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic - Montero
Coco - Pessotto
Gamarra - Tudor

Van der Meyde - Olivera
C. Zanetti - Blasi
Emre - Appiah
Kily - Kapo

Martins - Zalayeta
Recoba - Ibrahimovic


And due to the difference of squad depths, there are some players that are left out in this comparison.

Im too lazy to count.

you have the most realistic so far, good work... Some of those are just hilarious... But it's cool because these are just opinions, so noone shouldn't laugh at all...

IMO

Toldo < Buffon

Zanetti > Zebina
Cordoba < Thuram
Materazzi < Cannavaro
Favalli < Zambrotta

Ze Maria = Camoranesi
Veron < Emerson
Davids > Blasi
Stankovic < Nedved

Adriano > Trezeguet
Vieri = Del Piero

Fontana = Chimenti
Carini > Bonnefoi

Dellafiore (?) < Birindelli

Burdisso = Legrottaglie
Mihajlovic < Montero

Coco > Pessotto
Gamarra = Tudor

Van der Meyde < Olivera
C. Zanetti = Tacchinardi
Emre > Appiah
Kily > Kapo

Martins > Zalayeta
Recoba < Ibrahimovic

If you need me to explain, just ask... :)

And yeah most importantly:

Mancini < Capello

:D

This is quite funny thread, I'll make this kind of thread to juventuz.com too... Allways a pleasure to see other opinions of the same game that we all love... :proud: Football...

scutzon
11 Sep 04, 14:10
Van der Meyde < Olivera


You gotta be fvcking kidding me!! :rolleyes: Olivera better than VDM?! Olivera is not even fit to scrub VDM's dirty boots!! :yuck:

Frisko
11 Sep 04, 14:21
Cordoba < Thuram
Ze Maria = Camoranesi
Stankovic < Nedved
Mihajlovic < Montero
Van der Meyde < Olivera
C. Zanetti = Tacchinardi



:dielaugh:


Burdisso = Legrottaglie

:dielaugh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh:

Thuram was better than Cordoba MAYBE 5 years ago, today is a joke. Tacchinardi > C Zanetti is a riot, I don't know where to start!

1) C Zanetti is a regular in the NT, Tacchinardi maybe played a friendly.
2) Capello would have given his left arm to get C Z in the trasfers market.
3) Juve have been trying to dump Tacchinardi to us for at least 5 years, they never managed! And the guy is still playing for them LOL

Le Grottaglie=Burdisso made my day, thanks Bianconeri I needed a good laugh before the game!

Fabio
11 Sep 04, 14:26
Yeah your right Frisko,how can you compare a dumb defender with no positional sense with one of the worlds most promising defenders? :confused:

Fabio :D

Bianconeri
11 Sep 04, 16:02
Cordoba < Thuram
Ze Maria = Camoranesi
Stankovic < Nedved
Mihajlovic < Montero
Van der Meyde < Olivera
C. Zanetti = Tacchinardi



:dielaugh:


Burdisso = Legrottaglie

:dielaugh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh: :dielaugh:

Thuram was better than Cordoba MAYBE 5 years ago, today is a joke. Tacchinardi > C Zanetti is a riot, I don't know where to start!

1) C Zanetti is a regular in the NT, Tacchinardi maybe played a friendly.
2) Capello would have given his left arm to get C Z in the trasfers market.
3) Juve have been trying to dump Tacchinardi to us for at least 5 years, they never managed! And the guy is still playing for them LOL

Le Grottaglie=Burdisso made my day, thanks Bianconeri I needed a good laugh before the game!

:dielaugh: Tacchi is our third capitano, we're never tried to get rid of him!! And how can you confirm that Capello wanted "the yellow card"?! yeah, that's right, you can't!! And I didn't claim that Tacchi > Zanetti, it was Tacchi = Zanetti!!

And about Burdisso, I've seen so many of these so called "future superstars" who just haven't made it through... Surely the guy has potential, but he hasn't proved anything yet!! And your claiming that Nedved isn't better than Stankovic?! :dielaugh: About those others claims of yours I won't even make a comment, as I said, these are just OPINIONS!!

Bianconeri
11 Sep 04, 16:05
and it's weird that you didn't laugh at some of Jimmy's opinions, since they we're the same, Thuram > Cordoba for example... ;)

Frisko
11 Sep 04, 16:24
:dielaugh: Tacchi is our third capitano, we're never tried to get rid of him!! And how can you confirm that Capello wanted "the yellow card"?! yeah, that's right, you can't!! And I didn't claim that Tacchi > Zanetti, it was Tacchi = Zanetti!!

And about Burdisso, I've seen so many of these so called "future superstars" who just haven't made it through... Surely the guy has potential, but he hasn't proved anything yet!! And your claiming that Nedved isn't better than Stankovic?! :dielaugh: About those others claims of yours I won't even make a comment, as I said, these are just OPINIONS!!

1) Jimmy said one thing I didn't agree with, you said MANY. I didn't notice it, anyway.
2) You never tried to get rid of Tacchinardi? LOL you're not very well informed. And that Capello is a big fan of C Z is a very well known fact.
3) I know that you said Tacchinardi = C Z, I'm still laughing my ass off!
4) Montero is the worst defender in Serie A and possibly the planet. If Burdisso had one leg he couldn't be as bad as him.
5) I know they're just your opinions, I'm only laughing!

Bianconeri
11 Sep 04, 17:56
:dielaugh: Montero has had only one bad season with us, and now he's the worst on the planet... :howler:

damn how much you over-rate C.Z. it's just funny... ;)

and please inform me when we tried to get rid of Tacchi, please amuse me?! :D

Frisko
11 Sep 04, 21:24
Bianconeri it's well known that Juve have tried to sell Tacchinardi to us, at least for the last 5 or 6 years. They did the same this year, Capello wanted CZ but he couldn't have him.

Montero is crap, always has, always will be. He's got the record of red cards in Serie A, he's clumsy, unreliable...

http://www.antijuve.com/vomitero.jpg

Handoyo
11 Sep 04, 21:30
Oh my God! :dielaugh::lol::howler: Frisko, great pic! :D But I suggest you use [url] instead of since it's way too obscene. :D

(Not the liquid out of Montero's mouth but the $hit on his skin)


[i]Hand;)yo

Frisko
11 Sep 04, 21:57
Han you're joking about the URL thing right? :D

I know he's obscene, just think at the players who have to get touched by him!!

Mikkel
11 Sep 04, 22:04
Gross :yuck: But great picture thaugh......

As I remember I actualy didn't rate C.Z very high he is crap......but okay as Cambiasso's sub.

Fabio
11 Sep 04, 22:35
Where on earth did you find that picture? :D

Fabio :)

Frisko
11 Sep 04, 22:43
http://www.antijuve.com/index1.htm

A must-visit site for all of you guys! Bookmark it!

Fabio
11 Sep 04, 22:45
Oh yes,it's a great website! :)

Fabio ;)2

Mikkel
11 Sep 04, 22:46
Awesome website :D

Bianconeri
12 Sep 04, 08:22
Bianconeri it's well known that Juve have tried to sell Tacchinardi to us, at least for the last 5 or 6 years. They did the same this year, Capello wanted CZ but he couldn't have him.

Montero is crap, always has, always will be. He's got the record of red cards in Serie A, he's clumsy, unreliable...


weird that I haven't read absolutely anything about this Tacchi-case... Anyway, if we really tried to sell him, why on earth he has been our 3rd Capitano then?! And why did he always got to play?! Simple, we didn't try to sell him, he was perfect to pair Davids in the centre... :stuckup:

And about Montero, yes leads the record of red cards, but so what?! Just few years back he and Ferrara we're terriffic, not bad at all as you are saying, and now they're legends around here... :proud:

Jimmy
12 Sep 04, 09:44
I am also seriously questioning this whole 'Juve want to get rid of Tach' thing. Hes been a starter there for years and also have worn the captains armband on several occassions. Even with Emerson in the team, they still seem to have a plan for him.

I gotta side with the Juventino on this issue. I certainly dont rate Tach highly, but Juve has been doing that for many, many years now.

Frisko
12 Sep 04, 11:43
It's true, Tacchinardi is still a starter for Juve. But look at the alternatives. Juve doesn't have a lot of choice in the middle of the park.

I've been hearing rumours of Tacchinardi coming to Inter for at least 6 years. You might think they were bullshit, but I don't, so many times I heard them. The fact that he's 3rd captain doesn't mean anything, that's only a question of how many years he's been in the team. Vieri is our 3rd captain and he's not exactly our main man at the moment. Milan's is Costacurta, hardly a starter.

You must agree that Capello is a CZ fan, everybody knows it, I can assure you that if you go ask him he'd tell you it's true.

Capello he's not happy with his midfield. He tried to convince Davids to stay first, then he asked Moggi for CZ.

Ziyad
13 Sep 04, 00:01
There should be a warning on this thread like the [scores inside] warning that there is a gross pic inside...I mean that was disgusting,lots of black and white shirts just sickening...oh and then i noticed the vomitting :yuck: :D

Anyways i truly think that Juve tipped the scale to their side once they got Canna and Zlatan...I mean this is a team that came in third added a world class defender,midfielder and Attacker...not to mention that Trez and DP didnt have the best of seasons last year and that Nedved was injured too...That said i still think we will beat them twice this year. :D

Frisko
13 Sep 04, 07:12
Ok ok guys, I edited the Montero post and put the url instead, gosh you're too soft! :dielaugh:

Juve's squad lacks depth big time, now they're going to play Ajax in Amsterdam with Tacchinardi in place of Emerson (who's got a knee swollen like a melon). Thuram was struggling as well.

They don't have the squad to win the title or the CL. They got a good starting 11, but no bench.

Bianconeri
13 Sep 04, 08:06
Juve's squad lacks depth big time, now they're going to play Ajax in Amsterdam with Tacchinardi in place of Emerson (who's got a knee swollen like a melon). Thuram was struggling as well.

They don't have the squad to win the title or the CL. They got a good starting 11, but no bench.

lol, Thuram was superb!!! And what about your depth then, if you lose Cordoba, you're screwed big time... :D

Emerson's and Trez's injuries are only minor, Emo has muscular problems and I'm not sure about Trez, except that it isn't that serious...

I don't agree at all about our squad has no depth, but that's hardly surprising... We'll see about that... ;)


And about these previous posts, surely Cap is a fan of CZ, but his a fan of Panucci too, that certainly doesn't mean that he asked for them to Juve... He didn't ask for them because we didn't and don't need them as simple as that IMO...

And you're saying that being 3rd captain doesn't mean anything?! :howler: That's just funny, maybe it doesn't mean anything in Inter, but it definitely means something in Juve! He might not get to play hardly at all, but he'll stay with us as a bench player, we're not going to let our leaders leave so easily! Remember Conte too, I think that Tacchi will do like him, retire and become a scout or coach or something like that with us... :proud:

Gismo
13 Sep 04, 11:33
lol, Thuram was superb!!! And what about your depth then, if you lose Cordoba, you're screwed big time... :D
Oh yeah, then frankly I think you must be blindfolded. Do Materazzi, Burdisso and Gamarra ring a bell? Remember Gamarra last November? Del Dopo and the others had a reeaally hard time, didnt they? ;)

Bianconeri
13 Sep 04, 16:47
Materazzi: :dielaugh:
Burdisso: unproven
Gamarra: Fairly good, but can he play like that all the time, I doubt it...

Fabio
13 Sep 04, 17:04
Leggrotalie - :dielaugh:
Zebina - :dielaugh:
Thuram - :dielaugh: and :star:
Cannavaro - :dielaugh: and :star:
Iuliano - :dielaugh:
Montero - :dielaugh:

Ok so you have 6 defenders that can play in the middle of defence - not bad.The fact that only 2 of them are decent brings me tears of laughter! :proud:

Fabio :)

Frisko
13 Sep 04, 22:25
lol, Thuram was superb!!! And what about your depth then, if you lose Cordoba, you're screwed big time... :D

Yeah right, Burdisso is equal to Le Grottaglie and Gamarra to Montero in your fantasy world, I forgot...


Emerson's and Trez's injuries are only minor, Emo has muscular problems and I'm not sure about Trez, except that it isn't that serious...

Gazzetta.it said that Emerson has a knee the size of a watermelon and that he's out of the Ajax clash.


And about these previous posts, surely Cap is a fan of CZ, but his a fan of Panucci too, that certainly doesn't mean that he asked for them to Juve... He didn't ask for them because we didn't and don't need them as simple as that IMO...

Stop kidding yourself! We all know that there was a plan to swap Camoranesi with CZ!


And you're saying that being 3rd captain doesn't mean anything?! :howler: That's just funny, maybe it doesn't mean anything in Inter, but it definitely means something in Juve! He might not get to play hardly at all, but he'll stay with us as a bench player, we're not going to let our leaders leave so easily! Remember Conte too, I think that Tacchi will do like him, retire and become a scout or coach or something like that with us... :proud:

LOL you have plenty of candidates for that! Ferrara, Montero, Birindelli, Pessotto, Tacchinardi! Too bad that they didn't retire yet! Too bad for you, of course! :dielaugh:

Just explain to me what's the relevance of being 3rd captain (I never knew there was such thing anyway... Is there a 4th as well?).

Delirio Neroazzurro
13 Sep 04, 23:07
Actually I can't understand why should we compare Inter to Juventus....

I really don't care about Juventus..... there are 19 other teams..... we have to win against all of them.....that's al!!!!

Bianconeri
14 Sep 04, 09:36
nah, this is getting ridiculous know, only time will tell how they'll perform... And Frisko, Channel4 and Capello say that Emo will play against Ajax already... :D

And if you're thinking that... nah, I'm not going to finish the sentence, we'll know better after a month or something...

Bianconeri
28 Oct 04, 10:00
can we do this ridicilous comparison now, let's see what you guys think of Cordoba for example now... :D

Pravesh
28 Oct 04, 10:49
Bianconeri,

Don't forget that you are posting in an Inter-Forum.

;)

Gismo
28 Oct 04, 13:40
If you go on like this youll lose your nomination for the "Oscar". ;) Not that Im bothered by your style, just that many are.

Frisko
28 Oct 04, 15:30
So you think I would say that Cordoba is crap now.

I'll tell you what, if Moggi came to me and said: straight swap, you give us Cordoba and we'll give you one between Cannavaro and Thuram, I would:

1) Laugh my ass off.
2) Spit on his face.
3) Make the pig sound to remind him of his nature.
4) Beat the crap out of him.
5) Say: "No thank you, I'll keep Cafe'".
5) Repeat step 4 until the end of time.

Gismo
28 Oct 04, 15:36
:star: *Satisfied*

Besides Cordoba has regained his form.

Frisko
28 Oct 04, 16:03
Yeah some people said he was awful yesterday but I didn't see the game, and I don't trust Bobati's judgement at all! :P

He was awesome against Milan, but I heard people saying he was shaky, so I really want to see him myself to judge him. Same with Matrix, people always say he's crap even when he plays great.

snake
29 Oct 04, 00:20
Yeah some people said he was awful yesterday but I didn't see the game, and I don't trust Bobati's judgement at all! :P

He was awesome against Milan, but I heard people saying he was shaky, so I really want to see him myself to judge him. Same with Matrix, people always say he's crap even when he plays great.

Sorry Frisko, both crumbled yesterday.

ILuvInter
29 Oct 04, 02:05
I disagree with you guys !!

Cordoba wasn't bad yesterday , yet he hasn't gave his all . I mean matrix was awful but ofcourse he hasn't reached Montero or Leggrotalie's level of crappyiness :P . Cafe is so reliable and him alongside Burdisso as well as 2 ball winners will provide the 'balance' that we all demand .

About The swap : I'd hire Frisko to repeat what he has mentioned :D .

so Early and Yeah bianconieri ...If you want to do a comparison . We are all Open to doing this . plus we have created plenty of chances in Lecce's game , clear-cut chances . Mancio isn't the one who's responsible to Score .

Besides: Im gonna say something and actually it is time for this debate : I prefer Mancio than Capello . I like the way Mancio plays and enjoy soccer with his players , tactics though he needs to improve in the defensive tactics .

Gismo
29 Oct 04, 13:25
Cafe is so reliable and him alongside Burdisso as well as 2 ball winners will provide the 'balance' that we all demand .
Ive actually found Bur to even better than Matrix so far. :eek:

Before we gave Capello the cold shoulder and got Mancini instead I was pissed. Now Im actually very happy of what Ive seen from Mancini. Doubt Capello could do it better.

Fabio
29 Oct 04, 13:48
Yeah I agree with you two,I never really focused on how Mancini played his Lazio side but now he is with us,I have been pleasantly surprised.No wonder Moratti wanted him so much! :D

Capello = :finger:

Fabio :star:

Bianconeri
30 Oct 04, 08:32
Bianconeri,

Don't forget that you are posting in an Inter-Forum.

;)

sorry Prav and other guys, I've got my bad days too you know... :)


If you go on like this youll lose your nomination for the "Oscar". ;) Not that Im bothered by your style, just that many are.

To be honest, I don't care... :)

Gismo
30 Oct 04, 11:53
Forgiven. :)

Capello might have had a great start for Juventus. But at Inter I doubt just how much better he could have done. Whats changed now is that Mancini has brought a revolution with him. New mentality, better atmosphere, identity for the team, etc. Could Capello achieve this so early on? If we go on playing like we do now, its only a question of time before we start winning.

ArgentinaCRESPO
18 Jan 05, 10:09
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