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    The Blame Game

    There's no need to mention how Inter fans are feeling after the disastrous result we got last Sunday. Personally I was so angry that I had a throbbing pain in the middle of my chest and needed a few hours to calm down, but as I write this 8 hours later I still can't say that I'm writing this in cold blood. So as an exercise to help me calm myself down and finally go to sleep and try to forget is to do what all angry people like to do and that's blame people. So who should bear the blame for this 3rd defeat in our last four games.

    Management:

    Recently Gazzetta Dello Sport published an interview with former manager Gasperini where he showed us how the club was not co-perating with his vision for the club. They hired him knowing he played a certain way but instead of getting the right signings necessary to make the new mana... Wait, on second thought we haven't had a manager since Mourinho, a manager gets to at least manage club affairs, all we have is a head coach, he handles training ground matters and fields the team but these past two years we did not have a manager. Another good word instead of head coach is scapegoat because due to the incompetency of our management the head coach is the one who gets the sack. This goes all the way back to Rafa Benitez, who as we all know was not given a single signing, all he got was Biabiany to replace a player with the class of Balotelli and not to mention the lack of reinforcements in midfield. In retrospect I am always inclined to believe that with some faith, Rafa could have been great for this club because when Inter had its full team we did put on some good performances. Fast forward to Gasperini where we could see what happened with Benitez, you'd think management in retrospect would have learned from it's mistakes but no, we made the same mistakes not following the manager's vision and in lack of better words screwing him over. Gasp's targets were Criscito, a midfielder, Palacio and to keep Samuel Eto'o, he even accepted the fact that he had to sacrifice an important player like Sneijder. We all know what happened we sold Eto'o, got players with completely different attributes to what the scapegoat needed in a transfer market consisting of last minute buys simply to fill holes. Our management throughout these past transfer markets can be compared to someone fixing a hole in a sinking ship with a bandage. I could go on, on this but the topic has been done to death and any Inter fan with sense can see how management has failed the club.

    Ranieri

    In his defense Ranieri managed to string up a 7 game winning streak, including a lovely derby win which gave us hope that we might get a Champions League spot by the end of the season. I don't need to elaborate on our feelings now, but even though the argument to defend Ranieri may seem thin, he's definitely more defensible than management. Let's just see how management has failed Ranieri, all he requested in the January market was to keep Thiago Motta and a wide forward. We know what happened, we got rid of our midfield talisman because we didn't want to renew his contract, and brought in two midfielders and no change in attack. We lost a player who like him or hate him is indispensable, especially when you're looking at how our team tend to win with Motta on the pitch. But the argument against Ranieri, is how in today's game he removed Alvarez in half time, a player who is more likely to create something for Pazzini (more on this later). This meant that our only threat out wide was Chivu and that after we conceded Forlan came on and ended up playing in a wide position something Alvarez is more suited. Not to mention that someone like Coutinho could have fit in pretty well in this kind of situation but we sent him away, you know creativity isn't important Inter. But I can't say that I am smarter than Ranieri at his job obviously but his substitutions sometimes tend to be mind boggling.

    Players:
    Well, I think I was mainly disappointed with Sneijder. Ranieri kept him on as a trequartista who's job is usually to create, however he kept on shooting shots wide and was causing more damage to the infrastructure of the Meazza rather than causing damage to Novara. I think someone with the vision of Sneijder should be creating chances for his team mates which led to his arguments with Pazzini on the pitch. Pazzini needs assists and Sneijder doesn't provide them, Sneijder's drive and hot head tends to work against him as he tries to win games on his own at times. But also Wesley seems to be bereft of confidence and it's only a matter of months until he leaves us for greener pastures. Though this may be exclusively on Sneijder, it's because everyone expects more from the Dutchman because he is our star player and you'd expect him to play as such. I think the criticism on Pazzini is harsh as he wasn't provided a decent ball all game, and the only one he got was in the last minute with a great save from Ujkani. Oh and one can't forget Chivu, pathetic defending on the goal, if he simply kept the defensive line, Caracciolo would have been miles offside.

    So there may be other factors to our loss today, I think bad luck at the end of the day did play a role but a team like Inter cannot make such an excuse when it comes to a home game against the team who's last. If I had to pass a percentage to each factor I mentioned above taking a macro approach, I'd give 55% of the blame to management, 20% to Ranieri and 25% to the players. One has to also give credit to Novara for taking advantage of our pathetic defending which suffers against speed and vertical passes cut us open like hot knives through butter and also credit to Mondonico a class manager. But any way as I end this with a rage, not caring about grammatical errors and spelling mistakes I wish my fellow Interisti around the world a good night's sleep and hopefully better days to come.

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    Hhhmmmmm I would put most of the blame on the management. Yes they did hire totally different managers with different totally tactics, and yes they did NOT give them any help to them i.e. in transfers, finances, and scouting of potential new players, no help at all.

    On the subject of Ranieri, I don't expect much from him he's a quick fix, a band-aide manager if you will, we knew what we were getting when we hired him. But his substitutions have been a mess, his tactics has been bizarre and the way he plays Sneijder he is definitely not getting any results from it.

    After the treble the whole world thought we were going to improve the squad and build on that success, the whole world was shocked when we stood still in the transfer window, I might say we even took major steps back in selling players like Balotelli and Eto'o and re-sign players that have lost their pace or just can't cut it anymore at the top. So now here we are a year and a half from the famous treble with virtually the same squad bar 3 players. We had the oldest squad in the Champions League when we won it and it shows tremendously this season in the Serie A. So I can't really put the blame on the players because they are old or ineffective, the management say they are preparing us for FFP but yet re-signed 4-5 players to major contracts for that treble.

    I really can't comprehend why our management act like novices in their profession, it sometimes looks like they have no clue on how to run a successful major club. I by no means say that I can do a better job then them but when I look at other major clubs in the world no club has made so many faults or blunders.


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    The management is where majority of my blame would go. Considering what we sold and took, it hasn't been as active as I hoped.

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    The management has a lot of blame to face. But going beyond that there is some cancer that plagues our team. Its not about the money or coach or tactics on the pitch. There isn't a winning mentality at this club, and the old guard is responsible for that. Why can Milan sign talents like Pato, El Shaarawi, Merkel and get them to perform on the pitch; while we get talents like Alvarez and Coutinho who don't cut it. I don't doubt the talent behind these but a deeper factor makes them suck in our colours. They grow mediocre players like Abate who can contribute on the pitch, we grow mediocre ones like Obi who don't. They can sign a washed up player like Van Bommel and still get him to help winning a title, while our not-yet-washed-up stars like Forlan can't make a cross. Even an average forward like Maxi can do it for them but a far more talented Zarate Over the years, we weren't able to effectively utilize probably one of the most versatile and talented midfielders like Seedorf while he went on to create history with them.

    For me, it goes beyond the coach, management, and tactics. Its just our DNA which is suffering due to mentality of our older players. We needed a Mourinho to shake things up across Italy so we could do something. It was his attitude that overpowered all others in the squad. But Mourinho needed an inspired Milito, Sneijder in the form of his life and Eto'o to do it for him. I have no doubt that even Mourinho could not repeat the feat with us since the squad by itself was just not good enough. The likes of Zanetti, Cambiasso, Chivu, Stankovic are not meant to drive games, or hold possession or set a winning culture. It worked when the reins were held by in-form Sneijder+Milito under Mourinho. Now when they are expected to lead the club, we are back to our mediocre best.

    If you look at yesterday's game against Novara, the best players were Sneijder and Poli. We had no threat from fullback positions. Cambiasso was pure Everytime he got the ball, it was directly given to the person beside him and he ran forward without offering the player a support pass or 1-2 opportunity. The less said about RB and LB threats, the better. We have to get rid of the old guard at the earliest. The dressing room cannot be led by influence of our beloved captain and Cambiasso. There has to be some shakeup there.
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    Yes, the team does lack confidence but two years ago the Milan team didn't have the great mentality it had today and not even Juve until last season, I think confidence comes from winning. And to win you need a winning squad with a clear vision from management and the club manager, we don't have that.
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    the thing I hate about us is that we wait until the last minute to make any deals, If we have a competent management, our summer targets must already be drawn up along with the coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    In what way is the rivalry with Juventus and Milan different?

    “There is no comparison. On one hand, we have a duel within the city, a constant and direct confrontation. On the other, we have a historical hostility. Sportingly speaking, the real enemy is Juventus.”

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    Blame the treble! Blame the fucking treble!

    We were never good enough to win and shouldn't have won it in the first place. Had we not won, the management would have continued to invest and go for the right players.
    But the victory instilled the FALSE belief that our squad was good enough and could also compete with a new manager The reason Mou left was that he knew he couldn't repeat or do too much with the same squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockball View Post
    The reason Mou left was that he knew he couldn't repeat or do too much with the same squad.
    Doesn't it also have to do with being paid more and wanting a new challenge since he wants to win Spain?

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    I don't think the treble was a bad thing, even Barca kept reinvesting after winning theirs, we didn't and that's the problem. That season we were the best and we deserved to win it because we beat every one who was worth beating.
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    Lets forget it, focus on the future. Everyone is to blame from the top to the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coasterfreek View Post
    Doesn't it also have to do with being paid more and wanting a new challenge since he wants to win Spain?
    Maybe he needed a new challenge. You can never be sure of what he thought; but I have a feeling that he reached the peak and extracted every bit of juice from our players to be able to repeat similar heights again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.l.i View Post
    Lets forget it, focus on the future. Everyone is to blame from the top to the bottom.
    Not true.. I have nothing to do with it.

    Shit doesnt happen

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    maybe the atmosphere as a whole at the club can be blamed, how has boateng become a world class player suddenly at milan, van bommel is 34 is performing like a boss, how is el sharaway looking like neymar, nocerino an average player becomes a world beater ,while luc castaignos for us has flopped, andrea poli barely gets game time, forlan is always injured, pazzini is average

    something wrong has just ingrained itself in our fucking system
    how can juventus with an average team at best perform like they are, I wouldnt be surprised if mesbah turns out to be a new zambrotta or something, and poli ends up in milan and becomes the new pirlo or something

    The whole atmosphere at our club needs to change, and it must start with morrati, there is no question that morrati love inter more than maybe all of us combined, but it has to be said that he has been a very incompetent president.

    After the calcipoli, we had a great opputunity,

    Did our revenue increase -NO
    Did we get a new stadium -NO
    Did we monopolise the youth in Italy -NO

    It is also fair to say that we won mostly because of calcipoli,

    As an Inter fan we must love mortti, but as a president and the leader of inter he has been very poor

    For all the money he spent, we should have been the dominant team not only in italy but in the world in the late 90's and early 2000's
    not milan or juventus

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    Well, look at it this wasy in 2010 all our players looked great, just like last season Juve's players looked clueless, it's results which bring confidence and right now we're not getting them and therefore we're lacking confidence. Leo use to say that winning is the thing that helps mentality and he knows how to help players' morale. #Winning, I'm Charlie Sheen
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    we were on a 7 match winning streak

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    Yeah, then we start losing and the team was once again bereft of confidence because we have no clear style of play. We weren't winning convincingly either, in our last win Ranieri criticized the team so...
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