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    Out: Sneijder 32
    Maicon 18.5
    Pazzini 18
    JC 18
    Rannocchia 15

    In: Messi 100
    Isla 10.5
    poli 5.5
    Viviano 5
    Lucas 10

    leaves 0.5

    so...
    <br />
0 0 0 Milito 0 0 0<br />
0 Lucas 0 0 0 Messi 0<br />
0 0 0 Alvarez 0 0 0<br />
0 0 Cambiasso 0 Poli 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
Zanetti 0 Samuel 0 Lucio 0 Isla<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
       Viviano<br />

    Subs/Resevers
    GKs: Castelazzi, Obrlandoni
    Def: Cordoba, Chivu, Juan, Nagatomo, Faraoni
    Mid: Stankovic, Obi, Coutinho, Bessa and other decent primavers players
    Att: Forlan, Castaignos, Primavera players
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    This is a joke,just for a laugh and is obviously pure fantasy anyway, but all that being said, if it were possible, I dont think anyone would object to having Messi

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    Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo should cost ∞ for this purpose....



    I'm making my own trying to be as realistic as possible.


    In:
    Kucka (5.0M)
    Lavezzi (26M)
    Federico Fernandez (3.3M)
    Kolarov (17M)
    Poli (5.5M)
    Isla (10.5M)
    Ilic (8.5M)
    Luis Muriel (3.0M)

    Total: 78,8M


    Out:
    Forlán (6.5M)
    Pazzini (18M)
    Sneijder (32M)
    Maicon (18.5M)
    Obi (4.0M)
    Lucio (6.0M)
    Muntari (5.0M)

    Total: 90M



    Julio Cesar
    Castelazzi

    Zanetti
    Jonathan
    Kolarov
    Nagatomo

    Ranocchia
    Samuel
    Federico Fernandez
    Juan
    Cordoba

    Poli
    Cambiasso
    Crisetig

    Stankovic
    Kucka
    Faraoni
    Isla

    Ilic
    Alvarez
    Coutinho

    Lavezzi
    Milito
    Castaignos
    Luis Muriel



    Hmm... I'm gonna try this on FM.
    Last edited by douglasthiago; 14 Apr 12 at 17:34.

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    Kostas 22: Sotiris Ninis wont be free agent, he will join Parma in the summer.
    /Damn you grammar Nazis
    Last edited by Uncommon; 13 Apr 12 at 18:27.
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    Why suggest it then?

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    Throw Sneijder, Deki, Chivu, Lucio, Ranocchia, Pazzini, Forlan, Maicon out, loan Casta and Jonathan, send Zarate and Palombo back
    buy Poli, Guarin for the fuck of it, and bring Coutinho back, use some of the primavera players to fill the spots

    buy Hummels [probably impossible], Isla, Doumbia!!!!!, Lavezzi, Vertonghen, Bent [another impossible buy, but I always liked him as a striker]
    and there could still be 10 mils left (for the winter haha)
    I would still play with the 4-3-3 most of the games

    Lavezzi-Milito-Doumbia [for pace pace pace]
    Poli-Guarin
    Cambiasso
    Zanetti - Samuel - Hummels - Isla
    J.Cesar

    possible people on the bench: Castelazzi, Vertonghen, Coutinho, Alvarez, Obi, Nagatomo, Bent, Bessa, Faraoni,....
    the bench looks lovely!


    what do you say?
    gotta play my FM again haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostas22 View Post
    I've just had an idea.

    Using transfermarkt as a price guide, the challenge is as follows; build the best possible 'New Inter' team, where no player can cost more than €15m, and you have a total transfer budget of €30m. You can sell existing players using the valuation on transfermarkt. What can we do on a budget? Is there hope for an FFP-throttled Inter squad?
    if your talking about moneyball tactics like in baseball then this isnt how it works. oakland, boston, texas and chicago(white soxs) used the "moneyball" strategy in baseball by building the best statistic teams their budgets could buy. kinda like fantasy ball. in soccer it would be like buying the best goal/assist/passes players and not really considering the defensive side of the game. but i dont wanna rain on your parade to much so ill play along.

    budget 15 mil. formation 433

    players i would sell, assuming that someone would buy them..
    pazzini--18
    sneijder--25
    maicon--12
    stankovic--4
    lucio--8
    castigainos--10
    forlan--5
    obi--12
    thats a total of 94 million from players sold. so 109mil purse.
    players i would buy, somewhat fair prices..
    huntelaar--18
    di maria--25
    farfan--freetransfer
    montolivo--freetransfer
    robinho--11
    subatic--15
    ramierz--12
    gaurin--13
    zarate--14
    (extend chivus contract)

    robinho/zarate----huntelaar/milito----dimaria/farfan

    poli/ricky--------------ramierz/gaurin
    cambiasso/montolivo

    naga/jaun---samuel/chivu---rano/subatic---pharos/zanetti
    jc/castelazzi

    fm to the extreme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "It is not a conspiracy, it is fact. I speak facts. If not, I need big glasses" - the special one

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    Budget = 15 million

    Sell
    Pazzini (18 million)
    Maicon (18.5 million)
    Forlan (A stack of training cones)
    Lucio (6 million)
    Sneijder (32 million)
    Cordoba (Retired)
    Chivu (GTFO)
    Muntari (Free)

    New Total: 104.5 million + training cones

    Buy
    Lavezzi (26 million - 8 from Pandev = 18 million)
    Kolarov (17 million)
    Hummels (20 million)
    Buy Poli (8 million)
    Buy Zarate (14 million)
    Get Coutinho back

    Spent = 77 million

    0 0 0 Milito 0 0 0<br />
0 Lavezzi 0 0 0 Zarate 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 Obi 0 Cambiasso 0 Poli 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
Kolarov 0 Hummels 0 Samuel 0 Zanetti<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
Cesar

    Bench: Casta; Juan; Alvarez; Coutinho; Deki;

    Tried to keep it realistic
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    Forlan (A stack of training cones)

    i dont think he will be leaving unfortunately
    "It is not a conspiracy, it is fact. I speak facts. If not, I need big glasses" - the special one

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    Training cones? Come on man, we can obviously get more than that.

    We could maybe even get lucky and get some free kick dummies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncommon View Post
    Kostas 22: Sotiris Ninis wont be free agent, he will join Parma in the summer.
    I had no idea, on account of English language media never reported it! Had to go to a Polish website to confirm that for myself. Indeed, it seems Parma have signed a possible gem here, considering he'll cost nothing. I bet a few years down the line a bigger club ends up paying millions for him and Parma will have pocketed a tidy profit from this.

    @apahllo That was my original intention, but then I realised obviously we don't have access to the ProZone database so no way to make accurate conclusions. Although I understand on pure statistics Lucas Leiva is one of the best players in the world

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    Sell/Release...

    - 12 Castellazzi (Dont mind him staying)
    - 21 Orlandoni
    - 2 Cordoba
    - 6 Lucio 6m
    - 23 Ranocchia 15m
    - 26 Chivu
    - 5 Stankovic 6.5m
    - 17 Palombo
    - 28 Zarate
    - 7 Pazzini 18m
    - 9 forlan 6.5m
    - 27 Pandev 12m

    Sales 64m

    Buy/Recall

    Bardi/Belec
    Caldirola
    Mariga
    Coutinho
    Poli 6m
    Guarin 11m
    Farfan free
    Montolivo free
    Isla 10.5
    Vertonghen 12m
    One of Subotic 18m/Hummels 20m
    Muriel 3m
    One of Lewandowski 15m, Ba 15m, Cisse 13.5m or cheap option Sulejmani 7m.

    Spending 77.5m




    JC/BARDI/DI GENARRO

    Maicon/Isla...Hummels/Vertonghen...Samuel/Juan/Caldirola...Zanetti/Nagatomo/Faraoni

    (DPM)Montolivo/Guarin/Poli/Alvarez/Obi....Cambiasso/Mariga/Zanetti(DM)

    Sneijder/Alvarez/Coutinho

    Farfan/Isla/Guarin/Muriel.......................................Lewan dowski/Coutinho/Obi/Nagatomo

    Milito/Lewandowski/Castaignos
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    To me Zanetti represents the joy of living, the joy of making football your job every morning. He is the smile, the life force, the passion for training, the good cheer for everyone who works with him. To me Javier Zanetti is all of these things, and he is a man that I'm happy to say will be a friend forever.
    After all of that, and a long way behind, comes the footballer. But having been his coach for only two years of his incredible career, it's not my place to talk about a man who has written his own story - and what a marvellous story it is. All I will say is thank you for everything, thank you for giving me a small space in your story. What I will cherish most is that hug in the middle of the Santiago Bernabeu: it won't be the last but it was certainly the most intense of our two years together.
    Perhaps one day somebody might beat Zanetti's record, but there will only ever be one Zanetti.

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    haha where did you guys see Muriel is worth 3 million all I see is Udinese saying F-NO to $10 million euro.

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    It's the site's estimate. I don't see anyone paying 32 million euros for Sneijder either but that's part of the game.

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    I am tired of this conformist defeated attitude some of you are showing. There is no way we will only invest $15 million on this team this summer especially after such a shitty season. The fans will riot if we bring 1 guy or just buy Guarin and Poli.

    We need two really good strikers and a two good CBs.

    Some might be tired of this but BUY FING FALCAO AND SUAREZ !!! No better Strikers are realistic buys.

    Buy -$115 million if more realstic don't buy falcao still $65 million
    Guarin - 7.5 million
    Poli - 4.5 million
    Falcao - 50 million
    Isla - 12 million
    Armero - 8 million
    Suarez - 25 million euro
    Astori - 8 million euro
    Sahin - 10 million or loan
    -------------------------JC------------------------
    Isla-------Rano----------Astori---------Armero
    -Cou---Guarin---Poli/Sahin----------Obi/Poli----------
    -----------Falcao--------Suarez


    Sell - $100 million + wages saved
    Maicon - 8-10
    Lucio - 5-8 million
    Sneijder - 25 million
    Forlan - 5 million
    Jonathan - 3 million
    Pazzo - 19 million euro
    Alvarez - 12-15 million euro
    Stank - free
    Cordoba - retired
    Viviano - 10 million or trade for Armero/Astori
    Palombo - send back
    Pandev - 8 million euro or trade for Astori
    Chivu - free
    Paolo Orlandoni - Free

    Players I'd keep or sell if they don't agree to wage cuts.
    Cambiasso - makes to much and sub be a sub
    Milito - same makes way to much and we need new blood but has been great this season
    Samuel - I really pray he doesn't start next year and if he does then sell Rano for 12 million

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    ^^That team, and we will score 2, and concede 5 goals per game. Where's the defense? You don't play two attacking full backs, Coutinho as RM, or Poli as LM, and so on.

    Besides, read what's this thread about, it's not your ideal squad, but kinda "game" using transfermarkt prices.
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    Someone should re-title this thread as it has absolutely nothing to do with Moneyball whatsoever. Football Manager does Inter would be far more appropriate.
    Sometimes this, Sometimes that, always Inter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post
    ^^That team, and we will score 2, and concede 5 goals per game. Where's the defense? You don't play two attacking full backs, Coutinho as RM, or Poli as LM, and so on.
    Come on... Falcao will score at least 5 goals per game... we'll be fine...

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    That last team.. I just wonder who the captain is.. and what the incumbent captain should do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inter1991- View Post
    Someone should re-title this thread as it has absolutely nothing to do with Moneyball whatsoever. Football Manager does Inter would be far more appropriate.
    Agree, absolutely nothing to do with the moneyball concept.
    Check my Downfall parody of Inter transfer summer 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGoSfx-3x8Q

    My review of current Inter: http://forzainterforums.com/showthre...703#post862703

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