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Thread: What is Strama planning for his 4-5-1?

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    What is Strama planning for his 4-5-1?

    So it seems Strama wants to switch Inter to a 4-5-1 (4-2-3-1/wide defensive 4-3-3...)

    Its not my favorite formation, but it IS defensively sound. So (assuming) Milito is staying, Sneijder is going, how will we line up next year? I think our defense is in flux, ATM, with Chivu, Lucio (as well as Maicon?) leaving, and a first choice LB nowhere to be seen (although Zanetti could play the part for at least a season).

    Well, if its true we are looking to play 4-5-1 and we are after Lavezzi and Lucas, then its quite clear we want them to play either as inverted winger on the left, or just behind the main striker. With Sneijder's (seemingly imminent) exit, that leaves a spot for Coutinho, either behind the striker or out wide.

    Gaurin has been confirmed, so it is likely one of the two deeper MC spots will be his, alongside Poli/Cambiasso.

    Ranocchia and Samuel look likely to play key parts next year, but surely another CB must arrive to replace Cordoba, Lucio and Chivu leaving. Juan Jesus... Well, no one has seen him, so who knows what his level is. We can only guess it is even lower than the club thought when we purchased him.

    The conclusion we can draw if these assumptions are largely correct are:
    Inter badly needs Lucas or Lavezzi, or at worst, the return of Pandev, because the player brought in will be a key component of our attack.

    Inter badly needs a RW for the formation, unless thats where Coutinho fits in. I can't see who would play this role for us out of the current squad other than him.

    And last, but not least, we need a quality LB and another CB. I am hopeful of Otamendi and Tabanou, it would be promising, but we will have to wait and see. RB will probably be filled between Zanetti, Jonathan, and Nagatomo (who will also be backup LB) if Maicon is sold.

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    I think we'll get a player like Palacio or (preferably) Alejandro Gomez. Then we have Sneijder, Coutinho, Alvarez and Alejandro Gomez as OM's.

    Then I think he'll switch between 4-3-2-1 and 4-2-3-1. He'll regulate as the opposition we'll meet. But, having our mind that we have Poli, Guarin, Cambiasso, Obi, Stankovic and a new midfielder as CM's, I think 4-3-2-1 will be our main starting formation, and playing 4-2-3-1 when we have the players ready and the opposition makes it logic to do so.

    Btw: I think Stramaccioni would've liked to have 4-2-3-1 as our starting formation, but we have too many CM's and too few OM's that it's not worth it.

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    Sorry but I don't really get this thread. What makes you think Strama will play 4-2-3-1 instead of 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 (call it what you want)? And why are you so convinced about the departure of Sneijder? Sneijder himself said he wants to stay and Moratti said he was part of the future of Inter. So unless there comes a huge offer, he won't leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman View Post
    Sorry but I don't really get this thread. What makes you think Strama will play 4-2-3-1 instead of 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 (call it what you want)? And why are you so convinced about the departure of Sneijder? Sneijder himself said he wants to stay and Moratti said he was part of the future of Inter. So unless there comes a huge offer, he won't leave.
    I don't see how 4-3-3 and Sneijder can co-exist. I guess that's why he made assumptions for a 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-3-1. As Il Maestro said, right now it looks more like we'll be playing some sort of 4-3-2-1 as we have plenty of CMs. Though with Coutinho coming back and with some good transfer strategy there's still a lot of space for speculation...
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    Well could he play as LCM in a 4-3-3 with wingers Coutinho/Alvarez or whoever we'll bring there.Has he to play mainly always as CAM?I mean as an LCM with Cuchu CDM and Guaro as RCM?Or this is bullshit right?Am i failin big time?
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    4-3-3 and 4-3-2-1 is basically the same. The difference is that 4-3-3 is bit wider, and 4-3-2-1 gives more freedom to those 2 behind the striker. Don't see the fuss about it, it's the tactics that matters, not the formation only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post
    4-3-3 and 4-3-2-1 is basically the same. The difference is that 4-3-3 is bit wider, and 4-3-2-1 gives more freedom to those 2 behind the striker. Don't see the fuss about it, it's the tactics that matters, not the formation only.
    yes exactly. But that little freedom for those two behind the striker gained by switching from 4-3-3 to 4-3-2-1 is essential when it comes to Sneijder. I don't see any position for Sneijder in a 4-3-3. Gasperini tried putting him in the attack, Ranieri tried him as LCM, both versions sucked. Strama is giving him pretty much the freedom he needs. There's also a good place for Sneijder in the 4-2-3-1 behind Milito.

    I too think that formations are way overrated as they don't win games. But when thinking about a certain formation that would limitate Sneijders freedom, I just see how he'll get pissed again as he was under Ranieri.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post
    4-3-3 and 4-3-2-1 is basically the same. The difference is that 4-3-3 is bit wider, and 4-3-2-1 gives more freedom to those 2 behind the striker. Don't see the fuss about it, it's the tactics that matters, not the formation only.
    I do not agree with that statement because there's a important difference in our 4-2-3-1 and our 4-3-2-1. In a 4-2-3-1 there are four attacking minded players who (unless you have Mourinho as your coach who made Eto'o and Pandev defend like full-backs) don't defend that much. In a 4-3-2-1 there are only three attacking minded players, it's not like Sneijder goes one line back to play as a lcm. No he plays as a left attacking midfielder because he isn't good at defending. Since we play in the Serie A and our defence isn't that good anymore I prefer the 4-3-2-1. Also Sneijder actually played well as a left attacking midfielder under Strama.

    But I agree that we can use both formations. Against the weaker teams a 4-2-3-1 would be fine I guess. But it's defenitly not the same as a 4-3-2-1.

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    I didn't mention 4-2-3-1, but 4-3-3 and 4-3-2-1 which are basically the same.
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    Strama has already said he is planning a 4-3-3. http://www.football-italia.net/18883...s-scudetto-bid What this looks like will be interesting but his reason was that it is the best formation to cover the field. This means we should expect width. Sneijder does not want to play a deep role because he prefers to play closer to the striker. He made a big fuss when Benitez tried to play him in a deeper role.

    Given that we need Sneijder playing near a striker, he wants to play with width and he has asked for Coutinho and Jonathan back I think he will play a 4-2-3-1. Sneijder's praise of Strama also suggests he has been told he is wanted and will be made an important part of the team in a position he enjoys i.e. off the striker.

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    Im not convinced by Alvarez as a starter there and he might end up being cover for an injury prone Sniejder. Instead Zanetti or Obi might start there as a more defensive option with Maicon providing the overlap. Alternatively he might put faith in Castaignos who for me showed promise under Gasperini.

    Cambiasso and Guarin are both comfortable on the ball and moving forward so we have a double pivot. With such good fullbacks I think the wingers could be less attacking (obi might get a lot of playing time).

    This side would have a lot of excellent movement and some brilliant players technically. Obviously this all assumes the squad stays as it is. If Lavezzi or Gomez do come they would be an obvious choice on the right. Not at all convinced by Sahin rumours. He is an excellent player but we don't need someone like him if we are committed to playing with width.

    The Europa League also allows young players to be blooded in which is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post
    I didn't mention 4-2-3-1, but 4-3-3 and 4-3-2-1 which are basically the same.
    Ah, that's just stupid from me I'm sorry, than I totally agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeruTituli View Post
    -----------Jay Z
    Maicon-Frog - Samuel - Nagatomo
    ------Guarin--Cambiasso
    Alvarez--Sneijder--Coutinho
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    Quite right. JC.

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    you know sneijder can play in a 4-3-3 if the 3 is played with 2 defensive mids and 1 attacking mid, instead of 1 defensive mid and 2 central mids. so a bit like 4-2-1-3. which inter played under mourinho against weaker teams, cause with stronger ones wingers became like side mids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninuk View Post
    you know sneijder can play in a 4-3-3 if the 3 is played with 2 defensive mids and 1 attacking mid, instead of 1 defensive mid and 2 central mids. so a bit like 4-2-1-3. which inter played under mourinho against weaker teams, cause with stronger ones wingers became like side mids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeruTituli View Post
    -----------Jay Z
    Maicon-Frog - Samuel - Nagatomo
    ------Guarin--Cambiasso
    Alvarez--Sneijder--Coutinho
    ---------Milito

    Im not convinced by Alvarez as a starter there and he might end up being cover for an injury prone Sniejder. Instead Zanetti or Obi might start there as a more defensive option with Maicon providing the overlap. Alternatively he might put faith in Castaignos who for me showed promise under Gasperini.
    It seems like Palacio is the answer to that riddle. It's a very strong front 4 now. OOF!

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    Yeah, its looking more and more like 4-2-3-1. You can call it so many things though, its still basically the same formation. The key for me is the AM/ST partnership, and its what convinces me we will play this way. Milito looks set to play a key role next season, as do Coutinho and Alvarez. Sneijder, well, I hope he stays. I won't be convinced otherwise until September 1st!

    Our recent track record of selling anyone worth over $20m is what I am going on.

    Any way, looking to next season, it seems Palacio is who Strama will be using on the RW, cutting into the middle, and occasionally looking to get to the byline. I think we overpaid and got him arguably a year late, but I think he can do a job for us. I would certainly have preferred someone u25 though.

    Our fullback situation and backline in general still worries me, at the moment. Needs some serious reinforcements there, Ogbonna and a LB, plus hopefully Lavezzi, and we can at least say we had a good mercato, if not a good season!

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    Id rather we went with 4312

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerazzurri_Ninja View Post
    Id rather we went with 4312

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    Like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Like this?

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    No, like thsi:

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