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    Primavera Report Card 2011-2012

    Hopefully this will give people an idea of where our youth team stands, what expectations we have of players, and how people performed. Where to look for potential future stars, and also how we shape up for next season.


    Di Gennaro
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 5/5

    A breakout season for the youth keeper, he was initially not expected to be the automatic first team starter, and instead, compete with Andrea Sala for minutes. Di Gennaro instead has secured his place with some exceptional games, and looks set to follow Belec and Bardi with loans to Serie B sides for minutes next season.
    Future
    He needs to work on his handling a bit. With respect to reflexes, he's extremely good. His command of the area is also pretty good, but sometimes his handling/stopping can let him down and lead to unnecessary rebounds.

    Andrea Sala
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 1/5

    Brought in on loan to compete with Di Gennaro for a first team spot, a series of mistakes have left him completely out of pecking for the first team place. He looks insecure, off confidence, and simply not very good. Such was his fall from grace that Dalle Vella was considered in his place for the Primavera Final.

    Future
    He will be going back out to his parent club, with his loan not being finalized.


    Rodrigo Alborno
    Expectations - 5/5
    Final score - 3/5

    Alborno arrived at Inter under a huge banner, and a large reputation. He has, sadly, failed to deliver on that. The younger Ibrahim MBaye very quickly took the left back spot for himself, whilst leaving Alborno often on the bench, or playing as the reserve right back /left winger. Alborno has done well, though, its no fault on him, but rather, a success of MBaye. A year of adaptation to Inter and Italy, and he seems to be quite a large Inter fan as well, certainly one to keep your eyes on.

    Future
    Most likely a loan next season to a Serie B side, he needs playing time. MBaye is not only over a year younger, but also better defensively, Alborno needs to define his role a bit more.


    Andrea Bandini
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 2/5

    Andrea Bandini is one for next season's Primavera. He has been on the bench alot, and played a bit, as he looks to be phased in as the first choice right back for next season. He's always looked at least okay when playing.

    Future
    Next season will be crucial. It will be when he stakes his claim for being in the Primavera starting line up, and could make or break him.


    Matteo Bianchetti
    Expectations - 4/5
    Final score - 3/5

    Bianchetti was quite highly rated, after his call up to the first team training camp at the start of the season. He's not really staked his starting line up claim as well as he would have liked, but has looked pretty solid when playing (Even in big matches). He will probably be disappointed with his season, but with Kysela and Spendlhofer looking like moving out on loan, Bianchetti might get his chance next season.

    Future
    Most likely a loan to help him develop, he needs to play consistently at this age. Perhaps, depending on the defensive capabilities of the Allievi, he might stay on in the Primavera.


    Eugenio Giannetti
    Expectations - 1/5
    Final score - 1/5

    Did not expect anything from this player. He duly delivered, with little if any game time.

    Future
    Possibly one for next season's Primavera, but more likely a loan to a mediocre side and nothing further, does not look particularly great for him


    Marek Kysela
    Expectations - 4/5
    Final score - 4/5

    Developing reasonably well at centre back, it would be premature to call him any kind of rock. He's done quite well (though has given away a penalty or two in his time) but needs to develop further. He's first choice centre back alongside Spendlhofer, but not the better of the pair in my opinion.

    Future
    Leaving Inter is certain, most likely on loan. He's too old for the Primavera in the coming season.


    Ibrahima MBaye
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 5/5

    A real breakthrough season for MBaye, he was brought in to compete with Alborno for the left back spot and not only did he make it his own, the left back spot is being renamed the MBaye position because he claimed it so well. A year younger than everyone else in the Primavera, first team call ups loom for next season.

    Future
    Probably staying at Inter to play with the Primavera next season, he will also be expected to feature in a few first team games. He needs to learn to calm down though, he's quick to get involved in fights and easy to frustrate. See his red card in the NextGen final for example.


    Marco Benassi
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 2/5

    He's looked solid whenever he has played, he's one for next season.

    Future
    A starter in next season's Primavera side.


    Daniel Bessa
    Expectations - 4/5
    Final score - 5/5

    Phenomenal season from Bessa. He consistently looked a class above the league matches he was playing in. For those in the know, people would have expected him to break through in such a manner, but to predict it would be quite so big, would have been much more difficult. A phenomenal season.

    Future
    Loan out to a Serie A or B side looks on the cards, but if not, he'll be in the first team squad.



    Roberto Candido
    Expectations -2/5
    Final score - 1/5

    Candido will be disappointed with his season. He hasn't played very much, and he's not in preparation for next season's Primavera.

    Future
    He could be a surprise player for the Primavera next season as he would still be eligible, but most likely, an exit from Inter



    Joseph Duncan
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 5/5

    Another one of our stand out stars this summer, Duncan is a player not many people would have heard of at the start of the season. He's battled for his midfield place and his skillsets are far far greater than the 'midfield destroyer' people type cast him as. A great young player in the making.

    Future
    Loan to a decent side, or first team action for sure, next season will involve first team minutes for Duncan either way.



    Gianmarco Falasca
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 1/5

    As Candido, another of our players who have not really contributed much to the season, he'll be disappointed with himself.

    Future
    An exit from Inter is most likely, perhaps a loan out.



    Simone Pasa
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 3/5

    He's played pretty well in the few minutes he has had this season, he's definitely one to keep for next season's Primavera, as he is of the '94 class.

    Future
    Starting player for next season's Primavera



    Simone Pecorini
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 4/5

    Cleverly converted by Stramaccioni to a right-back, he made the starting berth his own with some impressive defensive displays. Only ruined by his attack on a referee in the NextGen final, seeing him banned until the end of September.


    Future
    A loan to a Serie B club is almost certain, the ban will not have too much affect on his footballing development



    Andrea Romano
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 4/5

    A decent season from the Primavera captain, he looked better than his partner Crisetig at most times. Used as a free roaming attacking midfielder at times, ranging to a playmaking midfielder, he has looked reasonably solid and has come on a long way.

    Future
    A loan to a serie B side, or co-ownership, is almost definitely on for Andrea.



    Lorenzo Crisetig
    Expectations - 5/5
    Final score - 3/5

    Perhaps a controversial view, I feel he's been quite disappointing. He's failed to take any games by the scruff of the neck, and he doesn't look as assured as one would expect in possession. Needs to work on staying calm under pressure and making the right decisions.


    Future
    A loan to Parma is almost certain, hopefully he can stake his claim but realistically he'll play very little next season.


    Lukas Spendlhofer
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 4/5

    A player who really came into his own halfway through the season, he's looked quite solid at the back. A loan out will be on the cards, and will be crucial to see how he develops.


    Future
    Hopefully a loan where he can play a lot of first team action, he could go either way currently.



    Francesco Forte
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 4/5

    Has looked fairly decent every time he's played, he's one for next season's Primavera again. Decent attacker, who has filled in as one of the subs when necessary, he's started a few games as well.

    Future
    still needs to develop an awful lot, this season wasnt bad for him. Hopefully next season he will be the starting striker along with Terrani, and as such, we can make a much better assessment.



    Marko Livaja
    Expectations - 4/5
    Final score - 4/5

    Livaja was brought in under a large move from Cesena, Inter fans have been anticipating him for a couple of seasons. He's played well as an inside forward, making good runs and getting into dangerous positions. However, his goalscoring ability is almost non existent. He's scored a couple of times, but fails to get into dangerous positions, and when he does, he's not very clinical. Is a good inside forward, but not a great striker.

    Future
    A loan out, or perhaps first team fringes next year, he needs to develop. If he can get a good goalscoring season in, that might make all the difference.


    Samuele Longo
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 5/5

    The big break through in the second half of the season, he made up for a slow or even somewhat disappointing first half by truly dominating the second half. Rightfully awarded the best player of the Primavera Final 8, the hat trick against Milan sealed it. I rightly criticized him for his lack of clinical finishing earlier this season and he seems to have developed it a long way since then. Great striker in the mould of Milito, big things will be expected of him.

    Future
    He's going back to Genoa on loan, most likely a first team fringe there, hopefully he gets enough time to develop.


    Giovanni Terrani
    Expectations - 2/5
    Final score - 3/5

    Another player who is being moulded into the Primavera next season, he had a decent season this year. Next year will be a starter for the youth side, and it will be very interesting.

    Future
    Primavera first choice next season.


    Jakob Vojtus
    Expectations - 3/5
    Final score - 1/5

    A very disappointing season for Jakob, who has barely played despite being available for most of the season.

    Future
    An exit from Inter is almost certain

    ---------- Post added at 11:23 ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 ----------

    Best Player:
    Daniel Bessa

    Best breakout player:
    Ibrahim MBaye
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    Good Job. I'm happy i'm not the only who follows youngsters over here...

    As for the rates you give i could agree with almost all of them except some : For example :

    I think that our defense is disapointing. Probably this is one of the few seasons we haven't managed to grow up a good defender (cb) both Kysela and Spendhoffer give no hope for me in the future.
    Also i don't know why but i'm not impressed at all with Livaja. In the matches i've seen of him , i haven't noticed anything special. And we're speaking about a player who should make the difference in youth level since he already has so much experience in croatia and that year with cesena.

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    I think if you view Livaja as an inside forward rather than a striker (which is how he has been advertised) he's not bad actually. Alot of work to do, but he makes good runs and he's quite strong/technical.


    Well, individually our defense might be a bit unspectacular, but if you consider the shut out against Ajax, Marseille, Sporting (for example), I bet it suddenly doesnt look so bad. Its a well drilled Mourinho-esque defense, and I think to achieve that with a group who havent played together all that long is quite impressive.

    MBaye is a great left back, Pecorini is quite a good right back, Kysela and Spendlhofer pair reasonably well together, and as we all know, the pairing is more important than the two individuals. It'll be interesting to see where it goes, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browha View Post
    I think if you view Livaja as an inside forward rather than a striker (which is how he has been advertised) he's not bad actually. Alot of work to do, but he makes good runs and he's quite strong/technical.


    Well, individually our defense might be a bit unspectacular, but if you consider the shut out against Ajax, Marseille, Sporting (for example), I bet it suddenly doesnt look so bad. Its a well drilled Mourinho-esque defense, and I think to achieve that with a group who havent played together all that long is quite impressive.

    MBaye is a great left back, Pecorini is quite a good right back, Kysela and Spendlhofer pair reasonably well together, and as we all know, the pairing is more important than the two individuals. It'll be interesting to see where it goes, though.
    Yeah , as you say they made a good couple together and the team as a whole defended well when it was needed. But i think it was more Strama's credit rather than individual quality of the 2 cb. I don't have any high hopes regarding those 2.If you look at the past years we have always had a cb who was a leader of the defense , even Benedetti for example was an important figure in our defense ranks smth that i didn't notice this year with Kysela or Spendhoffer. Anyway i hope for the best .

    On the other hand we produced some great prospects in midfield and attack so i'm more than happy.

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    Really great job.

    Some things: Giannetti is on loan and I assume we won't buy him, Kysela's contract will expire this June from what I heard and Bianchetti did'nt play because he is injured since like January (that made Spendlhofer cb iirc) and also I doubt Forte will stay as he's 93' like most of the squad.


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    I could see Kysela being released then.

    Spendlhofer has made the CB place his own, I would not expect Bianchetti to take it back off of him

    Its not unusual for us to have an overage player. When I say overage, I mean someone who is U-20 and still within Primavera rules, but Inter mainly play U19. Longo is the example for us this year, or Kysela.

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    Is this your own article, Henry? Much thanks. How often do you watch the team? How? Is it shown in your local broadcast?

    Dat font btw...

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    hey han

    Yeah, I decided last night before I went to bed to write it.

    I watch the youth team as much as possible. That translates roughly to all the NextGen matches, as much of the Viareggio as possible, and some of the latter Primavera matches. Undoubtedly there are people who watch more, but I try my best to spare up as much time as possible to watch it. Honestly, its more of a passion for me. Anyone can follow a big name team who haev lots of news sites writing about them. The primavera its much harder to form your own opinion of the players. Anyone can say Milito is a great striker. How many people can say they expected Longo to be a great striker at the start of the season?

    Sadly, as with everything, I'm a streamer I rely on this forum for a lot of the games, actually. Luckily the NextGen games were all on Youtube, so I watched them all there. I also read all the match reports, everything anyone says on, say, www.fcinternews.it about the youth team, etc. It can be kinda hard to get some decent analysis on these players, you certainly dont want to take it just on hype, so hopefully I can provide some reasonably unbiased opinions on some of these players and how they will shape up in the future for Inter, as well as a crash course education on any of them if people are interested in them

    Sorry about the size, I'm trying still to tweak it. The 'full' make a post page doesnt really give enough options so I just had to guess it

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    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by browha View Post
    bump

    Seriously?

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    yeah, seriously, i spent an hour writing that thing and would like more feedback / opinions (especially comments on how I've rated the players, whether there are any disagreements or not..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by browha View Post
    yeah, seriously, i spent an hour writing that thing and would like more feedback / opinions (especially comments on how I've rated the players, whether there are any disagreements or not..)
    I actually liked the thread, but bumping a thread that is barely a day old in a section that doesn't even get that much action is quite douchey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitomins View Post
    I actually liked the thread, but bumping a thread that is barely a day old in a section that doesn't even get that much action is quite douchey.
    I see your point, its probably valid, but I wanted to bump it because most of the threads (if not the only real thread) that people read in here is 'Primavera Team', and that's the one that almost always appears on the front page. I'm trying to highlight, as well as get some feedback, that there are other threads in this subsection of the forum too, which go beyond a 40 page + stream of consciousness from the last 6-7-8+ years of primavera football.

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    Dude, you basically mindfucked us all and there's really nothing we can say

    Not that I don't appreciate your work, it's probably one of the best posts of the year, but the only Primavera match I watched was the NextGen final. Can't discuss nothing.

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    fair enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by browha View Post
    yeah, seriously, i spent an hour writing that thing and would like more feedback / opinions (especially comments on how I've rated the players, whether there are any disagreements or not..)
    Well, you want some discussion. I saw all the games from the Next Gen Series except the first 2, plus around 6 games of the Primavera.

    I agree with most of your analysis. I think our most promising youngsters from this year primavera are Bessa, M'Baye, Crisetig, Longo, Duncan and Di Gennaro.

    Longo really surprised me because he really grew a lot toward the end of the season, I mean he was always fast with good technique, great dribbling but his finishing was crap, and he improved that a lot.

    Di Gennaro was also a nice surprise didn't expect much from him, but specially his personality is impressive for someone so young, it's not that rare to find very talented young goalkeepers but the ones with the right mental attitude are very rare, and I think that is the most important aspect for a keeper.

    The only thing we disagree notably is about Crisetig, I think he was one of our best players and did pretty much what I expected of him, hope he goes on loan and continue his growth in Seria A or Serie B.

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    So is the general consensus Duncan is the most ready for the first team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdude View Post
    So is the general consensus Duncan is the most ready for the first team?
    From what I've seen, Duncan and Longo are the only ones who seem ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqnalkel View Post
    Well, you want some discussion. I saw all the games from the Next Gen Series except the first 2, plus around 6 games of the Primavera.

    I agree with most of your analysis. I think our most promising youngsters from this year primavera are Bessa, M'Baye, Crisetig, Longo, Duncan and Di Gennaro.

    Longo really surprised me because he really grew a lot toward the end of the season, I mean he was always fast with good technique, great dribbling but his finishing was crap, and he improved that a lot.

    Di Gennaro was also a nice surprise didn't expect much from him, but specially his personality is impressive for someone so young, it's not that rare to find very talented young goalkeepers but the ones with the right mental attitude are very rare, and I think that is the most important aspect for a keeper.

    The only thing we disagree notably is about Crisetig, I think he was one of our best players and did pretty much what I expected of him, hope he goes on loan and continue his growth in Seria A or Serie B.


    thx for the feedback

    you're not the first person to say I judge midfielders too harshly. I guess I expected him to be a lot better on the ball under pressure and so on. His passing was good but I dont remember any great passes in any of the games I saw, nor do I remember him really dominating the midfield ever. That is of course partly because of the games we played esp against Sporting or Ajax, but nonetheless.

    I agree on Di Gennaro.



    So far as most ready players?

    Hard to say. I think Longo has grown a phenomenal amount this season, from the start to the end, and I would say he is 'most' ready. Bessa looks good but I dont know if he's mentally there yet or not. He's got a good attitude, but I think some Serie B time will do him well, the creative midfield position is always a tough one.

    Duncan is quite probably ready too, but I think he could work on his 'bossing a game' side a bit, so some Serie B time where he can be the midfield leader would do him well.

    MBaye is phenomenal, but I'm very displeased with his temper. He needs to calm that down before we get him into the first team, or he'll be sent off epic quickly.

    Di Gennaro looks quite healthy but he needs to work on his handling skills, some match time in a Serie B team will do him well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdude View Post
    So is the general consensus Duncan is the most ready for the first team?
    Don't know if the most ready but probably the one that would help the 1st Team the most, we could use a DM and Duncan seems like he could be a pretty good one, Longo when played as a winger has performed great, and we need a winger in the 1st Team. Bessa on the other hand is probably the best of them but we've too many AMs and he got injured.

    But as much as I want us to integrate our youngsters in the 1st Team, if they're gonna get called just to eat bench, then I hope we loan them to other Seria A or Serie B teams. Only the ones that Strama is prepared to give a good amount of playing time should be called to the 1st Team.

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