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  • 10 - Legend. One of the absolute best players in the history of the game (think Meazza, Matthäus)

    12 6.86%
  • 9 - Icon. One of the best players in club history, and one of the best players in the world

    37 21.14%
  • 8 - Great. A player of high quality that adds a lot to the team, one of the best in the league

    110 62.86%
  • 7 - Good. A valuble asset to the team, one of the 10-15 best in his position in the league

    9 5.14%
  • 6 - Above average. Useful player, but will never be a key player for a team

    3 1.71%
  • 5 - Average. Completely average player. Does his job, but doesn't stand out

    1 0.57%
  • 4 - Below average. Not a disaster, but would be better if we didn't sign him in the first place

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  • 3 - Anonymous. Will never be remembered due to the fact nobody expected anything from him

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  • 2 - Useless. Adds nothing of value, detrimental to the team when on the pitch

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  • 1 - Infamous. Awful signing, will go down in history as one of the shittiest Inter players ever

    2 1.14%
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Thread: Samir Handanovic

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    Quote Originally Posted by dax21 View Post
    Inter captain Samir Handanovic admires Antonio Conte’s tough work ethic and warns “players can’t just think they are allowed to do anything. They have duties towards the club.”

    The Nerazzurri have clamped down on discipline and hard training sessions under new Coach Conte, with Mauro Icardi and Radja Nainggolan told they are not part of his plans.

    “We are happy that Lele Oriali has returned as team manager, because he is the link between the club and squad, he sees everything,” said Handanovic in a Press conference.

    “He is here because we want to get back to having the values that were lost over the years. Players have duties towards the club too, they can’t just think they are allowed to do anything because they are talented. With Oriali’s return and Conte in charge, we can improve a great deal.”

    The goalkeeper was asked how he hopes the Icardi and Nainggolan situation will resolve itself, but his response left no room for interpretation.

    “The club has been clear in its position, I do not need to add anything more.”

    Conte has largely kept his training sessions behind closed doors in Lugano, but Handanovic confirms the Coach does not go easy on his men.

    “We work extremely hard, but then we knew what to expect from Conte. I see my teammates all highly-motivated and ready for the challenge. I think our journey started two years ago with Luciano Spalletti and now we have strong foundations to build on.

    “As the Coach said, we mustn’t set limits for ourselves and it’s important to dream big. We require the spirit of sacrifice first and foremost to become a team.


    “I feel great pride in wearing the captain’s armband. My attitude has not changed, though. A captain is someone who takes responsibility and speaks when he has to, trying always to be fair. It takes many captains in a team, as one is not enough.

    “On paper, this is a very strong side, but then you start playing. We must make the defence our greatest strength. We’re training for three at the back, even if Diego Godin hasn’t started work with us yet.”


    Should've made him captain in 2015, whether he wanted it or not.
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    ^ and you didn’t with JC...?

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    I couldn't apply Falcao law with JC

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    Handanovic is better than Julio Cesar. He's never played in a team that was good which is punishing his legacy a lot. Both were great of course, but this Handanovic guy is elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    Handanovic is better than Julio Cesar. He's never played in a team that was good which is punishing his legacy a lot. Both were great of course, but this Handanovic guy is elite.
    WHAT???

    There’s no way Handa is better than JC. JC used to pull off wonder saves that would leave you speechless because it wasn’t like he was a fucking magician between the sticks. Handa is great and his form consist as hell but there has been countless goals against us over the seasons where I was like JC would have saved that.

    Handa is a great keeper/ world class but JC was elite world class!

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    Julio Cesar was sometimes a walking disaster. People tend to forget that. We all loved him, but when you win you don't care to spot the weaknesses and you let them be bygones.

    He had issues with positioning, his first time handling was borderline poor, his ability in the air wasn't the best and you couldn't say he oozes confidence after any defensive slip up. His reflexes were amongst the best I've seen and surely surpass those of Handanovic, which is probably why a highlight reel of Julio Cesar may be more spectacular than Handanovic. There were games of course where Julio Cesar would feel invincible, but those were the exceptions. Thankfully they also were big important games which is what made him a great goalkeeper.
    Handanovic is blessed with some solid reflex skills, but it's not what sets him apart. He has excellent positioning and overall he is top notch at the fundamentals of this position. Goalkeepers that rely on their reflexes and do not improve the other aspects of their game end up being exposed or in their best case scenario, hidden by a great defence. Buffon is another example like this. Positioning was poor, especially during set pieces, but he's worked on it in his 30s, which gave him longevity. His reflexes were probably in the top 5 ever but he was very irrational in his younger days so he'd concede some very silly goals.

    I have many vivid memories of how Julio Cesar's limitations cost us goals and in many cases points. With Handanovic I can safely say that he's won us more points than the general amount of errors he made.
    Even in his peak which was (short and) spectacular, he conceded some chances and goals that made me wonder about his quality. He never was a liability of course which is a major plus for a goalkeeper (think Karius, Olsen etc) and he's also won us games as has every goalkeeper we kept for more than 1 season in a starting role since the 60s.

    Just consider that Julio Cesar was replaced by Handanovic when he was just 32 years old.
    And people probably can see Handanovic (aged 35) playing for Inter for at least another 2 seasons. That speaks volumes on this difference. Now if you compare peak Julio Cesar with peak Handanovic it's probably a subjective discussion of preference, but Handanovic being more consistent overall and more years as an elite level goalkeeper takes it.

    I don't disagree that some goals where Handanovic seems to have no chances of stopping them Julio Cesar may have pulled a miracle, but there are too many goals conceded by Julio Cesar where with Handanovic you wouldn't even worry that it was any dangerous. Those tend to be much more.
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    Julio Cesar was only replaced because we HAD to get rid of people on high wages and he wouldn’t take a pay cut, that’s how I remember it!!

    Again maybe it’s just me but I always thought that JCs positioning and reflexes made him the best of the best. He was a more acrobatic keeper so handling wasn’t a big thing for him as he specialised in parrying the balls out of play, and again I trusted him when the defenders fucked up to save us.

    From your reply your implying somewhat that I’ve got rose tinted glasses but I think your view on JC is somewhat distorted.

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    Julio Cesar was still playing in CL when he was 37. He was forced out not because he deteriorated but it was his time to follow Lucio, Maicon and others. Of all clubs, he was forced to join QPR. Those 2 years he spent in London was problematic for him because of lifestyle, he couldn't adapt to England.
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    He was actually living quite close to me at the time he was at QPR and I run into him at various places several times. At least it felt like we were neighbors otherwise he just loved my general neighborhood Seemed like a good guy. I'm not the type of person that likes to annoy players when they are enjoying some family or free time so I barely bothered him with anything other than a grazie per tutti or a forza Inter once or twice.

    I did used to hang out a bit with Karagounis though in his first season in England. Met him through a friend (who now works at QPR actually) and as he didn't have his family there at the time he wanted to get settled. His English was quite poor which I found funny as I remember interviews of him in solid Italian after 3-4 months at Inter Such a shame I didn't have the opportunity to force him to arrange a group outing with me hanging about I did meet Choutos briefly though He's been very close to Karagounis since forever.

    Anyhow, regardingr Julio Cesar's last days at Inter, we offered him a pay cut because we'd demote him to a 2nd choice. Handanovic was much better at the time. If he weren't, we wouldn't buy him and would have kept JC as the starter. He left Europe for a while and returned for Benfica where life was easy both on and off the field.

    I doubt people would have been happy with him if he was around until he was 37.
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    Handa is certainly more lasting in top class category than JC. 7 years of top performances for Batmanovic at Inter and before at Udinese to Inter considering him as a worthy replacement for JC. Handa one of the main reasons that Inter wasn't even shittier under various loser coaches.
    Let's not compare how much different quality defenders both GK's had.
    Totally different GKing styles from the guys. Different body build... Different personalities
    It's kind of unfair to compare them
    Both top class goalkeepers no doubt tho.


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    This feels weird, but I think I actually agree with brehme here. Julio Cesar pulled off tons of miraculous saves, but I also remember his constantly spilling saves in dangerous areas giving up tons of rebounds. It always seemed like he could not catch the softest of shots.

    That is the biggest difference I see between the two. Handa usually pushes his saves way out of danger.

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    Reflexes: JC >>> Handa
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitomins View Post
    This feels weird, but I think I actually agree with brehme here. Julio Cesar pulled off tons of miraculous saves, but I also remember his constantly spilling saves in dangerous areas giving up tons of rebounds. It always seemed like he could not catch the softest of shots.

    That is the biggest difference I see between the two. Handa usually pushes his saves way out of danger.

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    I think you're remembering the end of his Inter career here. His 07/08 and 08/09 season put him in contention for best GK in the world but by our treble season, JC had already begun his decline and started making howlers as you've mentioned above. It's around 2010 that errors started seeping into his game e.g. his mistake on Kalou's goal in our CL match v Chelsea.

    As for this debate in general, yes it's obvious Handanovic has more longevity than Julio Cesar. Unfortunately JC, like Maicon, suffered from the dreaded "Brazilian 30 years old" decline. I agree that Julio Cesar was more of an athlete than Handanovic and had the better reflexes. I think both of them shared a weakness, in free kicks and long range shots.
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    Forza Julio. But also Forza Handa, but a little less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    I think you're remembering the end of his Inter career here. His 07/08 and 08/09 season put him in contention for best GK in the world but by our treble season, JC had already begun his decline and started making howlers as you've mentioned above. It's around 2010 that errors started seeping into his game e.g. his mistake on Kalou's goal in our CL match v Chelsea.
    Not really, he's always had those weaknesses. Which is why the "Brazilian 30 year old decline" hit him as well. He relied too much on his reflexes. Those never really die out, but the athleticism that makes them elite is decaying after a certain age and he just couldn't keep up.

    You know that I'm capable of showing you multiple bad reactions from him from those two seasons, please don't make me

    Also, there's not 'tension' in this comparison. Both are legends in their way one. But I think that Handanovic's legendary status is more due to his individual quality whilst for Julione it's due to the success of the team he was part of. I'm prety sure there are loads of Interisti who rate Toldo higher than JC or both of them and he's barely been our starting GK for 4 seasons (thanks to Mancini), but he also lost his starting spot to JC when he was 34-35, not at a younger age. The previous GK that simply aged out was Walter Zenga who even had 2 decent seasons in him and he also was 34. Both of these were better GKs than Julio Cesar overall. Pagliuca was superior as well. We mostly love Julio Cesar because he won everything with us and because he's a great character more than his quality as a GK I guess.

    Handanovic is actually the oldest GK we've had in years and I cannot see a reason to replace him yet. He feels so cerebral that he can play at this level until he's 38 for sure if all goes well.
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