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    Formation and tactics discussion

    Often we talk about formation, what we want to play and what Inter plays.. Also the other teams..

    IMO, formation and tactics are totally different things. On paper, it can be written as 4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3... But on the pitch, to be more or less the same. IMO, it's the players ROLES given what define the tactics, not the formation we play on paper...
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    Here's where NB will spit all his shit-talk about formations. :disgustedyao:
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    Im gonna delete..

    Seriously tho, im really curious to see what you guys think, what formation, tactics, what players would suit for it... We've talked a lot about it, but all in different threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post

    IMO, formation and tactics are totally different things. On paper, it can be written as 4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3... But on the pitch, to be more or less the same. IMO, it's the players ROLES given what define the tactics, not the formation we play on paper...
    spot on. so I dont think it even warrants a discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post
    Often we talk about formation, what we want to play and what Inter plays.. Also the other teams..

    IMO, formation and tactics are totally different things. On paper, it can be written as 4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3... But on the pitch, to be more or less the same. IMO, it's the players ROLES given what define the tactics, not the formation we play on paper...
    Formation is a representation as to the average position the player would be in, given his role in a team.

    It's more or less a generalized simplification of the shape of the team.

    If there's a discussion, then it has to be discussed in more detail than just labelling players in a position that kind of useless shit, like in the other threads.

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    Formations & tactics ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    If there's a discussion, then it has to be discussed in more detail than just labelling players in a position that kind of useless shit, like in the other threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajo View Post
    Often we talk about formation, what we want to play and what Inter plays.. Also the other teams..

    IMO, formation and tactics are totally different things. On paper, it can be written as 4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3... But on the pitch, to be more or less the same. IMO, it's the players ROLES given what define the tactics, not the formation we play on paper...
    Formations and tactics are different things but are much related to each other. Many times you can't draw a thick line between the two.

    A formation is a broad term which usually defines how a team plays and the role of each player. Every team has a general default formation, or some have two but it defines the way a team plays over a period of time. It also underlines how the team generally attacks and defends. Tactics are more dynamic and would vary based on each match and opposition.

    For Inter the formation is 352 right now. This defines a certain way of playing which involves wingbacks to push ahead, have 2 midfielders in defensive positions, have a more attack minded midfielder who drives the team forward but has a lot of defensive work too.
    Now when we play Catania for example, there is a thread on the left flank in Gomez. Accordingly the coach used Obi who is left footed instead of Jonathan or Nagatomo to counter the threat. The formation remained the same, but the role of one player was accordingly changed to sit back more rather than venture forward.
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    Related, sure, but as you said, the players roles define the tactics.

    For example, 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 with Guaro in the hole would be pretty much equal, knowing his style and position, as well as the probably roles given to the wings (palacio, Cassano). Cassano doesn't have the workrate to be defensive winger/forward, but Palacio does. So no matter if we play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, it will be pretty much the same. Guaro will be the advanced CM, mainly attacking but helping the defense in both, Paulinho if he comes as box to box, and Cambi to do the defending.

    Handa
    Naga-Rano-Juan-Pereira
    Paulinho-Guarin-Cambi
    Palacio-Milito-Cassano

    is equal to

    Handa
    Naga-Rano-Juan-Pereira
    Paulinho-Cambi
    Palacio-Guarin-Cassano
    Milito.

    with slight differences.. Same can be said for 4-3-2-1, with Palacio and Cassano behind Milito.
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    That's right to an extent. We need to look at formations after a match rather than before it. Get the formation based on average position of the players through the 90 minutes.
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