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    Why Neymar Will Cost Barcelona Another Transfer Blooper ?

    http://irequis.wordpress.com/2012/09...nsfer-blooper/

    Funny that I haven't posted it here. It was created several months ago so some points have change, but in overall the article is very relevant.



    It seems almost certain that Barcelona will be the next destination of the Brazillian gem, Neymar, in 2014. Although the truth is still vague, but it is believed that both Santos and Barcelona already have verbal agreement.

    Right now, Neymar is the hottest talent in the world and every European giant is desperately trying to hunt his signature. He tears the defence singlehandedly for fun in Brazillian league and even delivers Copa Liberatadores back to Vila Belmiro Stadium after 48 years of waiting. The time when he brings the ball with his foot is the time when every defence trembles in fear as he easily skips any challenge with his lightning speed, dazzling technique, and close dribble. Although he failed in national team both in Copa America and Olympic, there is no denying that Neymar has great potential behind him and under the right hand, he could become another worldclass player or even a legend.

    Barcelonistas already imagine how lethal will be their frontline with Neymar and Messi running havoc among the defenders. But, it wonít go that easily as the theory goes. As the title mentions, why Barcelona isnít the right club for Neymar and why the Blaugrana shouldnít sign him ? There are some logical reasons and here we are :

    1. Tactical reason

    Where should Barca place him when Neymar already arrives ? His favourite position is as the left forward and then drifting inside. But, the problem is, it is what Iniesta used to do and he still does it. If somehow Barca uses 2 players in such same role, it will be a waste and the attack will be monotone and easily anticipated. The best and most recent example is when Inter was defeated 1-3 by AS Roma. Inter used 4 players to overload their left flank, but Romaís defence coped with it comfortably. Another solution is moving Neymar or Iniesta to another role, but will it work as good as the current tactic does ?

    Bad news for any Barcelona fans, the biggest problem is yet to be written. The biggest problem with Neymar is, he is a goalgetter and Barca already have Messi. In such modern football which emphazies on possession, 2 goalgetters means disaster for a team especially for Barcelona. It means less service for the forward and less support in midfield. Also, Messi has been Barcelonaís goalgetter and Ėunless any drastic change- he will always be. Look at Ibrahimovic and David Villa case. Both of them are prolific strikers in their entire career, but too bad their position collides with Messi. The former was dumped and the latter must adapt himselft by shifting onto another role to support Messi.

    The most reasonable solution is by shifting Messi onto support-striker position just like he is deployed in national team. But, everybody knows that Messi is more lethal when he is positioned in central areas, enjoying freerole, and interchanging the position with his teammates. To put him as the secondstriker alone is terrible as it is Barca himself who put limitation on Messi. But, it will be the same case if Barca put Neymar as support-striker. Barca will not be able to maximize both their talent by limiting one of them onto support-striker role.

    2. High ego

    Being hailed and exalted by entire nation in such tender age, Neymar has very high ego and he will throw any tantrum boldly whenever something doesnít go coherently with his way. Once he never passed anybody when his request to take penalty kick was rejected. As if it was not bad enough, he yelled at his captain and his coach too. And thatís only one from many examples. And the last time Barca have the player with such an ego is Ibrahimovic which outcome we already knew, dismissed. Right now, Barcaís dressing room is in harmony and they must already learn from history to keep the harmony that way.

    And his high ego could lead to another way including how the tactic will be deployed. Will he accept the role as Messiís support like Villa does ? I donít think so. His playstyle tells everything. He always wants the ball. He dribbles a lot. He could berate his teammates if they donít pass the ball to him. He always want to be main goalgetter and main star. Does it bear resemblence to Ibra ? Yes, it does.

    Ibrahimovic story tells us that if you want to play for Barcelona, you must play for the team, not vice versa. Remember, Messi doesnít become world best player because of his skill alone, but it is mainly because how he synchronizes himself perfectly with the team and the team responds positively by maximizing his true magic. The big question mark lingers, can Neymar change his on and off the field in order to survive in Barcelona ?

    3. Diving

    To quote Pat Nevin, the former Chelsea winger,ĒNeymar lives in an alternative universe where the slightest brush leads to mortal pain that looks like it is going to kill him and then 20 seconds later he is magically betterĒ. Barca donít have to add another stain to their already notorious reputation as divers club. The composition of Busquet, Dani Alves, Pedro, and Neymar will even make Broadway jealous.

    4. La Masia


    Why would Barca sign such expensive player if they can produce by themselves ? Admitted, the likes of Tello, Cuenca, and Pedro are pale in comparison to Neymar if we weigh in their talents. But, they already prove they could do something better than him. They are the type of players that Barca need and they slot their position correctly and seamlessly. Pedro roams around frontline, ready to take up any pass from Xavi-Messi-Iniesta or distract the defenders to give the way for the. Tello and Cuenca provides the width that Barca desperately need. The most important is, they have been playing together since they were young, they understand each other, they understand how Barcelonaís way are. If Neymar comes in, he would still have a lot to learn and there isnít any guarantee that he will gel in with the team.

    5. Unproven in big stages and overrated

    Neymar shone when he led Santos won Copa Libertadores so it is normal for everybody to expect him shining as well in Copa America. But it didnít happen, he failed miserably instead. He dribbled when he should pass only to see himself being dispossessed. And donít forget his diving habit which irritated every spectator even the Brazillian. Fast forward to Club World Cup final when he was against Barcelona. Admitted, Barcelona is on the different league with Santos. But, if he really wanted to compete in European, at least he had to give some notable nuisance among Barca defence. Too bad it never happened as Barca comfortably handled him. In Olympic games, he almost justified his reputation by bringing Brazil to the final only to lose in final by Mexico. He did show some glimpses of skill to dazzle us. And the loss canít be singlehandedly blamed to him alone as football is a teamgame. But, if he really played living up to his reputation, he could and should show us more than what he did.

    Letís compare him with Messi and Ronaldo story. When MU met Sporting Lisbon in friendly match, Cristiano Ronaldo quickly caught the formerís eyes and even the players requested Sir Alex to sign him. When Messi met Juventus in Joan Gamper cup, he quickly attracted Capello and Juventus board. Even the latter immediately made a verbal offer, only to be ultimately rejected of course. I am not belittling the value of Campeonato Paulista and Copa Libertadores. If Neymar wants to emulate them, at least he should impress in big stage such as Copa America, CWC, and Olympic. Unfortunately, he didnít.

    If he really moves to Barcelona, there isnít single guarantee that he will develop into better player. This is not a world of Football Manager game where every player will surely get better and better. This is the real world where a little mistake could turn a light into shadow in the blink of an eye.

    6. Financial

    Another big reason why Barca shouldnít sign him. How much will the transfer cost ? If the likes of Lucas Moura, who is a mere substitute in Brazil Olympic team, has 35 million euro pricetag, then we can already estimate Neymar will cost around 45-50 million euro. It is just ridiculous. Barca isnít Manchester City or PSG which has infinite cash. Instead, they have a lot of debt burden to be paid. So, Barca must consider their transfers wisely and purchasing Neymar sure isnít wise move.

    If you look on all the reasons above, really, there isnít any logical argument to bring in Neymar with such hefty transfer fee. It is as if Barca never learn from their mistake. They have done a lot of transfer blunder (Chygrinsky, Ibra, Hleb, Keirrison etc) and they still intend to put their bet their 50 million euro on unproven boy.

    Also, the offence isnít the main issue of current team. The department that needs immediate improvement are defence and midfielder. Barcelona couldnít rely on Puyol and Xavi forever. They arenít Zanetti who still could play every 3 days in 1 season long at the age of 38. When they are injured, Barca simply couldnít find equal replacement. Thiago Alcantara is yet to reach the level of Xavi and Fabregas seems to go further and further from playmaker image. Puyolís case is the worse. Pique isnít reliable central defender, let alone Busquet and Mascherano. So, why donít Barca spend their money on right place ?

    Epilogue

    After all such analysis, actually there is still a chance for Neymar to prove he is the right man for Barca. There is still an opportunity for him to develop into better player and lifting Barca into even greater height. But that only happens if Neymar could blend within the team, in which I find very difficult. If Barca havenít thought and prepared how to deal with Neymar, they better cancel the transfer plan before it spells another disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irequis View Post

    Right now, Neymar is the hottest talent in the world...
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    Great article Im curious to see how he`s gona function there.

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    Barca just dumped on that analysis. Hope Vilanova doesn't do the same next season.
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    Why would we need yet another thread about the scumbag team & the gloryhunters they buy from time to time? Fuck Barca & everything that is related to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irequis View Post
    To quote Pat Nevin, the former Chelsea winger,”Neymar lives in an alternative universe where the slightest brush leads to mortal pain that looks like it is going to kill him and then 20 seconds later he is magically better”.
    haha, my guess is he said that after Scotland-Brazil in london when Neymar showed how much of an absolute tosser he was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart View Post
    Why would we need yet another thread about the scumbag team & the gloryhunters they buy from time to time? Fuck Barca & everything that is related to them.

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    Figo is related with Barca.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
    Figo is related with Barca.


    Lol.. Ouch. We'll that ended that.


    Interesting article nonetheless.
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    This is an article I find really interesting, and it does a good job explaining why Neymar wouldn't fit into the Barca system (although it doesn't actually mention him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish_one View Post
    haha, my guess is he said that after Scotland-Brazil in london when Neymar showed how much of an absolute tosser he was
    Aye proper diving cunt he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wambam View Post
    This is an article I find really interesting, and it does a good job explaining why Neymar wouldn't fit into the Barca system (although it doesn't actually mention him).

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    I hope neymar flops soooooo bad.

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    As I've said in the Euro transfers thread, I worry a lot about this deal & whether Messi/Neymar would be a viable partnership. Both are stars & have a need to be the focal point of their team. It's clear Neymar has an ego & despite the press painting a picture of Messi being a humble saint, he has his own ego too. Really has the potential to be Ibra 2.0 ... I hope I'm wrong though.

    It's not all the player's fault either though when they flop, we need to stop the dependency on Messi. It's awesome to see him breaking all these records but in the end makes us look like "Messi + 10 other guys" than "FC Barcelona". The past partnerships of Messi-Eto'o-Henry & Messi-Villa-Pedro were lethal, we looked as a team then. But now it's different. I'm no longer completely convinced that Sanchez, Pedro etc are poor players that need to leave. For example they both scored in the last match - while Messi wasn't on the pitch. Sometimes it almost seems like they deliberately hold back & just look to pass to Messi, not knowing quite what to do in any other situation... whether it's because they are instructed to or not, who knows. But if those guys leave they will probably just be replaced by guys who will end up having to do the same thing, unless something changes. It's just a matter whether someone like Neymar would agree to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
    Figo is related with Barca.
    Dylius, I'm disappoint tbh, Liam Neeson too. I wouldn't have expected this from a fella AUW. I'll take my revenge some day in col' blood. & everyvody who thanked dat post better go hide too, god damn.

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    I definitely think the first reason is where it gets interesting. So much star power I wonder if he can adapt to playing there.

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    In Lionheart's defense when they threw a pig's head at Figo I think that broke his bond with Barca.
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    Now that it's leaked that Barca actually payed more for Neymar than we thought, all those Barca purists that were laughing at Real and Bale ... are silent as fuck

    To be fair, I guess I'll be the first one to say this on FIF, maybe not, but Neymar is about as important to Barca as Bale is to Real. Which isn't a small amount. Ofc he is overrated, almost every big superstar is, but he played some brilliant games for Barcelona and is also helping A LOT in defence for Barca. Hate him or not, for those that never saw him play except for a few Brasil games, like myself, he showed in Barca that he is not a fluke, but a real deal.

    I have to mention that Pedro, Sanchez, Neymar and Messi all play good under Tato. Some attack they have there.
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    how is he overrated?

    did barca pay a stupid price for him? is he having a terrible season? isnt he scoring? isnt he assisting? its his first season and he is already making a huge impact...

    you guys...

    how in hell is neymar overrated?

    3 goals in the fucking champions league
    6 goals in la liga
    8 asits in la liga

    he was bought for 57 million euros, in a market era where a welsh guy is worth 100 million a totally normal player with no imagination whatsoever just pure physical brute force ... chelsea paid more for torres, monaco paid more for falcao, barca paid more for zlatan, and you guys think neymar is overrated?

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    the thread was made in may tho, so I guess Neymar did show all the doubters

    well, at least he has my respect.
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