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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    Can't bother to translate it, google translate probably is decent enough. Not saying these guys know the absolute truth of this saga, but they are at least making a better attempt from the 'anti-Icardi' brigade's side which explains their overall stance. What's certain is that these guys do have some connections in the club (for anyone who follows the page, it's obvious).
    I am assuming that by "anti-Icardi brigade", you mean people like me. I guess that is fair, for I'm now firmly anti-Icardi. Surely even you can see why I'm anti-Icardi? I had no prior bias against Icardi, intact I even considered him legend material for a while. From a sporting POV, I have always backed Icardi against the doubters here. So if anything, before February I could have only been biased in favour of Icardi. Also as you can make out from my history here, I am someone who is quite measured in my opinion. I don't have dramatic opinion changes or mood swings.

    So for me to join the "anti-Icardi brigade" as you call it, that took something. For me, someone refusing to play for his club for 40 days is beyond excusable. The fact that Icardi thought he could get away with it by faking an injury, IMO we shouldn't touch such players with a bargepole. I used to hate it when Moratti used to tolerate such indiscipline. One of the big positives IMO of having people like Marotta and Conte in charge is that we don't take that shit anymore. We don't need such primadonnas at Inter ever again.

    Fuck Icardi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenine View Post
    I am assuming that by "anti-Icardi brigade", you mean people like me. I guess that is fair, for I'm now firmly anti-Icardi. Surely even you can see why I'm anti-Icardi? I had no prior bias against Icardi, intact I even considered him legend material for a while. From a sporting POV, I have always backed Icardi against the doubters here. So if anything, before February I could have only been biased in favour of Icardi. Also as you can make out from my history here, I am someone who is quite measured in my opinion. I don't have dramatic opinion changes or mood swings.

    So for me to join the "anti-Icardi brigade" as you call it, that took something. For me, someone refusing to play for his club for 40 days is beyond excusable. The fact that Icardi thought he could get away with it by faking an injury, IMO we shouldn't touch such players with a bargepole. I used to hate it when Moratti used to tolerate such indiscipline. One of the big positives IMO of having people like Marotta and Conte in charge is that we don't take that shit anymore. We don't need such primadonnas at Inter ever again.

    Fuck Icardi.
    We arent the real world tv show. Its not like Icardi woke up one morning and decided he wasnt gonna play he had the captains armband stripped and reacted to it (poorly albeit). From a sporting view I want the most talented team. As long as they aren't murdering people on your free time I can give a shit less about their personal life.
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    There is going to be at least 1 game in the year where Nainggolan, Brozovic and Vidal click perfectly and absolutely mouth fuck some poor team's midfield.

    I can't wait.

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    Parliamo di Icardi anche se ormai di cose ne sono state dette a bizzeffe. Mauro ha capito che proseguire all’Inter è impossibile. Ha tentato di fare orecchie da mercante e ignorare i proclami di Marotta e Conte, sicuro di restare per testardaggine o di non rimetterci in ogni caso, guadagnandosi un posto nella squadra reputata ideale da Wanda. Eh sì avete capito bene: perché è la sua procuratrice/moglie in fondo in fondo a decidere. Non solo comanda lei a livello contrattuale, ma gestisce ogni aspetto finanziario, mentre Mauro è libero di pensare solo a giocare e di fare il papà.

    La delega quindi non è solo come procuratrice ma proprio come curatrice dei suoi beni. Se sta bene a Wanda sta bene anche a Mauro: “tu fai i gol che a fare i soldi ci penso io”. Non fraintendeteci, Icardi non è un cagnolino ammaestrato: è del tutto logico che abbia comunque potere decisionale, semplicemente non si preoccupa affatto degli aspetti finanziari e non dubita che sua moglie possa minimamente danneggiarlo sportivamente parlando.

    Nei fatti però è così: Icardi voleva e vuole restare in nerazzurro. La questione rinnovo però ha fatto precipitare tutto. L’astuta Wanda, forte di un accordo verbale con Paratici, voleva mettere all’angolo l’Inter, forse per dimostrare come 6,5 milioni all’anno proposti non bastassero. Forse perché davvero pensava di far giocare Mauro un altro anno e mezzo in nerazzurro per farlo poi approdare a Torino, fatto sta che forzando la mano ha ottenuto l’effetto contrario: via subito la fascia, nessun rinnovo, nessuna cessione alla squadra con cui ha già un accordo da mesi.

    La dirigenza e Zhang hanno capito che era l’ora di farla finita con chi si professa interista a parole ma pensa esclusivamente al proprio tornaconto. Così voleva Spalletti, così vuole Conte. Non esiste l’IO ma esiste il NOI. Non solo: Marotta ha avallato un eventuale discorso con la Juventus solo per uno scambio con Dybala, opzione rifiutata dalla dirigenza bianconera. Da quel momento i rapporti sono diventati alquanto freddi tra Milano e Torino.

    Per questo, in conferenza stampa, Marotta e Conte hanno spinto pubblicamente Icardi fuori dall’Inter, convinti di far capire ai coniugi come l’unica soluzione fosse quella di prendere in considerazione altre destinazioni. Strategia che sembra pian piano fare breccia nella mente di tutti e due.

    Inizialmente infatti Icardi ha rifiutato ogni proposta: “resto qui fino alla fine del contratto”. Adesso però l’opzione Napoli non è più così sgradita, anzi. Wanda in primis ha capito che c’è poco da fare con il nuovo corso nerazzurro: nessun ripensamento e nessuna pietà. Nessuna scappatoia legale, visto lo staff e le strutture messe a disposizione. Con Lukaku e Dzeko pronti ad indossare la maglia nerazzurra, ha compreso che il rischio di vedere Mauro in tribuna o in panchina per due anni è più che ipotizzabile. Certo in cuor suo Wanda spera sempre che Marotta si accordi con la Juventus, reputata la miglior soluzione possibile per lei e la sua famiglia, altrimenti non esisterà altra opzione che far rotta verso una piazza disposta a pagare la cifra richiesta dall’Inter: 70 milioni. De Laurentiis da tempo immemore è affascinato dall’argentino e pure Ancelotti vorrebbe un 9 in grado di fare gol pesanti e importanti.

    Non sarà sicuramente semplice, i colpi di scena sono sempre dietro l’angolo, ed ogni giorno la telenovela si arricchisce di nuovi elementi. Resta il fatto che l’addio è praticamente scontato e ci auguriamo tutti (o quasi) che possa avvenire già in questa sessione di mercato.


    Can't bother to translate it, google translate probably is decent enough. Not saying these guys know the absolute truth of this saga, but they are at least making a better attempt from the 'anti-Icardi' brigade's side which explains their overall stance. What's certain is that these guys do have some connections in the club (for anyone who follows the page, it's obvious).
    I don't get what you wanna say with this post? I mean the blogpost literally blames Wanda for the whole ordeal and Icardi for letting his wife do everything she did. And if true it just show how egoistic and egocentric their worldview truly is. I mean come on!? her plan of letting the contract run out so Icardi would be able to transfer to jube for free. How would that be acceptable at all?! And all of that just because wandito had a verbal agreement for a higher base salary???! Look brehme, for me a true clublegend is someone who understands that when said club is going through a difficult time financially that he has to adjust his wage demands accordingly. I mean Ausilio and Marotta aren't that stupid and probably tried to give him the maximum wage the FFP allowed at that time (I mean Inter was just cleared in may of the FFP and not in January when the contract talks were held)
    look if Icardi would only be a selfish prick I would be okay with that, but having to argue and having to threat him with legal actions only so this primadonna puts on the shirt of this legendary club... sorry but that's a player we certainly can and have to get rid off

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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/lineainterf...type=3&theater

    Parliamo di Icardi anche se ormai di cose ne sono state dette a bizzeffe. Mauro ha capito che proseguire all’Inter è impossibile. Ha tentato di fare orecchie da mercante e ignorare i proclami di Marotta e Conte, sicuro di restare per testardaggine o di non rimetterci in ogni caso, guadagnandosi un posto nella squadra reputata ideale da Wanda. Eh sì avete capito bene: perché è la sua procuratrice/moglie in fondo in fondo a decidere. Non solo comanda lei a livello contrattuale, ma gestisce ogni aspetto finanziario, mentre Mauro è libero di pensare solo a giocare e di fare il papà.

    La delega quindi non è solo come procuratrice ma proprio come curatrice dei suoi beni. Se sta bene a Wanda sta bene anche a Mauro: “tu fai i gol che a fare i soldi ci penso io”. Non fraintendeteci, Icardi non è un cagnolino ammaestrato: è del tutto logico che abbia comunque potere decisionale, semplicemente non si preoccupa affatto degli aspetti finanziari e non dubita che sua moglie possa minimamente danneggiarlo sportivamente parlando.

    Nei fatti però è così: Icardi voleva e vuole restare in nerazzurro. La questione rinnovo però ha fatto precipitare tutto. L’astuta Wanda, forte di un accordo verbale con Paratici, voleva mettere all’angolo l’Inter, forse per dimostrare come 6,5 milioni all’anno proposti non bastassero. Forse perché davvero pensava di far giocare Mauro un altro anno e mezzo in nerazzurro per farlo poi approdare a Torino, fatto sta che forzando la mano ha ottenuto l’effetto contrario: via subito la fascia, nessun rinnovo, nessuna cessione alla squadra con cui ha già un accordo da mesi.

    La dirigenza e Zhang hanno capito che era l’ora di farla finita con chi si professa interista a parole ma pensa esclusivamente al proprio tornaconto. Così voleva Spalletti, così vuole Conte. Non esiste l’IO ma esiste il NOI. Non solo: Marotta ha avallato un eventuale discorso con la Juventus solo per uno scambio con Dybala, opzione rifiutata dalla dirigenza bianconera. Da quel momento i rapporti sono diventati alquanto freddi tra Milano e Torino.

    Per questo, in conferenza stampa, Marotta e Conte hanno spinto pubblicamente Icardi fuori dall’Inter, convinti di far capire ai coniugi come l’unica soluzione fosse quella di prendere in considerazione altre destinazioni. Strategia che sembra pian piano fare breccia nella mente di tutti e due.

    Inizialmente infatti Icardi ha rifiutato ogni proposta: “resto qui fino alla fine del contratto”. Adesso però l’opzione Napoli non è più così sgradita, anzi. Wanda in primis ha capito che c’è poco da fare con il nuovo corso nerazzurro: nessun ripensamento e nessuna pietà. Nessuna scappatoia legale, visto lo staff e le strutture messe a disposizione. Con Lukaku e Dzeko pronti ad indossare la maglia nerazzurra, ha compreso che il rischio di vedere Mauro in tribuna o in panchina per due anni è più che ipotizzabile. Certo in cuor suo Wanda spera sempre che Marotta si accordi con la Juventus, reputata la miglior soluzione possibile per lei e la sua famiglia, altrimenti non esisterà altra opzione che far rotta verso una piazza disposta a pagare la cifra richiesta dall’Inter: 70 milioni. De Laurentiis da tempo immemore è affascinato dall’argentino e pure Ancelotti vorrebbe un 9 in grado di fare gol pesanti e importanti.

    Non sarà sicuramente semplice, i colpi di scena sono sempre dietro l’angolo, ed ogni giorno la telenovela si arricchisce di nuovi elementi. Resta il fatto che l’addio è praticamente scontato e ci auguriamo tutti (o quasi) che possa avvenire già in questa sessione di mercato.


    Can't bother to translate it, google translate probably is decent enough. Not saying these guys know the absolute truth of this saga, but they are at least making a better attempt from the 'anti-Icardi' brigade's side which explains their overall stance. What's certain is that these guys do have some connections in the club (for anyone who follows the page, it's obvious).
    You obviously don’t understand JACK SHIT in Italian!

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    Where did I say that I agree with what was said or that I added it to strengthen my opinion?

    I explicitly mentioned that this is the point of view of someone who is AGAINST Icardi and that is how you engage in a debate about the subject and not with generic "fuck Icardi" spasms...
    I also find it laughable that you commented on my Italian skills when I made no attempt to describe what was written in the post... What a douche

    You obviously don't understand JACK SHIT in English!
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    That article is, exactly same thing as many here on fif has said for months now, that you love to disagree with your "show me proof bullshit", but then post some text from a fb page, as some kind of better proof of what we've been saying on here, as an pathetic attempt to underline what fiffers have been saying!
    So you either jumping ships here, and agreeing with us, or like i said, you're clearly clueless what that article saying, cuz if anything, they're agreeing with the majority, which you clearly have issues with.

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    No, the only issue here is that you cannot tolerate that someone you disagree with is being objective.

    I simply added something that "your side" has failed to provide. Which is reasoning. I don't agree with what is written and think some bits are farfetched, but there is also some truth in there. Like Icardi not wanting to leave Inter but being forced by Marotta to find a new club. They also do not say why this is happening. They just comment on the 'what' as well, but at least they have something to show for. The only other thing strong view is that Icardi is whipped by Wanda. Omg what a surprise

    Another example is Bluenine here. His reasoning is on the 'what happened next' and I don't condone that. I'm more interested into why Icardi is being ostracized. On the other hand, we have ungrateful people here who have always looked to bash Icardi and are now rejoicing at the fact that Marotta is tossing him out of the club due to "no fucking reason". Because the decision to toss him out predates the removal of the armband. That was the first sign towards Icardi that he's out of Inter. Whatever Icardi (stupidly) did after that is just a reaction to him being thrown out of Inter.

    @Bluenine, I hope this clarifies that you are not part of the "anti-Icardi brigade" that I'm referring to.
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    Well, for one, i was a big Icardi fan, so no, im not just taking this opportunity to bash Icardi just for the hell of it.
    Second, i can say same thing to you, you're ungrateful for Marotta, and always looking to bash him, no matter what the facts are, or whichever you choose to ignore.
    Third, Bluenine, and other members have said everything, AND LITTLE MORE, then this article is really saying, yet you posting it here, as some kind of new insight, which in truth is bunch of same bla bla bla that you like to condone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InterFCAustin View Post
    Well, for one, i was a big Icardi fan, so no, im not just taking this opportunity to bash Icardi just for the hell of it.
    Hm... Yourself in 2018 seems to disagree.
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    Man, i'm not Icardi's biggest fan by a stretch
    You sure did care more about Wanda than Icardi in the last 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    Hm... Yourself in 2018 seems to disagree.


    You sure did care more about Wanda than Icardi in the last 2 years.
    That's absolutely true. I dont understand what's the issue with those statements. You cant change opinions on players?
    Icardi has been here long time, so just like with other players, it has been love/hate relationship with him.
    That's why i base my opinions on him with what's going on currently, as opposed to like you said earlier, bash him just to bash him. I started bashing him only last year when he started this bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    Hm... Yourself in 2018 seems to disagree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by InterFCAustin View Post
    That's absolutely true. I dont understand what's the issue with those statements. You cant change opinions on players?
    Icardi has been here long time, so just like with other players, it has been love/hate relationship with him.
    That's why i base my opinions on him with what's going on currently, as opposed to like you said earlier, bash him just to bash him. I started bashing him only last year when he started this bullshit.
    What bullshit? Your activity in the summer of 2018 around Icardi was 'thanking' posts that bashed Wanda and indirectly Icardi for "wanting to leave". Also known as 'dancing to the tunes of the media'.


    Speaking of which, let's see here, 2 days before the captaincy was stripped:
    Beppe Marotta has assured Inter fans that Mauro Icardi’s renewal ‘isn’t a problem whatsoever’, promising to ‘manage the situation in the best way’.

    Icardi appeared to be closing in on a new deal last month, but speculation surrounding whether or not he will put pen to paper has resurfaced, with Coach Luciano Spalletti and agent-wife Wanda making public statements.

    “The victory over Parma was important and convincing,” Marotta told Tuttomercatoweb.

    “The team and Coach did well. We rediscovered our conviction and I saw Nainggolan and Perisic in great condition.

    “I’ve talked to Spalletti over the phone and we’ll talk again today or tomorrow morning. We’ll manage the situation in the best way and in everyone’s interest.

    “Icardi’s renewal isn’t a problem whatsoever. We’ve already said what we had to say, beyond the clarification with Spalletti.

    “We’ll manage the situation, but I can confirm that there won’t be a problem.”
    Yeap, this was the best way to handle the situation without problems
    I've bolded something that should give some clues as to what changed between the 11th and the next days...

    And here's a post you 'thanked', just under this post:

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    And why are we talking about it?

    This situation is beyond ridiculous. Icardi should be stripped of captaincy by the next coach, or sold if good offer arrives.

    Also... It starts to be very telling, that in the current inflated market with stats as good as Icardi have, nobody wants to pay his release clause for 25 year old. Why do you think is that?

    This situation is ridiculous and Icardi should be ashamed of himself that he didn't tell his agent to shut the fuck up in the public regarding anything that deals with his contract.

    Captain my ass...
    I guess you were really pissed at him in advance for scheduling a 6 week armband mourning period...


    It's quite funny going back to those days. You'll see the 'anti-Icardi brigade' saying the same shit they were saying back then but after that moment they started being even more cocky about it.

    It's even funnier going back to November/December when the same people were saying the same shit once more and lots of others would respond to them. Now most of them have changed their minds, mostly due to the silly hiatus. Which I'll repeat that we have no official confirmation from Inter that no injury exists and nothing to support the claim that he was faking it. Inter punished Nainggolan and Icardi for stupid things, after removing the armband they definitely had their chance to officially punish him for refusing to train with the first team. But that would probably cause him to open his mouth and speak about why the captaincy was stripped and I'm assuming the management didn't really want that to happen so they decided to play dead along with Icardi....
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    I am now convinced that brehme1989 is not a person, but rather a company of 12 to 15 employees specialized in posting comments on FIF.

    There is no fucking way they posted that reply to InterAustin's comment within 6 minutes unless they had his posts relating to this specific topic readily available somewhere.

    Not to mention the many multi-paragraph posts they daily put out on various threads throughout a day with stats and what not. No single person could do that on working days.

    Also good grammar, and not a single typo in their posts.
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    oh ffs this thread



    my crazy brain give me the power to not enter here again

    I think I overdosed on brehme's posts...

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    close the thread, he is not an inter player anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    What bullshit? Your activity in the summer of 2018 around Icardi was 'thanking' posts that bashed Wanda and indirectly Icardi for "wanting to leave". Also known as 'dancing to the tunes of the media'.


    Speaking of which, let's see here, 2 days before the captaincy was stripped:


    Yeap, this was the best way to handle the situation without problems
    I've bolded something that should give some clues as to what changed between the 11th and the next days...

    And here's a post you 'thanked', just under this post:



    I guess you were really pissed at him in advance for scheduling a 6 week armband mourning period...


    It's quite funny going back to those days. You'll see the 'anti-Icardi brigade' saying the same shit they were saying back then but after that moment they started being even more cocky about it.

    It's even funnier going back to November/December when the same people were saying the same shit once more and lots of others would respond to them. Now most of them have changed their minds, mostly due to the silly hiatus. Which I'll repeat that we have no official confirmation from Inter that no injury exists and nothing to support the claim that he was faking it. Inter punished Nainggolan and Icardi for stupid things, after removing the armband they definitely had their chance to officially punish him for refusing to train with the first team. But that would probably cause him to open his mouth and speak about why the captaincy was stripped and I'm assuming the management didn't really want that to happen so they decided to play dead along with Icardi....
    Again, bunch of bullshit that you cling to to prove and non existential point that only exists in your heads. Just cuz you’re obsessed with digging and
    So what if I like someone’s post? Sometimes you agree with something to an extent, what’s wrong with thanking?
    Doesn’t prove jack shit.
    Again, Icardi has been a fluid situation through the years, so I don’t get what you trying to prove here. Love/hate relationship with this guy is been off the charts. Media has nothing to do with it. He’s done shit load of things that hasn’t nothing to do with media hype.
    You just chasing your own tail here if anything.

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    I'm merely wondering when you were a "big fan of Icardi" except when trying to pretend that your opinion on him has not been negative in the hope that no one bothers to check on your posts.

    I mean, I can't pretend to be a "big fan of Conte" at any point in the future. That would be silly of me and there's no evidence of me praising Conte under any circumstances. He hopefully may shift my opinion however unlikely I find it, but I won't claim that I was ever a big fan of his. And I'd say "I'm not Conte's biggest fan by any stretch" whenever I wanted to say something in his favor. So I'm not chasing any tails since I've already caught yours.

    Whether you admit it or not, lots of you have had a worse stance against Icardi since ages ago than I have had on Conte during the last 6 months that Marotta brought him into our lives. And that list includes yourself. And now many think that they are sort of vindicated for hating on him for years and make this a pissing contest of "I was right about him all along". Yeah, all 100+ goals along...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    I'm merely wondering when you were a "big fan of Icardi" except when trying to pretend that your opinion on him has not been negative in the hope that no one bothers to check on your posts.

    I mean, I can't pretend to be a "big fan of Conte" at any point in the future. That would be silly of me and there's no evidence of me praising Conte under any circumstances. He hopefully may shift my opinion however unlikely I find it, but I won't claim that I was ever a big fan of his. And I'd say "I'm not Conte's biggest fan by any stretch" whenever I wanted to say something in his favor. So I'm not chasing any tails since I've already caught yours.

    Whether you admit it or not, lots of you have had a worse stance against Icardi since ages ago than I have had on Conte during the last 6 months that Marotta brought him into our lives. And that list includes yourself. And now many think that they are sort of vindicated for hating on him for years and make this a pissing contest of "I was right about him all along". Yeah, all 100+ goals along...
    So if you took the time the dig in my post history, I’m 10000% sure you found post where I praised Icardis ability, and if I remember correctly, that post you quoted, you left out the rest of it, I was praising him, but you obviously pick and chose what we say, only if it benefits your obsessions to prove someone wrong. And that’s what I meant with being his fan.
    But again, like you’ve been doing this past two three months, you only chose to pick post, god knows in what contexts it was said back then, and stating it here as if it proves you right. And you’re only benefiting from the fact, I don’t give a damn to prove you wrong, and dig into your history, cuz I’m 100% sure, you or anyone, at different times, had different opinions about any given subject.
    Especially about Icardi. One of the most polarizing players we’ve had in a while.
    I Also used to be big Spalleti fan when we first got him, then I start losing respect for him. Does that mean anything?
    Zero! Just fans being fans. And you, are absolutely a fan just like us, so stop pretending you’re a high society inter fan with “interim sources”, and you know the truth, and the rest of us who criticize Icardi, we don’t need know Jack shit.
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    To be fair, opinion changes all the time, completely dependent on the action of the subject.

    I have both criticised and praised Icardi throughout the years, I don’t think that is a problem.
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