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    EspnFc - Top 20 Greatest Managers

    I don't like classification and all but this is a list of the 20 greatest managers according to ESPN.

    • No. 20: Fabio Capello
    • No. 19: Udo Lattek
    • No. 18: Pep Guardiola
    • No. 17: Jock Stein
    • No. 16: Bela Guttmann
    • No. 15: Marcello Lippi
    • No. 14: Ernst Happel
    • No. 13: Ottmar Hitzfeld
    • No. 12: Giovanni Trapattoni
    • No. 11: Vicente del Bosque
    • No. 10: Bill Shankly
    • No. 9: Jose Mourinho
    • No. 8: Valeri Lobanovsky
    • No. 7: Sir Matt Busby
    • No. 6: Arrigo Sacchi
    • No. 5: Helenio Herrera
    • No. 4: Bob Paisley
    • No. 3: Brian Clough
    • No. 2: Rinus Michels
    • No. 1: Sir Alex Ferguson

    http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1517451/?cc=5739

    Pretty detable list and too much anglo-centric (not surprising from an american tv),I didn't get the criterium of making this list too,if it's based on how "revolutionary" or "innovative" a coach is or just based on success and such... I see a LOT of missings here.

    "Sir" Alex is overrated as hell.

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    Not much thought went into that list.

    No Johan Cruyff ? Oh dear
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    Tony Pulis is the obvious miss from the list. How he revolutionized the game by making pitch as narrow as possible and using throw ins as good as possible was pure genius.


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    Stupidest list ever. 10 to 20 are better than the top ten

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    lmao fergie at nr.1. what can you expect from an anglophilic network.

    Fergie ahead of Rinus Michels? Cruyff? Hugo Meisl? Herrera? Sacchi? What about Herbert Chapman w/ Arsenal in the 30s? I know Fergie was a great manager, but he never revolutionized football like the previous men have.

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    You could make an argument that Fergie revolutionised the man-management side of the game. Regenerating and rebuilding squads over the years and being able to consistently manage large squads well was one of his great abilities.
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    The enclusion of Jock Stein made the list worthwhile for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    The enclusion of Jock Stein made the list worthwhile for me
    And absolutely deserved it. Did anyone ever achieved the same feat again? Winning European cup with a team full of players born within the radius of 30 Miles from the club?

    Also re SAF, people only remember his achievements with ManUtd and rarely gets credit for his achievements with Aberdeen. Winning Cup winners cup with them beating Madrid was a magnificient achievement and also breaking Celtic and Rangers dominance with such a smaller club like Aberdeen and winning few league titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzy View Post
    You could make an argument that Fergie revolutionised the man-management side of the game. Regenerating and rebuilding squads over the years and being able to consistently manage large squads well was one of his great abilities.
    You might be right about it,but the Ferguson impact on football can't be compared to the likes of Pozzo,Chapman (good call that Fapuccino),Michels,Herrera,Sacchi and Lattek...

    I see Clough,Mourinho and Paisley too high on that list too.
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    Wouldn't disagree with the number 1 pick but the rest of the top 10...

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    ESPN please stay talking and writing for american NHF, NFL and other american sports and let to europeans deal with football


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    Quote Originally Posted by Handoyo View Post
    Wouldn't disagree with the number 1 pick but the rest of the top 10...
    lol you wont disagree with number 1? Ferguson mamagirial skills consists of shouting and swearing like most British manager's. And whats with all the British on the list seriously get the fuck out of here with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzy View Post
    You could make an argument that Fergie revolutionised the man-management side of the game. Regenerating and rebuilding squads over the years and being able to consistently manage large squads well was one of his great abilities.
    That's some pretty good bullshitting there Fitzy. Was your undergrad in English? How can you put Fergie ahead of the father of Total Football?

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    And absolutely deserved it. Did anyone ever achieved the same feat again? Winning European cup with a team full of players born within the radius of 30 Miles from the club?

    Also re SAF, people only remember his achievements with ManUtd and rarely gets credit for his achievements with Aberdeen. Winning Cup winners cup with them beating Madrid was a magnificient achievement and also breaking Celtic and Rangers dominance with such a smaller club like Aberdeen and winning few league titles.
    To be great is more than just achieving results, you have to revolutionize the game is played.

    Maybe they meant simply managers and not tacticians, then I have no problem with Fergie.

    But if they meant in terms of tactics then no way.

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    For the "Oh Americans get a clue" the author of the article is European.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Jesus View Post
    For the "Oh Americans get a clue" the author of the article is European.
    Iain Macintosh?? another Uk propagandistic journo??
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    Well thats what it says. Don't know who he is wiki says he's a UK journo.
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    If it's based on how "revolutionary" a coach is, then Zdenek Zeman and Johan Cruyff are obvious omissions

    You could also argue that Karl Rappan deserves a shout out (based on that criteria)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fapuccino View Post
    That's some pretty good bullshitting there Fitzy. Was your undergrad in English? How can you put Fergie ahead of the father of Total Football?


    I didn't put anyone in front of anyone. Just speculating on reasons why Ferguson is on there and others have been left out. Of course I personally agree that Cruyff and others should be on the list.
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