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    Balotelli to Liverpool - Brilliant or Disaster?

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    With the news today of Mario Balotelli almost definitely signing for Liverpool, I wanted to take the opportunity to review a player I first saw play for Inter’s Primavera versus Sheffield FC in November 2007, playing alongside a then-recovering World Cup winner Marco Materazzi.

    Inter Primavera v Sheffield FC, Mario Balotelli's first real public outing

    Balotelli is a player who is best characterised as, on his day, one of the best strikers in the game. I remember watching the tail end of a Milan game earlier this season, where, after 85 minutes of boring 0-0, Balotelli decides out of nowhere to score a wondergoal to win Milan the game. I think little has summed up the rollercoaster ride of Balotelli as the last season. At some times genius, at other times disinterested and a disaster – lack of talent, as we see from Jonathan, is something fans will forgive for, but laziness is not.

    Mario Balotelli in action

    As Italy fans will know, when Balotelli wants to turn up, he really turns up. He can single-handedly win games. I don’t claim he is the most talented striker in the world, but rather, the sheer audacity in many of the things he does – wondergoal as a case in point. But what he does have going for him is his ability to simply get things done, when he wants to.

    The other Mario Balotelli

    And therein lies the problem. When he wants to. But then it is time to consider the Liverpool atmosphere.

    One area where Balotelli really failed at Inter was his integration with a much older squad. He often grated on the more senior members of the team – such as trying to take the penalty off Milito (if I remember correctly), his frequent falling out with Materazzi, and so forth. Moving to Liverpool he will find a completely different environment, with a young squad with the right amount of experience, with a lot of players of his own age (infact many younger) for him to joke around with. I believe he’ll find Liverpool, at least at first, a more harmonious environment for his own needs.

    Add to this Brendan Rodgers – a man who has managed to coax the best out of several of his team who have historically underperformed or underachieved. He managed to solve, rather quickly and efficiently, issues with players such as Raheem Sterling – who had legal issues of his own. On top of this, he gives his attacking players the freedom they need to really express themselves, and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Balotelli given the free reign that he has longed for – no defensive duties.

    We need to look at where Balotelli fits in to the picture, too. Liverpool won’t drop Sturridge for Balotelli, and I think that the all-action striker role is his best – so either a tactical overhaul to 4-4-2 (unlikely) is in the works, or a rotation role, or the inside forward. I suspect we’ll see a mixture of the latter two, given Liverpool’s lack of depth in the last few seasons, but fundamentally I think Balotelli will be a rotation player for Liverpool. And that concerns me, as I don’t know how his attitude will sit with that. I have no doubt that being benched at Inter in the treble season was a large source of the boredom for Balotelli which ultimately led to his exit at Inter.

    One thing we should look at is that, effectively, Balotelli’s transfers have been for decreasing amounts of money since he left Inter. A 22 million euro transfer to City, before a 20 million euro move to Milan, and now 19-20 to Liverpool, what is happening is that managers are considering the cost-benefit for Mario Balotelli, and progressively reducing their valuation on the risk analysis chart.

    I think Balotelli is very fortunate to be given this chance at a big club again, after his failures at Milan, his boyhood club, the club he’s always dreamed of playing at, and yet his shortest career stint to date. One might state that Balotelli was being unfairly targeted as a scapegoat by the fans at Milan, or that a move to a club which came 2nd in the Premiership last year and have reinforced and are competing in the Champions League this year is a step up for him, but there can be no denial that leaving Milan was almost certainly not entirely Balotelli’s decision.

    I think it’ll be interesting to see where this goes. I think I’ve explored to some depth the reasons on either side for the argument, and I’ll let you make up your mind as to which way it will go. Please do let me know, though, and if you feel I’ve missed any compelling reasons, arguments, or perspectives, please let me know!


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    Mario just needs to get out of Italy. The entire country is scapegoating him, and it's absolutely ridiculous. They're blaming him for Milan's ineptitude, they're blaming him for Italy getting bounced AGAIN early at the WC. He needs to get out of the country.

    I think this might be the best case scenario for him as a pro.
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    Still Mario has played better in Italy than England. There can be lots of reasons for that for sure, but I don't think that he will feel home in England and it won't take too long before he moves away from there.

    IMO this is bad deal for both clubs.

    Mario won't settle in Liverpool

    and Milan lost a player who loves the club(good merchandise value&supporters like him).

    Mario has the best goalscoring talent that I have ever seen. I think he will never get the highest level of himself.
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    Disaster in the making........... will cause problems for any club he joins. because he's an attention seeking moron.

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    He will be a fiasco and sold to Juventus in 2 seasons.

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    He didn't ''fail'' at Milan like the article suggests.

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    His first s\eason, no, but after being shipped off unceremoniously, for a pay cut, with no love from the fans? I disagree. He did fail, and I think most Milan fans would agree.

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    Fail at what?Not being sold for profit?Yes.

    On the pitch?Never.

    He was their main man for the year and a half he was there.Wasn't his fault he was the lone striker in a weak team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numero Dieci View Post
    Fail at what?Not being sold for profit?Yes.

    On the pitch?Never.

    He was their main man for the year and a half he was there.Wasn't his fault he was the lone striker in a weak team.
    Exactly

    But I think he will be a disaster for Liverpool. They sold Suarez and get Balo, that's not an upgrade tbh. Italian medias say Eto'o will join them for 1 year.
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    being the 'main man' on a struggling team is not a bragging right though...

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    True.

    Still doesn't mean he failed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    Mario just needs to get out of Italy. The entire country is scapegoating him, and it's absolutely ridiculous. They're blaming him for Milan's ineptitude, they're blaming him for Italy getting bounced AGAIN early at the WC. He needs to get out of the country.

    I think this might be the best case scenario for him as a pro.
    So Balotelli is the kind of players who get bored without playing time but cannot handle the pressure of a player who leads the team?

    If anyone is wondering where Balo failed at there are 2 options for you, come to milan forums or just look at the inconsistancy of Guarin,at least Guarin is not a psycho.

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    Balotelli didnt fail in the sense of someone like Zarate, no

    But he joined his boyhood club, the big move he'd been pining for his *entire* career - and the move that CAUSED HIM to leave Inter... and he left after 18 months?

    Don't tell me thats not a failure on some level.

    His second season was also poor - many Milan fans blamed him for their failures (whether fair or not) - its fair to say they arent exactly upset at this loss.

    depends on the replacement tbf.

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    Blaming him?You know who gets blaimed the most in a team that doesn't work usually?The best player.Did Kevin Constant get much hate?No because he's like a Jonathan.Everybody knows he's shit.

    Again if the team has a bad season doesn't mean some of the players have a bad season.Scoring wise he had his best season of his career.
    Dario Hubner was capocanonniere at Piacenza when they finished 12th in the league.Does that mean he failed?

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    Blaming him?You know who gets blaimed the most in a team that doesn't work usually?The best player.Did Kevin Constant get much hate?No because he's like a Jonathan.Everybody knows he's shit.

    Again if the team has a bad season doesn't mean some of the players have a bad season.Scoring wise he had his best season of his career.
    Dario Hubner was capocanonniere at Piacenza when they finished 12th in the league.Does that mean he failed?

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    well, he also played more matches than any previous season too
    from a rate perspective.. it was his worst season since 2010/2011 (his first season at city)

    just looking at the AC forums, most of them are glad to see him leave, I think that says it all tbh.

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    on a more serious note though if you are legit balotelli, PM me, there's a very good reason we need to talk for non-football things

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    Like I said about that blaming thing.Has nothing to do with performance but people's idiocy.I explained it-the best player's toll-they get blaimed when the team fails.It always happens it always will.

    What do you mean legit?I am a big Balotelli fan yes if that's what you mean.

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    no, i had a theory a while ago that you were mario, if you were we need to talk about something, if not nvm

    anyway

    There's certainly an element of truth to that, but I dont think there are many people who have looked quite so disinterested as balotelli at Milan in the last few months?

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    If I would be Mario do you think I would tell you?Haha.

    Either way Liverpool>Milan so it's a good deal for Mario.

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    I think you would tell me if you knew what I knew

    Yeah, Liverpool is clearly a step up, but I think to leave his 'childhood' club so quickly will be viewed as a failure - both by fans and by him personally. Also not to mention the fact that his transfer value continually decreases, rather than increases. This blog is great:

    here

    and as it points out, balotelli should be a £50m player..

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