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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...-playing-draw/

    Radamel Falcao and Peru midfielder admit discussing playing for a draw during World Cup qualifier


    In the last five minutes, the Colombians approached us. They knew what the situation was in the other games," Tapia told Panamericana TV.

    "So we managed the game as we needed to... I spoke with Radamel, who told me we were both qualified (as things stood), but it's football and we play to win."
    "As usual in Italy some decisions are made without sense and logic. The dark side of the football that we tried to clean up returns to light".

    Fabio Liverani, Lecce coach.


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    People are mad that Ospina touched the ball on a indirect kick leading to Peru’s goal. Was it stupid. Fk yea. It also eliminated Chile. But no team is required to win to qualify another.

    People are mad at Mexico for not Beating Honduras.

    Most teams just use new players after qualifying or being eliminated. I thought colombia would have qualified by beating Venezuela and used the last 2 games to test new guys out. Was wrong. Only team who took the whole 18 games seriously was Brazil. They are on a mission to rape Germany in 2018.
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    a few thoughts by sampaoli about chilean players. apparently, we dodged a bullet on vidal:

    http://www.calciomercato.com/en/news...exi-sanc-45311

    notice how sampaoli said those things "in private" 2 years ago. smart guy, tells stuff "in private" to journalists.
    Last edited by firmino; 13 Oct 17 at 15:49.
    "As usual in Italy some decisions are made without sense and logic. The dark side of the football that we tried to clean up returns to light".

    Fabio Liverani, Lecce coach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by firmino View Post
    a few thoughts by sampaoli about chilean players. apparently, we dodget a bullet on vidal:

    http://www.calciomercato.com/en/news...exi-sanc-45311

    notice how samapoli said those things "in private" 2 years ago. smart guy, tells stuff "in private" to journalists.
    Saying in private happens all the time, "off the record". That's why Mourinho was pissed off when he made comments on Eto'o age and it made the papers because that was off the record joke/comment.

    Usually Journalists won't print those as they want to maintain good relationship with coaches to have one to one interviews or some leaked info from time to time.


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    I was with a football agent who lurks in the South American region a lot and we were discussing football talents that he's transferred and a few others. At some point, as we were discussing Conmebol issues, he mentioned about Chilean players that their main issue is that they are heavy drinkers and generally tend to have a drinking problem, which made them very risky transfers despite their talent, especially moving to the other side of the world. At first I thought it was due to bias, as he's very pro-Argentina and probably had a couple of bad experiences with Chileans, but I see that he may have a point.
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    You can do great in your early 20’s while basically being an alcoholic or drug addict (depending on the drug of course). But those chickens always come to roost in your late 20s and early 30s. Obviously Brazilians are the best example of this.

    Vidal seems to still have maintained a good level though, although he’s definitely nowhere near his Juve form. I guess the rumors of them letting him go due to off the field issues may have been true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdude View Post
    You can do great in your early 20’s while basically being an alcoholic or drug addict (depending on the drug of course). But those chickens always come to roost in your late 20s and early 30s. Obviously Brazilians are the best example of this.

    Vidal seems to still have maintained a good level though, although he’s definitely nowhere near his Juve form. I guess the rumors of them letting him go due to off the field issues may have been true.
    Yeah there is clear decline in Vidal's game, especially physical part.

    Taking care of physical fitness is very important, shame so many don't care full care of themselves. Rooney is also one more good example, he is just 31 but from last 2-3 years he is on massive decline and plays like a player in mid 30s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    We had something similar in mind in the 2004 Euro, with Greek football being corrupted beyond imagination (unless you witnessed Stasi's Dynamo Berlin) and everyone was like "the Euro will make us get stronger". Instead, the same shit kept on and then the corruption penetrated towards the NT with the corrupted bodies deciding who plays and who doesn't just because it was easier to showcase some players for... promoting them for extravagant and inexplicable sales. So Greek football has deteriorated from that and the corruption just increased.

    Nonetheless, winning the Euro 2004 was epic. Mostly because the team that corrupted and terrorized the league had almost nothing to do with that success, it was the "losers" from the two other teams that won everything, including Karagounis. I also don't like the Greek team, stopped caring about it completely in 2012 or something. So I get your point of view. It's a bit weird for outsiders of course, but Croatia's players are international stars mostly unlike the Greeks who are like expensive shepherds in football terms, so it's even weirder to see people feeling this way about a considerably strong team. Argentina is also corrupt as fuck, so is Italy, but I'm not sure people don't support their NTs because of their corrupt FAs.
    I know for this case:
    https://psmag.com/news/political-cor...zils-world-cup

    In football country Brazil.Thats something.Very interesting story.

    I understand that most of people from outside cant understand something like this but there is a strong reasons why someone cant support NT.

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    Fifa said that euro teams must release players. South America right not is super fkd with Covid.

    So do all euro teams lose players for 2 weeks then another 2 weeks due to quarantine? Only to do it again for November qualifiers?

    Euro teams want South American teams to play qualifiers in Europe. Other option was to do 3 games instead of 2 games per fifa window since we were suppose to start in March
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    I started this thread for the 2018 WC qualifiers

    When it started it looked like Chile and Ecuador were the teams to beat. Neither ended up qualifying as South American qualifiers are a long and brutal road. Will be worse now with Covid. Ecuador is another interesting team to watch out for. Chile isn’t getting any younger so interesting to see if their golden generation as enough in the tank to push them to Qatar

    To me Venezuela is the team to watch. Only team with 0 shot to qualify is Bolivia. The other 9 teams can all make it.

    Funny in 2015 I thought Falcao was a Zombie. While he did recover. I am
    Still worried that the new coach will start him over Duvan and Muriel which makes 0 sense those dudes are part of a team that win games by 5 goals a game.

    I know everyone thinks I hate Argentina but their roster does not look that strong other than strikersv
    VAR is some serious Bullshit!

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    Chile got openly robbed .... clearest hand ball I have ever seen

    Players injured. Arias of Colombia broke his ankle.

    Excited to see Colombia v Chile on Tuesday. The Atalanta trio out there with James ..... is flap worthy. Def the most exciting game of round 2

    All the other games are meh

    Tho Argentina has a young squad wonder if it is so the altitude of Bolivia doesn’t kill them and get spanked 6-1 again

    If Venezuela can recover and beat Paraguay at home they might have a shot to qualify. If not 2026 time

    I expect Ecuador to win at home against Uruguay but who knows. The refs let Uruguay get away with murder

    Hopefully Peru can beat Brazil at home to keep things interesting.

    Tho in South America getting any points vs Argentina or Brazil (home/away) is a win. Bringing anything back from a away visit to Bolivia or Ecuador is a massive win as the altitude kills teams. Then just try to win all your home Game
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    Both our Chile boys scored against Colombia.

    You mad ?
    <<Gli scudetti è giusto vincerli sul campo>> Antonio Conte on Calciopoli

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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    Both our Chile boys scored against Colombia.

    You mad ?
    Vidal is a cunt!!

    We got robbed a goal. Every goal, handball needs to go directly to var. coaches should be allowed to challenge up to 3 ref calls a game like American football.

    Dude Sanchez fking rapes Cuadrado every time he plays Colombia. He better do that shit for a inter against a Juve!!

    But no I like Chile game style and want to steal their coach (he is Colombian). They are just getting really old. To me they have been the best South American team the last 10 years with the generation they had with Bravo, Alexis and Vidal. Their guys just don’t play in big teams so you guys don’t nut on them like you do with Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina.

    But all games ended like I expected

    Big win for Argentina in Bolivia. Like I expected they took a young team to not be so effected by the altitude
    Venezuela lost so to me they are eliminated.

    Colombia next month has Uruguay at home then Ecuador away. 2 huge games and it we get 4 again or 6 would be super happy

    Think we should have won I don’t know why the Murillo goal didn’t coach.
    VAR is some serious Bullshit!

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