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  • 10 - Will be one of the absolutely best players in the history of the game (think Meazza, Matheus)

    1 1.69%
  • 9 - Will be one of the club legends, and become one of the best players in the world of their era

    6 10.17%
  • 8 - A player of very good quality, who will add much to the team, one of the best nationalwise

    22 37.29%
  • 7 - Good player, a valuble asset of a team, one of the 10-15 best on his position in the country

    14 23.73%
  • 6 - Above average player, who will be usefull, but will never be a key player for a team

    7 11.86%
  • 5 - Completely average player

    2 3.39%
  • 4 - Below average, not a disaster, but would be better if we didn't sign him in the first place

    3 5.08%
  • 3 - Anonymous player who will never be remembered through the fact nobody expected anything from him

    0 0%
  • 2 - Close to a useless player, who will add nothing to the team besides filling the CL quota

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  • 1 - Crap, shit, useless player, worst buisness ever, Mancini, Quaresma and Gresko combined

    4 6.78%
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Thread: Gabriel 'Gabigol' Barbosa

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    TMW report more details about Gabigol move to Flamengo. Free loan but at least Flamengo are going to pay his full salary.

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    So a dry loan till the end of the season then try to find a buyer before June 30th for our capital gains?
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    Yeah, such bullshit moves. We just keep taking capital hits with this guy, we will sell him only when his capital value is like 5m€ or something (dunno if that is even possible, what is his capital value for one year?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeCordoba View Post
    Yeah, such bullshit moves. We just keep taking capital hits with this guy, we will sell him only when his capital value is like 5m€ or something (dunno if that is even possible, what is his capital value for one year?)
    From Gazzetta dello Sport last September:

    Come the January transfer window it is unlikely that a permanent solution will be found for the 22-year-old but something not so unlikely is Inter’s chances of making a capital gain on him. In January his value will be budgeted at €14.8 million and six months later in the summer it will be €11.8 million.

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    Next level shit! We've apparently extended the contract with this guy when we loaned him!

    Seriously it makes sense, first to get the capital hit lower and second to have possibly some value in this guy after multiple loan spells.

    I'm pretty sure his annual salary was decreased after this extension. Otherwise it would be just insane.

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    According to Brazilian media, it will be a one year loan, not 6 month loan. Inter aren't getting an option for any of Flamengo youngsters. The agreement between Inter and Flamengo also includes two clauses:

    1) If Inter cut his loan short then Flamengo will pay only half of his salary.

    2) If Inter sell Gabigol in June Flamengo will receive 5% of the transfer fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Drago View Post
    According to Brazilian media, it will be a one year loan, not 6 month loan. Inter aren't getting an option for any of Flamengo youngsters. The agreement between Inter and Flamengo also includes two clauses:

    1) If Inter cut his loan short then Flamengo will pay only half of his salary.

    2) If Inter sell Gabigol in June Flamengo will receive 5% of the transfer fee.
    Just to show us how unwanted Gabigol is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoramG View Post
    Fabrizio Romano is saying the same, says it's because of issues getting the work permit for West Ham: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/s...16234393382914

    God fucking damn it. Not even an option on that Lincoln kid? Bah.
    I also read that move to West Ham collapsed because he didn`t get work permit. And it makes sense, EPL has strict regulations regarding foreign players and their NT status.

    Globoesporte reports that the Brazilian club will have the player on loan and will pay his wage of 3.5 million euros in full. The player should be in Rio de Janeiro next Wednesday to have a medical exam before signing contract. Then he will reach his new teammates in the United States.

    Quote Originally Posted by Il Drago View Post
    According to Brazilian media, it will be a one year loan, not 6 month loan. Inter aren't getting an option for any of Flamengo youngsters. The agreement between Inter and Flamengo also includes two clauses:

    1) If Inter cut his loan short then Flamengo will pay only half of his salary.

    2) If Inter sell Gabigol in June Flamengo will receive 5% of the transfer fee.
    This makes sense. Source?

    According to Globoesporte, Barbosa will go on loan once again and for him, this new contract has a deadline set at the end of 2019.

    In return, Inter will have an option to sign a young player of Flamengo in the future. That is if Flamengo receive an offer for that player, they will have to let Inter know to see if they want to match the offer.

    Transfermarkt confirms that we have just extended his Inter contract yesterday until 2021. This helps us to protect the investment with all these free loans and spread the value over the years, so we can gain more capital gain in the books once we manage to sell him. Hopefully we can do this during the summer transfer window, by the end of this season. BTW, Transfermarkt rates his value being €8m now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DARi0 View Post
    This makes sense. Source?
    https://twitter.com/fcin1908it/statu...96185759465473

    https://globoesporte.globo.com/futeb...flamengo.ghtml

    Another interesting fact is Flamengo also got Arrascaeta from Cruzeiro for 15m (most expensive transfer in the history of Brazilian football) but they weren't willing to accept anything but a free loan for Gabigol.

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    actually it decreases the capital gains we make when we sell him, by extending his contract. His value depreciation will be further spread/reduced, so it will take longer for him to depreciate. If we sell him at, say, 10 mil, then selling him on a longer term contract = less capital gains. We do it to spread his amoritsation over a longer time period, thus reducing our book impact in any one particular year, but reducing our ability to make capital gains off him in future.

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    Same reason we extended the contracts of a load of deadwood last season right?
    Strachan can suck my tiny schlong

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    Yep

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    Hahaha wha a clustefuck indeed. So Flamengo made all kind of demands and clauses and shit. And what we got in return? Basically only thing we get in this is that we don't have to pay his salary. Despite Gabigol being a top scored in Brazilian league, he has almost no value because his salary is so big?

    Simply astonishingly bad investment. I feel bad for Ausilio (and Marotta) to have to deal with this shit. But also they haven't managed to get any kind of decent deal out of this.

    When it comes to extension, that is pure damage control. They have evaluated that it's more probable Gabigol will be at Inter's books for some time so it's better to decrease the capital hit rather than hope to sell him for good amount to get capital gains.

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    That is a spectacularly bad deal from an Inter point of view. Even if there were work permit issues with England clubs, IMO a loan deal in Spain/Italy would have been a much better solution even if the small club does not pay the wages in full. Gabigol is already the top scorer in Brasilian Serie A, another season there will not improve his market value. But even a half decent season with a Spanish or Italian club would have got his market value sky rocketing.

    Unless we are missing something and Flamengo will do us a favour soon, I am not sure how our guys negotiated this shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenine View Post
    That is a spectacularly bad deal from an Inter point of view. Even if there were work permit issues with England clubs, IMO a loan deal in Spain/Italy would have been a much better solution even if the small club does not pay the wages in full. Gabigol is already the top scorer in Brasilian Serie A, another season there will not improve his market value. But even a half decent season with a Spanish or Italian club would have got his market value sky rocketing.

    Unless we are missing something and Flamengo will do us a favour soon, I am not sure how our guys negotiated this shite.
    This is the good scenario. But what if we had a repeat of Benfica and he failed in Europe for the third time? In this case, no team would be willing to offer anything close to his book value next summer. A loan in Brazil over a loan in Europe is risk averse. At least now we can hope that a European club may get deceived by his performances in Brazil and make a decent offer for him in the summer. I agree that the terms of the deal are terrible though. I can understand Flamengo paying only half of his salary if we cut his loan short but Flamengo getting a 5% of a possible sale in June is plain ridiculous.

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    He uploaded a video of himself on Instagram where he's playing PES. He selects Flamengo and he is in the Flamengo team in the game.












    *also says in his post "from today I am a player of Flamengo"
    **I move away from the mic to breathe in

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    He uploaded a video of himself on Instagram where he's playing PES. He selects Flamengo and he is in the Flamengo team in the game.












    *also says in his post "from today I am a player of Flamengo"

    It's so mature of him to choose Inter's sponsor and not Fifa.

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