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    Quote Originally Posted by Toninu View Post
    Things are not so binary, changing manager results in having to start from scratch again which could send us back a couple of years. Let a manager finish his cycle and then switch when you see that the team has stopped growing.
    This is not a rule! You don't need to star from scratch neither sent you back a couple of years! And how ling is a cycle for you! 3 years, 5years!
    Actually after 2 years you can decide if the team made enough progress or the coach is capable enough to reach your objectives!
    Spalletti had his 2 years and I was expecting more from him! If Sarri, Mou or Conte are available (depend of their demands also) we should pull the trigger!
    Or if Marotta believe that some coach from a lesser tier team can take us further!

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    by the way, whoever our coach will be, it's not like there is much to salvage of this team. i'd say 4-5 starters and 4-5 benchers. even our gameplan, it doesn't seem something to build on.

    sure a coach who plays 4-2-3-1 like mourinho would have it a bit easier at the beginning. that would be like saving two months of work maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrei View Post
    This is not a rule! You don't need to star from scratch neither sent you back a couple of years! And how ling is a cycle for you! 3 years, 5years!
    Actually after 2 years you can decide if the team made enough progress or the coach is capable enough to reach your objectives!
    Spalletti had his 2 years and I was expecting more from him! If Sarri, Mou or Conte are available (depend of their demands also) we should pull the trigger!
    Or if Marotta believe that some coach from a lesser tier team can take us further!
    I know it isn't a rule because I've seen us throw the everything out the window each season to start fresh and never see any progress, that's why I believe that changing managers shouldnt be a top priority.

    I think being realistic and looking at the inherent flaws in the team (no midfield) I think Spalletti did well but if we were to change him I would go for a coach who plays a similar style at least to continue building from the back and pressing high, I think Mourinho can do that since he likes to adapt his teams to bring the best out of them (he spent a year playing 4312 that we had under Mancini).
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    Hiring Sarri would require the club to 360 everything. Just look at Chelsea. A year later and their still not playing sarri ball. Sarri would need our complete trust and faith. Not sure I'm ready to give that to a manager who hasn't won anything in his career (yet). Big fan of his football just not here.
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    It is understandable that everyone love attacking football. But attacking without giving coach enough patience is the recipe of failure. And let's be honest, Inter (+fans in general) don't have the latter part.

    The best attacking coach in Serie A atm, Gasperini, was given what? Three rounds. He succeeds with his current Atalanta, crushing teams with ease but don't forget why they are still behind us. They had very poor start at the beginning of the season too. But that's how it works. Attacking gameplay is a mess at first, then takes time (and suffering) to capitalize. Similar to Klopp or Sarri.

    For "safe" coaches, such as Allegri or Conte, if you are expecting a "better gameplay", unfortunately, you would be disappointed again.

    The common conclusion of someone "Spalletti has reached his ceiling with us" doesn't make any sense either. What ceiling? He got 87 points with Roma, in (as claiming by some) a stronger league than now. So logically, his ceiling (if any) with us must be 87 points with better players. Well, let's be honest again, does our squad atm have the same quality as the 16-17 Roma? No,sorry. Please check that again.
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    I think the question Inter needs to ask is can Spalletti do better than this with a slightly improved side? I think he's earned a non Settlement Agreement mercato.

    I would say yes but I wanna win the Oscar for most optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toninu View Post
    I think the question Inter needs to ask is can Spalletti do better than this with a slightly improved side? I think he's earned a non Settlement Agreement mercato.

    I would say yes but I wanna win the Oscar for most optimistic.
    U will try...haha

    Spallo is staying because Suning don't want to fire him and give him his severance package, 20mil and hire another Cunte one and give him 10 mil salary a year for 3 years ... 50mil deal right there in total
    For them getting in to CL is enough at the moment... It's all about saving money with them in the first place, it's easy to see

    Damn... This wasn't very optimistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toninu View Post
    I think the question Inter needs to ask is can Spalletti do better than this with a slightly improved side? I think he's earned a non Settlement Agreement mercato.

    I would say yes but I wanna win the Oscar for most optimistic.
    Problem with that is that our weakest department (midfield) was basically built by him. And it does not help that the only capable player we have in mid is the guy that spallo did not sign. I mean of our starting midfield spallo signed Vecino and Radja and they are both not working out thus far and have not helped to alleviate our problems in midfield.
    Even if we re not talking just about our starting mid just look at the players he brought in in midfield to solve our problem, imho only borja has the right characteristics but is just past it.

    I m just not convinced that if spallo gets to choose that we end up with a 50 mio version of vecino who in the end wont help us improve our playing style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJM View Post
    U will try...haha

    Spallo is staying because Suning don't want to fire him and give him his severance package, 20mil and hire another Cunte one and give him 10 mil salary a year for 3 years ... 50mil deal right there in total
    For them getting in to CL is enough at the moment... It's all about saving money with them in the first place, it's easy to see

    Damn... This wasn't very optimistic

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    I wouldn't blame Suning for that. In their first season in Inter, they spent nearly 100m for Cuntdreva, JM and Barbarosa. The result was a total failure.
    At this moment CL participation = stability and Inter needs stability before to make the next step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adriano@10 View Post
    Problem with that is that our weakest department (midfield) was basically built by him. And it does not help that the only capable player we have in mid is the guy that spallo did not sign. I mean of our starting midfield spallo signed Vecino and Radja and they are both not working out thus far and have not helped to alleviate our problems in midfield.
    Even if we re not talking just about our starting mid just look at the players he brought in in midfield to solve our problem, imho only borja has the right characteristics but is just past it.

    I m just not convinced that if spallo gets to choose that we end up with a 50 mio version of vecino who in the end wont help us improve our playing style.
    It was indeed built by him, but built within extremely tight financial parameters and mostly with the objective of a top 4 finish in mind, no higher. He and Ausilio could certainly have done a better job in that area, but to suggest that he had whatever midfielder wanted is wrong. Also, you can talk about our only capable midfielder being someone not signed by Spalletti - but under which manager did that player suddenly become capable due to a smart positional shift?

    Are there better managers out there than Spalletti? Sure. Is he so far off the top level that we should spend a shitload of our cash that could be spent on upgrading our squad just to get rid of them? I really don't think so. Football analysts have looked at the affect of managers on teams, and it's nowhere near as important as players. An incompetent manager can certainly ruin a team, but Spalletti is no incompetent. Let's give him a top level squad, which he's never really had before, and see what he does with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGDella View Post
    It was indeed built by him, but built within extremely tight financial parameters and mostly with the objective of a top 4 finish in mind, no higher. He and Ausilio could certainly have done a better job in that area, but to suggest that he had whatever midfielder wanted is wrong. Also, you can talk about our only capable midfielder being someone not signed by Spalletti - but under which manager did that player suddenly become capable due to a smart positional shift?
    Again i m not saying it s a must reason to fire him but it is a concern for me. While Brozo found his best position under spallo it s a bit strange that according to spallo him selfe it was ausillio who told him that he should move brozo back so i wont give him too much credit for that.
    While i see that they were operating within a budget in both transfer windows it was clear that what we lack most is a midfielder with good technique and even more importantly with great vision and good passing and we got vecino radja and borja? I mean borja kind of fits the bill but as i said is past it and we should have realized this after last season. Problem is neither Vacino nor Radja fit the bill in terms of characteristics that we needed to add to our midfield jet we spent 60 mio on them!! And i m convinced that we could have gotten a much more needed player than those two for 60 mio. My point being is what guarantees us that if spallo gets a big budget who guarantees us that he s not simply going after a 60 mio version of Vecino? Which would be an upgrade to what we currently have but we d still be lacking.

    Quote Originally Posted by TGDella View Post
    Are there better managers out there than Spalletti? Sure. Is he so far off the top level that we should spend a shitload of our cash that could be spent on upgrading our squad just to get rid of them? I really don't think so. Football analysts have looked at the affect of managers on teams, and it's nowhere near as important as players. An incompetent manager can certainly ruin a team, but Spalletti is no incompetent. Let's give him a top level squad, which he's never really had before, and see what he does with it.
    Cant read the article so it s hard to judge, also the 20 mio are hardly that much like how much would we have to spend to upgrade from vecino to a WC midfielder probably like 40/60mio just in transfer sum plus the higher salary of the player.
    To upgrade the coach we d have to pay 20 mio plus the difference in salary so significantly less.

    Also i would like to see this analysis done with expenditure on coaches vs expenditure for players what brings you more. I mean real for years went without winning shit despite spending a shit ton players. Chelsea spent a ton already when ranieri was there but mou took them to glory.
    Let me say it like this i can think of way more expensive squads that went without winning shit for years then i can think of expensive/great managers that went for years without winning shit.

    I ll say what i ve been saying for some time do we have to fire spallo no, but we have to check our possibilities if mou or any other wc coach is ready to come for reasonable salary i would more than happily wast 20 on firing spallo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGDella View Post
    It was indeed built by him, but built within extremely tight financial parameters and mostly with the objective of a top 4 finish in mind, no higher. He and Ausilio could certainly have done a better job in that area, but to suggest that he had whatever midfielder wanted is wrong. Also, you can talk about our only capable midfielder being someone not signed by Spalletti - but under which manager did that player suddenly become capable due to a smart positional shift?

    Are there better managers out there than Spalletti? Sure. Is he so far off the top level that we should spend a shitload of our cash that could be spent on upgrading our squad just to get rid of them? I really don't think so. Football analysts have looked at the affect of managers on teams, and it's nowhere near as important as players. An incompetent manager can certainly ruin a team, but Spalletti is no incompetent. Let's give him a top level squad, which he's never really had before, and see what he does with it.
    Fuck!!! I cannot read the article! Anyway is not the first article who pointed out the importance of the manager!
    I said it and I was not the only one here! The team must be made by the management not by the coach. Of course the coach need to have an input (he needs a player with some characteristic or he can refuse a player) but the burden of this tusk must be on management.

    As good example is Roma of Spalletti. He was only for one year and half coach there. The team was built by Sabatini (under the same SA/FFP we are moaning about). I believe the only new player was Paredes, back from the loan at Empoli.
    But for that we need to have someone capable to build a team. Sabatini is up for the task. But we fucked it up, in our retarded tradition. Hopefully we let Marotta do his things and the retarded not interfere.

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    It all depends on what you guys expect/want from next season because at the minute it's just looking like a 3rd/2nd place finish. Coppa Italia performances have been dreadful so far and I'm not sure if we can win it.

    Champions league wise I guess we could at least make it to round of 16, quarter final is a bit of a stretch but it depends on the draw. And I doubt we could win the Europa league either.

    So it's shaping up like the 19/20 season will be another one with no silverware.


    The question is "then what?" We hire a new manager for the 20/21 season but they're going to at least need a season to settle into the team and then maybe we could win something in the 21/22 season.
    I'd rather we get a manager now that has potential to win and we could hope to win something by the 20/21 season instead. I'm not sure what we gain by just being mediocre for one more season.
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    Next season in CL we are still pot4, so the group stage wouldn't be any easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForzaNerazzurro View Post
    It all depends on what you guys expect/want from next season because at the minute it's just looking like a 3rd/2nd place finish. Coppa Italia performances have been dreadful so far and I'm not sure if we can win it.

    Champions league wise I guess we could at least make it to round of 16, quarter final is a bit of a stretch but it depends on the draw. And I doubt we could win the Europa league either.

    So it's shaping up like the 19/20 season will be another one with no silverware.


    The question is "then what?" We hire a new manager for the 20/21 season but they're going to at least need a season to settle into the team and then maybe we could win something in the 21/22 season.
    I'd rather we get a manager now that has potential to win and we could hope to win something by the 20/21 season instead. I'm not sure what we gain by just being mediocre for one more season.
    I really dont care about what place we finish in as long as we re top 4!!

    What i want to see most is a team that plays football!! And not fucking 11 strangers that happen to be football players but cant seem to struck 3 passes together most of the time.

    I wanna see a team that has a clear game plan and players that buy into that fucken plan (think Mou) wether it s defensive or offensive i dont give two shits as long as it gets us results and we play watchable football.

    Last but not least i finally want to see a team that has clearly improved from the last couple of seasons and that is moving forward, the improvement we ve seen in the last 8 years is just fucken hilarious our main problems are still the same since the day motta and sneijder left.
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    I would want Mou back and some top signings but I don't believe that will happen...so keep Spallo and do the same shit as we are doing now...getting in to CL so we have some constant for once in this club,maybe buy slightly better midfielders if that isn't to much to ask...as Suning won't do a PSG or City anyway.
    Conte and Allegri are not so much better than Spallo IF they don't have the clearly better side than the other teams. Maybe Conte could challenge Rube but...nah,difficult,we are not in England where teams are actually equal...in Italy some teams are more equal than others
    In Italy for example a Leicester can't happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by varmin View Post
    I wouldn't blame Suning for that. In their first season in Inter, they spent nearly 100m for Cuntdreva, JM and Barbarosa. The result was a total failure.
    At this moment CL participation = stability and Inter needs stability before to make the next step.
    They waste money and its us fans that have to suffer for it

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    The reason i was excited we got him in the first place was the opportunity for us to play football i could enjoy and have him implement a good midfield, one of his strengths at his teams.

    Instead he wasted 50 million on two players i absolutely detested, lost us one of our most promising youth players to get one of them and continued to implement the exact same tactics as the last 23597540875 coaches since Leonardo
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    Per Spalletti arrivata una prima richiesta di informazioni dal Milan, poi ha un’offerta per la panchina del Siviglia.

    Vorrebbe restare all’Inter

    Lui tranquillo e pensa a questo finale di stagione

    Will be funny to see Spallo working at Bbilan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delicate View Post
    Per Spalletti arrivata una prima richiesta di informazioni dal Milan, poi ha un’offerta per la panchina del Siviglia.

    Vorrebbe restare all’Inter

    Lui tranquillo e pensa a questo finale di stagione

    Will be funny to see Spallo working at Bbilan.
    a rough translation (by the way: source?):

    - bbilan have kind of tasted the water for spalletti;

    - sevilla have offered to spalletti the coach's job;

    - he would rather stay at Inter. Anyways, he's focused on this final part of the season.
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