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    No one is expecting shooting down this rumor, because everyone knows that Lautaro wants to go to Barcelona. What was the point of pointing out this non-existent shooting down?

    I hope and actually believe this management won't be blackmailed by the players' wishes. They surely want to sell unhappy player but on their terms and the terms seems to be close to the release clause price. I believe it will be hard for Barcelona to come up with even 80m€ cash offer and then they would have to add an important player (I don't even know who could it be) to the mix. They need to sell Coutinho for a good price, probably few other players too if and when Coutinho won't fetch good return, to make capital gains and slice the wages.

    edit. I agree that the compromise is possible, but it has to look good for Inter, otherwise Ausilio would be eating his words. So it would have to be an important player + cash lesser than 110m€. Other aspect is who this important player is who is wanted by Inter and is willing to downgrade his club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamen View Post
    well, Ousmane Dembele wanted to force his transfer to Barcelona and even refused to train, but Barca still paid 140 mln for him. Everyone knows that Bartomeu is a moron, so it's just matter of time and Inter has to wait for right offer.
    €105M, 42M were in contingency add ons based on appearances - up until now Dortmund have only seen 10M of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCBarca View Post
    €105M, 42M were in contingency add ons based on appearances - up until now Dortmund have only seen 10M of that
    Don't know for sure but I presume Dembele has not been anywhere close to that 105M worth fee either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeCordoba View Post
    No one is expecting shooting down this rumor, because everyone knows that Lautaro wants to go to Barcelona. What was the point of pointing out this non-existent shooting down?

    I hope and actually believe this management won't be blackmailed by the players' wishes. They surely want to sell unhappy player but on their terms and the terms seems to be close to the release clause price. I believe it will be hard for Barcelona to come up with even 80m€ cash offer and then they would have to add an important player (I don't even know who could it be) to the mix. They need to sell Coutinho for a good price, probably few other players too if and when Coutinho won't fetch good return, to make capital gains and slice the wages.

    edit. I agree that the compromise is possible, but it has to look good for Inter, otherwise Ausilio would be eating his words. So it would have to be an important player + cash lesser than 110m€. Other aspect is who this important player is who is wanted by Inter and is willing to downgrade his club?
    I believe leverage tilts in favor of player when they make it clear they want a move and agreement is already in place - then it's merely a question of what you are willing to put up with in terms of an unhappy star player. I think Moratti already spoke to that specifically

    Sure, Inter could take the PSG approach but then you also make all future players carefully consider signing a contract at Inter going forward for fear of being locked down in a golden cage. Should be reasonable in the end, the terms - certainly for Inter who paid 23M from Racing 2 years ago. and also considering the COVID market

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRR26 View Post
    Don't know for sure but I presume Dembele has not been anywhere close to that 105M worth fee either.
    On potential, yes I would say but no question it's been a massive failure - is he truly injury prone or simply a poor professional who has to get it together. I know I am done with the player so would be happy to see him gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCBarca View Post
    I believe leverage tilts in favor of player when they make it clear they want a move and agreement is already in place - then it's merely a question of what you are willing to put up with in terms of an unhappy star player. I think Moratti already spoke to that specifically

    Sure, Inter could take the PSG approach but then you also make all future players carefully consider signing a contract at Inter going forward for fear of being locked down in a golden cage. Should be reasonable in the end, the terms - certainly for Inter who paid 23M from Racing 2 years ago. and also considering the COVID market



    We shouldn't be bullied in to selling him for a discount at this point. We can keep him for two more years and he'll probably be worth as much as he is in this market. Us buying him for 23 million and it being a post-covid market doesn't matter at all. Your entitlement of our player is really bugging me.

    Inter should make a statement. We should start telling our star players they can't leave, because we want to win and make this a club of stature again. The Moratti-Era is for and long gone. We must convince our players that we're a club who are going to compete at top level again. We can't keep that loser mentality forever. Us making a couple good signings and competing for the Scudetto next year can change his point of view. Either come to our terms ur forget about him for now. I still predict the downfall of this Barcelona, and the appeal of joining them in two years won't be as big as it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCBarca View Post
    Sure, Inter could take the PSG approach but then you also make all future players carefully consider signing a contract at Inter going forward for fear of being locked down in a golden cage. Should be reasonable in the end, the terms - certainly for Inter who paid 23M from Racing 2 years ago. and also considering the COVID market
    We have no fuckin clue what's going on there. For all we know it could be the same case as with Dzeko who 1 day looked like certain to leave by everybody, and the next day he had a fuckin grin on his face when signing new contract like he just made his dream come true. Mertens was the same thing.

    It seems like barca fans were living the golden years for past 10 years, but the recent years, especially the money in PSG and man city showed that the balance is not tilted to their favour completely.

    It's very possible this deal will come through, but it's a long fucking way until it can happen and Inter does not have a player who is just dying to leave. Lukaku who was less grateful to man utd did not do anything to hinder on those negotiations between us and man utd.

    Inter is the first club who brought Lautaro to Europe and we believed in him completely. He also never made an appearance as being a complete douche like icardi was (at least till now) so I really, really doubt he would be angry at Inter not selling him. Disappointed, yes, but not angry. He is an investment to the club and I'm sure he understands that we have to be happy with this deal too if it's about to go through.

    If barca will not find the money, either to trigger the release clause, or make a very good offer adding some players we'd like, this deal will not go through imo. And that assumes Lautaro does not want to stay at Inter, i.e. it's not just an agent tactic to get as best new contract as possible which is very likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    We have no fuckin clue what's going on there. For all we know it could be the same case as with Dzeko who 1 day looked like certain to leave by everybody, and the next day he had a fuckin grin on his face when signing new contract like he just made his dream come true. Mertens was the same thing.
    Of course that is possible, him & his agent have said nothing so absolutely he may have zero intention to leave and is happy to let this percolate and let others sweeten their next contract. I have only commented that it would appear that the player has only one goal atm, to transfer to Barca to play alongside Messi.



    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    Inter is the first club who brought Lautaro to Europe and we believed in him completely. He also never made an appearance as being a complete douche like icardi was (at least till now) so I really, really doubt he would be angry at Inter not selling him. Disappointed, yes, but not angry. He is an investment to the club and I'm sure he understands that we have to be happy with this deal too if it's about to go through.
    He seems far more level headed than Icardi, no one is suggesting they are similar in their approach - just that clubs don't typically keep a star player who wants to leave. Moreover, Inter brought him over from Racing but he already had a deal sewn up with Atletico prior to that and he backed out. That is to say, it isn't simply a question of Inter having faith in the player, many clubs did - he just wasn't ready to make the leap


    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    If barca will not find the money, either to trigger the release clause, or make a very good offer adding some players we'd like, this deal will not go through imo. And that assumes Lautaro does not want to stay at Inter, i.e. it's not just an agent tactic to get as best new contract as possible which is very likely.
    I see no scenario where the 110M clause is used, either in full or installments - it'll be a player + cash deal IMHO. Of course, as you correctly point out, could all be a negotiating tactic to get the best deal possible from Inter but very likely? I doubt very much you truly believe that

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    What dembele and coutinho did to their former clubs in order to force the move to barca is worrying me in this saga.

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    Like said multiple times, Inter have the leverage here. 3 years contract left. How can he force the move? Is he going to sulk? Refuses to train? Wouldn't be wise at all for his career. I don't see Marotta and Ausilio being weak, Inter don't have financial pressure to accept less than what the clause says.

    And like Luka said, when the management reiterates to Lautaro's agent that we have no intention to let you go for anything less than the clause (be it cash or cash+player), that the club is targeting big trophies and great success and plan to have you part of it, he might understand this Barcelona thing is not happening in their terms. There are numerous cases in the past when players are not moved because terms weren't agreed. Coutinho being the prime example, Perisic being another one. Even Cristiano Ronaldo had to stay to United for one year before he got his move. When the club is big enough, moves aren't forced unless there are some circumstances against them like contract status or something else with the player. This is not the case with Lautaro so far.

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    All that's left really is for Lautaro to demand a transfer. I give him kudos for not interfering in these negotiations. Multiple sources say he won't force Inter's hand, so we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satubito View Post
    All that's left really is for Lautaro to demand a transfer. I give him kudos for not interfering in these negotiations. Multiple sources say he won't force Inter's hand, so we'll see.
    Yes this is the case so far. But we need to remember there's two to three months left this season. When the season finishes and the transfer market opens, that might change. Specially if the move doesn't seem to go forward. Then we really see how tough Marotta and Ausilio are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeCordoba View Post
    Yes this is the case so far. But we need to remember there's two to three months left this season. When the season finishes and the transfer market opens, that might change. Specially if the move doesn't seem to go forward. Then we really see how tough Marotta and Ausilio are.
    If he finishes the season, and doesn't sign his supposed extension with us, safe to say that he will most likely be gone when the market opens. Will he get the 12 M Barca are offering? No. Test where his loyalty lies.
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    I don't care about the loyalty. That's just BS these days. Specially that Lautaro has been at Inter for two years at that time. It's about the negotiation position. If it looks bad for Lautaro (can't get the move), he might have to pick the second favourite option and sign the extension. Since his salary is so low, he needs that new contract. He doesn't want to play reluctantly with 1.5m€ base salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeCordoba View Post
    I don't care about the loyalty. That's just BS these days. Specially that Lautaro has been at Inter for two years at that time. It's about the negotiation position. If it looks bad for Lautaro (can't get the move), he might have to pick the second favourite option and sign the extension. Since his salary is so low, he needs that new contract. He doesn't want to play reluctantly with 1.5m€ base salary.
    Loyalty is overrated these days, most players play to get as much money and trophies as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brakbrak View Post
    Loyalty is overrated these days, most players play to get as much money and trophies as possible.
    Like any sensible employee at any company (promotions instead of trophies of course)

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    Real Madrid Rival Barcelona In Interest In Inter’s Lautaro Martinez

    Real Madrid are to rival Barcelona for Inter striker Lautaro Martinez according to a report from Italian broadcaster Sky Sport Italia, which was aired a short time ago.

    Los Blancos have developed a strong interest in signing the 22-year-old striker and are in a much more healthy financial state compared to Barcelona, who have been courting the Argentine national team forward for some time now.

    Real Madrid are looking to bring in a striker who can alternate with Karim Benzema having been left unimpressed by the performances of Luka Jovic and Mariano Diaz.

    Barcelona still remain the favourites to sign the former Racing Club player, who Inter are insistent they will only allow to leave if his €111 million release clause is triggered.

    The report also goes on to explain that Inter have two conditions that must be met before agreeing to let the player go. The first is that they receive a satisfactory offer and the second is that they have a replacement for him lined up.

    This season Lautaro has made 31 appearances across all competitions to date, in which he has scored 16 goals and provided four assists for his teammates.
    It won't happen but it would be so hilarious if Lautaro ended up at Real after all this talk about Lautaro from Barcelona.
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    The question is: does he only want to go to Barca to play with Messi, or is also RM a real option for him.
    I don't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    Inter is the first club who brought Lautaro to Europe and we believed in him completely. He also never made an appearance as being a complete douche like icardi was (at least till now) so I really, really doubt he would be angry at Inter not selling him. Disappointed, yes, but not angry. He is an investment to the club and I'm sure he understands that we have to be happy with this deal too if it's about to go through.

    If barca will not find the money, either to trigger the release clause, or make a very good offer adding some players we'd like, this deal will not go through imo. And that assumes Lautaro does not want to stay at Inter, i.e. it's not just an agent tactic to get as best new contract as possible which is very likely.
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    Roma 'turned down Lautaro' in 2018
    Former Roma director Monchi ‘turned down’ the chance to sign Lautaro Martinez from Racing Club in January 2018 for €8m, revealed an agent.

    The striker eventually joined Inter for €25m in July that year, and is now part of a bidding war with Barcelona, Manchester United, Chelsea and Real Madrid at €111m.

    “I had offered Lautaro Martinez to Roma in January 2018 for €8m,” agent and intermediary Luis Ruzzi told Tuttomercatoweb.

    “That was the release clause that Racing had at that moment, but the Giallorossi didn’t take it up. There were also talks with Atletico Madrid that were important, but didn’t turn into anything concrete.

    “On January 20, the Racing President changed the clause, raising it to €20m, and then Inter did the rest.”

    It’s not entirely new for Roma to have rejected future star strikers, as Sabino Nelo had also told the Corriere dello Sport about Erling Haaland.

    “I proposed Haaland to Monchi two years ago and he cost €4m, but the club decided against it and he went to RB Salzburg.”
    Nobody said Lautaro has to leave this year, so we are in a comfortable position. If Barca are beggars this year, they can have another full year to come up with the money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokrates View Post
    The question is: does he only want to go to Barca to play with Messi, or is also RM a real option for him.
    I don't know
    So far nothing points Lautaro wanting anything else than Barcelona. Though if it's not Barcelona, pretty sure he's happy to stay given he's handed a fair contract.

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