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    We should show these stats where Gaglia is our 4th contributor to other clubs and sell him for 20-25 million.

    Btw you know I like your work Bluenine, but maybe Sanchez with his 8 assists compared to Gaglia's 2 should surpass him on that list?

    It's kinda deceiving only because he scored one goal less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glass box View Post
    We should show these stats where Gaglia is our 4th contributor to other clubs and sell him for 20-25 million.

    Btw you know I like your work Bluenine, but maybe Sanchez with his 8 assists compared to Gaglia's 2 should surpass him on that list?

    It's kinda deceiving only because he scored one goal less.
    Its just easier to have fixed rules (like first sort with goals, then with assists) than to use judgement. Maybe next season I can award points fantasy style (5 for goal, 3 for assist or key contribution) and rank them based on points. That shouldn't be too difficult.

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    PS: Added Games Played to the table, as per Brehme's request. But it doesn't give an accurate picture. For eg: Lukaku has played 3.5 times more minutes than Sanchez, but only 1.7 times more games. End of the season, I will add the minutes played, that will give a more accurate picture.


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    Do players actually get assists for winning penalties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdude View Post
    Do players actually get assists for winning penalties?
    They do in the premier league, I don't know about Serie A though. It makes sense that they should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdude View Post
    Do players actually get assists for winning penalties?
    No they don't. But I am counting these as assists just to give credit to a player who wins a penalty. But I promise that next season I will record these separately as "key contributions", just for you purists out there.

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    Bluenine is a beast.

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    Brilliant job indeed. Assists and key contributions could be separately to have the official stats but also the unofficial contributions. Though how do you consider the key contribution would be then? Second assist too in some cases? I think it might be a slippery slope. Or just assist for own goals etc.

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    If you want to separate games played from actual game time without having to count up the minutes you could always do it FM style and have game started and games entered as sub.

    So a player with 30 starts and 10 sub appearances would read 30 (10).

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    Yeah that sounds like a smart & simple way to do it and it provides a better picture of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeCordoba View Post
    Brilliant job indeed. Assists and key contributions could be separately to have the official stats but also the unofficial contributions. Though how do you consider the key contribution would be then? Second assist too in some cases? I think it might be a slippery slope. Or just assist for own goals etc.
    Thanks mate. Thinking about it, we can define KC a bit more. The general principle being to only award KC to someone whose contribution to the goal was as much as if not more than a typical assist. It makes sense to include a "second assist" specially in cases where the player providing the through pass does not get an assist. Also a player can only get 1 of the three (goal, or assist or KC) for a particular goal - no double counting. That way at the end of the season we can see how many goals did each player significantly contribute towards. Thats the whole point. Does that makes sense? Open to any suggestions on this.

    Like you said, it may still be a bit of a slippery slope, I guess I will have to use my judgement. I am sure there will be disagreements and debate on KC, but thats never a bad thing.
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    The numbers need fixing. Sanchez 4th, De Vrij 5th, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenine View Post
    Thanks mate. Thinking about it, we can define KC a bit more. The general principle being to only award KC to someone whose contribution to the goal was as much as if not more than a typical assist. It makes sense to include a "second assist" specially in cases where the player providing the through pass does not get an assist. Also a player can only get 1 of the three (goal, or assist or KC) for a particular goal - no double counting. That way at the end of the season we can see how many goals did each player significantly contribute towards. Thats the whole point. Does that makes sense? Open to any suggestions on this.

    Like you said, it may still be a bit of a slippery slope, I guess I will have to use my judgement. I am sure there will be disagreements and debate on KC, but thats never a bad thing.
    Yes exactly, that was my thought too. I just feels it's a slippery slope where key contributions are attributed to forum/your favourite player(s) more easily than some shitter everyone hates

    Well I guess it's still worth it. As an example I'd say Skriniar earning a penalty against Sassuolo is not considered key contribution?

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    Come on Bluenine dope us with your stats update.

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    A bit more analysis including minutes played, minutes per goal, and minutes per goal contribution (g+a)

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    Now the same sheet ranked by "Minutes per goal contribution" ie how many minutes does it take for the player to score a goal or provide an assist. This is so different and tells a different story, and yet I am not surprised at all. This is the "end product" ranking of our players this season.


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    The Eriksen's goal deserves to be counted as assisted by Eriksen himself for that buildup prior the goal.

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