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    Please no more dying player signings. Valero and 9crap are enough reminders that this doesn't work.

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    why does Conte want to keep Vecino,when he sees him in training I'm sure he will change his mind,but then again he wants to keep Candreva so...urgh

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    Conte will probably take a liking to Vecino actually. Physical player with lots of stamina. I could see him starting entirely too many games yet again.



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    When we say Isco or James are not Conte players, it's more or less like saying Vecino is a Conte player

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    But also Barella is a Conte player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeCordoba View Post
    But also Barella is a Conte player.
    Wait till he benches him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palacio View Post
    Please no more dying player signings. Valero and 9crap are enough reminders that this doesn't work.
    Lucio, Pirlo, Milito, etc are enuf examples that it can work. Its not the age, its the player and the situation.

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    Is it enough? What’s the confidence interval?

    Lucio and Pirlo were signed next to nothing. Honestly if we signed Nainggolan for half the price, and Valero for nothing I would have had no qualms.

    But yeah Nainggolan was world class so we had to break the bank. Not to mention it was all within reasons he maintained his world class status quo because reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenine View Post
    Lucio, Pirlo, Milito, etc are enuf examples that it can work. Its not the age, its the player and the situation.

    These were all exceptional players. There is no way you can compare any of these legends with nainggolan or Valero. Milito for example got a major injury playing for Inter but Nainggolan was injured because he wasn't attending training sessions. And I agree that some players are ok to sign even when they are thirty. But seemed to be obcessed with 30 year olds and that's why it became a problem for many of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palacio View Post
    These were all exceptional players. There is no way you can compare any of these legends with nainggolan or Valero. Milito for example got a major injury playing for Inter but Nainggolan was injured because he wasn't attending training sessions. And I agree that some players are ok to sign even when they are thirty. But seemed to be obcessed with 30 year olds and that's why it became a problem for many of us.
    So there was never any talk bandied about in the last couple years that Nainggolan was one of the best midfielders in Serie A at the time? Because it's not clear to me where you're drawing your line of distinction there, exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by este19 View Post
    So there was never any talk bandied about in the last couple years that Nainggolan was one of the best midfielders in Serie A at the time? Because it's not clear to me where you're drawing your line of distinction there, exactly.
    Let me give an answer since I was always one of the most vocal against signing players over 30y and I always advocated that would be much better to invest in younger players.


    First of all, I don't apply this "rule" to CB`s. From experience and positioning they are able to compensate the physical decline. There are a lot of examples of excellent CB who were good even in their late thirties. Not only now with the advance medicine and recuperation but also in 80` and 90`(Baresi, Vierchowod). Mathaeus or de Rossi played as CB in their late stage of the career.

    With midfielder and forwards is tricky. Many of them are not world class anymore because of their physical condition. Players who are not overly dependent of their physical like Pirlo and Modric tend to last way longer than N9 or Vidal. The decline also doesn't have a rigid pattern (some decline slowly like Milito other pretty brutal like Batistuta or Rivaldo). There is not a rule which player and how fast or abrupt he will decline.

    Wallace is also right: Pirlo or Lucio cost nothing. It's much easier to take a risk. But N9 cost us nearly all the transfer budget last year! Huge difference!


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    Modric could outclass 90% of the midfielders in serie A, even in his age. For argument's sake, factor in the workhorses he'll have in Barella and Brozovic. Old = bad? Ma va -
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrei View Post
    Let me give an answer since I was always one of the most vocal against signing players over 30y and I always advocated that would be much better to invest in younger players.


    First of all, I don't apply this "rule" to CB`s. From experience and positioning they are able to compensate the physical decline. There are a lot of examples of excellent CB who were good even in their late thirties. Not only now with the advance medicine and recuperation but also in 80` and 90`(Baresi, Vierchowod). Mathaeus or de Rossi played as CB in their late stage of the career.

    With midfielder and forwards is tricky. Many of them are not world class anymore because of their physical condition. Players who are not overly dependent of their physical like Pirlo and Modric tend to last way longer than N9 or Vidal. The decline also doesn't have a rigid pattern (some decline slowly like Milito other pretty brutal like Batistuta or Rivaldo). There is not a rule which player and how fast or abrupt he will decline.

    Wallace is also right: Pirlo or Lucio cost nothing. It's much easier to take a risk. But N9 cost us nearly all the transfer budget last year! Huge difference!
    I don't think age matters as what important is the player personality and capability. Read about santi cazorla a bit on how he do a comeback which adriano could not do at age 27 (peak year). Not all players are the same. The issue most of the time is salary and price. Young players would learn from senior player experience and leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex de Large View Post
    When we say Isco or James are not Conte players, it's more or less like saying Vecino is a Conte player
    James only wants to play for Anchelotti. Def want him here especially as he just 40 million
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    Quote Originally Posted by crzdcolombian View Post
    James only wants to play for Anchelotti. Def want him here especially as he just 40 million
    James wants to play for a world class coach. Too bad we don't have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    James wants to play for a world class coach. Too bad we don't have one.
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    This season is unfortunately a 5 season setback. We were 1.5 mercato away from becoming a top team, now won't really have expectations of winning an important trophy until 2025.


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    As things stand currently Conte > Ancelotti. We need a drill sergeant and Conte is exactly that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitomins View Post
    1 Scudetto in more than 12 Serie A seasons....WORLD CLASS!
    I guess Mancini > Ancelotti too.

    P..S. Do we consider that Ancelotti shouldn't be accounted for seasons 2004-5 and 2005-6? Or if we do, shouldn't wr consider that they'd probably win those as well if the league wasn't tainted?
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