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    Georgios Vagiannidis

    OFFICIAL: Georgios Vagiannidis is going to join Inter on a 4-year contract on the 1st of July, 2020, so I thought he deserves his own player thread. This is meant to be moved once club decides his fate (Youth Teams > Players & Coaches / Loaned Players).

    His contract is expiring this summer, so it will be considered a "free transfer": Panathinaikos will only receive around €400.000 as a training bonus - compensation amount decided by world football’s governing body FIFA.]. Inter have beaten the competition from two other top European clubs such as Manchester City and Monaco. He will become the 5th Greek player to play for the Nerazzurri.

    Salary: will earn €300.000/year

    Inter Milan seem to have a lot of faith in Vagiannidis’ abilities, a fact that is evident by the high sell-out clause that they want to set on his contract with club – a clue that they expect him to be their starting right-back in the years to come. Vagiannidis will move to Milan as soon as possible and will not participate in his team’s play-off efforts for the Greek Super League.


    Name: Γεώργιος Βαγιαννίδης
    Born: September 12, 2001 (age 18 years), Athen, Greece
    Position: right wing-back
    Foot: right
    Player agent: Relatives
    Height: 1.82 m
    Weight: 68 kg
    Date joined: 2017 (Panathinaikos F.C.)
    Current teams: Panathinaikos F.C. (#57 / Defender), Greece national under-19 football team (Defender)



    Inter`s rumoured plans with him:
    Quote Originally Posted by DARi0 View Post
    GdS: Georgios Vagiannidis was convinced by the move to Milan due to the prospect of immediately being integrated into the first team.
    FcInterNews: Georgios Vagiannidis wouldn’t be integrated into the first team. Inter would like to sign him to either send him out on loan or put him into the Under-19 squad. The player hasn’t had too much first team experience yet and wouldn’t be ready for a quick move to a Serie A squad. Vagiannidis has made 17 appearances across all competitions so far this season, scoring five goals and providing one assist in that time.
    TuttoShit: Vagiannidis will be evaluated by coach Antonio Conte in the pre-season training camp. The player will be loaned out to a friendly club, which could be Hellas Verona, who the Nerazzurri have been in talks with for some time now regarding Marash Kumbulla. Vagiannidis could be included in that deal.
    vs Under-teams:


    vs First team:


    External scouting report:
    Vagiannidis is a side that has the best characteristics in running, shooting and good technique in speed. The scouts and coaches of the Panathinaikos youth team, where he grew up, underline his ability to push steadily, the ability to concentrate to shoot even with the weak foot (the left) and good defensive coverage.
    Greek scouting report provided by:
    Quote Originally Posted by brehme1989 View Post
    I am hyped about the kid but I've mostly seen him in crap competition (u21s) and not that many games. From people I know within the club they told me that he' was the next Seitaridis (Panathinaikos, Porto, Atletico Madrid) [the Euro 2004 right back and the next season he hit the bar in a cross he made, still having flashes of that. It was in the Adriano hatrick game iirc].

    I cannot judge him because he really stood out in the kids' leagues, which is often the case for many of these kids, but he really does have potential, especially going forward. And these young kids usually are energetic for 1-2 months with the first team but then they slowly fade. Hope he's not like that. It's mostly a mental issue.

    His contract runs out and his dad wanted him to get a guaranteed starting spot for next season and a very high salary given the situation of the club so they had this breakdown. I'm confident that he'd be starting next season but in this day and age, it's better for a kid to go to a club like Inter and gain exposure than stay in a bad league like the Greek one. If he's part of the first team in 2020-21, assuming he transfers, then I'll be pleasanlty surprised.

    Moving to Italy may help shape his mentality to become a better professional as most Greek starlets are self absorbed morons and they end up ruining their potential.
    I don't know if he can cope with a 3-5-2 system, but if he does come, he's probably moving to Serie B on a loan deal.

    Greek journalist Antonis Oikonomidis spoke exclusively on behalf of SempreInter.com, with a young fullback who loves LeBron James, who decides on visiting holiday destinations based on how quiet they are, and whose last book he read was written by Greek antique historian Herodotus.


    “Until I signed the contract, I was never sure” he begins, whilst we’re walking on the pitch he grew up playing on, near his home in Gerakas. At first it seemed and sounded unbelievable, but when I signed [the contract], when everything was sorted out, only then did I believe what had happened and I calmed down” he says about how he experienced the negotiating process with the Nerazzurri. This year, throughout the process of negotiating and searching for a new club, I had heard so much. About so many different teams being interested [in me], so I didn’t want to get too excited about Inter. Because I didn’t want to be disappointed if it didn’t work out or something would go wrong. So, I tried to stay grounded and very pragmatic from the first moment that Inter’s interest came to my knowledge and I waited calmly to see where it all would end up.”

    When did you first learn about Inter’s interest in you?
    “Recently, after the quarantine in Greece was lifted. I was initially informed about Inter’s interest by my agents. I was told from the very first moment that this interest was serious. And it was. So, without practically realizing it, I came to negotiate my transfer to a team like Inter.”

    Who have you spoken to at Inter during these negotiations?
    “I spoke only with Mr. Ausilio, before I signed. He analyzed everything to me regarding the project, the plan Inter has for me, what would be the best option for me. [He explained] I’d begin my time at Inter as a member of the first team and clarified that everything regarding my future would be made after a joint decision. Always a consultation with both sides and based on mutual understanding. He explained everything about the team to me, the accommodation. Everything that needed to be analyzed and explained he did. And that completely explanatory contact, that analytic approach, was one of the key factors for me to make my decision.”

    How long have you signed for? Is there a buy-out clause in the contract?
    “I have signed for four years and to be honest I don’t have a clue if a buy-out clause is included or not because, I’m not interested in things like that. And, yes, what I agreed to is to play for the first team. To attend the pre-season camp with the first team and from there on we will see.

    However, there can be no doubts as to what Vagiannidis’ personal goal and ambition with this move is. The youngster is adamant that he has come to Inter to fight for a place in the first team.
    “To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t even discuss leaving Panathinaikos’ first team, where I had an offer in my hands to renew my contract there. An offer which gave me a very important role in the first squad, in order to leave and go and play for a youth team. What I realized in my contacts with Inter’s officials, is that I am going to be part of the first team. I am going there to claim a spot in first team squad.

    Many of Europe’s top clubs were rumored in chasing the coveted youngster but his choice fell on Inter pretty quickly after the Nerazzurri became a viable option.
    “Monaco were very serious and at some point, and we were very close to a deal. Manchester City had indeed approached me, we had some discussions, it’s true” he points out when asked about City’s rumored interest.
    “LASK Linz were also very persistent and they showed that they really wanted me. In general, there was interest from many many teams. But either at some point – for various reasons – we did not move on to the final stage of the negotiations. Or we did not agree with a club about the project they presented.[We didn’t agree] on the project concerning my development so as to entice me more than, for example, what Panathinaikos offered for me to stay in Greece. But all the thoughts, all the comparisons, whatever I considered an option, all of that vanished immediately after Inter showed up and showed me how serious their interest was. [For me] all the other clubs automatically disappeared. After that, there was simply no other thoughts, no ‘competition’, only Inter. Even after I knew about Inter’s proposal, I received enquiries by at least ten more clubs. But, as I told you, there was no debate anymore, there was nothing else to think about. In my mind, there was only Inter.”

    So what prompted this strong determination and desire to choose Inter above all these other clubs?
    “What I wanted was opportunities, playing time. To play and evolve. But when a team like Inter comes along, you think differently. The magnitude of such a club is enormous. The history, the background. Everything counts. And, naturally, the chance for a young player to be able to train daily, even if only training, along such great players, is huge. You cannot deny such a chance, you can’t say no to such a club.”

    Did you prefer a specific league? Did you follow the Serie A previously?
    “Everything depended on the project that would be offered to me and whether or not it would be good for my development and help me to improve. But, retrospectively, yes, Italy was my number 1 choice. I have been learning Italian for 1.5 years, long before Inter emerged. Of course, if a really good project came from another country, I wouldn’t say no, but certainly Italy was at the top of my list. Always [followed the Serie A], but even more so, especially lately, for obvious reasons. I like to watch football, especially at such a high level as the Serie A, but I really watch everything that involves football.”

    When asked to describe himself on the pitch, his strengths and weaknesses, the replies are as quick as they are concrete and to the point.
    “I’m a pure right wing back, in every and any formation. I’m a good offensive wing back. I need to improve my crossing, but I believe that I am good without the ball. I can move well on the pitch and know how to work nicely and effectively with my teammates. I need to improve defensively. But I’m sure that by coming to play football at Serie A, the home of tactical innovation and proper defensive functionality, I will surely improve. I’ll probably have to adapt physically to Serie A’s demands, but I don’t want to rush into things that will cause more trouble than do good. I am ready and willing to do anything [to succeed]. And I mean it. Whatever is asked of me, whatever is required in training, in preparation, in everyday life, [I’ll do] everything that is needed to succeed. I do not know how I will do it, but what I am sure of is that there is no way that I will not do what I have to do and what I am asked to do. And even more.”

    The youngster cannot stress this point enough, revealing that since signing the contract he has been preparing himself physically for the day he arrives at Inter.
    “My daily schedule now is adjusted in a way so that I can meet Inter’s demands when I join the team. I’m prepared for the whole package, I train five hours a day, I do whatever is needed to be ready and to properly prepare myself. Everything in my daily life is already fully adapted to Inter, I don’t think about anything of anything else.”

    Doesn’t the thought of leaving your home at such a young age, affect you?
    “I expect it to be difficult at the beginning, it’s normal I guess, especially for someone like me who is very attached to his family, really close [to my family]. And generally, I am a ‘stay at home guy’, a family guy. But I know that moving abroad, away from my family is something that I have to go through and I’m sure as time goes by it will only get better. I’ve been there [at Panathinaikos] for 10 years, since I was a little kid. Played for all the youth teams, and moved up to the first team last season. To be honest, I expected more opportunities this season, but I truly believe that everything, every experience, does some good in the end. Panathinaikos gave me a lot. The owner tried really hard to keep me there, but I had decided to leave as I knew that moving abroad would be the right step for my career.”



    His close ties to his childhood club, Panathinaikos are still there not just emotionally but literally, as his younger brother, Aimilios, plays for the U-15 team.
    “He’s a midfielder and extremely talented. I’m trying to advise him as much as possible. I attend his games, discuss with him about what he can do to improve, where he should work and evolve. He’s really good.”

    Let’s imagine that we will have this conversation again in 1 year. What would you like to tell me after your first season at Inter?
    “I would like to say that I am one of the two regular right backs in Inter’s first team squad.”

    Would you accept a back-up role?
    “No, but it’s something that I can accept in my first season [laughs]. Seriously speaking, the main thing that I’d like to be able to tell you then is that I feel like a better player, that I am a better player. That I would have improved every part of my game. Mentally, physically, tactically, everything. And I’m sure it will be like that because I will be among the best footballers in the world. You must improve when you’re in such an environment, in such conditions, in such company and for me, that’s the most important thing, improvement. Everything else will follow.”

    Do you have a favorite team outside of Greece? Who do you think is the best right back in the world?
    “From now it’s Inter, but before the Nerazzurri appeared in my life, it was Manchester United. And Borussia Dortmund’s Achraf Hakimi. For me, he’s the best right now.”

    Which famous player would you say your playing style is closest to?
    “With Joao Cancelo’s. In Greece everyone keeps telling me that I remind them of Giourkas Seitaridis. But I never saw him play.

    Have you thought anything about playing for the Greek National Team?
    “I’m not thinking about it yet, it hasn’t even crossed my mind. All I think about right now, is Inter.”

    You’re 19, you have to have some free time besides football. What do you do then?
    “I like reading, I love literature. But the last book I read was non-fiction. It was Herodotus’ ‘Novels and Jokes.’ Besides that, I love watching movies and going to the movies. The cinema is something I have truly missed going to during the lock down. I wanted to watch “Parasite”, but I couldn’t.

    Did you watch the Last Dance? Did you have any idea who Michael Jordan was and the impact he had on basketball?
    “Yes, I did [watch it]. Before the Last Dance, no, I was completely unaware [of his importance]. Watching the series I realized his greatness. Although, I must admit that I’m a huge Lebron fan.”

    Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi?
    “Cristiano Ronaldo.”

    You realize that eventually you’ll come against him on the pitch? And, what do you think? Will you ask for an autograph?
    “Of course [I have realized this] but absolutely not [ask him for an autograph]. At least, not during the match [laughs].”

    strikes me as an intelligent and determined young person, warm welcome and wish him all the best with Inter. Now feel free to hit that 'Thank' button
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    this guy expectations are a bit overwhelming. I think he is not aware of the gap between Greek league and Italian. I think loaning him to Serie B side which plays 3-5-2 would be the best decision for both parties.
    But on the other side, it's not suprising me that he believes he could be a better choice than Moses...

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    I don't know what Ausilio told him but he sounds too arrogant for my liking. Expecting to go from Greek youth league to Inter's first team in a matter of months. Having ambitions is a very good thing but having the feet on the ground is also important. I obviously wish him the best and I hope he will be strong enough in case things don't go the way he has imagined them.
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    I love his attitude personally. He sounds like a dedicated footballer with ambition. I wouldn’t want some loser kid who would be happy just to practice with Eriksen. In life you often get what you think you deserve and you’re willing to work for. I don’t want anyone coming here without this attitude tbh.

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    I read the interview last night. I do not think he is arrogant nor do I think he is conceited. He has exactly the right mentality required to try and adapt to a new team, league and life in a new country and makes a point of saying that he will do anything that is required and asked of him. I think his point about being a part of the first team shows what he is aiming for/his goal/aspirations. Perhaps the best part about Vagiannidis is that he appears to have the dedication, work ethic and lifestyle that is conducive to being a professional footballer. I would rather a young player state his goals and aims than be like Gabriel Barbosa who was all talk with little substance. Perhaps, what I really like is that Vagiannidis understands and values Inter. I love how he said that when Inter came in for him, every other club that made an offer for him faded into the background.

    Can I just ask, I read an article that stated he will be the fifth Greek player to arrive at Inter. The only Greek players I remember playing for us are Lampros Choutos, Grigoris Georgatos and Yiorgos Karagounis. So it is my understanding that he will be the fourth player to play for Inter rather than the fifth. I have no recollection of any other Greek playing for Inter. Maybe Brehme can shed further light on this but it is my recollection that Georgatos was the first and Karagounis was the last.
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    Yes, that's the case. But Choutos was the last technically

    Vagiannidis is an amazing talent and he shows that he doesn't have the Georgatos mentality of feeling a small fish in a big pond and the guy literally left a potentially starting spot at Inter and CL chances just to sit at Glyfada drinking coffee. It never got to him that he'd do that all day in his retirement. Which is what he's doing now anyway

    I didn't know this side of this kid. I like his attitude and it reminds me of someone

    We tried to sign a goalkeeper in the early 50s called Pentzaropoulos.
    He played for Inter in several friendly games and was considered by our coach the definite starter. But his club, Panionios, refused to let him go so he spent the year as a reserve without eligibility to play. He was probably the best ever Greek GK. The Italian media was amazed by how good he was. He had to return to Greece, in bitter disappointment, and he was never the same again and retired soon after.

    Don't think he counts, but it'd be great from Inter's view to consider him part of the club's history. Even if officially he never was.

    Here he is on the left.


    We could have had a kid in Primavera from Greece. Definitely one from Cyprus recently so not sure if that's who they mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma View Post
    Can I just ask, I read an article that stated he will be the fifth Greek player to arrive at Inter. The only Greek players I remember playing for us are Lampros Choutos, Grigoris Georgatos and Yiorgos Karagounis. So it is my understanding that he will be the fourth player to play for Inter rather than the fifth. I have no recollection of any other Greek playing for Inter. Maybe Brehme can shed further light on this but it is my recollection that Georgatos was the first and Karagounis was the last.
    there is a polish website with Inter Milan's players database:
    https://intermediolan.com/1/klub/pilkarze
    it's quite good, because you can sort by nationality and check how many players from given country played in Inter. There is also information about number of caps, goals, position etc.

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    He is not signed for the primavera btw so shouldn't belong to Youth Teams thread

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    Brehme, is it true Georgatos returned to Greece from Italy and left a first team starting spot because he was unable to manage the homesickness?

    I love how the Panathinaikos jersey has the Greek flag on the front. Do all jerseys in Greece have the flag on the front?

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    It's more of the federation logo than the Greek flag, but not sure why others don't wear it.

    I don't really pay attention to this so perhaps they do. But officially it's not part of their jersey. Given how Panathinaikos has been vilified by the Federation since 1996 it's a bit odd seeing this lol.

    And yes, Georgatos wanted to go back to Greece because he didn't like the weather and the fact that he couldn't sit 5 hours a day for coffee on the seaside...
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    And yes, Georgatos wanted to go back to Greece because he didn't like the weather and the fact that he couldn't sit 5 hours a day for coffee on the seaside...
    Plain and simple: Malakas.

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    Loving the confidence, it doesn't sound arrogant or cocky, just the right balance. Hopefully the kid has what it takes. Defenders with that kind of grinta are rare.

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    His favorite right back is joining the team. How lucky for him!

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