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    New rules in Italian football?

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    Friday 11 November, 2005
    Inter may have to give their squad a complete overhaul this summer as CONI aim to introduce new protectionist regulations from next season.

    CONI, the governing body for sport in Italy, is currently discussing moves to reduce the number of foreign nationals permitted to play for Italian clubs.

    It is perceived that fewer Italian players are getting the chance to make the grade and ply their trade in Italy, as a result of the influx of foreign players, and so steps are being taken to ‘protect’ youth systems.

    CONI’s new directive stipulates revolutionary changes to the current system if enforced, as intended, from next season.

    Under the new regime, of 18 players - the first 11 and seven substitutes - in a match-day squad submitted to the referee, at least 50 per cent must be Italian or have come through the ranks at an Italian outfit.

    The squad of players at a club, meanwhile, must also consist of at least 50 per cent home-grown players.

    The new regulation will come as a shock to the system for numerous Serie A sides, many of whom look abroad for new recruits.

    Inter, in particular, will be seriously affected by the new ruling as they boast no fewer than 18 foreigners. Only five of Roberto Mancini’s men hail from Italy.

    Francesco Toldo, Marco Materazzi, Giuseppe Favalli, Paolo Orlandoni and Cristiano Zanetti are their Italians – even if only Materazzi and Favalli can be considered first-choice players.

    Critics of the proposals will say that clubs will flout the new laws by recruiting foreign players at a younger age, developing them at the expense of other Italians and sending them out to other clubs on loan.


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    We will concentrate on Italian footballers this summer I guess.Grosso,oddo or potenza,mesto,Cassano comes to my mind first.
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    I'm not even sure such a rule would be legal, you can't favourite Italians, it would simply be illegal. if the rule said that 50% have to be European then the rule would not break an EU regulation. but it says Italian and that is a clear violation of that regulation.

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    Like Mikkel, I don't believe that the rule will take place, at least not from the start of next season. I mean, come on! Just imagine your boss coming up to you and say, "I want you to triple the f*cking annual turnover by the end of the year!". It's too unrealistic and unreasonable. Unless of course there are 'the powers that be' who push for this rule because this will jeopardise their rivals much more than themselves.
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    If it indeed happens, then we truly are f*cked in the @ss and it will be a devastating thing that will cost us a few years to recover.


    Edit: Btw, I changed the topic's title since it's misleading because this rule has not been confirmed yet.

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    Hope it comes true, although like Han said it will penalise Inter...

    Don't say me, Tommi, Jake didn't warn you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love Inter!
    Hope it comes true, although like Han said it will penalise Inter...
    In other words, you couldn't care less about the jeopardy that Inter is gonna be in because of this rule just to satisfy your love for your fellow Italians?

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    Haha how did I know you would be the first to reply?

    I care very much so, but people should have thought about these kind of things earlier.

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    the problem is that Moggi is in controll of italian mercato, so for us it will be difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love Inter!
    Haha how did I know you would be the first to reply?
    Oh Fabio Einstein, of course you would have known! After all, me and Frisko have been stalking you for weeks already! We're scrutinizing your post and will rebut any point of view that you make in the forums! Call it an obsession, call it an idolization, we just can't help but do it.

    Oh, and Fabio, should anyone ever tell you that we replied to your posts immediately just because we happened to be online at the same time and disagree/agree to your point of view, don't believe them! You heard it from Han the Man himself. Yes, we are indeed stalking you.

    Quote Originally Posted by I Love Inter!
    I care very much so, but people should have thought about these kind of things earlier.
    Let me rephrase my question then, you would prefer to put Inter in jeopardy just to prove that you were smart and they were dumb because you thought of this scenario earlier?

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    Shock horror!

    Anyway, back on topic (if it's possible for you):

    You know I have long wanted more Italians to come to Inter and I have always been surprised that it hasn't happened. I think a great thing would be for this rule to begin from the 07/08 season, giving all teams more time to prepare and produce (youngsters). Is it a surprise your insult was long than your point??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handoyo
    Quote Originally Posted by I Love Inter!
    Haha how did I know you would be the first to reply?
    Oh Fabio Einstein, of course you would have known! After all, me and Frisko have been stalking you for weeks already! We're scrutinizing your post and will rebut any point of view that you make in the forums! Call it an obsession, call it an idolization, we just can't help but do it.

    Oh, and Fabio, should anyone ever tell you that we replied to your posts immediately just because we happened to be online at the same time and disagree/agree to your point of view, don't believe them! You heard it from Han the Man himself. Yes, we are indeed stalking you.

    Quote Originally Posted by I Love Inter!
    I care very much so, but people should have thought about these kind of things earlier.
    Let me rephrase my question then, you would prefer to put Inter in jeopardy just to prove that you were smart and they were dumb because you thought of this scenario earlier?
    Lol Han

    Yeah Fabio I bet you actually sit there and count the seconds it takes people to reply to topics. And when you don't know what to say, suddenly you want to 'go back on topic' You have this habit of feeling at the centre of attention eh? Must be a kid thing (to use one of your fav smileys).

    Anyway only you could be happy about such a rule when it would completely destroy us.

    This rule is basically just racist crap and it will never be approved, even if CONI did, a civil court would not allow it. No need to worry then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Channel4
    CONI, the governing body for sport in Italy, is currently discussing moves to reduce the number of foreign nationals permitted to play for Italian clubs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Channel4
    Inter, in particular, will be seriously affected by the new ruling as they boast no fewer than 18 foreigners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Channel4
    Critics of the proposals will say that clubs will flout the new laws by recruiting foreign players at a younger age, developing them at the expense of other Italians and sending them out to other clubs on loan.
    This is what has happened already, nothing new in there.

    Anywayz, my views havent changed since i wrote to italian player debate thread. It would be pointless to basically say same things in this thread. In that thread, there were so many good posts from a lot of us. A must read to all whom´s interested!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frisko
    This rule is basically just racist crap and it will never be approved...<snip>
    Never know Mr.Frisko, never know.

    Racist crap? How does this proposition from CONI differ from the rule we already have (meaning that we have that non-EU player rule (we can only sign one non EU player per year or something)).
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    It differs a great, immense deal, because EU citizens have the exact same rights no matter which country within the union they live in.
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    Racist Crap. LOLZ, its not Racism, if you want your country men to succeed more than foriegners .

    But 50% , MY ASS. I would have liked this rule, had it been something like 25% percent, but these guys want half of all the players in a club to be italians, That is pure crap. Its gonna make serieA much less intresting.

    I just done see this rule happening, this rule maybe disastarous for us, but its still not pleasing for Milan or Gobbi's. Milan have 9 italians in their squad of 23, so they will need 3 more according to this rule. Juve have 11 in their squad of 25, they will also need 2 more. U guys really think Milan would be willing to get 3 italian players in next year transfer winodow

    I wouldnt worry too much about it, this rule won't get enforced NEXT YEAR, its impossible. It has three main flaws.
    1. U just dont give a club 8 months to change their whole look, something which has been built over the past 5 years.
    2.With so few foriegners scudetto just won't remain, italian teams night even get much weaker in CL.
    3. Where the F-CKING HELL R CLUBS GOING TO FIND SO MANY ITALIAN PLAYERS???

    If wrose comes to wrose, I think they will give the clubs until 2007, and reduce the no. of italian compulsory to 25%. This will still affect us, but still we'll have time to deal with it. I personally would love seeing more italians at inter, its so odd, supporting all these gobbi & milan players, playing for Italy, and not having a single Inter player to support. .Face it guys, we really are bad for Italian football (k, I am ready for it ). If all the big clubs start following in our footsteps Italian National team will go to hell.
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    EU is such a racist towards non EU countries then.

    shahz_nerazzurri: I dont think it´s true that CONI demands that 50% of the players HAS TO be Italians. Channel4 just "may" have exaggerated their story a little.

    Still, to CONI. At least they try to save italian football!
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    If they want to improve the Italian youth system, they should do other things. The thing is that if a player from Ghana, Peru or Latvia lives in Italy or EU country for 5 years, he will become a citizen, and won't be considered foreign. So what's the point?

    I really can't think of a solution to improve the youth system. I think it has little to do with your own league, otherwise Brazil and Argentina wouldn't qualify to the WC.

    If Coni wants to take drastic measure to ensure it, then they should say that 50% of the players should be native Italians. They must be clear on that so that their aim won't be defeated.

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    I don't think this new rule would be implemented at the end of this season, if at all. If they are really implementing it, then they'd probably give the clubs a few years to get their squad together. But if they're really implementing it at the end of this season, then we're in some deep sh!t.
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    Speaking about the "warnings" that the clubs should have heeded, I personally don't recall them at all. Yes, there have been rumours & talks about such a rule being implemented by there was nothing firm & definite and thus they can't be classified as "warnings". What if Inter actually sold Adriano for Giampaolo Pazzini just because of this rule but in the end it didn't happen? It would turn out to be a harakiri move for the club.


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    I do not think that it is racist, rather a protective measure to ensure the quality of Italian youth to rise, and hence secure the future of the Italian national team.
    In all honesty, I am embracing this measure, but like most of you, this measure should not take place next season, but rather in a transitonal period.
    Like Fabio stated season 07/08, however I think it should be a bit later, like 09/10.
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    Laws are laws guys. No matter if your intentions are good, you can't just pretend they don't exist.

    The law says that every EU citizen has the same rights, including free movement between countries and working rights. CONI can not and will not ignore this and make new rules regardless.

    Surely things have changed in regard to players and big clubs. It's now much harder for young Italian players to find space in such clubs. Then again, look at the Gilardinos, Vieris, Inzaghis, they came out in small teams and were good enough to find space in the major clubs.

    Also, we don't have 6/7 top teams in serie A anymore, we have 3. I mean Udinese is a big club nowadays and freaking Sensini plays regularly. Young players still have a chance.

    In a world of football with focuses so much on money, where the CL has become such a big and vital competition, talking about changing these rules is just silly.

    And only UEFA could do it, surely CONI couldn't do such thing on their own.
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