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    Next season Messi will be Inter player.

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    I don't know what that says, but check this out,


    Moggi To Duck And Cover In Referee Scandal?

    The whiff of scandal can be sniffed back to the 5th of last month when the Italian Football Federation received a report from the Turin attorney general’s office – also submitted to the Rome attorney general’s office and UEFA, as published in the "Gazzetta dello sport". Said report alerted to the fact that wire taps had been placed on Moggi’s lines to unearth what could be match rigging.

    According to the first reports, Luciano Moggi, an Italian Federation VP (Inocenzo Mazzini) and Pierluigi Pairetto – the retired international ref turned referee selector for Serie A – have been exchanging more than recipes for Bracciola. This heady brew has been stewing for the past month and seems to have cooked up a tasty scandal after the respected ‘Corriere Della Sera’ published (alleged) transcripts of conversations held between the Juve Capo and what could be some willing allies in high places.

    The full list of iffy conversations runs to a jaw-dropping 100 pages of chat that is rich with implications that the Bianconeri boss has been using foul as well as fair play to ensure that the Old Lady is helped through the Italian league and shown a sparkling Scudetto. Explosive stuff, indeed, but before rival fans and incensed fair-play-followers’ heads start exploding in crimson apoplexy, it must be noted that the bulk apparently dates back to last season. So far.

    The case is being excavated by Turin deputy attorney general Raffaele Guariniello with the help of Gianfranco Colace and Sara Panelli. The conspicuous absent face from this list of potential shame is Pairetto’s colleague Paolo Bergamo, actually on the UEFA refereeing panel and – fortunately – not in any of the ‘friendly chitchats’. Keep your eyes peeled for a Goal.com full transcription of the words that may strangle, pluck, stuff, roast, slice and gobble a rich duck.


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    Ridiculous, but not surprising stuff. Let´s see how will Juve/Moggi talk themselves out of this situation now. Oh wait, they wont since they´re on media silence [maybe someone knew that this story would leak?].

    If guilty, they should be send to Serie B and three of their latest badges [2001-02, 2003-04, 2004-05] should be taken away.
    Peppino Prisco: "La gioia più grande? Scontata. Il Milan in B. E per ben due volte: una... a pagamento e una... gratis. Sono dell 'idea che una retrocessione cancelli almeno cinque scudetti conquistati e che la vittoria di una Mitropa Cup elimini i residui"

    Peppino Prisco: "Io non rubo il campionato, e in Serie B non son mai stato"

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    Nothing will come out of this as usual. Juventus and Moggi will once again be let off the hook, and people will more or less forget about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy
    Nothing will come out of this as usual.
    I believe so as well.

    Doesnt really matter how much they screw up and get caught, they´ll always find a way.
    Peppino Prisco: "La gioia più grande? Scontata. Il Milan in B. E per ben due volte: una... a pagamento e una... gratis. Sono dell 'idea che una retrocessione cancelli almeno cinque scudetti conquistati e che la vittoria di una Mitropa Cup elimini i residui"

    Peppino Prisco: "Io non rubo il campionato, e in Serie B non son mai stato"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommi

    If guilty, they should be send to Serie B .
    it wont happen, but just in case...

    I call dibs on the name Buventus and Jubentus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by helal25
    it wont happen, but just in case...

    I call dibs on the name Buventus and Jubentus!

    Copyright Helal25, patent pending. wutever.
    God damn, they are great names too!

    But as usual, all of this will come to nothing...

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    I hope they go where they belong, B.

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    http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoId=46244

    Exclusive: The Moggi Tapes Transcribed

    Goal.com reveals the first transcripts that could very well land Luciano Moggi into court. The excerpts reproduced in English here covers two potentially explosive revelations – based on interpretation.

    The first appears to show that Pierluigi Pairetto arranged a friendly ref for a Champions League match in the Amsterdam Arena – Urs Maier – and was expecting to be ‘remembered,’ something that Moggi guaranteed would happen.

    The second (in two parts) introduces a novel form of payment – a Maserati. It would appear that Moggi turned to Juve supremo Agnelli (of automotive fame and enormous fortune) for a sports car that would be ‘a gift’ for ‘a friend’ who turns out to be Enzo: none other than Innocenzo Mazzini - the Italian Federation VP.

    Goal.com encourages readers to judge for themselves if the conversations really are proof of ill-will and wrong-doing or just a friendly conversation between old pals blown up by a wave of anti-Juve hysteria. Can this blow Serie A out of the water – or is it just a bubble of flatulence in a Jacuzzi?

    I REMEMBER YOU

    Moggi: Hello

    Pairetto: Hey there, I know you forgot all about me, but I didn’t.

    Moggi: Come on…

    Pairetto: I placed a great referee for the Amsterdam match.

    Moggi: Who?

    Pairetto: Meier

    Moggi: Great!

    Pairetto: You see that I still think about you, even though you don’t anymore…

    Moggi: Don’t start, now you’ll see, when I’m back, then you’ll see if I forgot you.

    I NEED A CAR

    Man: Agnelli’s house, good morning

    Moggi: Good morning, I’m Moggi. I need Nalla

    Nalla: Hello Luciano

    Moggi: I need something urgently, because we need to do…

    Nalla: Yes

    Moggi: For an important friend, a Maserati

    Nalla: Yes

    Moggi: Four-door

    Nalla: Four-door?

    Moggi: Yes. We give you a week’s time, ten days, ok?

    Nalla: Ok

    THE CAR IS AVAILABLE

    Enzo: Hello?

    Pairetto: Enzo?

    Enzo: Hello Gigi

    Pairetto: Listen, I wanted to tell you that I practically have the car.

    Enzo: Which?

    Pairetto: So when we want to go pick it up there, the Maserati is practically available.

    Enzo: Come on

    Pairetti: Yes, therefore

    Enzo: Madonna!

    Pairetto: Now when I’m back home tomorrow I will call directly the Royal House.

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    really funny.
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    This is incredible, this should take Juve down in Serie B. I'm serious. I'm going to translate more of this telephone transcripts. Also keep in mind that the source is Gazzetta.it, not some bullshit site.
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    I cant wait to here more Frisko make sure you to put it in the quick reply box on the forum's front page so everyone comes here to read your translations. This is the proof everyone was looking for. However as Jimmy said absolutely nothing will happen as a result of this. The most that will happen is that Moggi will resign from Juve but will retain ownership as an agent of all the Italian players from his son's agency. He will still be able to do all his wheeling and dealing but will have to do it in a more covert fashion.

    Mark my words Juve will not suffer from this evidence whatsoever.
    "It is not about what I've done, it is about what I am going to do"

    "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didnt exist".

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    curious 2 know more, but deep in my heart i know that it wont cause any damage 2 Juventus or Moggi

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    OH god this is huge, but as we all have known for several years then there is nothing new about it, we all knew that juve where cheating. but they will most likely get away with it, just as they got away with the doping scandal.

    But after such evidence they should at least be relegated to serie b and their last 2-3 trophies taken away from them. But we all know that it won't happened.

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    http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=46244

    CONVERSATION BETWEEN MOGGI AND PAIRETTO (11th August 2004)

    Moggi and Pairetto (the vice-President of the Uefa Referees Commission) speak on the phone about the Champions League first leg of the preliminary round between Juventus and Djugarden which ended 2-2.

    Pairetto: Hello
    Moggi: Gigi? Where are you?
    Pairetti: We left
    Moggi: Oh, what kind of f…. referee did you send us?
    Pairetto: Oh, Fandel is one of the first…
    Moggi: I know, but Miccoli’s goal is valid
    Pairetto: No
    Moggi: Why not? (…) But then all throughout the match he caused problems to us
    Pairetto: I did not like the assistants overall, no, but I was thinking about someone else, the one that had raised was the one of Trezeguet which I remember in front.
    Moggi: That is something else (…) Now be careful in Stockholm, eh?
    Pairetto: This surely is a match…
    Moggi: No, we’ll win, you know…
    Pairetto: But they are poor
    Moggi: But with someone like this it’s difficult, understood?
    (…)

    The conversation shifts to a discussion about some summer friendlies:

    Moggi: Oh, at Messina send me Consolo and Battaglia
    Pairetto: Eh, I already did it
    Moggi: And who will you send us?
    Pairetto: I think Consolo and Battaglia
    Moggi: Eh, with Cassara, eh?
    Pairetto: Yes
    Moggi: And at Livorno, Rocchi?
    Pairetto: At Livorno Rocchi, yes
    Moggi: And for the Trofeo Berlusconi Pieri, please
    Pairetto: We have not done it yet
    Moggi: We shall do it later
    Pairetto: Ok we’ll do it later.

    CONVERSATION BETWEEN MOGGI, MORENA AND PAIRETTO (24th August 2004 – on the eve of the Champions League second leg match against Djugarden)

    Moggi: Hello?
    Morena: Mister Moggi, hello. I wanted to announce to you the referee and assistants for tomorrow night’s Champions League match
    Moggi: Who’s the referee, Cardoso?
    Morena: No, I see Poll Graham’s name
    Moggi: Uhm…Where is he from?
    Morena: He’s English
    (…)
    Pairetto: Hello
    Moggi: Good morning
    Pairetto: Hey there, good morning!
    Moggi: Oh, what about Cardoso, eh?
    Pairetto: Eh
    Moggi: Paul Green (Moggi actually confused Graham Poll with Paul Green)
    Pairetto: What?
    Moggi: Paul Green
    Pairetto: Then something must have happened in the last moment, I have Cardoso, something must have happened… he must have been sick or something like that
    Moggi: Inform yourself
    Pairetto: Yes yes, I will

    Two weeks before the first group match of the first phase of the Champions League (2004/05 season) in program on the 15th of September, Pairetto announces the referee of that match to Moggi (the game ended 1-0 for the Bianconeri)

    Moggi: Hello
    Pairetto: Hey there, I know you forgot all about me, but I didn’t.
    Moggi: Come on…
    Pairetto: I placed a great referee for the Amsterdam match.
    Moggi: Who?
    Pairetto: Meier
    Moggi: Great!
    Pairetto: You see that I still think about you, even though you don’t anymore…
    Moggi: Don’t start, now you’ll see, when I’m back, that I didn't forget you.


    CONVERSATION BETWEEN MOGGI AND GIRAUDO (14th August 2004 – the two Bianconeri managers talk about the referee designations)

    Giraudo: We see immediately what kind of air there is; you have any news of how the atmosphere is there at Sportilia?
    Moggi: Good, good with Gigi (Pairetto)
    Giraudo: But it’s not like last year?
    Moggi: No, no, with Gigi it’s great
    Giraudo: But now we tell him to work hard for this crow, because we cannot go on with this d… head


    CONVERSATION ABOUT A CAR FOR AN IMPORTANT FRIEND

    Man: Agnelli’s house, good morning
    Moggi: Good morning, I’m Moggi. I need Nalla
    Nalla: Hello Luciano
    Moggi: I need urgently, because we need to do…
    Nalla: Yes
    Moggi: For an important friend, a Maserati
    Nalla: Yes
    Moggi: Four-door
    Nalla: Four-door?
    Moggi: Yes. We give you a week’s time, ten days, ok?
    Nalla: Ok

    Enzo: Hello?
    Pairetto: Enzo?
    Enzo: Hello Gigi
    Pairetto: Listen, I wanted to tell you that I practically have the car.
    Enzo: Which?
    Pairetto: So when we want to go pick it up there is practically available the Maserati.
    Enzo: Come on
    Pairetti: Yes, therefore
    Enzo: Madonna!
    Pairetto: Now when I’m back home tomorrow I will call directly the Royal House.


    Mazzini On Carraro (The FIGC vice-President and Moggi speak to each other on the 6th of September, about the federal elections and a meeting with the referees)

    Mazzini: For this ass.... (referred to Carrara), don’t forget that he thinks that, also if he passes like he normally wants, he will win. Instead you must stick it up his a… Don’t forget
    Moggi: Ooh if I tell you let me talk to him, then tomorrow I have the appointment
    Mazzini: Ok
    (…)
    Mazzine: On Friday I’ll do the referees
    Moggi: On Friday I will come too
    Mazzini: I told Anto’ and he told me that he won’t come
    Moggi: Let it go, that’s a hybrid environment, the less that someone blends in, the better it is, and it’s not worth it to stay far away: I will make one take part or I will take part, or I will send Alessio


    CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN MOGGI AND SON

    (10th September 2004)

    Alessandro Moggi: …the other day, take it as an information, then I don’t know, I met up with Preziosi (former President of Genoa) as always
    Luciano Moggi: Uhm
    A. Moggi: He started telling me how football is changing, you must be careful of this and that, Carraro, Galliani, then he tells me not to trust Montezemolo. I ask him why? Because I overheard a conversation at Juve, they want to kick everyone out except for Giraudo
    L. Moggi: Yes, but this is b…..
    A. Moggi: I’m telling you what I heard, since Preziosi is often in this kind of environment, he’s in it.
    L. Moggi: He’s never there
    A. Moggi: Well, dad, I’m telling you because...
    L. Moggi: It’s exactly the other way round


    (19th August 2004)

    A. Moggi: Morabito (agent) called me, in particular Vigorelli (agent), to find out if you wanted to make an exchange of loans for Liverani
    L. Moggi: No, no. They work for Lazio now?
    A. Moggi: What do I know, that’s what he told me
    L. Moggi: Damn it, since that one hooked down there, but I want to talk with him, because they gave them Lopez and they want to give them Marquez, eh?
    A. Moggi: Eh, I know
    L. Moggi: Therefore it’s certain that they managed to get in a little, because they cannot go in much there, unless Cinquini (former Sports Director of Lazio) does not work anymore for Lazio


    (28th August 2004) Talking about Miccoli

    L. Moggi: I asked Lotito for 10 million and he told me 5, no? You must tell him: look, I can convince my father to do it for 7.5 million. Tell him some stories at the beginning
    A. Moggi: Ok

    Luciano then calls a friend of Miccoli

    L. Moggi: Tell him to be less stupid, otherwise I won’t let him be called up for the National team, so I pass a judgement on him, because I will send him to the National team.


    CONVERSATION WITH BISCARDI (TV PERSONALITY AND JOURNALIST)

    Biscardi: Hello?
    Moggi: Can I speak with Doctor Biscardi?
    Biscardi: It’s me
    Moggi: I’m Luciano Moggi
    Biscardi: Uehh….Lucia
    Moggi: So yesterday I called here our friend from Trieste…Baldas (former referee designator and commentator on the TV program “Il Processo di Biscardi”). I gave him a good talking, but there was no need. He does not have any fault
    (…)
    Moggi: But if he doesn’t come I won’t get anyone else, why should we kill the league off?
    Biscardi: No, you won’t kill f…. anything, maybe you killed it off last season, you should give me 40 million, you bet with me and you lost
    Moggi: Aldo, but I…you’re like an insured clock, what can I say?
    Biscardi: And where is it?
    Moggi: And you know that when I tell you…
    Biscardi: And I don’t know. You never send it…
    Moggi: F… off, I gave you one, it cost 40 million.

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    Conversation between Luciano Moggi and Innocenzo Mazzini, vicepresident of the Lega Calcio:

    (Talking about an article on the Gazzetta newspaper)

    Moggi: "Who asked for that article? Carraro, with Calabrese's help (Calabrese=former director of Gazzetta). But I told them last night, are you idiots? Are you out of your mind, writing that stuff?

    Innocenzi: "Then all other newspapers go wild."

    Moggi: "No worries, I made them stop now, this articles are over as from Monday. (Note from Gazzetta: the articles will actually continue for 7 more months).

    A different conversation, Moggi and Innocenzi talk about refs:

    Innocenzi: "On Friday I'm going to decide the refs."

    Moggi: "I'm coming too."


    Converstations between Moggi and Pierluigi Pairetto, designator of refs for the Italian League and vicepresident of UEFA's refs commission.

    Moggi: "Hello."

    Pairetto: "Hey, I know you forgot about me but I didn't forget about you."

    Moggi: "Come on..."

    Pairetto: "Hey I've chosen a great ref for the Amsterdam game."

    Moggi: "Who is it?"

    Pairetto: "Meier."

    Moggi: "Great!"

    After Juve v Djugarden 2-2.

    Moggi: "What phuckin ref did you send us?"

    Pairetto: "Fandel is among the best..."

    Moggi: "Yeah but Miccoli's goal was fine."

    Pairetto: "No, he was in front of the defenders."

    Moggi: "It was good, it was good."

    Pairetto: "No, he was in front."

    Moggi: "He wasn't, and anyway the whole game, he made a complete mess and..."

    Pairetto: "You know he's one of the top..."

    Moggi: "He can go phuck himself, I'm telling you Gigi, he can go take it up the ass. Trust me. Now careful with the Stockholm game, eh?"

    Pairetto: "Gosh, that'll be a hard game..."

    Moggi: "It's ok, we'll win... But with a ref like that... you know what I mean?"

    Moggi then asks for refs in the pre-season games:

    Moggi: "Send me Consolo and Battaglia for the Messina game."

    Pairetto: "I've already picked the refs for that one."

    Moggi: "Who are they?"

    Pairetto: "Consolo and Battaglia I think."

    Moggi: "And I want Pieri for the Berlusconi Cup, ok?"

    Pairetto: "We didn't do that one yet."

    Moggi: "Let's do it later then."

    Pairetto: "Yeah ok we'll do that one later."

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    So this huge case include Gallaini and Cararro too?

    really huge case...it's disaster.
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    Moggi and Giraudo dissin Lippi:

    G: "Marcello won't get anywhere, he won't even qualify for the WC."

    M: "I'll tell you something, he's covering his ass like a dog."

    G: "Yeah?"

    M: "Jesus, he called me."

    G: "It's because now he's afraid."

    M: "He's scared."

    G: "Luciano, I'll tell you what'll happen to him, in 10 months he'll have 10 big players against him. They don't want to play for the NT anymore. All the press against him. There's nothing he can't do, he hasn't got the temper to do that job. Everybody's against him, look!"

    M: "He wants to invent new systems, there you go."
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    Oh my god.....

    Serie-A is not football league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh god.....
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    Well I think between me and the others we got most of it.



    You fuc ked up you piece of shit, now all of your cheats are down on paper and millions of people are reading throughout Italy and the world. Teams were kicked out of Serie A for fixing one game, here we're talking about picking refs out of a menu.

    And then Figo gets fined eh? Italian football is going down the toilet, actually it's down there already, we'll see if somebody will fish it out.
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