View Poll Results: Should Inter leave the Giuseppe Meazza Stadium?

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  • Yes, I am not fond of the pitch

    53 10.43%
  • Yes, I don't like the Giuseppe Meazza

    10 1.97%
  • Yes, I dislike the notion of sharing stadium space with AC Milan

    154 30.31%
  • Yes, but only because the rental fees are astronomical

    130 25.59%
  • No, the Giuseppe Meazza is our home

    129 25.39%
  • I am undecided

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    Dis won't be resolved in my life time unfortunately

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    Several months ago they agreed to get back to the city counsil with a defenitive answer, while Inter already agreeing to redevelope the Meazza. AC Poverty having much bigger problems tried the to stall but the Mayor and Inter played a game that brought Bbilan to the table asap. Now they have to agree to spending money on the stadia or gtfo.

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    We can't even afford a reserve CB, so I don't know how we can expect to afford a stadium
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    The problem with this kind of site in english is the international brand of supporters from non-footballers or non-top-footballer countries..
    You see people from Colombia, Oceania, Ireland(i think) pretending that at least ONCE in their life they saw a young wc talent arriving and becoming a world star.

    Just a idea: if you want a serious debate about football, you should block everybody from countries that NEVER will win nothing and NEVER will have a balon d'or, for example.
    Whats the point about those guys opinions??? Can i go to some New Zealand chat and start to teach them how to recognize the better wc prospects among young Rugby players?
    Again, if you NEVER saw a young wc prospect struggling in his first years, like Kaka or Ronaldinho who were booed by they local supporters here, how could you judge????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    We can't even afford a reserve CB, so I don't know how we can expect to afford a stadium
    Infrastructure investments do not count towards FFP calculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior55 View Post
    Infrastructure investments do not count towards FFP calculation
    But they do count towards Chinese government restrictions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlen View Post
    The problem with this kind of site in english is the international brand of supporters from non-footballers or non-top-footballer countries..
    You see people from Colombia, Oceania, Ireland(i think) pretending that at least ONCE in their life they saw a young wc talent arriving and becoming a world star.

    Just a idea: if you want a serious debate about football, you should block everybody from countries that NEVER will win nothing and NEVER will have a balon d'or, for example.
    Whats the point about those guys opinions??? Can i go to some New Zealand chat and start to teach them how to recognize the better wc prospects among young Rugby players?
    Again, if you NEVER saw a young wc prospect struggling in his first years, like Kaka or Ronaldinho who were booed by they local supporters here, how could you judge????

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    Who the hell cares about stadium nowadays lol, just bring in proper players and build a competitive team rather than a stadium.
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    tbf, its not impossible to fund a stadium by raising debt (like bonds). Because you've got some pretty decent collateral to sit against it - even if there arent that many takers, provided we put in a reasonable deposit (10-20% maybe?) it wont be too hard to raise the cash I suspect. the political part of a new stadium is probably the bigger issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Besnik View Post
    Who the hell cares about stadium nowadays lol, just bring in proper players and build a competitive team rather than a stadium.
    I would rather suck for a few seasons and get an updated stadium we own than have short term success and no stadium. Sunning isn't going to be here forever, and TV revenue for Serie A is decreasing. A stadium is more important to me
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    Then we'll just buy the federation and create our own rules.
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    I dont think juventus are willing to sell


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    What the fuck is this bullshit. Are we really going to stay at Meazza and City of Milano still owns the stadium?

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    I think everything is on hold until Suning figures out the financial restrictions with China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    But they do count towards Chinese government restrictions.
    The Chinese Goverment restriction became a total BS since Bakambu joined Beijing Guoan for 40m, FFP is the real deal

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    Yes but that is a Chinese team buying a player to play in their league, i guess its viewed as an internal investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    I would rather suck for a few seasons and get an updated stadium we own than have short term success and no stadium. Sunning isn't going to be here forever, and TV revenue for Serie A is decreasing. A stadium is more important to me
    We have been stuck for almost a decade and nothing has happened, and don't think this will happen in a near future as well.
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    Can we buy the stadium from the city and just fix it? Get all the match day winnings?

    Isnít that why Juve has soon much money compared to the other teams in Italy?
    can we stop buying fking MFs!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzdcolombian View Post
    Can we buy the stadium from the city and just fix it? Get all the match day winnings?

    Isn’t that why Juve has soon much money compared to the other teams in Italy?
    Having your own stadium has its perks financially but it's not a revenue panacea. You need to be able to make use of it. Expecting gigantic returns from owning the stadium alone is naive, you only play there once every fortnight and not through the whole 12 months of the year. You also need to improve the surrounding area and make it a commercial hub, preferably one that has a daily usage plus the ability to attract events when the team is not using it.

    Buying the San Siro without Milan having their own plans will guarantee us a rental income from them but at the same time we won't be able to utilise the facilities at the optimum level and we also lose a couple of days of use within a given fortnight. Can't really make up the opportunity cost equation but I'm guessing the conservative approach is to gain 3-5m from Milan a year whilst on the other hand you have the potential to earn that every 3 months if you play your cards right with various concerts, exhibitions, events, conferences, seminars and so on.

    In the US, the indoor stadiums aren't really that big but they have much higher revenues. That's because they host more teams and have a more concentrated timetable and they've also taken technology into account. They sell apps and shit like that, which have use at the stadium alone. Not sure if that can be translated into Italian or even European football, it's a very different culture.

    Even owning the stadium 50-50 with Milan could prove much better than the current situation, but the council and state must be willing to allow the new owner to expand the facilities in the surrounding area.
    Shopping malls, a couple of hotels, perhaps a casino, a vast sports center, conference centers and so on must be part of the whole "new stadium" complex. And there's enough space around the San Siro really and it's a historic chance to make this happen. And preferably without Milan in the picture, they can fuck off to Rho or someplace outside of Milano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo View Post
    The Chinese Goverment restriction became a total BS since Bakambu joined Beijing Guoan for 40m, FFP is the real deal
    You don't understand, that's exactly what the Chinese government wants. Their don't want their mega-rich corporations/owners spending hundreds of millions of Euros on players for European clubs. They want investment in China, they want money spent on Chinese things (sporting clubs, for instance). So when a Chinese club splashes millions of dollars to bring some player to play in the Chinese league, that's considered a win for China.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlen View Post
    The problem with this kind of site in english is the international brand of supporters from non-footballers or non-top-footballer countries..
    You see people from Colombia, Oceania, Ireland(i think) pretending that at least ONCE in their life they saw a young wc talent arriving and becoming a world star.

    Just a idea: if you want a serious debate about football, you should block everybody from countries that NEVER will win nothing and NEVER will have a balon d'or, for example.
    Whats the point about those guys opinions??? Can i go to some New Zealand chat and start to teach them how to recognize the better wc prospects among young Rugby players?
    Again, if you NEVER saw a young wc prospect struggling in his first years, like Kaka or Ronaldinho who were booed by they local supporters here, how could you judge????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    You don't understand, that's exactly what the Chinese government wants. Their don't want their mega-rich corporations/owners spending hundreds of millions of Euros on players for European clubs. They want investment in China, they want money spent on Chinese things (sporting clubs, for instance). So when a Chinese club splashes millions of dollars to bring some player to play in the Chinese league, that's considered a win for China.
    While you are right that the Chinese restrictions on outward investment do not apply to Chinese clubs buying foreign players, however this is so NOT what Chinese Govt wants.

    The objective of restrictions on outward investment (i.e. investing in companies abroad) is to keep the money in China. Of course, the Chinese govt do not restrict most imports as that would harm the local economy, but certain imports are also discouraged as it also means money leaving China. Football transfers being one of those imports that are strongly discouraged. That is why when a Chinese club buys a player from Europe for 40m (as it is in this case), they also have to pay 40m in duty to the govt. So the cost to the club has been doubled (80m) to discourage these transfers.

    On the other hand, Chinese govt has no issues if Inter or Milan spend a lot of money, as long as this money is not originating from China (which has been restricted). Which is why Suning and Lee are funding these clubs via raising loans from outside of China. That is what I have been trying to explain here for a while - if Suning want to invest 200m on transfers, they can easily do it by raising funds in Italy/Europe (just like they did last month with a 300m Bond issue). Suning not investing on transfers is a business decision, pure and simple. "Chinese restrictions" is just an excuse for gullible fans and sports journalists who don't understand finance.

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    but Suning is investing via...REGIONAL SPONSORS! and yes FFP has to be respected...we need a 0 for this season in the balance book STRICTLY...FFP isn't an excuse because Nike and Pirelli are disgusting...look how the sponsorship's have dropped...they low balled us in our darkest hour!


    Exclusive) - Inter is in line with the big names in Europe in no time, this is the financial plan of Suning


    One of the great rebuses around Inter is linked to financial aspects, the vast majority of Nerazzurri fans are not clear what the Suning plans are for the Milanese club. Why Zhang have spent so much money on the various Candreva, Joao Mario and Gabigol and then slow down dramatically over the months.


    Our editorial staff wanted to get to the bottom of the matter, questioning on the subject items inside the company mainly employed in the financial management of the same. This is the economic plan of Inter for present and future that has been explained to us.


    Suning compared to the first months of management has had a clear conscience in reference to what is the European football system. There are existing constraints with financed fair play, as is known. Specifically, Inter has an agreement with UEFA that provides for a settlement agreement. The company was able to meet the parameters at 30 June 2017 and now aims to achieve a balanced budget also for the closure of the 2018 budget. The goal is this, if achieved we will free ourselves from this constraint. The Zhang Group is convinced of being able to achieve the sporting season goal, the Champions League qualification, with the current roster and with the addition of some items on loan in the January market or on arrival with 'fanciful' operations. In this way it will be possible to bring the financial commitment further as we are going to explain.


    With the entry into the maximum competition would arrive not only the minimum 50 million euros for participation only but will leverage on all other existing sponsorship contracts. Suning is a company with an annual turnover of 50 billion euros, it would not be a problem for the same to spend 100 or 200 million for Inter. The point is that the Zhang are convinced, after almost two years of experience at the helm of the Nerazzurri, to have taken the right path. So far, internal sponsorships have been brought to the Group, which have yielded € 60 million, a limit figure in the face of the sporting results obtained and which made it possible to achieve a balanced budget in the last financial year. With the improved results and, hopefully, with the constant participation in the Champions League starting from next season, Inter would see the aforementioned figure increase dramatically, at the limit of tripling.


    In this way the colossus of Nanjing will be able to guarantee to the former club of Moratti purchases and engagements in line with the big Europeans remaining in the Uefa rules. To make the most banal example, the sponsorship of Pinetina which now yields a figure just under 20 million euros per season would rise up to 50 with the entry into CL. The discourse applies to all agreements signed in the last year and a half with the various sponsorships that came with the advent of Suning at Inter.


    Clarity and results, these are the diktat of Suning, there is no other way to go back to big.


    Enzo Margiotta


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenine View Post
    While you are right that the Chinese restrictions on outward investment do not apply to Chinese clubs buying foreign players, however this is so NOT what Chinese Govt wants.

    The objective of restrictions on outward investment (i.e. investing in companies abroad) is to keep the money in China. Of course, the Chinese govt do not restrict most imports as that would harm the local economy, but certain imports are also discouraged as it also means money leaving China. Football transfers being one of those imports that are strongly discouraged. That is why when a Chinese club buys a player from Europe for 40m (as it is in this case), they also have to pay 40m in duty to the govt. So the cost to the club has been doubled (80m) to discourage these transfers.

    On the other hand, Chinese govt has no issues if Inter or Milan spend a lot of money, as long as this money is not originating from China (which has been restricted). Which is why Suning and Lee are funding these clubs via raising loans from outside of China. That is what I have been trying to explain here for a while - if Suning want to invest 200m on transfers, they can easily do it by raising funds in Italy/Europe (just like they did last month with a 300m Bond issue). Suning not investing on transfers is a business decision, pure and simple. "Chinese restrictions" is just an excuse for gullible fans and sports journalists who don't understand finance.
    the way i see it, suning right now is like a student who has been caught cheating during the exam and now is overdoing to prove they are a good student. they are being more prudent than necessary because of the accusations in the summer.
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