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    Inter & AC Milan Plan To Have New Stadium Completed By 2024

    Inter and AC Milan’s new stadium is getting closer and closer and will be completed by 2024 according to a report in today’s print edition of Italian daily newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport.

    Officials from the two clubs met with Milan city council yesterday to hold further talks over the stadium project and the parties came to an agreement over the volume of the project.

    The parties have been brought closer with thanks to this agreement but there are still some bureaucratic steps required before the final go ahead can be given and the Milan city council also need to vote it through.

    The report goes on to add that between July and August, Inter and AC Milan will choose their preferred project of the two still in the running which come from Populous Manica/Cmr Sportium.

    Whilst the stadium will be completed in 2024, it will not be until 2028 when the surrounding entertainment district will be completed in its entirety.
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    Can we have a vote on FIF on whether the Milan city council will vote it through or not?

    My vote will be on NO, No they won’t.

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    Architects bid to halt demolition of San Siro stadium

    Scores of architects have written to the mayor of Milan expressing concern over plans by Populous and rival bidder Manica/Sportium to rebuild the city’s main football stadium

    The London Olympic Stadium designer and the US-Italian consortium both unveiled fresh concepts for the replacement of the 1920s San Siro stadium earlier this month.

    The troubled project to create a new home for European football giants AC Milan and Inter Milan received a further boost when the regional cultural heritage commission declared it did not see a need to preserve the entire existing Giuseppe Meazza Stadium.

    However, a letter to mayor Beppe Sala, signed by 175 architects, writers, historians, professors and others, has called for ongoing use of the existing stadium. It warned current proposals could see ‘fragments of the historical stadium […] reduced to a sort of fake ruin surrounded by greenery’.

    ‘In the 1950s, what remained of one of the oldest and most important churches of Milan, San Giovanni in Conca, had a similar fate: the fake ruin of the apse, in Piazza Missori, should serve as a warning,’ said the letter, signed by PLP associate partner Chiara Occhipinti and University of Bristol historian John Foot, among others from around Europe.

    ‘We would rather avoid the repetition of what happened to the Wembley Stadium in London – another symbolic building barbarously demolished in 2003 and replaced by a much more banal structure [designed by Foster + Partners]. Not to mention the enormous disposal costs of steel and reinforced concrete structures, both in economic and environmental terms.

    ‘We hope that the Meazza will continue to be used as a stadium and that a solution will be found that primarily meets the needs of the city and its inhabitants.’

    The latest bid to retain the existing stadium comes after the city council hit out at previous proposals for excessive scale, focus on commercial activities and the total demolition of the San Siro arena.

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    ‘It is true that the structures of the 1920s and 1930s are incorporated in the later additions and that they are not very visible. However, the fact remains that the extensions of the 1950s and 1980s have made the Meazza a building of undeniable architectural and technological quality.

    ‘It has become one of the recognised monuments of the city, not only by the Milanese but also by Italian and foreign visitors, for many of whom a visit to the San Siro Stadium is as indispensable as those to the Duomo, La Scala and the Castle. After all, the Meazza is a symbol of collective memory: a temple of football, but also home to memorable concerts, now gone down in history.’

    The football clubs said in a joint statement last month: ‘AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano have submitted to the Municipality of Milan a preparatory document for the feasibility project for the creation of a new world-class stadium and a sports and entertainment district in the San Siro area.

    ‘The new concepts designed by Populous and Manica/Sportium provide for the retention of a part of the current Giuseppe Meazza Stadium within a new retail and sports district that can be used 365 days a year, including about 106,000m² of green space.’

    This retained element would be dedicated to retail, sports, cultural and leisure activities both outdoors and indoors. It will feature a running track, a cycle path, an outdoor gym, a skateboard park, a five-a-side pitch and a sports museum.

    ‘Both concepts would deliver an innovative district dedicated to the next generation, cutting-edge for its low environmental impact and high sustainability, creating a new meeting place for social and recreational activities in the neighbourhood,’ said the clubs.

    ‘AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano believe it is essential, especially in light of the current moment, to commence a project that represents more than €1 billion (£880 million) of private investment, which will generate thousands of new jobs and serve as a cornerstone for the future development of the city of Milan and Italian football.’

    A new stadium – initially expected to cost about £600 million – was intended to be completed for the start of the 2022-23 season.

    AC Milan have been playing at the San Siro since it was built in 1925 and have shared it with rivals Inter Milan since 1947.

    In the 1950s, the ground had 19 external pedestrian ramps added to it. Then 11 concrete cylindrical towers (designed by Ragazzi and Partners 1987-1990) were installed as part of a major overhaul ahead of Italy’s iconic 1990 World Cup
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    I only read parts of that ‘letter’ posted above but my initial thoughts are that those architects can fuck off.


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    Only in Italy can people argue that a football stadium is a historically significant structure, as if any real history has happened here. It's just a game. Arguing that this stadium deserves similar treatment to that of a duomo, piazza, or colosseum is laughable.

    People are going to come to Milano to watch football matches regardless of what stadium they're in because one of the biggest football clubs in the world plays there, and Milan. Who knows, maybe you'd even convince more people to come to matches if the vendors weren't operating out of fold-out tables.

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    Well, in San Francisco a fucking laundromat was recognized as a historical site to prohibit construction of a new apartment building so Milan seems to be not that unreasonable in comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    Only in Italy can people argue that a football stadium is a historically significant structure, as if any real history has happened here. It's just a game. Arguing that this stadium deserves similar treatment to that of a duomo, piazza, or colosseum is laughable.
    In Austria too. The Happel-Stadion. Well, we are famous for the legendary victories from Austrian teams in it.

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    the regional cultural heritage commission, as the article says, has already stated that it's basically not worth preserving, the reason being that very little of the original project is still present.
    "As usual in Italy some decisions are made without sense and logic. The dark side of the football that we tried to clean up returns to light".

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    Imo they are misguided and considering their professional profiles you probably wouldn't be far off in guessing their opposition has more to do with what they see as commercialization of sport and culture and anti-corporate sentiments. I might be wrong about this though.

    What is annoying is that there is not one word from what I read about for example UEFA's requirements or Milan city politics pushing clubs into huge, risky investments or current financial challenges imposed to the clubs by no fault of their own.

    The fact Inter needs a new stadium is a much wider issue than what they are describing in the letter. The fact they've sent the letter to Sala () shows that.

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