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    Top Ten reasons why men fail with women and solutions to the problem.

    MISTAKE #1: Being
    Too Much Of A "Nice Guy"

    Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted "nice" guys?

    Of course you have.

    Just like me, I'm sure you've had attractive female friends that always seemed to date "jerks"… but for some reason they were never romantically interested in YOU.

    What's going on here?

    It's actually very simple…

    Women don't base their choices of men on how "nice" a guy is. They choose the men they do because they feel a powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for them.

    And guess what?

    Being nice doesn't make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION.

    And being NICE doesn't make a woman CHOOSE you.

    I realize that this doesn't make a lot of logical sense, and it's hard to ACCEPT… but GET OVER IT.

    Until you accept this FACT and begin to act on it, you'll NEVER have the success with women that you want.

    MISTAKE #2: Trying To
    "Convince Her To Like You"

    What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like… but she's just notinterested?

    Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.

    Well, I have news for you… YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!

    Never, ever, EVER.

    You cannot CONVINCE a woman to feel differently about you with "logic and reasoning".

    Think about it.

    If a woman doesn't "feel it" for you, how in the world do you expect to change that FEELING by being "reasonable" with her?

    But we all do it.

    When a woman just isn't interested, we beg, plead, chase, and do our best to change her mind.

    Bad idea. One that will never work.

    MISTAKE #3: Looking To Her
    For Approval Or Permission

    In our desire to please women (which we mistakenly think will make them like us), us guys are always doing things to get a woman's "approval" or "permission".

    Another HORRIBLE idea.

    Women are NEVER attracted to the types of men who kiss up to them… EVER.

    Don't get me wrong here.

    You don't have to treat women BADLY for them to like you.

    But if you think that treating a woman well means "always getting her approval and permission for things", think again.

    You will never succeed by looking for approval. Women actually get ANNOYED at men who seek their approval.

    Doubt me? Just ask any attractive woman if Wussy guys who chase her around and want her approval annoy her…

    MISTAKE #4: Trying To "Buy" Her
    Affection With Food And Gifts

    How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?

    If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT.

    Well guess what?

    It's only NATURAL when this happens…

    That's right, I said NATURAL.

    When you do these things, you send a clear message:

    "I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".

    Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION.

    MISTAKE #5: Sharing
    "How You Feel" Too Early In
    The Relationship With Her

    Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.

    Attractive women are rare.

    And they get a LOT of attention from men.

    Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE

    An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.

    And guess what?

    Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men.

    That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.

    They know what to expect.

    And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.

    This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast… and can't control themselves.

    Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.

    There's a much better way…

    MISTAKE #6: Not "Getting" How
    Attraction Works For Women

    Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.

    You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.

    When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.

    But does the same apply for women?

    Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?

    Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks.

    Have you ever noticed that you see a lot more average and unattractive men with beautiful women than the other way around?

    Think about it.

    Women are more attracted to certain qualities in men… and they're attracted to the way a man makes them FEEL than they are to looks alone.

    If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

    But it's not an accident. You have to LEARN how to do this.

    And ANY guy can learn how…

    MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It
    Takes Money And Looks

    One of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they've even gotten started… because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money… or guys who are a certain height… or guys who are a certain age.

    And sure, there are some women who are only interested in these things.

    But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.

    There are personality traits that attract women like a magnet…

    And if you learn what they are and how to use them, YOU can be one of these guys.

    YOU DO NOT have to "settle" for a woman just because you aren't rich, tall, or handsome.

    Let me say this again: If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

    MISTAKE #8: Giving Away
    All Of Your Power To Women

    Earlier I mentioned that it's a mistake to look to a woman for approval or permission.

    Well, another similar tactic that a lot of guys use is GIVING AWAY THEIR POWER to women.

    Said differently, guys try to get women to like them by doing whatever the woman wants.

    Another bad idea…

    Women are NEVER attracted to men that they can walk all over… Women aren't attracted to Wussies!

    MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing
    EXACTLY What To Do In Each
    Type Of Situation With Women

    Now I'm going to blow your mind…

    A woman ALWAYS knows what you're thinking.

    Women are approximately TEN TIMES better than men at reading body language. That's ten TIMES.

    I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you're out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.

    And if you don't know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won't help!

    And this goes for ALL aspects of women and dating…

    Approaching a woman, getting her number, asking her out, kissing her, getting physical… everything.

    If you don't know what to do in each situation, you will probably screw it up… and LOSE EVERYTHING.

    And you KNOW it.

    It is VITALLY important that you know EXACTLY how to go from one step to the next with a woman… from the first meeting, all the way to the bedroom.

    MISTAKE #10: Not Getting HELP

    This is the biggest mistake of all.

    This is the mistake that keeps most men from EVER having the kind of success with women that they truly want.

    I know, guys don't like to make themselves look weak or helpless. We don't like to ask for help.

    Hey, I've been there myself.

    Let me tell you a little about me and how I figured out how to be successful with women…

    About five years ago I became fed up with the fact that I didn't know how to approach, meet, and get dates with women that I was attracted to.

    It frustrated the hell out of me.

    One night I was out with a friend, and I saw a woman I wanted to ask out, but I just couldn't get up the nerve to do it. I can still remember that night… right on the spot I made the decision to do whatever it took to learn how to be successful with women and dating.

    Well, after a lot of hard work and trying all kinds of crazy things, I finally figured it all out.

    I can now approach just about any woman and get her number almost instantly. I've dated models, I've dated actresses, and I've dated nice, normal, regular girls as well.

    It has been a very rewarding experience. I no longer feel that sick, insecure feeling… like I don't know how to meet women… and I might wind up alone.

    I know that anytime, anywhere, I can go out and meet attractive women.

    I've written a book on the topic, and I've done seminars on both coasts of the United States… and taught tens of thousands of men all around the world.





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    Nice sum-up, but it doesn't really help like it promises in the beginning.
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    True. It was a good read but I would rather see more "solutions"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf19 View Post
    True. It was a good read but I would rather see more "solutions"
    Here's the only solution you need: Become a douchebag. Girls are magically attracted to douchebags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsan View Post
    Here's the only solution you need: Become a douchebag. Girls are magically attracted to douchebags.
    Not true, maybe some girls like bad boys or some maybe are genuinly attracted to assholes, but most women are just attracted to confidence. A lot of douchebags are confident. There's you answer professor Ehsan.
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    I'm just glad I got married and don't have to worry about what works and what doesn't anymore

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    The truth is that there are a lot of kinds of woman, some prefer good guys and some other prefer guys who are more cocky and sure of themselves, i guess you should know the girl in first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex de Large View Post
    The truth is that there are a lot of kinds of woman, some prefer good guys and some other prefer guys who are more cocky and sure of themselves, i guess you should know the girl in first place.
    Isn't that the biggest problem men face?
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    Yes, you are right, i was talking more about a friend of a friend or something, someone you already know.
    If you know 0 about the person is much more difficult, i actually can't do it when i go out the weekends, i don't even try.

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    Interesting and somewhat funny read. But fact is, girls are not all the same. Every girl is looking for smth else. You just need to give it and you will get what you want.
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    There are many good points, some great points, with whom many of us can agree with.

    But one thing blew it away. This one:

    "I can now approach just about any woman and get her number almost instantly."

    That sums up the whole article for me. This is not to help you, but to get this dude what he wants, and that is the guys picture, that it is THAT easy, if you just work.

    Bull.

    The most and the biggest truths of all, is that some guys are good with women, fact, but they get turned down, A LOT. And it's more than 50% of the women they approach. Every "good looking guy" will tell you that.

    There is nothing like "get her number almost instantly." Not even close.

    Neverless, a good read.
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    Agree with Luka there.
    If you hit on 100 you are bound to hit at least 1. Some guys might do better, some do worse.
    It is your choice if you want to be like that

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    Well this is not a dating advice or how to hook up with girls 101, but if you want to be in a serious relationship with that woman, why bother reading all this stupid stuff and be someone you're not? Just get the girl who likes your personality, it's that simple. Creating an alter ego or becoming someone else is just doomed to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handoyo View Post
    Well this is not a dating advice or how to hook up with girls 101, but if you want to be in a serious relationship with that woman, why bother reading all this stupid stuff and be someone you're not? Just get the girl who likes your personality, it's that simple. Creating an alter ego or becoming someone else is just doomed to fail.
    True, but working on your flaws can't hurt. It more of knowing what your girl wants, and if you need to completely change who you are, she aint the one, but if all it takes is acting a little differently (like being a little nicer, or respecting her more, or smacking her ass cuz she likes it) then thats something worth changing. YOU CANT BE TOO NICE OR CLINGY, 89.0984 percent of women will be turned off once they see they dont have to work for anything. Like calling and texting them nonstop will bother them. Text the girl occasionally and act like you don't want to hang out or are busy. This will attract the girl to work harder. It will also satisfy her more when she reads or gets a call from you, since she isnt exactly expecting it. Clingyness is bad, be the hard to get type and you will succeed. (i see shahz being the first to reply to my post haha)

    Dont be a douche bag, but be a somewhat hard to get douche bag and make her work for things. Also, never repeatedly tell a girl how much you like her, tell her once, then show her you do, she will trust you.

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    Haha. Expert advice from Anton.

    I have seen guys with success rates of more than 60-70%. Thats a lot! Of course there are girls who hate these kinds but I have seen very few such girls.
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    maybe everyone should just go out and read "The Game - The secret society of Pick-Up Artists" by Neil Strauss
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    It depends on what you want. If you are looking for Slam Bang Stuff then creating Alter Ego does works,but it is a risky/tiring game for both of the people involved.

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