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    Summer Transfers!

    I was wondering what everyone though of this year transfers as usual we were busy but so was every other big club in Italy..

    i was wondering how u guys felt about our transfer strategy v/s the strategy we used in the last couple of year

    and how efficent were we when we compair our work in the transfer market compared to clubs Like Juventus, Milan Parma Fiorentia Roma Lazio

    it would be nice for Inter fans like me who dont get to watch inter games anymore if someone could make a table rating the best and the worst clubs on the transfer market in Italy ( only the big clubs pls)

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    I only talk about the big 3 because I think these clubs will compete for il Scudetto.

    Milan 9/10 But its relative since they didnt need that much change...
    Inter 8/10
    Juventus 7/10

    Good signings: Stam, Davids, Burdisso, Emerson, Ibrahimovic, Gamarra, Favalli, Cambiasso, Ze Maria, Crespo and Kapo.

    Bad signings: Miha, Dhorasoo, Choutos and Zebina.

    Did I leave someone out?
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    Inter: 13 Scudetti

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    Well I have done a some work and information(I am aware Lazio isn;t that big anymore) -

    The big teams -

    Juventus -

    They have only sold 1 big player in Miccoli and with Ibrahimovic and Cannavaro,improved their defense and attack.Same old Moggi,tight not skint!

    In:
    Cannavaro
    Ibrahimovic
    Emerson
    Kapo
    Zebina
    Blasi
    Chiellini
    Volpato
    Cappello(m)

    Out:
    Chiumento
    Boudianski
    Di Vaio
    Maresca
    Brighi
    Onwuachi
    Carini
    Miccoli
    Baiocco
    Chiellini

    Milan -

    Just 3 major reinforcements in Dhorasoo,Crespo and Stam.Not really changed and apart from them 3 have made other minor changes.

    In:
    Stam
    Dhorasoo
    Sarr
    Aubameyang
    Crespo

    Out:
    Laursen
    Borriello

    Roma -

    Well despite some high profiles sales to other clubs,captain Totti has stayed and they have bought some good players to accompany him.

    In:
    Cufre
    Guigou
    Sartor
    Aquilani
    Ferronetti
    Bovo
    Brighi
    Ferrari
    Perrotta
    Mido

    Out:
    Samuel
    Carew
    Zebina
    Lima
    Wahab
    Guigou
    Lupatelli
    Emerson

    Lazio -

    Have bought in over 10 players this summer and have sold quite a few too,while struggle a lot compared to last season!

    In:
    Esteban Gonzalez
    Jose Leanardo Talamonti
    Miguel Angel Mea
    Bryan Robert
    Sebastiano Siviglia
    Antony Seric
    Tommaso Rocchi
    Antonio Filippini
    Emmanuele Filipini
    Di Canio
    Pandev
    D.Baggio
    Manfredini
    Lopez
    Caso(m)

    Out:
    Stam
    Favalli
    Fiore
    Corradi
    Colonnese
    Albertini
    C.Lopez
    Mihajlovic

    Inter -

    With a new motto,more quality,less price Inter have made few errors in this years transfer market.Of course there are always a few!

    In:
    Davids
    Cambiasso
    Favalli
    Veron
    Ventola
    Burdisso
    Choutos
    Mihajlovic
    Ze Maria
    Carini
    Rebecchi

    Out:
    Brechet
    Okan
    Dalmat
    Biava
    Moreau
    Kallon
    Helveg
    Almeyda
    Farinos
    Adani
    Cannavaro
    Ventola
    Zicu
    Lamouchi
    Sorondo

    Club.....Players in.....Players out.....Total.....Good/bad?
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Juventus.............8.............10.............-2.............Bad
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Milan.............5................2.............. +3...............Good
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Roma.............10.............8.............+2.. ..............Good/Bad
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Lazio.............14..............8..............+ 6...............Bad
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Inter.............11..............15.............-4...............Good
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    There you have it so my table from last to first in positions is:

    5th.Lazio
    4th.Juventus
    3rd.Roma
    2nd.Inter
    1st.Milan

    Milan win as they had most continuity!

    Oh well,this could even go on Only Inter comparing the clubs for the beginning of the season!

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    Well Juve's transfer market was actually good (even though Di Vaio and Miccoli are great players, better than Zlatan). But getting Emerson and Cannavaro were outstanding transfers. Emerson is actually the best signing of the whole summer anywhere (maybe Samuel to Real comes close). Juve will be very strong next season.
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    So I figure Davids was not in contention?
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    I wouldn;'t call Cannavaros transfer as outstanding and Miccoli,DI Vaio and Davids last season were big losses!

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    Well the transfer didn't go so well mostly because of Cannavaro to Gobbi. Well before the transfer window opend I had a list of players that I thought would be great...here it is

    GK: Frey, I wonted him because he had a great season while Toldo was huge disapointment. But we ended up with Carini

    CB: Cavalho or W.Samuel. We got Mihajlovic and Burdisso instead and got rid of Adani and Cannavaro stupid deal.

    LB: I didn't have a name but I defently wonted one, simply because Coco was injured all the time and Pasquale yeah he is to unstabel. Inter braught Favalli not what I had in my mind.

    CM: Emerson, no reason to tell u why. We got Davids and Cambiasso instead. Good deal but I will still prefer Emereson.

    RW: Joaquin an awsome player one of the best on that position. But we got Ze Maria instead, this was defently not what I wonted, but after all this is better then AVM.

    So we ended up with no one from my list. man I'm disapointed.

    And no Veron was not on my list. Simply because we had Emre.

    Line up

    -----------------Frey(24)----------------
    J.zanetti(31)-W.Samuel(26)-Cordoba(28)-????
    Joaquin(23)-Emerson(28)-Emre(23)-Stankovic(25)
    ----------Adriano(22)-Martins(19)----------

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    Well I'm happy with our market , only a shame we spoiled it on the last day .

    Don't forget we spent a lot of money in the winter for two players who give the impression of our two BEST players .

    Wer'e safe in goal , the great Toldo is in good form and we have Cordaz and Fontana(Carini will probably be loaned) .

    However I don't belive Carini will ever be our first goalkeeper , I think and hope we will get Timo Hildebrand or Sebastien Frey next season .
    In the defence we got ourselves a great defender with Burdisso , trust me .

    We got Mihajlovic who was in the first 11 for Lazio , so he is probably good enough to be a back up after Materazzi Cordoba Burdisso and Gamarra .

    It's a shame we have released Adani , a good solid defender who has passion for Inter .

    To have released Gamarra might have a good effect , now he knows he must be great because the aim is on him , although I think he was always great for us .

    I'm sad about the loss of Cannavaro , I mean we surely could have sold him to Real for a lot of money , he was just getting his form back in the end of the season and in the Euro 2004 .

    About the transfer of Brechet to sociedad which got us some money and about the release of Helveg who is even in Norwich the worst player , all I have to say is thank you Mancini Facchetti Oriali and Branca .

    Favalli might no be world class but he sure is better than Brechet .
    Now Ze Maria is a different story , he's awesome ! he has amazing long shots and free kicks and crosses the most into to box in the Serie A , MUCH better than Helveg .

    In midfield we have got great players for free :

    Edgar Davids , a world class DM very aggresive , doesn't give the opponents any space and also has got good crosses and ball control .
    Esteban Cambiasso , a talented and very intelligent midfielder , can be a much better back up than Farinos .

    Juan Veron , a great playmaker with very good anticipation , passes and long shot , is rated as the best midfielder in the world by some famous managers .

    For the LW position we got our very talented Mario Rebecchi as a back up and kept Kily .
    Kily might have not lived up to the expectations in his first season , but he was not played in his position , instead he was played as a LWB , parallel to Capitano , in Mancini's system the LW is very offensive and dangerous so expect the real Kily to star .

    We also got rid of Buruk Okan who agreed to tear his contract so we don't have to pay his wages .


    In attack we have sold a good player who we do not need , Mohammed Kallon for 5 million euro , a good deal .
    We got a greek player called Lambros Choutos , his objective is still unknown , he might be used as a part of a deal .

    Loan deals have been very good to us , we got Juan Veron who I mentioned earlier and we got rid of unneeded players who were probably also damaging the club atmosphere because they didn't get to play :
    Nicola Ventola and Gonzalo Sorondo to Crystal Palace , Sabri Lamouchi to Genoa , Francisco Farinos to Mallorca , Stephane Dalmat to Toulouse .


    We also loaned out some youngsters :
    Mathieu Moreau and Fabrizio Biava are now with their old Primavera coach Corrado Verdelli in Ternana ,while Alessandro Potenza and Ianis Zicu stay in Parma for another season .

    And last but not least , the manager :

    We have released Alberto Zaccheroni , an old styled manager with pathetic defensive abilities IMO and we got Roberto Mancini , a modern manager like Arsene Wenger for example who likes to play dynamic spectacular football and to win with style , the difference is , Cuper or Zac are managers who try not to lose while Mancini is the type of manager who will go for the win at any price .


    The main idea is , we are a much stronger , more united and probably consistent team , just look at the difference :

    In Out
    Favalli Brechet stronger
    Ze Maria Helveg much stronger
    Cambiasso Farinos stronger
    Davids Almeyda much stronger
    Veron Okan much stronger
    Burdisso Cannavaro weaker
    Mihajlovic Adani a little bit weaker
    Choutos Kallon weaker
    Rebecchi
    Beati in the team Lamouchi the same
    Mancini Zac stronger



    Choutos and Mihajlovic will probably not play a lot anyway so the difference is very small , Burdisso is great and yound , while we sold Juve a 31 old defender who suffers from a very bad injury .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javier Zanetti
    Well I'm happy with our market , only a shame we spoiled it on the last day .

    Don't forget we spent a lot of money in the winter for two players who give the impression of our two BEST players .

    Wer'e safe in goal , the great Toldo is in good form and we have Cordaz and Fontana(Carini will probably be loaned) .

    However I don't belive Carini will ever be our first goalkeeper , I think and hope we will get Timo Hildebrand or Sebastien Frey next season .
    In the defence we got ourselves a great defender with Burdisso , trust me .

    We got Mihajlovic who was in the first 11 for Lazio , so he is probably good enough to be a back up after Materazzi Cordoba Burdisso and Gamarra .

    It's a shame we have released Adani , a good solid defender who has passion for Inter .

    To have released Gamarra might have a good effect , now he knows he must be great because the aim is on him , although I think he was always great for us .

    I'm sad about the loss of Cannavaro , I mean we surely could have sold him to Real for a lot of money , he was just getting his form back in the end of the season and in the Euro 2004 .

    About the transfer of Brechet to sociedad which got us some money and about the release of Helveg who is even in Norwich the worst player , all I have to say is thank you Mancini Facchetti Oriali and Branca .

    Favalli might no be world class but he sure is better than Brechet .
    Now Ze Maria is a different story , he's awesome ! he has amazing long shots and free kicks and crosses the most into to box in the Serie A , MUCH better than Helveg .

    In midfield we have got great players for free :

    Edgar Davids , a world class DM very aggresive , doesn't give the opponents any space and also has got good crosses and ball control .
    Esteban Cambiasso , a talented and very intelligent midfielder , can be a much better back up than Farinos .

    Juan Veron , a great playmaker with very good anticipation , passes and long shot , is rated as the best midfielder in the world by some famous managers .

    For the LW position we got our very talented Mario Rebecchi as a back up and kept Kily .
    Kily might have not lived up to the expectations in his first season , but he was not played in his position , instead he was played as a LWB , parallel to Capitano , in Mancini's system the LW is very offensive and dangerous so expect the real Kily to star .

    We also got rid of Buruk Okan who agreed to tear his contract so we don't have to pay his wages .


    In attack we have sold a good player who we do not need , Mohammed Kallon for 5 million euro , a good deal .
    We got a greek player called Lambros Choutos , his objective is still unknown , he might be used as a part of a deal .

    Loan deals have been very good to us , we got Juan Veron who I mentioned earlier and we got rid of unneeded players who were probably also damaging the club atmosphere because they didn't get to play :
    Nicola Ventola and Gonzalo Sorondo to Crystal Palace , Sabri Lamouchi to Genoa , Francisco Farinos to Mallorca , Stephane Dalmat to Toulouse .


    We also loaned out some youngsters :
    Mathieu Moreau and Fabrizio Biava are now with their old Primavera coach Corrado Verdelli in Ternana ,while Alessandro Potenza and Ianis Zicu stay in Parma for another season .

    And last but not least , the manager :

    We have released Alberto Zaccheroni , an old styled manager with pathetic defensive abilities IMO and we got Roberto Mancini , a modern manager like Arsene Wenger for example who likes to play dynamic spectacular football and to win with style , the difference is , Cuper or Zac are managers who try not to lose while Mancini is the type of manager who will go for the win at any price .


    The main idea is , we are a much stronger , more united and probably consistent team , just look at the difference :

    In Out
    Favalli Brechet stronger
    Ze Maria Helveg much stronger
    Cambiasso Farinos stronger
    Davids Almeyda much stronger
    Veron Okan much stronger
    Burdisso Cannavaro weaker
    Mihajlovic Adani a little bit weaker
    Choutos Kallon weaker
    Rebecchi
    Beati in the team Lamouchi the same
    Mancini Zac stronger



    Choutos and Mihajlovic will probably not play a lot anyway so the difference is very small , Burdisso is great and yound , while we sold Juve a 31 old defender who suffers from a very bad injury .
    Superb analysis...couldn't agree more .

    What i like about our Transfer plan this year that we offloaded the garbage that weren't used or not in a calibre of Inter like Helveg , Brechet , Okan , Lamouchi and Farinos and that we also Kept Vieri , Vdm (that i like ) and kily whom i expect to have a good season next year , not only this but the adding of DAvids , Veron , Burdisso , Ze maria was like a dream for me .

    We also got rid of Dalmat who i used to like , sorondo , ventola , kallon However what i don't like is the departure of Canna and Adani but i acceped it already so Good Job Inter .

    The best thing is that We acquired a hell of a great , young Coach in Mancio who will change alot of things in Inter , Pace , one touch football , ambition , winning mentality , spectacular display with entertainment something that i really lacked and got offended when they used to call Inter the most boring club who wins by luck at Cuper's Days not only this but Consistency of the team as for the manager whom i expect to return to Inter to Il Grande inter and remain for inter for a minimum of 3 years .
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    I agree on the moste of your point, we have made some awesome signings, and we have done it for for very few money. But still some of our signings where unesecary. And still some of the player I would have preferd some younger players, who allredy have proved there worth.

    And I don't agree that Veron was a good signing, he is one of the players who we didn't need. As you all now we have one of the biggest AM talents in the world, so there were absalutly no reason to bring Veron to the club.

    Maybe Ze Maria, Favalli and Davids are good signings but there are all over 30 years. They can't last forever. I would wish that the manegment could see more then 2 year ahead. Then they would realise that we will have to buy a total new team again in a 2 years time...If we have braught in some young players, then we didn't need to buy many players the next 5 to 6 years.

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    So in other words you rather have talented Emre to maybe shine than Veron who has bigger chance of shining?
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    Yep..You got that right...And there is just a big posability that Emre will shine to use your word then Veron, remember that Veron have played like crap, actualy that is to good a word. the last 3 years. Wheil Emre has not. Can you remember the 02-03 season he was our best midfielder. and he was only 21-22 at that time.

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    Youre forgetting how he played recently with those fitness problems. But hey without those Im with you.

    In fact I was sceptical about getting Veron. I only rated it 5/10 but it seems we can change that to 10/10. IMO.
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    He should soon be over that...

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    Lets hope so.
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    It's easy to rate our summer now:

    Veron: neutral
    Davids: -
    Burdisso: neural
    Favalli: neutral
    Cambiasso: +
    Ze Maria: +
    Choutos: --
    Mihajlovic: --

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    Quote Originally Posted by oba
    It's easy to rate our summer now:

    Veron: neutral
    Davids: -
    Burdisso: neural
    Favalli: neutral
    Cambiasso: +
    Ze Maria: +
    Choutos: --
    Mihajlovic: --
    And in my view it would be something like this:

    Veron: Good (Not that good, but not bad either)
    Davids: Neutral (He hasn't been given that much chances yet)
    Burdisso: V.Good (The way he has performed in few games)
    Favalli: Good
    Cambiasso: V.Good (Uptil now, he is doing very well. Lets see how the seaoson ends for him)
    Ze Maria: Good
    Choutos: Bad, coz we didn't need him.
    Mihajlovic: Bad, coz same as above


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    Veron: I have been impressed - and he can still improve
    Davids: - Neutral
    Burdisso: Very good,very impressive and he could be a great...
    Favalli: Decent and solid - nothing more
    Cambiasso: Read Burdisso
    Ze Maria: He has played well and badly
    Choutos: - No comment
    Mihajlovic: - Back up and nothing else!

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    Veron: He's been more bad than good. We have to demand more from player who is supposed to be our game's brains. In addition, stupid to base our game on loan player.
    Davids: Hasn't got so much chances but has been far from good when have played.
    Burdisso: So far has been quite good, secure central defender.
    Favalli: Decent.
    Cambiasso: This guy is very good though playing with Veron is still occasionaly hard for him defensively.
    Ze Maria: Quite good and versatile in right flank.
    Choutos: Haven't seen him.
    Mihajlovic: Hasn't played much. Too slow. Good set-pieces, far better than Veron's for example.

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    Burdisso
    Favalli (undecided)
    Cambiasso
    Davids
    Veron
    Choutos (we dont know the plans)
    Mihajlovic
    Ze Maria
    Carini (undecided)
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