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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex de Large View Post
    After Leonard, Cousins was the best FA available and he signed with Lakers.


    Rondo - Green - LeBron - Davis - Cousins
    Cook, Caldwell-Pope, Kuzma & McGee for rotation.
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    Would be better with a PG who can shoot 3's, but it's a very decent team. Battle in the West between Clipps, Lakers and GSW can be epic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rfU View Post
    No one wants to play with LeBron.
    I don't think thats true, in Miami he had players who wanted to play with him, same with Cleveland then he fell out with Kyrie, last year they should have signed better players but this year they got AD and all these people they just signed. All those players at one point sometimes train together and generally its just media and fans talk about them not wanting to play together.

    I think he choose the Clippers prob because he thought they would have a better team around him, a top coach in Doc and most importantly he would be the main superstar on that franchise with the chance to bring them their first championship plus it would help his brand as being kind like the underdog or the future Laker killer or some marketing bullshit they will figure out.

    Also the prob marks the end of GS for now, at least until Klay comes back and they trade for 2 other players, right now they have no defense to speak of.

    I think he meant a starting PG, but with Rondo on the floor you get better passing and a better fit with AD and Cousins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I. View Post
    I think he choose the Clippers prob because he thought they would have a better team around him, a top coach in Doc and most importantly he would be the main superstar on that franchise with the chance to bring them their first championship plus it would help his brand as being kind like the underdog or the future Laker killer or some marketing bullshit they will figure out.

    Also the prob marks the end of GS for now, at least until Klay comes back and they trade for 2 other players, right now they have no defense to speak of.
    Like you said i think a big reason he chose the clippers is that he s gone be the main guy and he saw what that was like in toronto the did anything for him to get fit again, and they left him decide when he was ready to come back compare that to the situation he had at the spurs where he probably was the best player but not the main guy. Now i m sure he did not want that to happen again and at the lakers he was never gonna be the main guy with lebron there even if he is the better player atm.

    On the warriors while they are not the favourites i still have them at number 4 in the west lets not forget they swiped the western finals without KD and klay will probably be back in Feb and fully fit by the time the playoffs come. They took a gamble with d angelo but while their defence is gonna suffer him curry and klay could be spectacular on the offense thats a big could though. Plus i think cauley stein was a very good signing and he s defensive sound and better than cousins on that side.

    Imho the Clippers are clear favourites now just think about their defence basically the whole starting 5 are gonna be lock down defenders which is scary.
    It s a similar situation Kawhi had in toronto pretty deep and quality team around him and i personally think the cast the clippers have surrounding kawhi is even stronger then what he had at toronto.
    Lakers are number two in my books made some good signings but we still have to see how it all works out and if they do click.
    Then imho it s the nuggets Jokic is spectacular and he s only gonna become stronger.

    One things for sure were gonna have a very exciting season with a lot of strong teams but none of them look unbeatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I. View Post
    I don't think thats true, in Miami he had players who wanted to play with him, same with Cleveland then he fell out with Kyrie, last year they should have signed better players but this year they got AD and all these people they just signed. All those players at one point sometimes train together and generally its just media and fans talk about them not wanting to play together.

    I think he choose the Clippers prob because he thought they would have a better team around him, a top coach in Doc and most importantly he would be the main superstar on that franchise with the chance to bring them their first championship plus it would help his brand as being kind like the underdog or the future Laker killer or some marketing bullshit they will figure out.

    Also the prob marks the end of GS for now, at least until Klay comes back and they trade for 2 other players, right now they have no defense to speak of.

    I think he meant a starting PG, but with Rondo on the floor you get better passing and a better fit with AD and Cousins.
    It's not about being the main superstar as Kawhi isn't comfortable in the spotlight. In anycase he's kind of selfless bascially the opposite of Kobe. I don't think he'd have a problem playing with LeBron its just the kind of attention Lebron gets and no matter what Lebron says, it would be LeBron's team. Kawhi is about forming his own legacy (and not enhancing LeBrons) and as you said Clippers is the best place for that to happen.

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    Harden/CP were in constant conflict over Harden ball hogging.
    CP is an asshole.But he's right, Harden's style is hurting the Rockets. Its work in the regular season but is detrimental in the playoffs.
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    my sister got an autograph from Doncic,dude was chilling in a bar on the island of Krk,Croatia,I've been to that bar 1000x times ,shame I wasn't there...oh well

    oh and...best rookie in NBA

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    Russell Westbrook traded to the Rockets for Chris Paul and draft picks... I’m a Rockets fan and don’t necessarily like the fit, in terms of actually winning a ring, but damn the Rockets finesse the Thunder yet AGAIN. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iThrowRocksAtBlindKids View Post
    Russell Westbrook traded to the Rockets for Chris Paul and draft picks... I’m a Rockets fan and don’t necessarily like the fit, in terms of actually winning a ring, but damn the Rockets finesse the Thunder yet AGAIN. Wow.
    Russell Westbrook isn't good. He's a point guard who can't shoot who puts up numbers because his usage rate is off the charts. There was no market for him because teams aren't dumb enough to pay $30 million a year for 4 more years to 31 year old point guard without a jump shot.

    Westbrook is entertaining. He's the type of player you turn on a game to watch. But he's not the type of player you can build a championship team around. Him and Harden are perfect for each other.

    Paul will get bought out or flipped to the Lakers, I presume.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    Russell Westbrook isn't good. He's a point guard who can't shoot who puts up numbers because his usage rate is off the charts. There was no market for him because teams aren't dumb enough to pay $30 million a year for 4 more years to 31 year old point guard without a jump shot.

    Westbrook is entertaining. He's the type of player you turn on a game to watch. But he's not the type of player you can build a championship team around. Him and Harden are perfect for each other.

    Paul will get bought out or flipped to the Lakers, I presume.
    Like I said, not too crazy about the fit...but hey Westbrook>>34 year old declining Paul. Just finding someone to take Paul’s horrific contract is a major win for the Rockets. The regular season will be fun to watch for Houston...not expecting a parade at the end of the year tho.

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    Kinda pissed off the Raptors didn't pick Tacko Fall. I get the injury concerns, but this dude looks like the new Shaq. The Celtics were smart.

    Just checked. His standing reach is higher than the rim
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRossi View Post
    Russell Westbrook isn't good. He's a point guard who can't shoot who puts up numbers because his usage rate is off the charts. There was no market for him because teams aren't dumb enough to pay $30 million a year for 4 more years to 31 year old point guard without a jump shot.

    Westbrook is entertaining. He's the type of player you turn on a game to watch. But he's not the type of player you can build a championship team around. Him and Harden are perfect for each other.
    This could work actually, they've been homies since they were kids, Russ trusts Harden and knows its his team. Both will adapt to the situation. at the very least it will be entertaining.
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    Looking at the top scorer for 76ers in the Raptors vs. 76ers series:

    Game 1 - JJ Redick - 17 pts
    Game 2 - Jimmy Butler - 30 pts
    Game 3 - Embiid - 33 pts
    Game 4 - Jimmy Butler - 29 pts
    Game 5 - Jimmy Butler - 22 pts
    Game 6 - Jimmy Butler - 25 pts
    Game 7 - Embiid - 25 pts

    In 5/7 games the leading scorers were either Butler or JJ Redick, who both left. But these bookies have 76ers as the overwhelming favourites over the Raptors. You realize the Raptors were the #1 seed without Kawhi last season? They had a better record during the season without Kawhi, than with him.

    You can make the case for superstars during key playoff moments. But during the regular season? The Raptors beat the Warriors at Oracle by 20 points without Kawhi and they had all 3 of Klay/Steph/KD during the regular season.
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    Had to be an Inter fan and a Bulls fan

    Kruse/Reinsdorf in so many ways remind me of Moratti. Surrounded themselves with ass kissers and yes men and let a good thing fall apart in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfU View Post


    Had to be an Inter fan and a Bulls fan

    Kruse/Reinsdorf in so many ways remind me of Moratti. Surrounded themselves with ass kissers and yes men and let a good thing fall apart in the end.
    LOL same here!!
    I stil wonder what would have happened if phil jackson would not have gotten replaced!! More likely than not jordan would have kept playing and the rings would have kept on coming till Kobe and Shaq would have been able to dethrone the bulls.

    Anyways while i still think that phill jackson decision was probably the worst in sports ever, i also think the bulls did have some bad luck in the years after that.
    I mean derrick fucking Rose was a monster before the injury and i m pretty sure that he would have been capable to lead them to a title. One might say that was also due to a stupid mgm decision as there was no reason for rose to be out there in a first round playoff game in the 4th in a game that was already won! Imho if it was not for that injury rose would be an all time great and not just a great squad player and if he had not lead the bulls to a ring i m sure he would have lead them to a couple of conference finals.

    Similar things can be said about buttler even though he never was on the level of rose and there i think it was more of a mgm failure to not build a decent team around him.

    Anyways this year might actually end up being a positive year for the bulls their 2 games back of a playoff spot and lets be honest here we all laughed when lavine said they d get a playoff spot this year.

    Also zach fucking lavine finally seems to be in the right spot and have the right mindset. Love em sine his T wolves days and though him KAT and wiggins are gonna be the future of the league. He s got such a nice skill set he can do it all maybe he s not good enough to be the number one guy in a contender but he sure as hell is good enough to be that second guy, Now once again it s up to the front office to complete the team and maybe we have a contender in 2/3 years time? I would not bet on it though just saying it has looked way worse for bulls fans then this season.

    On the knicks what can i say other than LOL, probably the worst run franchise in sports history and yes way worse the moratti or even thohir lead inter.
    I m actually surprised that they did not end up overspending on a average player once they missed out on KD/kyrie like they did in the past. On might argue that they are overpaying for randle and portis but randle is a quite good player imho and portis well his on his last year.

    But i would love to see what the fuck is going on in Knicks board meetings and how they decide their strategies cause for once it looked like they we re focused coming into last years free agency they did everything they needed to do to free up cap space and once again they fucked it all up and ended up all over the place. Even the KP trade looks terrible now.
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    Phil Jackson had quit on the Bulls. Sure, there was a long dispute with that Krause character, but he had decided to quit as well. He only stayed in 1997 because the players asked him to.

    The problem was the lock out. He had announced it before the lockout and the Bulls were stuck in limbo. He actually "retired" I think, so it was even funnier.

    Michael Jordan was like if the season won't take place (for those who don't know or remember, just a couple of years back the entire baseball season was cancelled for the same reason) and Phil isn't around, he might as well retire.

    Had Phil Jackson delayed his decision until after the season restarted, we may have still seen Michael Jordan around without Phil, assuming he'd approve the new coach.

    Phil Jackson was then between Los Angeles and New York. The Knicks were the surprise Eastern Conference champions as an 8 seed and that was the beginning of the end. Within 2 seasons they had traded Ewing away and offered Allan Houston that big deal that put the franchise in ruins after he got injured since it held so much cap space. Phil was also lucky because that's also when James Dolan came into the picture, the man synonomous with sporting incompetence. How those NHL Rangers managed to win silverware is remarkable, probably because he never pretended to know about hockey

    And Phli Jackson went to coach the struggling Lakers that had a frustrated Shaq and a young Kobe.

    If Phil had chosen New York in 1999 I'm pretty sure everyone agrees history would have been a lot different. I'm guessing Shaq would have been traded somewhere to the Eastern Conference, possibly the Knicks with Phil themselves. The Heat had Mourning so it was either a trade around him while the other options would have been the Pacers (with no real trading assets) and Philadelphia (so Shaq + Iverson both at their peak!). And Los Angeles would have been in rebuilding mode or struggling to secure a playoff spot with a frustrating Kobe that wasn't tamed by Phil yet.


    Being a Knicks fan gives you a whole lot perspective during this 20 year period Almost everything that could go wrong, went wrong. With the last straw being that Amnesty on Billups' contract followed by Amare's injury. At some point you cannot even be mad about giving Kristaps away, it'd be a sad story for the kid in NY
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