World Basketball Championship 2010
Anyone gonna watch this one?
Starts on August 29, but since most leagues have ended I figured we could have a thread about it.
Very interested, as always, to see who the USA will send.
Greece does not seem very strong this time for me but the talent is definitely there. Some important players might not be there, like Diamantidis and Tsartsaris.
Lithuania has good players in the European stage (Jasikevicius who might play at age 34, Kleiza, the Lavrinovic brothers, Siskauskas,
Russia has Kirilenko(will he play?) but I'm not sure whether he can alone lead them to a good position.
Spain are the best European team so I'd expect at least semis from them. Gasol brothers, Rudy Fernandez, Jose Calderon, Juan Navarro, Ricky Rubio & co are really phenomenal players, They can feed Pau Gasol under the basket, or fire 3pts for fun, as well as do the basics(drive, pick and roll). They make it seem so easy, it's delightful.
Argentina has good players, but I doubt they'll go further than last 8. Luis Scola, Manu Ginobili, Pablo Prigioni, Andres Nocioni, Carlos Delfino... I really like them.
Germany is a man one team as usual, but sometimes he's too good for opposition(Dirk Nowitzki)
France is a very athletic team, maybe you could call them a less talented, European USA team. Tony Parker and many other NBA stars are part of this team. I would really want to see them Vs the USA and vs Spain. Would be amazing games. I will probably bet on them to win this thing.
Serbia has been in a decline and I hope they manage something good this year. I'd consider Velickovic and Tripkovic their best players, with Tepic and Teodosic able to become great for a night or two, but they are not consistent players. There's also Krstic who plays in the NBA but I haven't seen him.
Turkey is the host nation, so I wouldn't write them off. Would not be surprised to see them in the last 4. There's Ilyasova and Turkoglu who are NBA players, the rest are nothing special, not even in Europe, but home ground can be helpful, considering that the Turks create some scary atmosphere.
From wiki, this is the preliminary USA roster: (in bold my choices/thoughts)
LaMarcus Aldridge Portland Trail Blazers
Carmelo Anthony Denver Nuggets
Chris Bosh Toronto Raptors
Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
Chauncey Billups Denver Nuggets
Carlos Boozer Utah Jazz
Kevin Durant Oklahoma City Thunder
Rudy Gay Memphis Grizzlies
Eric Gordon Los Angeles Clippers
Danny Granger Indiana Pacers
Dwight Howard Orlando Magic
Andre Iguodala Philadelphia 76ers
LeBron James Cleveland Cavaliers
Al Jefferson Minnesota Timberwolves
David Lee New York Knicks
Brook Lopez New Jersey Nets
Kevin Love Minnesota Timberwolves
O.J. Mayo Memphis Grizzlies
Lamar Odom Los Angeles Lakers
Chris Paul New Orleans Hornets
Kendrick Perkins Boston Celtics
Derrick Rose Chicago Bulls
Tayshaun Prince Detroit Pistons
Stephen Curry Golden State Warriors
Tyreke Evans Sacramento Kings
Amare Stoudemire Phoenix Suns
Dwyane Wade Miami Heat
Gerald Wallace Charlotte Bobcats
Russell Westbrook Oklahoma City Thunder
Deron Williams Utah Jazz
That's just somehow what I expect. Maybe a bit more balanced than that though.
Four teams qualify from each group, A crosses with B, C crosses with D, 1st-4th, 2nd-3rd.
Expect a hard fought race for 2nd place in Group B between Brazil (Varejao, Nene, Splitter, Barbosa), Slovenia(Dragic, Brezec, Smodis, Lakovic, E.Lorbek) and Croatia(no superstar but ex-Yugo nations are always tough)
Group A seems very very balanced but I see one of Germany and Serbia facing the USA in next round.
Group C is quite weak, but there are some good one-player teams there(China, Russia). It will be interesting to see personal stats there eg Pts, rebounds etc
I will try not to miss a sinlge Group D game. One of the best groups ever! France vs Spain will be a classic game, Lithuania is tough and if Steve Nash plays for Canada it will be sweet.
Will be a heck of a World championship!!!
( I hope I'm not the only one who will follow it!!!)
Last edited by brehme1989; 04 Aug 10 at 15:15.
I sound like an eeijit but is FIBA beach football?
Originally Posted by Irish_Interista
Kobe Bryant and LeBron James are mentioned in the post and you think it is Beach Football??
Well to be fair I skipped all the bits about countries and thought all that was linked to the country above.
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I heard that Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki and Yao Ming will not participate. That would be a big blow. Also heard about either Varejao or Nene from Brazil that won't participate and from Argentina Manu Ginobili. It will be interesting, but maybe not entertaining as one would expect...
As for the USA, whoever they send, they will be medal contenders, so we don't care that much
Anyone knows when the USA team will be announced?
not sure when,but i heard lebron isn't going
Originally Posted by Yuko
Lebron and Kobe are not going... Pao Gasol has pulled out of the Spain squad aswell.
I want to see at least Carmelo, Wade, Chris Paul, Bosh, Brook Lopez and Kevin Durant in the USA team. Deron Williams would be great as well
No Italy in this tournament?
Nope. They are not good enough and Germany and Russia got the wildcard invitations from Europe as far as I know
Saw complaints for the "draw".
There's no way USA and Spain will meet eachother before the final, assuming that both receive 1st spot in their groups. Greece will meet the USA in the qf if they do not win the group. Turkey has a pretty easy route as well(hosts)
Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos)
Kostas Tsartsaris (Panathinaikos)
Antonis Fotsis (Panathinaikos)
Vasilis Spanoulis (Panathinaikos)
Nick Calathes (Panathinaikos)
Stratos Perperoglou (Panathinaikos)
Giorgos Printezis (Malaga)
Sofoklis Schortsianitis (Olympiakos)
Giannis Bourousis (Olympiakos)
Loukas Mavrokefalidis (Olympiakos)
Panagiotis Vasilopoulos (Olympiakos)
Kostas Papanikolaou (Olympiakos)
Nikos Zisis (Siena)
Kostas Vasiliadis (Obradoiro)
Kostas Kaimakoglou (Marousi)
Ian Vougioukas (Panellinios)
Nikos Pappas (Kolossos)
Can't understand how Vasilopoulos was called up. Hasn't played regularly for 8 months, while there's the option of Pelekanos (Marousi, former Real Madrid)
Expected most used players:
That's 3 guards, 1 (power) forward and one center. The usual Greek set, copied by Panathinaikos of course
Will be fun to watch Turkey-Greece game in Turkey. :p Our basketball team is currently weaker than ever though..
This group is going to be interesting.
I dont know yet is Russia is bringing their A team, nor Greece.. China is probably without their best player ever in Yao Ming and Turkey will be w/o Okur... Ivory Coast I really dont know them... Puerto Rico probably will be with all its players.
And since Im from PR this is Puerto Rico's preliminary squad
Carlos Arroyo - Miami Heat (NBA)
JJ Barea - Dallas Mavericks (NBA)
Renaldo Balckman - Denver Nuggets (NBA)
Daniel Santiago - Capitanes de Arecibo (PUR)
Angelo Reyes - Capitanes de Arecibo (PUR)
Guillermo Diaz - Capitanes de Arecibo (PUR)
Larry Ayuso - Capitanes de Arecibo (PUR)
PJ Ramos - Piratas de Quebradillas (PUR)
Ricky Sanchez - Cangrejeros de Santurce (PUR)
Luis Villafane - Cangrejeros Santurce (PUR)
Filiberto Rivera - Gallitos de Isabela - (PUR)
Angel D. Vasallo - Gallitos de Isabela - (PUR)
Denis Clemente - Kansas State Wildcats (NCAA)
Carmelo Lee - Vaqueros de Bayamon (PUR)
Nathan Peavy - Vaqueros de bayamon (PUR)
Javier Mojica - Vaqueros de bayamon (PUR)
Most of them have played in european leagues, Larry Ayuso, Angel Vasallo, PJ Ramos, Guilermo Diaz, Daniel Santiago, Filiberto Rivera... And on international play so they have experience...
I think that they can play with anybody in their group... the thoughest games will be agaisnt the 3 europeans, and I think we can win all 3...
So lets start talking about predictions for this world championship...
who wins group A? B? C? D?
Final 8? 4?
Below are the groups so you know which countries are playing...
Guard Engin Atsür Beşiktaş Cola Turka
Guard Ender Arslan Efes Pilsen
Guard Kerem Tunçeri Efes Pilsen
Guard Sinan Güler Efes Pilsen
Guard Evren Büker Galatasaray Café Crown
Guard Ömer Onan Fenerbahçe Ülker
Forward Cenk Akyol Air Avellino
Forward Ersan İlyasova Milwaukee Bucks
Forward Hidayet Türkoğlu Toronto Raptors
Forward Cevher Özer Beşiktaş Cola Turka
Forward Kerem Gönlüm Efes Pilsen
Center Fatih Solak Galatasaray Café Crown
Center Oğuz Savaş Fenerbahçe Ülker
Center Ömer Aşık Fenerbahçe Ülker
Center Semih Erden Fenerbahçe Ülker
High expectations on Serbia, Brazil and France. (meaning they will play well, not advance till semis or something)
A major disadvantage is that most top players will not participate.
Group D seems much more interesting that Group C tbf.
Lithuania, Spain and France will have amazing games between them. Probably Spain and France will thrash the other three teams, but still it will have the best games of the group stage.
Don't like Group A's competitiveness, but I am looking forward to watch Argentina in action.
Group C has the USA, and there's Brazil and Slovenia to battle for 2nd place. Not a balanced group at all.
Group B has fine games, but China without Yao is just bad. Puerto Rico always has good players, but I think it's been a while since they last did something good in such a tournament. Nobody really knows the Ivorian team, Greece and Turkey should qualify, and it will be up to Russia's roster if this is gonna be the best group. If it includes Kirilenko, games vs Greece & Turkey will be fun to watch. If he does not show up, it will be good games, but Russians will be the underdogs.
Top 4 spots from each group:
C4 Puerto Rico
As i said, Turkish Basketball team at its weakest time at the moment. My hopes are very low and it would surprise me so much if we reach last 4. However, we will have a big supporter advantage and you know, Turkey is famous for it.. It might lead the team a bit further but still, i'm very pessimistic about this tournament.
No matter what it will be nice to watch as always.
TOP 4 in each Group
3. Puerto Rico
I think Group B 2-4 and C 1-3 would be placed through goal average...
A1 vs B4 (Argentina vs Croatia)
D2 vs C3 (France vs Puerto Rico)
C1 vs D4 (Greece vs Canada)
B2 vs A3 (Slovenia vs Germany)
B1 vs A4 (USA vs Serbia)
C2 vs D3 (Turkey vs Lithuania)
D1 vs C4 (Spain vs Russia)
A2 vs B3 (Australia vs Brazil)
Honestly I think we have a pretty good chance against France... I also think Croatia can shock Argentina(not that It'll happen but...) Also Greece, Slovenia, USA, Turkey, Spain and Brazil wins)