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    Scottish Premier League 2011/2012

    The SPL starts in 5 days. Ok, so i know that like none of you probably watch or give a shit about Scottish football, but since there are many other treads for euro leagues I felt like creating this thread.

    2010/2011 Review

    If any observer of Scottish football tells you it's been just another season, they're lying.
    We’ve had match officials lying, referees going on strike, seven Old Firm games, a manager who has been sent parcel bombs and then been victim of an attempted assault on the touchline.
    Rumour has it there was also some football in amongst the chaos, however if you ask anyone what the one most memorable episode of the season was, they'd reply - without thinking - the referees going on strike.

    It was certainly as surreal a moment as I have ever encountered in my years watching Scottish football and even now it’s hard to believe it all actually happened.
    All referees took part in a strike protesting the constant and at times vitriolic criticism they received.
    What did undermine them, it has to be said, was the actions of Dougie McDonald, the referee of the match between Dundee United and Celtic in October, who lied over who denied Celtic's Gary Hooper a penalty.
    After initially awarding the spot kick, he immediately changed his mind, but sought the opinion of linesman Steven Craven.
    Instead of coming clean to Celtic manager Neil Lennon in admitting his own uncertainties over the incident, he claimed Craven heavily influenced the call and the confusion soon led to Craven quitting after claiming the SFA were hanging him out to dry.
    McDonald returned, but with his admission that he indeed lied hanging over him, soon retired as well, while referee's boss Hugh Dallas was sacked over a separate incident involving an offensive email.

    As if it wasn't bizarre enough seeing foreign refs taking charge of Scottish top-flight matches, there was the apparent persecution of Celtic manager Neil Lennon as the subject of bullets sent in the post and more worryingly, a parcel bomb.
    It certainly heightened sectarianism in the West of Scotland as fans of the Old Firm became more aggravated during the course of the season.
    Lennon wasn’t the only target in this hate campaign, with fellow Northern Irishmen Niall McGinn and Paddy McCourt also sent bullets in the mail, while top QC Paul McBride - who defended Celtic and Lennon in a row over a touchline ban, and former MSP Trish Godman were also sent parcel bombs.
    Tensions are running very high between Celtic and Rangers fans at the moment.
    Certain sections of the media in Scotland may have tried to ignore it, and it wasn’t until UEFA punished Rangers for sectarian offences during the two legs of their Europa League match with PSV Eindhoven that the issue was widely discussed.
    To some, Rangers’ punishment of an away match ban for fans with the threat of another on a probationary period of three years as well as a fine of €40,000 (over 35,500) wasn’t enough considering their previous when it comes to such offences.
    The club claimed they were being persecuted and accused FARE (Football Against Racism Europe) of having some kind of agenda, questioning the evidence supplied to UEFA. The bottom line is the inherent problem Rangers have are still there and still need dealing with.

    This season has also been blighted by the constant meddling of the SPL, who have been trying to tell Scottish football how the game should be run from the top down. Ideas bandied included a ten-team SPL, a British League Cup, and the curious prospect of a Winter Tournament in Dubai – all of which were highly imaginative, but not entirely popular.
    It followed hot on the heels of a two-part proposed reform by former First Minister Henry McLeish, commissioned by the SFA to try and improve the game from the grassroots up, which proposed heavy funding from the Scottish Government be invested in youth initiatives.
    The SPL were prioritising their own financial gain and hoping everybody else would fall in line. A fans’ survey revealed 88% were dead against a ten-team top flight, yet chief executive Neil Doncaster continued to try and sell it as “the only viable option” - code for “we still need four Old Firm and Edinburgh derbies to sell to the TV companies.”
    The move for change has stalled for now, with clubs against the proposed ten-team set-up so there will have to be some kind of rethink in terms of how Scottish football can move forward.

    Five other things that happened in Scottish football last season

    1) This was also the season of the touchline rammy. There was Neil Lennon vs Ally McCoist at Celtic Park after a Scottish Cup replay, which was only resolved following a summit involving politicians, police and the clubs. Then there was Motherwell chairman John Boyle versus former manager Craig Brown at Fir Park. As yet, there’s still no date for the summit for that one…

    2) Craig Levein took Scotland into his first ever qualifying campaign looked set to start in humiliation, with Scotland being held by Liechtenstein until Stephen McManus scored a dramatic winner seven minutes into injury time. Then there was the infamous 4-6-0 formation debacle as Scotland lost 1-0 to the Czech Republic in Prague. Bizarrely Levein still claimed the formation “worked”.

    3) The Tartan Army invaded London in March as Scotland lined up to play Brazil in a friendly at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium. The party atmosphere was soured when Brazilian striker Neymar - who scored both goals in the 2-0 victory for the South Americans - claimed he was a victim of racism after a banana was thrown on to the pitch and he was booed by the Scots fans. It soon transpired the banana had, in fact, been thrown by an over-excited German student and the fans were booing the player due to his annoying habit of throwing himself to the ground theatrically.

    4) Dundee going into administration for a second time was another dark moment for Scottish football as they were hammered with a 25-point deduction while players and staff saw their contracts ripped up.

    5) Craig Whyte’s protracted takeover of Rangers after months of legal negotiations dragged months. It was six months before the cheque was written and the paperwork was finally signed, with the fans having lost interest in the saga long before time.

    2011/2012

    The 2011–12 Scottish Premier League will be the fourteenth season of the Scottish Premier League, the highest division of Scottish football, since its inception in 1998. The season is scheduled to commence on 23 July 2011.

    A total of twelve teams will contest the league; eleven currently competing sides and one club promoted from the First Division. The twelve teams have been confirmed for the 2011–12 season, with First Division champions Dunfermline Athletic replacing relegated Hamilton Academical.

    Since Scotland climbed from sixteenth to fifteenth place in the UEFA association coefficient rankings at the end of the 2010–11 season, the league has re-gained an additional third qualifying round berth for the UEFA Champions League.

    2010/2011 League Table:

    1. Rangers (C) 30-3-5 GD.+59 PTS.93
    2. Celtic 29-5-4 GD.+63 PTS.92
    3. Hearts 18-9-11 GD.+8 PTS. 63
    4. Dundee United 17-10-11 GD.+5 PTS. 61
    5. Kilmarnock 13-10-15 GD.-2 PTS. 49
    6. Motherwell 13-7-18 GD.-16 PTS. 69
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    7. Inverness Caledonian Thistle 14-11-13 GD.+7 PTS. 53
    8. St. Johnstone 11-11-16 GD.-20 PTS. 44
    9. Aberdeen 11-5-22 GD.-20 PTS. 38
    10. Hibernian 10-7-21 GD.-22 PTS. 37
    11. St. Mirren 8-9-21 GD.-24 PTS. 33
    12. Hamilton Academical (R) 5-11-22 GD.-35 PTS. 26

    2011/2012 Teams: Aberdeen, Celtic, Dundee United, Dunfermline Athletic, Heart of Midlothian, Hibernian, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, huns, St. Johnstone, St. Mirren

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    Scotland, the Lebanon of Europe.

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    theres a scottish league?

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    Scotland, the Lebanon of Europe.
    I was thinking more ireland...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmore View Post
    WAT.........

    theres a scottish league?

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    I was thinking more ireland...
    Naw that's I-rack.

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    I don't really give a shit about this league.. no offense. Isn't this a league where it's all about Celtic or Rangers? I've heard the rivalry for them can get more ridiculously nasty than ever...

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    Guys keep it civil. Some might want to discuss the league so lets let them have their thread.
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    Interesting season to say the least but it was one that highlighted the problems with Scottish football rather than its quality.
    The treatment of Neil Lennon is a disgrace it has its roots in Religious/Political bigotry and should NEVER be part of Football.

    If one word sums up Scottish Football for me, its got to be PASSION so lets hope for a better season without all the shit that comes with it.

    Oh and Celtic winning a double would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWALFC View Post
    The treatment of Neil Lennon is a disgrace it has its roots in Religious/Political bigotry and should NEVER be part of Football.
    If one word sums up Scottish Football for me, its got to be PASSION so lets hope for a better season without all the shit that comes with it.
    Oh and Celtic winning a double would be nice.
    i love you.

    but yeah, the quality is shocking at the moment in scotland. However, Celtic are putting together a very stong squad, that dare i say could challenge for a europa league. all the main players from last season have returned, with a few nice aditions. namely, Macdonald Mariga's 19yr old brother, Victor Wanayamma . In my unbiased opinion Celtic will be a team to watch in europe this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
    Mon 'e Dons.


    Celtic 9 Aberdeen 0

    Celtic 4 Aberdeen 1

    Celtic 3 Aberdeen 0

    Celtic 4 Aberdeen 0

    Aggrigate For Seasons Aberdeen vs Celtic Matches = 20-1

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    Scotland forever
    RE Scotlands 4-6-0 formation http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/08/euro2008
    Tried it once with a U11 team result 8-1 win, 5 different scorers.
    Two weeks earlier against the same team 4-4-2 with a lucky 4-3 win,1 scorer.
    The scorer of the 4 goals was injured for the latter game hence the switch in formation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWALFC View Post
    Scotland forever
    RE Scotlands 4-6-0 formation http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/08/euro2008
    Tried it once with a U11 team result 8-1 win, 5 different scorers.
    Two weeks earlier against the same team 4-4-2 with a lucky 4-3 win,1 scorer.
    The scorer of the 4 goals was injured for the latter game hence the switch in formation.
    seriously though, it failed so badly for Scotland. We gave an average Czech team waaaaaayyyy to much respect. We had no attack whatsoever.

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    USA MF Alejandro Bedoya to join Rangers -- I may have to be wearing (red, white and) blue this season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadrian View Post
    I may have to be wearing (red, white and) blue this season!

    Studied a term in Edinburgh so I kind of have a soft spot for Hearts, tbh.
    hearts and rangers are friends - both clubs cuntyness know no bounds. fucking hate them.

    anyway, rangers already have maurice edu from the USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBA-GU-BRATH View Post
    hearts and rangers are friends - both clubs cuntyness know no bounds. fucking hate them.

    anyway, rangers already have maurice edu from the USA
    Yea, I hesitate to pick a side in the SPL because I know rivalries run REALLY deep, and I am mostly ignorant to the history of the clubs and their supporters. I am not a true fan of any of the SPL clubs, but keep my eye on 'Gers because of their recent history in signing USA talent.

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    I once heard a funny story concerning a American couple (tourist) who went into the "Jungle" back in the day before seating was introduced.
    Anyway Celtic scores the crowd goes wild,begins to sway and surge and the couple get separated by about 20 feet.
    When it calmed down a bit, above all the noise, this woman was heard screaming in a American accent.
    "John, John, What happened John, Was it a earthquake John "
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWALFC View Post
    I once heard a funny story concerning a American couple (tourist) who went into the "Jungle" back in the day before seating was introduced.
    Anyway Celtic scores the crowd goes wild,begins to sway and surge and the couple get separated by about 20 feet.
    When it calmed down a bit, above all the noise, this woman was heard screaming in a American accent.
    "John, John, What happened John, Was it a earthquake John "
    Hahaha yeah, thats the jungle bhoys for ye.

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