José "The Special One" Mourinho

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As much as I love Mou, changing coaches right now would be a bad idea. If Mou gets fired this weekend, I think he should take a break until summer and work on himself. If Mancio fails until then, we can think of getting Mou in the summer.
 

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Though there is something rich about Jose Mourinho, cherished and handsomely remunerated by BT Sport as its “ambassador”, treating the broadcaster to his “I have nothing to say” interview on Saturday afternoon, Sir Alex Ferguson will understand his determination to close the post-match conversation down. “It’s like getting a wee tear in your jacket. If you don’t get that tear sewn up immediately it will only get worse,” he once said.

But much though Ferguson came to detest the press “jackals” in the end, it is part of the fundamental difference between him and Mourinho that he always knew the supreme value of bad publicity. One of his favoured lines with his players on the day after a bad defeat was: “Are we enjoying the headlines this morning?” It was part of an emotional arc which would begin with him withdrawing himself from the players so completely that they would remark on his black mood and studiously avoid him in the staff canteen, proceed with him taking them back to basics in the week’s training, and conclude with him telling them all the good things he wanted to say about them at the next game’s post-match press conference.

We experienced a form of that arc, too. There could be dog’s abuse for his inquisitors in the post-match half-hour, but Ferguson would generally wear a sunny demeanour when he arrived to talk at 9am the following Friday. The clouds always seemed to have cleared. Even the aftermath of the 6-1 defeat to Manchester City, four years ago, followed that pattern.

The point is that while Mourinho, a man who has known only success in a gilded football life, can only call upon the chaos theory when the going gets tough – of which Saturday’s spectacle after the 3-1 defeat to Liverpool was the latest deeply embarrassing manifestation – Ferguson knew failure and weakness, inside and out, and drew upon what they taught him. He was damaged and defined by Rangers’ decision to offload him to Falkirk in 1969, which is why he was as interested in others’ problems and worries as by their successes – and developed a range of devices to deal with them. “[Eric] Cantona was a very underrated man and an interesting man. He needed the encouragement that he was at the right club,” Ferguson said recently. No coincidence that an entire section of his new book, Leading, co-written with the venture capitalist Michael Moritz, is entitled “Failing”. The fragility of players’ confidence features prominently in that section.

Compare that philosophy with the very compelling testimony on Mourinho provided by Alvaro Arbeloa, in Pete Jenson’s excellent interview with the player on these pages on Saturday. The interview revealed that Mourinho just did not possess the emotional and intellectual range to pick players up off the floor when, by a combination of ego and diminished confidence, they failed to give of their best as Real Madrid’s 2012-13 La Liga title defence began catastrophically. Arbeloa was a member of the Mourinho squad which heard him bizarrely conceding the title after a draw with Espanyol on 16 December. “I spoke with [Mourinho] a lot and Jose is a coach who demands a lot and he doesn’t know any other way than to be that demanding,” Arbeloa told Jenson. “He would say, ‘I’m not able to say, “How’s it going? What’s happening? How do you feel?” to a player who isn’t trying.’ He can’t deal with the situation that the team is not functioning. He didn’t take that at all well.”

The blunt Mourinho managerial instruments we saw back then conform to what he has described as his “confrontational leadership” strategy, since arriving back in London. That’s to say, hammering players like holy hell in public to try to get something out of them. “We have the graphics in our own dressing room,” he said of his Real players after a 1-0 defeat at Sevilla in September 2012. “My problem is that my team at this moment are not here.” That provoked senior players Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos and Gonzalo Higuain to ask for a meeting with Mourinho. He viewed their very request as an act of civil war.

The past two months have conformed to the same strategy – Mourinho looking for the grand gestures to shock something out of the players; humiliating Nemanja Matic on a training ground; randomly dropping individuals; seemingly treating the club doctor Eva Carneiro so despicably by castigating her publicly that Chelsea face the indignity of an employment tribunal; proclaiming himself, before the disastrous Champions League trip to Porto, to be “mentally a serial champion” while questioning whether his squad were. The diversionary gambits – and Saturday’s “I have nothing to say” warrants infinitely more ridicule than Rafa Benitez’s “facts” ever did, but no prizes for guessing whether it actually will – are just one more of the usual levers he is frantically pulling, only to find that nothing is happening.

In Madrid, there was no better manifestation of how Mourinho pounds relationships to death than the iconic image of himself and Cristiano Ronaldo at the mouth of the tunnel after the last game of that 2012-13 campaign, which yielded no silverware. Ronaldo cannot even bring himself to look at the man, which is hardly how he parted ways with Ferguson, who nurtured him. Mourinho left for Chelsea, where footballers who peerlessly delivered him last season’s title are – with the exception of John Terry, Gary Cahill and a few others – now looking at him, hearing what he says about them and thinking, to use a printable form, “Who the hell do you think you are?”

Mourinho would say that he, just like Ferguson, has lived failure in the raw. The decisions of Barcelona and Manchester United to overlook him in 2008 and 2013 respectively are his experiences of life on the dark side. But they belong to the man’s fabricated sense of injustice, rather than anything real and tangible. If this situation, and his reputation, is to be mended, it will take an appreciation from him that struggle, frailty and weakness belong just as much to the management challenge as power, talent and soaring self-belief.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...n-drawing-strength-from-failure-a6717231.html
 

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BREAKING: #CFC's Jose Mourinho to be subject of individual legal claim from former club doctor Eva Carneiro #SSNHQ

:lol:

He's got a one match stadium ban now as well! At this point, I think his backup might be better than him! :lol:
 

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God am sick of hearing about that bitch. If she had a cock and balls no one would give a shit.
 

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If mou just said she sucked at her job, all would've been fine. Instead he criticized her for doing her job when a player called for help. Srsly 'team doctors should learn football tactics?' Its his job to learn it so he either wins, or doesnt get into position to abandon injured players on the field.
 

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hazard didn't ask for help though. she didn't do anything wrong as a doctor but at the same time she works for a football club. it's common for medical teams to make tactical decisions. The other day I was rewatching our win vs Milan when Sneijder was sent off and our medical staff was constantly trying to waste time whenever an Inter player went down. The fact she was demoted has nothing to do with her having a vagina. there is nothing to this story other than carneiro trying to milk as much $$$$ as she can. she made a bad decision at a key moment during the game. if chelsea was in the cl final and the scoreline was 0-0 in the 89th min and they're a man up, and the key player falls down, would she have gone onto the pitch? i dont think so. if she had gone on the pitch, would people be making a meal out of the manager getting upset? nope. why is it different here?

mourinho made far too big a deal out of it though. even if she hadnt come on, i dont think chelsea would have scored and won the game. she shouldnt have done it but mourinho used it as an excuse and demoted her to back it up. she shouldnt have lost her job for that. still, the publicity around it is ridiculous.


i think mourinho needs to calm the fuck down in general. chelsea has a lot of quality so he needs to give his players some space and let them smile and enjoy their football.

older players and people who are willing to sacrifice themselve to the club can take his shit but not younger players or bad characters who dont particularly care about the club or the team. at inter he said to lucio he would kill him if he dribbled up with the ball in the CL final. at real, he said to ronaldo that he needs to defend and hed get pissed at him if valencia scored, then ronaldo went apeshit. thats the difference. the traitor quote is just another example. in a team with people like deki, jz, cuchu, lucio, julio, maic, milito, etoo, wes, motta, chivu, cordoba, matrix, you would never hear that shit.
 
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http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...ee-michael-oliver-to-treat-eden-a2487291.html
Yet footage shows that in the moments before the Chelsea medical team entered the field of play the referee Oliver twice turned to the bench after Hazard went down, following a challenge from Gylfi Sigurdsson, and signalled for the pair to come on. If Carneiro was to take her case further then Oliver’s intervention in the sequence of events would be a powerful piece of evidence on her behalf.

Under the General Medical Council good medical practice guidelines, Carneiro would have been obliged to enter the pitch when referee Oliver called her on – regardless of whether Mourinho wanted her to treat the player or not. Ignoring that request would put her in breach of one of the GMC’s first tenets under the “safety and quality” responsibilities.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/chelsea/64796/chelsea-doctor-row-is-hazard-to-blame-for-feigning-injury

This raises questions about Mourinho's judgement. TV presenter Jacqui Oatley claimed on Twitter that Hazard requested treatment and the player did appear to be in pain.

....."it was Hazard himself who had requested treatment. This Fifa law is to protect the player as well as the referee". Law follows...

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...eden-hazard-treatment-supports-chelsea-medics

The protocol is that when a player goes down, the referee will speak to him and ask if he wants medical attention.

Hazard appeared to do that in this instance and after Oliver was told to summon the medics, the match official gestured to the bench twice in order to allow them to enter the field of play.

It's norm to try to bend ref's decision within boundaries, but you do it before ref's call has been made, not after. What are you gonna do after the whistle has been blown, game stopped, and orders given? Medics sitting on the bench would have only wasted more time not helping chelsea in any way.
 

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fair enough then. no doubt she shouldnt have been demoted. still, the press needs to calm the fuck down. its only getting so much attention because shes female. the gender card is being pulled out for no reason. i really dont give a shit about the whole thing though.
 

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This whole Eva Carneiro event is baffling. Honestly, if that didn't happen, I doubt the morale would've gone to shit. Chelsea probably would've been at least in the top 7 right now.

With Mou being a bit of a dick to the staff and his players, the squad lost the motivation completely. When Benitez fucked over Mou's good work at Inter, he had a half-legit excuse (although in summary, he fucked up): injuries and lack of support in transfer market. Yet, we didn't drift too far from the top.

Maybe signing Pogba and/or John Stones would've helped Chelsea's fortunes, but the current team isn't lacking in quality. It's the same team that won the PL with a bang last year, Mou dun goofed up.

He should probably get ready to leave Stamford Bridge and wait for PSG or Bayern's booty call.
 

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i dont want to see it happen but i feel mou would be perfect for juventus. obviously id like to see him here in june.

a lot of things about him arent tenable for a longer gig and he needs to work on that. the guy is just too intense. every game is literally a cup final to him so he pushes his players too hard and a lot of them cant deal with that.

i think chelsea should have signed some older, hungry, experienced players in the summer. i also wouldnt have had so many fringe players like remy, mikel, djilibodji, rahman to create a tighter group.
 

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i dont want to see it happen but i feel mou would be perfect for juventus. obviously id like to see him here in june.

a lot of things about him arent tenable for a longer gig and he needs to work on that. the guy is just too intense. every game is literally a cup final to him so he pushes his players too hard and a lot of them cant deal with that.

i think chelsea should have signed some older, hungry, experienced players in the summer. i also wouldnt have had so many fringe players like remy, mikel, djilibodji, rahman to create a tighter group.

I disagree. Mou thrives on being antiestablishment. I think that's part of why he struggled more at RM. Juventus very much pride themselves on being part of the establishment.
 

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Would lose all my respect for the guy if he joins juve. I know it s a business after all but he attacked juve way too much to ever join them also no way jube would ever hire him.

On another note as much as i would love to see Mou here again it s not the right time, as long as mancini reaches top 3 this season he should be given another season. Yes mourinho is on another level but we really dont need another change in coach.
 

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what happen with mou in chelsea is exactly what will happen with him in his third year for us, glad he and us hit the off button in right time, and benitez took the blame for exhausted squad..
 

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God am sick of hearing about that bitch. If she had a cock and balls no one would give a shit.

:lol:

Brutally honest Wizard of Wickedness. So very true.
 

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what happen with mou in chelsea is exactly what will happen with him in his third year for us, glad he and us hit the off button in right time, and benitez took the blame for exhausted squad..

disagree, maybe we wont repeat the treble. But we will still defend the scudetto and not end tragically in UCL that season if Mou still with us. Benitez biggest mistake is his ego, he doesn't give a fuck for Mou legacy. So he deploy tactic that is entirely different, and force our incompatible squad to execute it. When we get Benitez, i thought it's logical choice. Because his tactic in Valencia and Liverpool kinda similar with Mou in treble season. But he choose to play different kind of football, so Mou won't get a say if he succeed with us.
 

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Blame the doctor who at least has the courage to take on the massive club and the manager who demoted her for doing her job. She should be praised rather than abusing her.

Media coverage is bit OTT but Jose acted like cunt and is paying for it.

Saying that, I feel bad for Jose though. Hit the rock bottom and off the field stuff is putting him down even more.
 

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Meh if the Doctor wasn't attractive there'd be no fuss.
 

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Meh if the Doctor wasn't attractive there'd be no fuss.

If Doctor takes legal action then there would be fuss. No one dared to do till now or maybe no doctor was demoted for doing their job.
 

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I think PSG is the best fit for him honestly. He'll find a veteran core there that he can push over the hump. Ibra, Motta, Silva, Cavani, Lavezzi will all be on bored with his style. Although I could see him clashing with Zlatan this time around if he's even still there.
 
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