Frank de Boer

Where will De Boer lead us this season?


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How many times over the years are we going to see these pathetic reports of the players flipping on the manager and not agreeing with how they want them to play? I could swear this shit only happens so frequently at Inter. They join the club thinking of the history and how they expect to perform and get results ASAP and whenever there's a tough period they just lose interest and wait for the next manager to fuck over. Do we really need someone of a world class stature so that they would shut their mouths and get on with the job they have at hand? The fuck kind of mentality is that? Our constant changing of managers helps build that sort of lame mind set and it's in the back of our players' heads, playing shit? No worries, the manager will take the fall and he'll be replaced and meanwhile we'll just negotiate another pay rise. Fuckin lol.

De Boer is in a really hard place and his decisions as of late does not help his case whatsoever and, sadly, he'll more than likely get sacked. But does it not bother you how the players always win in these difficult moments when they are the most culprit (in my opinion) because they don't agree with that their boss, who by the way is fuckin qualified for the job, is telling them to do? I know de Boer has made mistakes but who doesn't? Is it too much to ask for him to be given time and to learn from his mistakes? Or once he lost the players there's really no going back from that?

It's just a sad state of affairs and most annoyingly of all it is nothing new for us.
 

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Who ever thinks our a new coach is gonna bench icardi is gonna have a bad time! I m pretty sure that no matter who takes over icardi will still be a sure starter for this team.
 

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whatever coach comes in and benches Icardi is insane. 8 goals and 2 assists. The coach should be telling him to get more involved with play though because FDB wants it played down the wings and crossed in to him and that's it. we dont work anything through the centre, ever
 

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How many times over the years are we going to see these pathetic reports of the players flipping on the manager and not agreeing with how they want them to play? I could swear this shit only happens so frequently at Inter. They join the club thinking of the history and how they expect to perform and get results ASAP and whenever there's a tough period they just lose interest and wait for the next manager to fuck over. Do we really need someone of a world class stature so that they would shut their mouths and get on with the job they have at hand? The fuck kind of mentality is that? Our constant changing of managers helps build that sort of lame mind set and it's in the back of our players' heads, playing shit? No worries, the manager will take the fall and he'll be replaced and meanwhile we'll just negotiate another pay rise. Fuckin lol.

De Boer is in a really hard place and his decisions as of late does not help his case whatsoever and, sadly, he'll more than likely get sacked. But does it not bother you how the players always win in these difficult moments when they are the most culprit (in my opinion) because they don't agree with that their boss, who by the way is fuckin qualified for the job, is telling them to do? I know de Boer has made mistakes but who doesn't? Is it too much to ask for him to be given time and to learn from his mistakes? Or once he lost the players there's really no going back from that?

It's just a sad state of affairs and most annoyingly of all it is nothing new for us.


No, but if you look at it, the last few managers have been Mazzarri, Ranieri, Mancini, De Boer, and Strama. None of whom were ever going to be particularly good at getting players onto their side.

We need a balance. Someone who is seen as fair, but 'harsh'. If you cross the line, you will be dealt with justly and correctly, but not blacked out of the squad for no good reasons, nor 'unapproachable'.

The guys need a tactician who isnt a useless motivator. Not a Benitez style always-criticism, but rather, someone who can rally the men behind him when he needs to, and can still tell a player off for crossing a line.


For example, not featuring in the matchday squad for like 2 months when Icardi does all sorts of shit and still features just seems like it would annoy the fuck out of me if i was in that position. Or randomly dropping Gabigol frmo the match day squad so we dont even have a full subs bench just reeks of ego.
 

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As insane as it may sound, as I'm far from being his biggest fan, Bielsa might actually be a proper coach to get us out of this mess in the short term.

He has the Benitez type of tactical obsession - watching hours and hours of footage to set up his team and exploit weaknesses in others; the Dutch style of totaalvoetbal attitude when it comes to pressing, running and training and he's not a bad motivator, as far as I'm aware. He's no coach for a serious club, but at the moment we're very far from a serious club. It's yet another fucking gamble, but better yet another gamble with high reward than a mediocre caretaker who would just see the season out, setting up shit in the meantime, and then we'll be yet again at year zero next summer.

Hell, if we're after fuckin Leonardo then I don't see a point in changing coaches at this point - it's pretty obvious we're not qualifying for CL or making waves in EL, so I don't really care whether we finish 12th or 4th. Let FDB see the season through himself.
 

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Im not a fan of FDB, but all of this is the managements fault. all of it. Mancini should never have been replaced. and if he was going to be, it should have been at the start of the season. we all know/knew this, but what a shambles.
 

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According to the gazzetta we are not sure wether to fire him now or on thursday even though the decision is made. Wtf is this if you wanna fire him fire him now why wait till thursday?

Also can we get matrix as a assistant coach to our new manager i feel like what this team needs most is sombody that kicks their ass every now and them and marco would be ideal for that.
 

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As insane as it may sound, as I'm far from being his biggest fan, Bielsa might actually be a proper coach to get us out of this mess in the short term.

He has the Benitez type of tactical obsession - watching hours and hours of footage to set up his team and exploit weaknesses in others; the Dutch style of totaalvoetbal attitude when it comes to pressing, running and training and he's not a bad motivator, as far as I'm aware. He's no coach for a serious club, but at the moment we're very far from a serious club. It's yet another fucking gamble, but better yet another gamble with high reward than a mediocre caretaker who would just see the season out, setting up shit in the meantime, and then we'll be yet again at year zero next summer.

Hell, if we're after fuckin Leonardo then I don't see a point in changing coaches at this point - it's pretty obvious we're not qualifying for CL or making waves in EL, so I don't really care whether we finish 12th or 4th. Let FDB see the season through himself.


if he's watching hours and hours of footage to set up his team and exploit weaknesses in others, then he might as well not bother because those hours and hours arent giving any fucking results.
 

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According to the gazzetta we are not sure wether to fire him now or on thursday even though the decision is made. Wtf is this if you wanna fire him fire him now why wait till thursday?

Huh? If we have to fire him, I rather Inter take as much time as they need to find a suitable new coach. A game or two will make no difference. But who our next coach is can make all the fucking difference. The big decision here is not when to fire him, but rather who to hire. Thats not a decision to be made in a hurry.

Though Inter management probably thinks more like you, going by recent history.
 

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Fuck this management.
 

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Frankie often speaks about how the team should be playing or that he only sees the team playing how he wants (expects) in patches and not the full 90 minutes.

Imho, this demonstrates that the team is not playing to the game plan/ideals/philosophy that he wants. This is also evident from when he has often mentioned the wrongs of the team in his post match briefings.

The questions that need to be asked are; Does the team/players have an issue with understanding or moreso executing the game plan ? Does he himself have an issue with how he implements his game plan to the players whereby they simply don't understand it ?

To me, it's clear what the team are 'trying' to do. We see it work in patches. Is it the players mentality ? In terms of confidence in sticking to the game plan/instructions ?

I'm confident that Frankie isn't happy with our showing because his ideas on how we want to be playing isn't being transferred onto the park, but is it his ability to get the message across the failure ? Or is it the ability of our players to execute the game plan ?? Our brainfart defending and inability to take a lead & maintain it makes me believe it's the latter.

I'm not convinced that Frankie is the one to blame, as I'm not convinced that our players (majority of) have the smarts to execute what they've been coached/instructed to do.

I don't think we've found a happy medium. We may have some fantastic players as individuals, but that doesn't necessarily make them 'coachable' or any easier to bring together as a 'team' and execute game plans.
 

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I think you make some really good points there I4E, but I'd look to MOurinho 08/09 as inspiration. When things were failing in his system, he quickly reverted to what Inter oculd do and dropped his expensive shiny toys in Mancini and Quaresma


The thing that worries me is the inability to change. We've seen several poor games, enough to the point where our players come out in the press and say 'We can win ugly', and he still (apparently) tries to get this silk out of us.


At the same time, we also have to question the suitability. We can say we want Icardi to play like Ibra, Medel to play like Xavi, and Candreva to be a modern Beckham, but it doesnt mean its going to happen. Being a good manager is about using your tools to accomplish what you can, rather than setting an inflexible direction
 

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Huh? If we have to fire him, I rather Inter take as much time as they need to find a suitable new coach. A game or two will make no difference. But who our next coach is can make all the fucking difference. The big decision here is not when to fire him, but rather who to hire. Thats not a decision to be made in a hurry.

Though Inter management probably thinks more like you, going by recent history.
I m not saying we should appoint sombody as soon as possible. It s not like we cannot fire him and let our primavera coach or who ever take over for 2/3 matches till we found the guy we want for the rest of the season.
I just dont see a reason to keep a dead man around he probably knows he ll get the boot so do the players so why the fuck keep him around. I mean it looked like the players we re not listening to him when he had the backing of the club so i can only imagine how much they care when they know that he ll be fired.
I tottally agree with you that we should not hurry our decision onwho to hire next.
 

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Monday 31 October 2016, De Boer is still Inter coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the award for the most retard peoples 2016 goes tooo.........................................


SUNINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!





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to be honest, after Vecchi's 3-5-2 shitshow to roma at the weekend, I wouldnt necessarily suggest we go with him
 

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Three days ago i was loud about keeping him. I like him as a coach, i see what he want to do, how he wants his team to play. But, i think he totally lost the locker. Really bad man management by him. Sorry to say this, but, i think is time for a caretaker.
 

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following on from donald trump's inspirational TRUMPTRAIN I am now introducing the BROWHA BANDWAGON

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I think you make some really good points there I4E, but I'd look to MOurinho 08/09 as inspiration. When things were failing in his system, he quickly reverted to what Inter oculd do and dropped his expensive shiny toys in Mancini and Quaresma


The thing that worries me is the inability to change. We've seen several poor games, enough to the point where our players come out in the press and say 'We can win ugly', and he still (apparently) tries to get this silk out of us.


At the same time, we also have to question the suitability. We can say we want Icardi to play like Ibra, Medel to play like Xavi, and Candreva to be a modern Beckham, but it doesnt mean its going to happen. Being a good manager is about using your tools to accomplish what you can, rather than setting an inflexible direction

While i agree with your points my problem is that the team showed that they can make his ideas work in the game against jube and also in a lot of other games sadly never for 90 minutes.
So i really think our players are also to blame for not giving a fuck and not following the coaches instructions. I mean how can it be that you manage to implement his game plan against the best team in italy but against teams like samp all of a sudden we re clueless?
And i would understand if we defended for 90mins against jube but we did not we played the same way as we try to play against samp and co.
 

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While i agree with your points my problem is that the team showed that they can make his ideas work in the game against jube and also in a lot of other games sadly never for 90 minutes.
So i really think our players are also to blame for not giving a fuck and not following the coaches instructions. I mean how can it be that you manage to implement his game plan against the best team in italy but against teams like samp all of a sudden we re clueless?
And i would understand if we defended for 90mins against jube but we did not we played the same way as we try to poay against samp and co.


Maybe the juve game was the anomaly, rather than the samp game then?


the thing for me is simple, whatever he is trying isnt working, it doesnt show any signs of improving, and hes clearly lost the dressing room too. No grounds for us NOT to sack him now sadly. If even one of those things werent true, my opinion would be different.
 

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I think you make some really good points there I4E, but I'd look to MOurinho 08/09 as inspiration. When things were failing in his system, he quickly reverted to what Inter oculd do and dropped his expensive shiny toys in Mancini and Quaresma


The thing that worries me is the inability to change. We've seen several poor games, enough to the point where our players come out in the press and say 'We can win ugly', and he still (apparently) tries to get this silk out of us.


At the same time, we also have to question the suitability. We can say we want Icardi to play like Ibra, Medel to play like Xavi, and Candreva to be a modern Beckham, but it doesnt mean its going to happen. Being a good manager is about using your tools to accomplish what you can, rather than setting an inflexible direction

More contemporary example would be Conte changing his Chelsea formation to a 3-4-3 due to the limitations in his defense. I like the fact that FdB has a philosophy rather than changing our formation on a weekly basis but there has to be a practical middle ground where some games (especially away where we lost SEVEN out of our last nine matches) you have to adapt to your opponent. There's no shame in winning 1-0 and playing badly.
 
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