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So buying 4-5 of those you mentioned would only cost us 35 million?


Is this year 2000?

My time machine has finally worked!
 

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I'm not as far on the Rafinha bandwagon as my previous post might suggest, and I do question if 35 might be too much, but I'm saying that Rafinha has come from Barca where everyone is competent at passing and he can blend in, if we can bring that spark to Inter and supply him with a couple of more similar ilk players then I think we will see a very good player.

At the moment the second best technical midfielder after Rafinha is a rapidly declining Valero. Icardi's link up when he plays 1 or 2 touches is pretty underrated and good but he isn't going to be holding the ball and pressing and probing. Then he's flanked on either side by wingers who routinely, as much as I like them, have games where their first touch is Serie B level and fuck up receiving passes you or I could handle.
 

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At the moment the second best technical midfielder after Rafinha is a rapidly declining Valero.

Which should trigger an alarm on the 35m price tag as we can get excited over a small demonstration of technical ability. Remember how people loved Valero in the pre-season and in his first few games for the exact same reason?

So buying 4-5 of those you mentioned would only cost us 35 million?

That's how much it cost to bring them to Serie A.
 

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I'm not talking about them, those were midtable Serie A transfers. Those should be done when you're already covered with your main squad and depth and you're just trying to change a few things up.

Catasgne of Atalanta falls into this category. (4m)
Karlsdrop of Roma. (14m)
Under of Roma is also one of these examples. (14m)
Milenkovic of Fiorentina. (5m)
Kownacki of Sampdoria. (4m)
Barak of Udinese. (3m)
Centurion of Genoa. (5m)

Remove one of the two Roma transfers and you have 35m worth of transfers. (both were around 15m)
You will argue that Rafinha is better, but as I debated in the previous page, he's not a game changer. He's not a world class talent. He's not worth 35m. You can add needed depth with that figure. And you can also play the odds. One could argue that at least 30% of the transfers do not work out. I'd rather see it happen with 3 players out of 10 that are on average costing 15m than see it happened with 1 player costing 35m out of three similar transfers.

We have a good enough core squad, we just need a few major improvements and most of all we need depth.

As much as depth is important, our core squad is not good enough. We need one or two players who are game changers. The last time an inter player not called Icardi or Perisic scored was late february. However, i dont think rafinha is that player, not for 35 million.
 

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What is it going to cost to redeem him? 40 million? I feel like we can get substantially more value for that money than him. He's without a doubt our best attacking midfielder, but that's not saying much.
 

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I like him a lot and I like his attitude but I'm still skeptical about him.

If the rumors about "Inter wanting to extend his loan another year" are true then that would be best. I'd really like him to succeed at Inter but 6 months are just too short to evaluate him and 35 million is a lot for an injury-prone player who still hasn't shown us his full potential.
 

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I think one way we can keep rafinha here is by renewing his loan agreement for maybe at least 6 more months. The same might apply to Cancello but I think Valencia would be much harder to convince.

Either way, how about this: we redeem Cancello and try to convince Madrid to extend Rafinha's loan for another year, paying his salary and maybe even a loan fee?
 

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I think one way we can keep rafinha here is by renewing his loan agreement for maybe at least 6 more months. The same might apply to Cancello but I think Valencia would be much harder to convince.

Either way, how about this: we redeem Cancello and try to convince Madrid to extend Rafinha's loan for another year, paying his salary and maybe even a loan fee?

I don't know man, convincing Madrid to extend Rafinha's loan might prove difficult.
 

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I didn't watch the match but what I understood from some live commentary in forum, we didn't play well despite Rafinha being there.

Could we conclude that it's not only Rafinha we need to our midfield but also Brozovic.
 

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you are going to convince Madrid to extend Rafinha's loan? he actually belongs to Barcelona :D
I don't like the idea of not redeeming him and instead bringing 4-5 guys for a total of 35 mln. It will cost us another half a season to build the chemistry and dressing room atmosphere. Fuck..aren't you guys fed up with that. It's better to integrate 1 quality player per year to your current squad. Just one accurate signing. We have seen his best sides in the match against Bologna, he was looking very good at build up with Karamoh, Cancelo. I am completely agree with Dylan's post
I'm saying that Rafinha has come from Barca where everyone is competent at passing and he can blend in, if we can bring that spark to Inter and supply him with a couple of more similar ilk players then I think we will see a very good player.
 

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Ugh sorry my bad, yeah I meant Barca of course. But I don't necessarily think it will be difficult. Rafinha will not play for Barca ever again, they don't want him, he doesn't want them, he wants us. It's all about both Ausillio and Rafinha putting pressure on Barca. And unless Barca gets a much better offer than the 35 mil agreed on from some other club, I don't see what harm it does to them extending his loan as long as we are paying his whole salary.
 

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You can ask to extend his loan but not 6 months, that'd be ridiculous. It's either a full season or nothing at all at this point. Inter will have to pay a loan fee that could very well be around 10m to do this and the clause will still be around 30m. It's not something I' advocate but it's way better than finding the next Joao Mario that will appear in the World Cup and splash 45m on him instead.
 

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I think Barcelona are willing to accept another year of loan with redemption price for around 25m. They are not desperate to sell him like Valencia are with Cancelo and it will be a fair deal for us even without the CL money.
 

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Guys how you want Rafnia to be good when our whole team was a wreck? We played basically with 5 defenders, Perisic out of position, totally useless Borja, Gagliardini alone against midfield of Atalanta and Icardi the goast.
Rafina will be great in good functional team. In yesterday's shit show, everybody looked like crap. (Except Miranda, Skriniar and Handana. Great game for them again).
 

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Yeah, but is it really that we need to pay 35m€ for a player who needs equally leveled players around him to be worth that money? Because I think we can do better in the market. We simply need to do better. Rafinha is raising the level of this team but sometimes it's not enough. I really have mixed feelings about him almost after every game. He has skill, he moves a lot, he can pass. But is that enough?

Extending the loan would be a gift from Barcelona, so I'm sure they won't accept it. However if we make it to CL, I think we can push it to 2019 summer with obligation to buy clause.
 

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Yeah, but is it really that we need to pay 35m€ for a player who needs equally leveled players around him to be worth that money? Because I think we can do better in the market. We simply need to do better. Rafinha is raising the level of this team but sometimes it's not enough. I really have mixed feelings about him almost after every game. He has skill, he moves a lot, he can pass. But is that enough?

Extending the loan would be a gift from Barcelona, so I'm sure they won't accept it. However if we make it to CL, I think we can push it to 2019 summer with obligation to buy clause.

Anyway you need a team and leveled players of course. This is not a tennis where everything is up to one person. Otherwise we need to find one Ibra and 10 other players good at defending. I believe that midfield Brozo-Gags-Rafina is good for Italy but our attack trident is too static and one-dimensional.
 

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ICould we conclude that it's not only Rafinha we need to our midfield but also Brozovic.

It's definitely both Rafinha and Brozovic.

It's not surprising. These two are our best two attacking midfielders with qualities that no one else has. It's unbelievable that this has not hit the heads of every Inter manager and director. I still don't understand the stubbornness of this club to keep collecting more physical brainless midfielders and less technical ones every single year. Not being able to score a single goal should ring a bell. That fucktard Mancini has definitely imprinted his backward views on this club since 2004.

We need atleast 2 new players similar to Brozovic and Rafinha. Gagliardini and Vecino are enough. The rest should just leave the club.
 
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