Rafinha

Spalletti literally said he rated both Rafinha and Cancelo. But he didnt have 70m (CASH) from his pocket.

Keeps making him scapegoat for everything, yeah.

PHM1605 said:

Spalletti literally said he rated both Rafinha and Cancelo. But he didnt have 70m (CASH) from his pocket.

Keeps making him scapegoat for everything, yeah.

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Spalletti also openly criticized Cancelo in the media during the season, and Cancelo himself spoke of the friction between them after he left.
He is not a "scapegoat", he is a direct culprit. We didn't have 35mil cash for Rafinha but we had 38mil for Radja? Care to elaborate that reasoning?
He didn't want Rafinha, simple as, and he also didn't want Cancelo, simple as that as well. The man had preferences, no need to defend him like a fanboy.

We didn't have 38m for Radja. We had 23m for Radja.

with FFP 'assistance' that neither farca or valencia would do to help us. FFS....it's like we will go over this every damn year

n4l said:

with FFP 'assistance' that neither farca or valencia would do to help us. FFS....it's like we will go over this every damn year

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Feels more like every fortnight.

dax21 said:

Spalletti also openly criticized Cancelo in the media during the season, and Cancelo himself spoke of the friction between them after he left.
He is not a "scapegoat", he is a direct culprit. We didn't have 35mil cash for Rafinha but we had 38mil for Radja? Care to elaborate that reasoning?
He didn't want Rafinha, simple as, and he also didn't want Cancelo, simple as that as well. The man had preferences, no need to defend him like a fanboy.

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Keep the fanboy bullshit for youself because it doesnt contribute anything to the discussion. By that way of thinking, wanting Rafinha here makes you a Rafinha delusional fanboy too, right?

I bold the word but you still miss it. We never spent 38m on Radja. Barca will accept Santon and Zaniolo as counterpart?

If you say buying Radja is a mistake, I agree. But if you chose Rafinha instead of Radja, you made even a worse choice. Paying 35m just to let him in the hospital? Radja was far from his best form but he did earn us some important points, without which we would play in EL now (if we chose Rafinha). Remind you that we were ONE point above the 5th.

Spallo would still be blamed no matter what happened, I feel, Rafinha or not.

Rafinha made a crucial role in winning the previous season's spot so what
Rafinha was fit when we bought Radja.
Sabatini suggested selling Icardi to buy both Cancelo and Rafinha. Had Spalletti insisted on that, no one would object. He didn't, because he wasn't sure about what he was doing

forzainter257 said:

Rafinha made a crucial role in winning the previous season's spot.
Rafinha was fit when we bought Radja.
Sabatini suggested selling Icardi to buy both Cancelo and Rafinha. Had Spalletti insisted on that, no one would object. He didn't, because he wasn't sure about he he was doing

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And have only Lautaro as a striker with Rano as back-up? I'm hoping that what you are saying isn't true, not even Inter management could be that stupid.

Materazzi_23 said:

And have only Lautaro as a striker with Rano as back-up? I'm hoping that what you are saying isn't true, not even Inter management could be that stupid.

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Ok, we kept Icardi and how did it turn out? Sabatini knew some shit about him

PHM1605 said:

Keep the fanboy bullshit for youself because it doesnt contribute anything to the discussion. By that way of thinking, wanting Rafinha here makes you a Rafinha delusional fanboy too, right?

I bold the word but you still miss it. We never spent 38m on Radja. Barca will accept Santon and Zaniolo as counterpart?

If you say buying Radja is a mistake, I agree. But if you chose Rafinha instead of Radja, you made even a worse choice. Paying 35m just to let him in the hospital? Radja was far from his best form but he did earn us some important points, without which we would play in EL now (if we chose Rafinha). Remind you that we were ONE point above the 5th.

Spallo would still be blamed no matter what happened, I feel, Rafinha or not.

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Defending the man and not an argument indeed makes you a fanboy, it's literally the opposite of ad hominem and just as detracting to the discussion. As far as Rafinha goes - I don't have a crystal ball, there is no way I can tell you whether he would still get injured if he stayed with us. There is no such thing as fate, injuries are accidents.

The whole argument is whether Spalletti wanted those two at Inter after their loans or not, not whether we could've or whether we should've signed them - and I firmly 100% believe he did not want either of the two. So when you (and notice how I directly specify who) chime in with an absolutely pointless post that has nothing to do with the topic, only to say "yeah keep blaming Spalletti", while not replying to anyone precisely nor providing a proper argument and therefore not actually putting some weight behind your words, it's just an utter waste of time and effort.

Those kind of posts where people accuse unnamed others of something, and especially when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand, are hands down the most annoying and pointless kind of posts on FIF. What kind of brownie points are you hoping to get by those vague sarcastic replies? It's the worst form of a forum conversation.

dax21 said:

Defending the man and not an argument indeed makes you a fanboy, it's literally the opposite of ad hominem and just as detracting to the discussion. As far as Rafinha goes - I don't have a crystal ball, there is no way I can tell you whether he would still get injured if he stayed with us. There is no such thing as fate, injuries are accidents.
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We never spend 38m on Radja. Dont spamming bullshit just to support "I firmly 100% believe he did not want either of the two.", unless you can tell me where the 70m coming from to begin with. I want Messi too but does it even matter?

You don't have a crystal ball but you can know "100%" what Spalletti was thinking. What a genius While himself said that he wanted but we didn't have the budget:
https://www.football-italia.net/121851/‘inter-can’t-sign-rafinha-cancelo’

dax21 said:

I firmly 100% believe.

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PHM1605 said:

You don't have a crystal ball but you can know "100%" what Spalletti was thinking. What a genius

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I might not be a genius but, unlike you, I can at least read.

dax21 said:

I might not be a genius but, unlike you, I can at least read.

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Personal attack just make you more pathetic. Can read but dont know what “CASH” means, even though I wrote it in capital. Lol.

ULTIMATE CHILL BROS

ChillBro said:

ULTIMATE CHILL BROS

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So... my post from a while ago worked after all.

PHM1605 said:

We never spend 38m on Radja. Dont spamming bullshit just to support "I firmly 100% believe he did not want either of the two.", unless you can tell me where the 70m coming from to begin with. I want Messi too but does it even matter?

You don't have a crystal ball but you can know "100%" what Spalletti was thinking. What a genius While himself said that he wanted but we didn't have the budget:
https://www.football-italia.net/121851/‘inter-can’t-sign-rafinha-cancelo’

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Wanting is one thing, but convincing the board, assuring them of with your vision is another. Conte came with crystal clear idea, he said he wanted Lukaku, this and that. He pushed the management by his interviews and here you go, the player he wanted is brought. Spalletti didn't do that, wasn't brave enough or maybe he didn't care at all?

For the fuck sake, we have the same discussion over and over!

Radja and Rafinha wouldn't have been the same deal! First of all we don't pay the full fee for N9. Santon and Zaniolo were counterparts and how the deal was settle helped us make plusvalenza. More than 15m, huge sums for plusvalenza out of an washed up player and an unknown kid.
We all moaned the whole time why the deal for Rafi and Cancelo were settled so unfavorably for us, knowing we need to make first plusvalenza. The only circumstance where we could have made the deals permanent was to sell Icardi (maybe not 110m, we "valueeted" him, but more than what we will receive now). Probably that was Saqbatini's plan and the reason he made those timelines in deals.
And selling Icardi would have allowed us to improve further. We would have enough money for another midfielder and an Icardi's replacement. And I firmly believe we would have been now in a much better position to fight for the scudetto against those fuckers (I don't even want to pronounce their name)!

forzainter257 said:

Wanting is one thing, but convincing the board, assuring them of with your vision is another. Conte came with crystal clear idea, he said he wanted Lukaku, this and that. He pushed the management by his interviews and here you go, the player he wanted is brought. Spalletti didn't do that, wasn't brave enough or maybe he didn't care at all?

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Even if Spallo pushed for the move, he couldn't do anything more but let them go.

- Cancelo case was clear enough. The clause was option to buy before the previous fiscal year (30.06) and we were struggling to get extra plusvalenza. As soon as the new fiscal year opened Valencia had sold him to Jube so we could do nothing to prevent that.

- Rafinha was a little bit easier, as Barca was willing to deal even after 01.07. But still, they wanted pure cash, with even more money (38m iirc). At that time we were in the last year of settlement agreement and we had to break even. Remember we needed a winger, but had to dig all over Europe to find whoever available for cheap option to buy (Keita)? One euro surplus of net spend would risk being tied by that SA for one more season.

As andrei said, we should have sold Icardi to cover the cost. But him at that time was simply untouchable. Sabatini proposed the idea, being rejected and he resigned immediately afterwards.

If you read my post above you could see that it was me who originally mentioned about Sabatini's proposal to sell Icardi to make the plusvalenza for the duo. If Spallo wanted them real bad and had balls he would go for it, like he went for Radja.
Spallo didn't want them that's what we are trying to prove. You as a counter bring his interview full of dicksuckery. Of course he will say they are good players. You expected him to say "he doesn't want them that much" when the season was halfway thru?

^check the date again, dude.