Serie A Calcio Mercato, Summer 2020-21

Il Drago said:

I honestly have no idea what Fiorentina are trying to do. They're selling Chiesa and they want to bring Callejon and Deulofeu. Where are they going to play them in Iachini's 3-5-2?

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maybe change to a 3-4-2-1 like roma? idk

More reason to hate Fiorentina. I cant believe they given Rube not one but TWO of their best talent away like candy. I hope Chiesa become Bernadeschi 2.0

ElDiego22 said:

More reason to hate Fiorentina. I cant believe they given Rube not one but TWO of their best talent away like candy. I hope Chiesa become Bernadeschi 2.0

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It's even worse when you realize that their supporters absolutely hate Juventus, and that these kinds of sales are complete insults to those supporters.

Kramerica Industries said:

It's even worse when you realize that their supporters absolutely hate Juventus, and that these kinds of sales are complete insults to those supporters.

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anyone like Juve? that isn't a Juve fan?

the 3-0 win against Napoli... def not going to win them any supporters

Il Drago said:

So Juve had sold Mandragora to Udinese for 20m and now they got him back for 10m.

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We did the same with Pinamonti. Quite possibly these are all plusvalenza fraud deals.

Bluenine said:

We did the same with Pinamonti. Quite possibly these are all plusvalenza fraud deals.

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No, we didn't. We sold him for 18m and we brought him back for his buyback option (19m). Juve brought Mandragora back for half (more or less) of his buyback clause.

Of course they're both fraud plusvalenza deals. Just like our 31m deal for Bastoni with Atalanta buying our youngsters.

Il Drago said:

No, we didn't. We sold him for 18m and we brought him back for his buyback option (19m). Juve brought Mandragora back for half (more or less) of his buyback clause.

Of course they're both fraud plusvalenza deals. Just like our 31m deal for Bastoni with Atalanta buying our youngsters.

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Source? All the reports I have read claim we bought him back for between 8m to 10m.

Not that it matters. These are all plusvalenza frauds anyway, and the accomplice clubs will be rewarded in some shape or form. For example, Juve have now loaned Mandragora back to Udinese for free

plusvalenza fraud is harsh, tbh, because in the mandragora case, udinese are OUT 10mil. You cant hide the cashflow. Unless Juve bought 10mil off them of other random kids in plusvalenza.

Plusvalenza fraud, imho, only really relates to scenarios where you do player exchanges - actual exchanges or implicit ones (like when we bought Bastoni at an inflated cost but got a lot of money for Bettela, etc, later/before)

Deadline day deals:
- Traoré to Man Utd (21m)
- Callejón to Fiorentina (f)
- Bakayoko to Napoli (l)
- Smalling to Roma (15m)
- Dalot to Milan (l)
- Chiesa to Juve (10m l)
- Darmian to Inter (3m lp)
- Kluivert to Leipzig (1m l)
- Douglas Costa to Bayern (l)


Inter
IN: Hakimi (40m), Barella (25m fo), Sensi (20m fo), Pinamonti (8m), Darmian (3m lp), Males (3m), Kolarov (1m), Vidal (f), Young (fo), Perisic (lr), Sanchez (f)
OUT: Icardi (50m fo), Pinamonti (20m fo), Karamoh (8m fo), Candreva (3m), Palazzi (2m), Dalbert (2m, l), Lazaro (1m l), Asamoah (f), Mario (l), Pirola (l), Vagiannidis (l), Gravillon (l), Males (l), Salcedo (l), Esposito (l), Agoumé (l), Godin (f), Brazao (l), Biraghi (lr), Valero (f), Moses (lr), Berni (r)
Total Sales 86m - Total Spend 100m = -14m


Juventus
IN: Arthur (72m), Correia (10m U23), Mandogara (11m), Chiesa (10m l), Morata (10m l), McKennie (5m l), [Pirlo], Gori (3m), Barbieri (1m U23), Kulusevski (lr)
OUT: Pjanic (60m), Can (25m fo), Pereira (8m U23), Muratore (7m), Mavididi (6m U23), Romero (2m l), Stoppa (1m), Mota 2m U23), Loria (2m U23), Gerbi (1m U23), De Sciglio, Costa, Rugani (2m, l), Pellegrini (l), Pjaca (l), Higuain (l), Perin (l), Matuidi (f), [Sarri], Gianluca Rocchi (r), Stoppa (1m),
Total Sales 116m - Total Spend 122m = -6m

Milan
IN: Tonali (10m, l), Rebic (9m), Brahim Diaz (l), Dalot (l), Hauge (5m), Tatarusanu (1m), Ibrahimovic (fo), Saelemaekers (4m, fo), Kalulu, Kjaer (3m, fo)
OUT: Suso (24m), Paqueta (20m), Andre Silva (9m), Pobega (l), Biglia (f), Reina (f), Rodriguez (3m), Bonaventura (f), Begovic (lr), Gomez (2m), Laxalt (l)
Total Sales 58m - Total Spend 32m = 26m

Roma
IN: Smalling (15m), Borja Mayoral (2m l), Kumbulla (3m l), Mkhitaryan (f, fo), Pedro (f), Veretout (16m fo), Mancini (13m fo), Perez (11m fo)
OUT: Schick (27m), Under (3m l), Cetin (l), Florenzi (1m l), Kluivert (1m l), Riccardi (l), Kolarov (1m), Defrel (9m fo), Gonalons (4m fo), Perotti (f), Zappacosta (lr), Kalinic (lr)
Total Sales 46m - Total Spend 60m = -14m

Lazio
IN: Fares (9m), Muriqi (18m), Akpro (3m), Andreas Pereira (l), Hoedt (l), Escalante (f), Reina (f)
OUT: Palombi (l), Jony (l), Badelj (5m), Berisha (4m), Lukaku (l)
Total Sales 9m - Total Spend 30m = -21m

Napoli
IN: Osimhen (70m), Bakayoko (2m l), Petagna (lr), Rrahmani (lr), Candellone (2m)
OUT: Allan (25m), Verdi (20m fo), Inglese (18m fo), Rog (13m fo), Chiriches (9m), Grassi (7m fo), Karnezis (5m), Manzi (5m), Ligouri (5m), Sepe (5m fo), Callejon (f), Tonelli (3m fo), Luperto (1m l)
Total Sales 115m - Total Spend 74m = 41m

Fiorentina
IN: Kouame (11m fo), Duncan (15m fo), Lirola (11m fo), Martinez Quarta (6m), Callejon (f), Valero (f), Bonaventura (f), Biraghi (lr), Amrabat (lr), Barecca (l), Pedro (lr)
OUT: Chiesa (10m l), Veretout (16m fo), Simeone (12m fo), Benassi (l), Boateng, Dabo (1m), Sottil (l), Diks (l), Dalbert (lr), Théréau (f), Badelj (lr)
Total Sales 39m - Total Spend 43m = -4m

Atalanta
IN: Depaoli (1m l), Mojica (l), Lammers (9m), Piccini (l), Romero (2m l), Miranchuk (15m), Pasalic (15m), Muratore (7m)
OUT: Traore (21m), Castagne (24m), Mancini (13m fo), Berisha (4m), D'Alessandro (3m), Czyborra (l), Haas (l), Reca (l), Colley (1m l), Mattiello (l), Piccoli (l), Melegoni (l)
Total Sales 66m - Total Spend 49m = 17m

Transfers rumours in orange
l = loan
lr = loan return
lp = loan + obligatory purchase
lo = bought and loaned out
fo = full ownership
tbc = to be confirmed
f = free transfer
r = retired
[] = coach
Only select loan deals / youngsters mentioned here

Bluenine said:

Source? All the reports I have read claim we bought him back for between 8m to 10m.

Not that it matters. These are all plusvalenza frauds anyway, and the accomplice clubs will be rewarded in some shape or form. For example, Juve have now loaned Mandragora back to Udinese for free

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I stand corrected. I had seen this article on Pedulla site:

https://www.alfredopedulla.com/esclusiva-pinamonti-base-di-intesa-tra-genoa-e-inter-per-il-ritorno-in-nerazzurro/

and i hadn't checked it further. The agreement is indeed for 8m plus 12m bonuses. You're right.

Pretty sure the bonuses are something which are easily triggered. Point is to push the payment and balance sheet hit further to the future.