Inter - Udinese (26 Aug 07)

davidRecoba said:

he played well, very well actually, defend well and attacked very well.

and about ibra, he played lazily.. over-confidence?

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36 degrees heat. All were lazy, even the Udine players when they were 1-0 down. He was still best on the pitch today especially with the ball at his feet. But I agree that he was running less then usual.

Waleed, you're right of course. We have problems. But it's the same we had last year(even when we had 17 consecutive wins) and I believe our positives greatly outweigh our negatives. I tend to focus on the positives.

what? that hot? gyan asamoah still played with spirit, maybe he is used to play with that heat

Funny how ive been trashed and spit at on this board every time i brought these obvious issues up this summer, and now when my predictions has become true everyone is saying the same :lala: :lala:

What happened to "best team in world", "mancini being great tacticaly and not clueless", "worldclass midtfield", "we dont need a playmaker", "presason wasnt wasted", "stankovic is worldclass" ect ect?

Azzkikr said:

Funny how ive been trashed and spit at on this board every time i brought these obvious issues up this summer, and now when my predictions has become true everyone is saying the same :lala: :lala:

What happened to "best team in world", "mancini being great tacticaly and not clueless", "worldclass midtfield", "we dont need a playmaker", "presason wasnt wasted", "stankovic is worldclass" ect ect?

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A draw isn't as bad as you think. Last season we won our first game then drew our second, so no your armageddon hasn't occured just yet. We must against Empoli and I think we will, the red card destroyed rhythm of our game today. Though your world class striker Cruz, should have wrapped the game up in the first half.

Stankovic said:

"We have taken some steps forward, I'm convinced that without the sending-off we could have controlled the match until the end.

"We're just at the start, there are still many matches to go. We should have killed the game off earlier. When you have the chance, you have to make it two- or three-nil and then defend your lead. This way you still have the necessary margin to bring home three points if you lack energy in the final fifteen minutes."

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Pretty much sums it up IMO.

My God! When will Cordoba learn never to do such dumb mistakes ever again whether he is dileberate or not, he always seems to be in the wrong place in the wrong time

Hahaha

""The physical structure of the players means the team will take a bit longer than the others to reach top condition."


what is that even meant to mean? 'I'm a retard and forgot to make the players do cross country in pre-season"?

browha said:

Hahaha

""The physical structure of the players means the team will take a bit longer than the others to reach top condition."


what is that even meant to mean? 'I'm a retard and forgot to make the players do cross country in pre-season"?

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it means i am making a dumb excuse for my poor decision to leave out recoba and adri for "tactical reasons", starting cruz and cordoba, and making poor changes during the game

so true

why is mancini so glaringly tactically inept? Maybe in his head he is making super tactics, like the 'unpredictable' match winning type (trying to remember which liverpool game it w as last year where benitez did something very unexpected and it worked brilliantly)

It's not that big a deal. It's early in the season and inter controlled the game until Cesar ruined it. They clearly lack match fitness but when vieira, cambiasso and matrix returns and they regain top condition they will be very hard to beat.

Three players ****ed it up for us.

1) Cruz should have finished off the game. He was totally useless today.

2) Cesar handed over the game to Udinese. Retarded.

3) Cordoba didn't do one thing right today and provided udinese with the goal. Cordoba has really been awful for some time now. It's really strange that Cordoba just over a year ago was one of the best defenders in italy. Hope he gets back to his best again soon.

Ibra looked strong and Maicon, Maxwell, Samuel, Zanetti and Figo all played quite well.

Why are we lacking match fitness in ****ing AUGUST? We've had the friendlies to be ready, a month of pre-season fitness program... These are paid professionals... If a football player could run 90 minutes 40 years ago then go down the pub and get smashed once a week and work a full time job on top of that they sure as HELL can be fit enough to run 90 minutes when its a full time job and they dont drink, on special diets, etc.

Azzkikr said:

Funny how ive been trashed and spit at on this board every time i brought these obvious issues up this summer, and now when my predictions has become true everyone is saying the same :lala: :lala:

What happened to "best team in world", "mancini being great tacticaly and not clueless", "worldclass midtfield", "we dont need a playmaker", "presason wasnt wasted", "stankovic is worldclass" ect ect?

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I think everyone who was attacking you and ridiculing you all summer have to eat their words now..you were right about the team needing more transfers and about how the midfield is so inept

Pulsar36 said:

I think everyone who was attacking you and ridiculing you all summer have to eat their words now..you were right about the team needing more transfers and about how the midfield is so inept

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I beg to differ.

His idea of drasticly changing our team by replacing our good producing players with better star players is about as clueless as it gets. Whether or not we win the league(which I think we will) it doesn't matter, he will still be wrong.

Anyone who has coached peewee football even, knows that you don't drasticly change a winning team by buying too many new players. That's a sure way of failure, Real Madrid style. They bought half the World when they won and they will struggle once again because of it. The rule is you only make big changes when you're not performing, not when you are on top of the World.

No, what you do is build on what you have and fix what wasn't working, in our case the most clear example was our left back position.

If you're gonna be nitpicky about our problems you might aswell sell every player apart from Ibra, Maicon and Materazzi.

Pulsar36 said:

I think everyone who was attacking you and ridiculing you all summer have to eat their words now..you were right about the team needing more transfers and about how the midfield is so inept

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Disagree. 2 games is hardly any evidence of being proven correct either way. You judge at the end of a project not at the start.

It seems that some people have already thrown the towel with 1 game into the new season?!

We must remember that there are 37 games to and that's a long long way for everybody including the ones who hit 5 and 3 on day 1.

The team had a decent first half in which we missed the opportunity to seal off the game had Cruz taken his chance but it wasn't to be.

After the super cup it was evident that we're behind in terms of physical condition and unfortunately the only way to solve this problem is by playing more matches. So we must expect the team to stutter again in the coming matches.

Having said that, I still think that Mancini's declarations regarding the weather were lame because I don't think the other teams played in Greenland!! :stop:

DaRealest said:

I beg to differ.

His idea of drasticly changing our team by replacing our good producing players with better star players is about as clueless as it gets. Whether or not we win the league(which I think we will) it doesn't matter, he will still be wrong.

Anyone who has coached peewee football even, knows that you don't drasticly change a winning team by buying too many new players. That's a sure way of failure, Real Madrid style. They bought half the World when they won and they will struggle once again because of it. The rule is you only make big changes when you're not performing, not when you are on top of the World.

No, what you do is build on what you have and fix what wasn't working, in our case the most clear example was our left back position.

If you're gonna be nitpicky about our problems you might aswell sell every player apart from Ibra, Maicon and Materazzi.

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Well if you bothered to actualy read my posts instead of making your own conclusions based on what you think that i mean, you might get a wake up call and stop posting jiberish.

I never said we need to rework the entire team, i said we should rework our midtfield. Our midtfield is a brick without any creativity or speed. It doesnt matter how great your forwards are if the midtfield cant deliver the goods.

And change a winning team? Won what? A paper scudetto and a scudetto in the weakest serie a ever. I dont understand how that validates getting humiliated yet again in the cl and coppa final also for that matter. And on top of the world :howler:? what kinda bullshit is that...

And you only reinforce when you are not winning tell that to just about every other big club, they make changes regardless of if they are winning or not. Its called improving squad quality and staying competetive.

Everyone else improved both in italy and in europe, we stayed at status quo without even trying to fix any of the obvious speed/creativity related issues. And then they go public stating that the cl is the primary objevtive :howler: even tho its been clear we needed something ekstra in that competition for years now. Letting every else improve, not improving yourself and then state to have higher ambition, that doesnt make much sense to me.

Mancini is at fault.

I told during the game already that it's absolutely stupid to go for a team like Inter to defend 1:0 lead for 30 ****ing minutes when 10 down with six defenders. We should've tried more.

Fans don't need to praise the team all the time, obviously not everything is right with the team. We aren't in any kind of form compared to Juventus or Milan or Roma it seems. They all dominated their matches, while we didn't really look convincing. We created only two really great chances in first half to be honoust and one 75% chance for Stankovic.

I think we are too independant on the injuries in central midfield. That's why we need a new player who can be all-around there. So Stankovic could concentrate on attacking.

Though Deki's passing today in second half was horrendous, so was Maicon's ball control. I've been disappointed a lot in our first two opening games, lot different from last season.

Good start has always been the key to success in Serie A. We've seen Inter fall behind 9 points before and have we come back? I'm not saying we will be 9 points behind, but if we play like that for few more games then we will.

Azzkikr said:

Well if you bothered to actualy read my posts instead of making your own conclusions based on what you think that i mean, you might get a wake up call and stop posting jiberish.

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You wanted to buy someone else to play instead of Stankovic did you not? Yes, lets take one of our most productive players last season and replace him with someone who will quite possibly have difficulties to adapt to the italian league, and possibly Inter. That's how you win a league.

I never said we need to rework the entire team, i said we should rework our midtfield. Our midtfield is a brick without any creativity or speed. It doesnt matter how great your forwards are if the midtfield cant deliver the goods.

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Ehh, Zanetti always does well with his runs which opens space. Stankovic has good vision and a very good riight foot. Figo is far from finished and can contribute well enough. And besides Ibra drops so far down pitch he works like an attacking midfielder at times, he's creative enough. And yes, I too wanted a creative midfielder to join us if Figo left, it would be a good buy. But we decided to keep him and sofar he's done quite well.

Not best in the World but it's suffiecent to win the League and the CL. Just need a little luck with the CL.

And change a winning team? Won what? A paper scudetto and a scudetto in the weakest serie a ever. I dont understand how that validates getting humiliated yet again in the cl and coppa final also for that matter. And on top of the world :howler:? what kinda bullshit is that...

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Obviously "top of the World" isn't to be taken literally. We're winning, that's the point. And in the weakest Serie A ever CL champions Milan only managed fourth place, so even though you're not proud for our total domination it doesn't mean it wasn't a great feat winning the championship and breaking every record.

And you only reinforce when you are not winning tell that to just about every other big club, they make changes regardless of if they are winning or not. Its called improving squad quality and staying competetive.

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:wallbang: Read what I wrote again and read it right.

Everyone else improved both in italy and in europe, we stayed at status quo without even trying to fix any of the obvious speed/creativity related issues. And then they go public stating that the cl is the primary objevtive :howler: even tho its been clear we needed something ekstra in that competition for years now. Letting every else improve, not improving yourself and then state to have higher ambition, that doesnt make much sense to me.

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We did improve, more so then Milan and Roma. You just don't see it.

Well, DaRealest... you say we need luck in CL? Luck hasn't got anything to do with our players having no creativity in away legs of our last two CL knock-out stage games.

I'm not saying we can't win CL or something, but we haven't fixed a thing that has put us out last two times. And by that we go into the CL with huge risk of not making it too far again.