Romelu Lukaku

Would you buy Lukaku this summer?


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Doesn't mean he cannot deliver at Inter with better players around him.

Empoli is struggling to get the ball forward, let alone have a proper attacking plan.

Obviously Satriano as 3rd choice here isn't the right plan, but judging him on numbers on French and Italian relegation battling teams isn't the way to go. Send him to Genk or Feyenoord and see what happens.
The fact that he only went to relegation battling team is enough to convince me why he's not that good. As you said, Satriano as 3rd choice here isn't the right plan and let's leave it at that.
 

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Should have just signed Dybala.
Hindsight is 20/20

No one was talking about Lukaku's injury-proness in the summer. Dybala would have probably provided us few more goals for sure now but he's injured also and we would have him signed for 4 years. At least with Lukaku we can decide to forget loaning him again.

Another matter is will we do that decision but it's not related to this conversation.
 

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Can't believe I will after 7-8 years cheer for Croatian NT cause of this cunt.
 

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Hindsight is 20/20

No one was talking about Lukaku's injury-proness in the summer. Dybala would have probably provided us few more goals for sure now but he's injured also and we would have him signed for 4 years. At least with Lukaku we can decide to forget loaning him again.

Another matter is will we do that decision but it's not related to this conversation.
But many people talked about his fitness issue now that Pintus isn't here. Owning over leasing any day.
 

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Owning Dybala who's out every year for many weeks? I'd rather do the test period with Lukaku and see how it goes. So far it's going shit so we can just return the product.
 

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Owning Dybala who's out every year for many weeks? I'd rather do the test period with Lukaku and see how it goes. So far it's going shit so we can just return the product.
Hence the 0 price tag. With Dybala you know he's going to deliver when he's available and he was free, I don't doubt that Lukaku can also deliver when he's available but at what cost? Are we gonna pay another 10m for his second stint?
 

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No. But even if we add Champions league, where teams face different opponents, we're still worse. 18 vs 22

we had Bayern and Barca...... they had Benfica and PSG. They have 3 points..... and lost to the worst team in their group haha. We beat and tied 3-3 to the team that everyone thought would knock us out.

With no money. I stand by it that it was a good call to not get Dybala or Bremer. Tho not getting Bremer and losing Skriniar for free if that happens will be pretty bad.
 

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Satriano? 1 goal in 10 games for empoli
Are we really going to judge players solely on numbers? I hope not.

It's not the right choice to get him back but we are broke and can't do shit on the transfermarket. It's a choice out of desperation but we have to do something in the winter.
 

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Hence the 0 price tag. With Dybala you know he's going to deliver when he's available and he was free, I don't doubt that Lukaku can also deliver when he's available but at what cost? Are we gonna pay another 10m for his second stint?
Let's hope we're not gonna pay that. But that's anyway a decision to be made later and wasn't a decision last summer.

Regarding Dybala, it would have been 5m+1m bonus contract what we had for him according to the rumors. For a player who's probably out for weeks every season. He's basically a player you cannot rely on. That's why it was risky business signing him always.

Now Lukaku looks almost as risky as Dybala given his injuries now although difference is he doesn't at least have the injury pedigree. Still very unlikely I'd suggest going for him past this season.
 

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Are we really going to judge players solely on numbers? I hope not.

It's not the right choice to get him back but we are broke and can't do shit on the transfermarket. It's a choice out of desperation but we have to do something in the winter.
Nope, I don't believe in stats solely. You could have many goals at another team but you might be shit at Inter, but If you can't even score goals with that many minutes at empoli, how can you expect him to deliver at Inter with much more limited time ? I'd rather keep him at Empoli to see how he develops.
 

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The fact that he only went to relegation battling team is enough to convince me why he's not that good. As you said, Satriano as 3rd choice here isn't the right plan and let's leave it at that.
It's a strategy from our club. We wanted to send him to Serie A. I don't mind that in general, but why send him to freaking Brest, a French Empoli, then send him to Empoli? It's also because teams from less exposed leagues cannot really afford that kind of a salary on a kid, let alone a fee that Inter was asking initially. If we really want to develop these guys we need to absorb the salary and send them to the best environment.

I'd rather send him to a team that challenges for their domestic championship and then ship him to a midtable Serie A team if that's the path. Sending him to these kind of clubs shatters his development and most importantly, his confidence. You need to be part of a winning group to develop properly unless you have a B team that has a great setup.

If you check the top strikers of the previous generation you'd see that they have this in common and it was very rare to find a paradox. They spent their formative years competing for trophies.
Benzema, started off with a bang at Lyon.
Lewandowski, two full seasons challenging in Poland and was more than ready to become the main striker after a year with Dortmund and win back-to-back with in his first two seasons there.
Dzeko, competed in Bosnia, then odd case as Teplice had their long shot in his first season but when he took off the team wasn't as good. He did compete in Germany though at Wolfsburg. And won the league when he was 23 as the team's leader.
Higuain, competed with River Plate, then at Real Madrid.
Luis Suarez, competed in Uruguay and with Ajax before going to Liverpool.
Aguero, competed with the young teams of Argentina (2 World Cups and Olympics) and his club Independiente to a degree, then competed at Atletico in the early Simeone days.
Falcao, competed with River, Porto and Atletico.
Cavani, competed at club and national level with Uruguay (incl. Copa America win), even at Palermo they reached the cup and was part of the first Napoli contentions in the 2010s (2012-13 season).



If you want to get a striker to reach a higher status, you need to give him this kind of experience. I cannot think of any top striker at a top level that got his playing experience at a relegation battling team. Can barely think of a few that got their early exposure at midtable teams or weak outsiders. Even a Serie B contender is a better experience than a relegation battler in Serie A. Doesn't even need to win it, but being part of a group that wins and gets that 'bug' is a very good experience and compass for the player's future. The Verratti, Immobile and Insigne way with Pescara.

Not everyone is world class and not everyone becomes world class, but at least maximize the chances for your players to gain such exposure. This is why I prefer these guys sticking to the first team and rot on the bench over being sent to useless loans. They stay with a group that competes, they get to train with higher level teammates, better coaches and they understand the pressure that comes with it. Playing with a team that's happy they didn't lose is not the right direction. It's one thing to get players accustomed to the league and another to expect them to perform in unfavorable conditions.
 
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Did we have another offer for him? From a mid table serie a team?
 

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Did we have another offer for him? From a mid table serie a team?

We had offers in June from many teams around Europe but we didn't want to loan him, only sell.
We then wanted to keep him around, at least Inzaghi initially did, whereas Marotta tried to sell him for a big sum which never arrived. Then Lukaku arrived and we decided to loan him since we couldn't get rid of Correa as well and Sanchez was still around and we didn't meet his demands to terminate at the time.

So we didn't really give the kid a chance.
Empoli came knocking and we were like, sure you can have him. Our management imagined that it'd be enough to warrant a sale next season like with Pinamonti. Difference is that Pinamonti is Italian and had already been in 2-3 different teams in Serie A. It's ridiculous really. There's no proper long term planning. If you want to use this guy next year, this experience isn't helping. Sending him to Anderlecht or Basel like Esposito would have been understandable. But Empoli? We're just farming him for a near future sale. And it's not looking great either. Salernitana could have been a better option in that regard.

Iirc, he was also part of the Asllani talks but don't remember if he was directly a part of that or not.

Edit: we can continue this in the Satriano thread
 

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There is absolutely no way that Inter would promote a young player or recall Satriano to occupy a place in our squad. If you look at our bench against Sampdoria, with the exception of Bellanova, we did not have any young players on the bench. The reality is that in the Inzaghi will continue to make do with Lautaro and Dzeko.
 
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