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There is no reason to mix and match the concept of an organized fan club who go into the stadium and cheer for 90 minutes for their club with the concept of Ultras.

Inter has a lot of fun clubs in Italy and out of Italy who are organized and go in the stadium with the only purpose to cheer for their team. They don't feel entitled to get free tickets or extra favors because they are paying for a membership fee or because they are going in the stadium more often than the general fan.

Ultras on the other and is a culture of violence. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship , nothing to do with the love for the club and nothing to do with the atmosphere in the match. Ultras culture needs to be punished by law and the leaders who incite violent behavior need to be identified and arrested as simple as that.
I have been part of both worlds ( ultras and just normal fun clubs) and i can tell you that there is a major difference between them. Both are fans of the club but ultrases do not love it more than the others , nor sacrifice more they just like the culture of violence. As a fun club you gather , you discuss about the match , the players , the tactics and together go watch the match.
As an ultras , you gather , you do discuss about the team but mostly you focus on the opposition fans , you plan what to do to SHOW them , how to steal their banners , how to throw blasters on their side of the stadium and how to make noise. As an ultras you want to be noticed , you want the medias to speak about you and you want to be PART of the match. As a club fan , you don't want to be a protagonist , you go there to serve the club ( cheer to motivate) not for the club to serve you.
 

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Police makes things worse.

Tickets shouldn't be sold at the Curva, end of story. People who think they'll watch the game or be part of an experience should be fully aware of what they're signing up to.

If you like to see the Curva singing and demonstrating flags and coreos, watch them from afar. If youre not one of them, you're not very likely going to enjoy their ways.

I can only compare my experience in Australia. And that would be stopped within five minutes and people removed/banned. I'm not sure why police would make it worse if their just singing and waving flags??
 

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Police makes things worse.

Tickets shouldn't be sold at the Curva, end of story. People who think they'll watch the game or be part of an experience should be fully aware of what they're signing up to.

If you like to see the Curva singing and demonstrating flags and coreos, watch them from afar. If youre not one of them, you're not very likely going to enjoy their ways.
Brehme, you are spot on. I went and watched Inter at the Meazza back in 2006 (my first and only game). Many of my friends were incredulous that I did not go into the Curva.

To me, that made absolutely no sense. I got a seat in the orange section close by so I could watch them from a distance but I was under no illusion that the Curva was not for me.
 
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ultra culture is native to Italian football and helps maintain a certain atmosphere, but these people can’t be taking over sections of the stadium under their jurisdiction. They don’t represent the fan base at large. Why do they feel entitled to have unlimited rights in the curva? Because they’re diehards? Okay, so are a lot of people who can’t make it out to the stadiums. Or those who don’t pretend they’re living an episode of Gomorrah.

I’m not saying they can’t organize, but they have to do so in a way that doesn't involve coercion or threats. I mean it seems pretty straight forward.
 

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Yeah, they should limit the area where Ultra groups can be and indeed not sell tickets to those areas at all (reserved only for ultra groups).
I d hate that....
Imho going to the curva is an experience that one should have no matter if he s a ultra or not....
Also in terms of where you sit you wont be bale to get tickets in the middle of the boys group any ways...
Like i ve been in different curvas and never had a problem despite not being part of the ultras, lets not act like they do dumb shit like this every game.

In terms of police presence in the curva man i dont think i have seen to many example of that turning out good. You d need to put a lot of cops in there if you really want them to intervene otherwise your just putting a couple of shit scared cops and throw them to the lions.

Sad thing is we re probably gonna end up like the EPL as these fucken ultras just wont understand that we re running a business here and we cannot tolerate their shit much longer as it s hurting our bottom line for too long now.
 

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Ultras should be banned from even walking around 1 kilometer radius of every fucking stadium in the world.
 

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I would not got that far.

Remember when we were playing behind closed doors under Conte and they were cheering outside the stadium for the players during the game?
 
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Ultras perse are not the issue. The issues are the criminal elements that use them as cover their activities.
 

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Maybe I'm naive but this isn't an issue 99% of the time. I have sat in the curva and its always been fine. Is it a place if bring my kids? No. Against barca i sat in the 4th row behind the inter dugout and it was superb but I wouldn't want the curva to disappear under this authoritarianism some of you are proposing. I guess the modern fan just wants the club to sell its soul for money like Premier League teams where their fans just sit and politely clap. Boring...
 

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Instead of beating the shit out of innocent fans, I wouldn't mind a few of them getting on the team bus tonight.
 
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Ultras on the other and is a culture of violence. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship , nothing to do with the love for the club and nothing to do with the atmosphere in the match. Ultras culture needs to be punished by law and the leaders who incite violent behavior need to be identified and arrested as simple as that.
I have been part of both worlds ( ultras and just normal fun clubs) and i can tell you that there is a major difference between them. Both are fans of the club but ultrases do not love it more than the others , nor sacrifice more they just like the culture of violence. As a fun club you gather , you discuss about the match , the players , the tactics and together go watch the match.
As an ultras , you gather , you do discuss about the team but mostly you focus on the opposition fans , you plan what to do to SHOW them , how to steal their banners , how to throw blasters on their side of the stadium and how to make noise. As an ultras you want to be noticed , you want the medias to speak about you and you want to be PART of the match. As a club fan , you don't want to be a protagonist , you go there to serve the club ( cheer to motivate) not for the club to serve you.
Then how would you describe hooligans/hooliganism? Don`t you think it`s exactly the bolded part?
INTER ULTRAS TRY TO MEND BRIDGES WITH FURIOUS FANS
Inter ultras groups realised they went too far when threatening and pushing ticket-paying fans to leave the stands at San Siro to honour a dead criminal and are trying to mend some bridges. ‘We want to move on, united.’
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The incident occurred during half-time of Inter’s Serie A match against Sampdoria on October 29. News came through that one of the historic ultras leaders, a man in his 70s who had a long rap sheet including drug dealing and kidnap, had been shot and killed in an ambush outside his home. To honour him, the ultras all left the Curva Nord section of the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, but also insisted that all other fans also vacate the area, doing so with threats and physical violence, even towards families with children.

That prompted questions in parliament, a clampdown on security and turned many of the regular fans against them, which is why this evening the Curva Nord representatives released a statement trying to repair some of the damage.

“Go forward, go beyond, be united,” was the title of the statement.
“Interisti brothers, after a period of reflection, we want to discuss the incidents that occurred during Inter-Sampdoria on October 29.
“We want to send out a sign of peace towards the Nerazzurri population and those who hold Inter in their heart. That was a tragic day for us, which stunned us, took us by surprise and left us disorientated.
“Unfortunately, in the media we were painted (unjustly) as monsters. We are accustomed to that and do not care. The reality is very different.
“However, what is important to us now is rebuilding that bond that has torn with those Inter fans who were in the Curva that day.
“This is not the place to go into specifics of what happened. What is evident to everyone is that this event generated an internal short-circuit where not everything went the way we would’ve liked.
“Some unpleasant and uncontrollable incidents have been reported to us that involved people outside the dynamics of the curva.
“In those chaotic moments, we lacked some fundamental communication and probably some people made mistakes, so for that, we apologise.
“The Curva Nord, in those tragic moments, decided to abandon the section of the stadium out of respect to his family, putting the sporting event in the background.
“It was a choice that might or might not be agreed with, but was misunderstood in its deepest motivation. We want to move on, united.
“So we ask all those who felt offended by the methods used by certain individuals to contact us so we can try to clarify the situation that has been created.
“Our hope is to have everyone with us who has Inter in their heart once the season resumes.”

Ultras are part of the football culture and their presence is deeply rooted and incredibly strong in Italy. You won`t have football without Ultras over there.

They are the barebone of club values, defending it`s core. Ultras are the ones first to react in case the club pulls some shady decisions. With today`s technology, they should be able to punish the ones that are responsible.

In Romania we are witnessing an long period of abuses by local authorities, because new legislation empowered them and they have banned everyone for 1 year that was in the area of the incident (not necessarily involved).
 

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Compared to Milan's vs Tottenham this was pretty shit.
 
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Compared to Milan's vs Tottenham this was pretty shit.

I said it on the match thread as well, Milan's choreo was superior. But this one looks pretty cool too.
 
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Curva Nord – Federico Dimarco Made Mistake Personally Insulting AC Milan Fans​

The Nord have made their own response to this incident.

The Nord’s interpretation is that the Sud had reason to be upset with one particular chant from Dimarco.

A represeentative of the ultras group gave their statement on their Instagram page:

“What happened is an unpleasant matter.

“Federico is a fan favourite, we love him madly because he came through our academy, and therefore he means something special to us.

“In our opinion, he made a mistake to begin with.

“Federico is a young man with lots of heart.

“He felt the importance of that win deep inside, and he wanted to express his happiness with levity.

“As he admitted, though, he sang some chants that went beyond the normal banter between Inter and Milan.

“What usually happens is that players engage in banter aimed at the opposition clubs, or make fun about Inter’s wins over Milan or vice-versa,” the Nord explains their rationale.

“Federico did something a little different.

“He sang a chant the Curva Nord no longer sings for some time now.

“This is because of a political choice, to not talk about physical altercations.

“However, Federico ignored that, and initiated a chant that cut to the bone for Milan fans.

“It’s fine to banter about one team going to the final, but we would have been annoyed if a Milan player took a shot at our Curva.

“He fell into the trap of insulting the Milan Curva, and they have every reason to feel angry about this incident.

“We’ve taken the position of the player who apologized,” the Curva Nord continued.

“We are inclined towards defending Federico and defending him. He was humble and apologized.

“Banter is legitimate if it pertains to the clubs, but any banter aimed at the Curvas runs the risk of affecting certain delicate balances.

“There’s a pact that has been around for generations. There’s a lot of respect.

“There are people in the Curva Nord with family members in the Curva Sud. There are personal friendships due to the fact that our children go to school together.

“When the banter becomes about the fans, it goes off-script.

“There’s a climate of peace, but we dissociate ourselves from what’s written in the newspapers.

“We’re correct in having accepted Dimarco’s apology,” the Nord respresentative states.

“And to show the Sud that the young man made a mistake, and they understood this.

“Now everyone goes their own way. No more need for any revenge – the story ends here” the statement ends.

Once again Curva Nord shows they're first ultras and then Interisti.
 
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