Italian Serie A 2022/2023

Who wins the Scudetto?


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11 cbs are worth 60+

with Skriniar barely being worth 60
 

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11 cbs are worth 60+

with Skriniar barely being worth 60
Sure. I mean whatever it kind of depends what source you look at. On transfermarkt though we have 2 of the top 10 CBs by value. Infaxt us and Barca are the only clubs with two in the top 10.
 

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Right. Because having three top/world class centre backs is a problem of the owners not the coach? E.g. not conte who did a pretty amazing job with the back line?

If our defense was ranocchia, Silvestre, campagnaro, we could talk. But it isn't. Probably two of the only 7? CBs in the world worth more than 60m in that backline. I expect much better.
Worse defence than Lecce. Enough said.
 

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Right. Because having three top/world class centre backs is a problem of the owners not the coach? E.g. not conte who did a pretty amazing job with the back line?

If our defense was ranocchia, Silvestre, campagnaro, we could talk. But it isn't. Probably two of the only 7? CBs in the world worth more than 60m in that backline. I expect much better.
Are you seriously suggesting that these players are just random dots that one coach can utilize one way and another in a different way?

So Skriniar being told he's leaving 3 windows in a row doesn't cause issues with him?
De Vrij being told that he's no longer wanted halfway in the season as we dropped the extension calls doesn't affect him?
Heck, even Bastoni having a kid now affects him.


Sure, expect better as you're entitled to. But at least expect it from those mainly responsible!

There's something toxic going on with the team and from what we can safely assume from what we see and hear, it's not the coach's fault.
 

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Are you seriously suggesting that these players are just random dots that one coach can utilize one way and another in a different way?

So Skriniar being told he's leaving 3 windows in a row doesn't cause issues with him?
De Vrij being told that he's no longer wanted halfway in the season as we dropped the extension calls doesn't affect him?
Heck, even Bastoni having a kid now affects him.


Sure, expect better as you're entitled to. But at least expect it from those mainly responsible!

There's something toxic going on with the team and from what we can safely assume from what we see and hear, it's not the coach's fault.
Inzaghi has a long history of very bad numbers in defence. In 2016/17 he had worse numbers than De Boer/Pioli/Vecchi Inter!

2016/17: 51 goals conceded
2017/18: 49 goals conceded
2018/19: 46 goals conceded
2019/20: 42 goals conceded
2020/21: 55 goals conceded

When it comes to defence Inzaghi is a problem, not a solution.
 

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There's absolutely some blame in the context, but even from day 1 when Inzaghi joined (not literally 1) I said our defense looked much more undisciplined and disorganised. I don't see anything to suggest he knows how to actually structure and discipline a defense, which is why our very much top class defenders look like potatos on the pitch.
 

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Victor scores tons for Nigeria too. Nigeria are hardly a creative side...
I like Toro but he is not at Victor's level. Goes through too many goal droughts during a season.

In 2022 Osimhen scored 5 goals for Nigeria. 4 of them in a 10:0 victory against São Tomé and Príncipe. Lautaro scored 4.
 

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No one claimed that Inzaghi is a defensive coach or that he doesn't have any share of the blame here, but he doesn't deserve the lion share of it.

How was it that last season this wasn't a big issue? It was an even bigger issue with Conte's second season actually so claiming that he rode on that tail isn't valid.


We all saw that De Vrij started to dip after the contract talks stopped last November. He was impeccable till then. Spalletti called it, he's "sensitive".
 

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No one claimed that Inzaghi is a defensive coach or that he doesn't have any share of the blame here, but he doesn't deserve the lion share of it.

How was it that last season this wasn't a big issue? It was an even bigger issue with Conte's second season actually so claiming that he rode on that tail isn't valid.


We all saw that De Vrij started to dip after the contract talks stopped last November. He was impeccable till then. Spalletti called it, he's "sensitive".
Yet Conte won the league with so many defensive issues. Let’s see if Inzaghi can do the same
 

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Yet Conte won the league with so many defensive issues. Let’s see if Inzaghi can do the same
Against a weak league where Milan had Pioli in his first season, Juventus had a novice in Pirlo, while Roma and Napoli were a mess. Atalanta was his main rival which is funny to say out loud.
And Conte had 300m to spend. Inzaghi has -150m to spend.

He cannot win the league, no. Not under these circumstances. He cannot whine to turn back the clock and make De Vrij feel welcome, make Skriniar feel accepted and various other factors.
 

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Put some respect on Conte's name. If it wasn't for him, we would probably remain trophyless for years to come. The guy might be an asshole or whatever, but the fact that he leveled us up and managed to win a Scudetto, deserves credit. I don't like him, but I do have respect for what he has done in Inter.

Yes, he was paid well, he got his players and everything else. But we were kings of the league that time, and we won that most wanted Scudetto. Just the fact that he managed to bring that winning mentality among the players and how united the team was around with him, it makes me respect his work. It's a complete different story now.
 

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No one claimed that Inzaghi is a defensive coach or that he doesn't have any share of the blame here, but he doesn't deserve the lion share of it.

How was it that last season this wasn't a big issue? It was an even bigger issue with Conte's second season actually so claiming that he rode on that tail isn't valid.


We all saw that De Vrij started to dip after the contract talks stopped last November. He was impeccable till then. Spalletti called it, he's "sensitive".
It was an issue at the start of last season as well. In the first round there was lots of criticism, even from players, that we conceded a lot and we needed to change our approach. Problem is just aggrevated this season because Perisic defensive contribution is gone and Dumfries is out of form which has left cbs exposed.

As for Conte second season, it was a huge issue with his 3-4-1-2, high defensive lines and playing Kolarov as lcb. Once he switched back to 3-5-2 and brought lines lower things were a lot better and we finished the season with the best defence of the league.
 

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Against a weak league where Milan had Pioli in his first season, Juventus had a novice in Pirlo, while Roma and Napoli were a mess. Atalanta was his main rival which is funny to say out loud.
And Conte had 300m to spend. Inzaghi has -150m to spend.

He cannot win the league, no. Not under these circumstances. He cannot whine to turn back the clock and make De Vrij feel welcome, make Skriniar feel accepted and various other factors.
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I'm sure Spalletti could hv won that scudetto. But Spalletti didn't put pressure to make big buys so with that team was not possible to finally win. We needed Hakimi, Eriksen, Lukaku, and that's money.

Anyway if i was Conte i would do exactly the same. I don't want my name to be associated with shitty and cheap teams. Also it was so fucking great for him cause we are so dumb that we actually paid him to leave.
 

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Darmian was pretty damn good during Conte's time here, and not only, but somehow this season everything seems to be falling apart. Dumfries wasn't that bad either in the beginning, as he was very useful with both goals and assists even though he was tactically inferior to Darmian.

Perisic's departure has made the biggest impact in our team though. We were an unstoppable force in our left flank with both Bastoni and Perisic making combinations to open up and bring the creativity forward.

In this kind of situation, every little issue leads to another little issue and in the end it becomes a huge issue, which relies on coach to resolve it. I mean, we were far more direct in counter-attacking, more concrete, we were far more aggressive and everything else. These may not be the greatest things when you consider them but like puzzle, unless you get it done properly, it won't work.
 

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No one claimed that Inzaghi is a defensive coach or that he doesn't have any share of the blame here, but he doesn't deserve the lion share of it.

How was it that last season this wasn't a big issue? It was an even bigger issue with Conte's second season actually so claiming that he rode on that tail isn't valid.


We all saw that De Vrij started to dip after the contract talks stopped last November. He was impeccable till then. Spalletti called it, he's "sensitive".
the hangover of the Conte discipline?
 

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the hangover of the Conte discipline?

If you want to imagine things, let's also imagine the ghost of Helenio Herrera is giving Inter a boost in Europe now...
 

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Yes, because that makes sense?

Whereas playing the SAME THREE DEFENDERS 2 months earlier forming good habits, communication, and retaining some of their tactical discipline is just unbelievable?
 
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