2009/2010 Midfielders rumours topic

[Forza ragazzi]

First off, let's get this Adriano notion out of our heads. As much as we love him, let's be realistic- he's not going to regain world class form just like that.

Secondly, it is true taht we are lacking in the creativity department. First off, not only does our starting midfield right now (w/o Figo in it obviously) lacks any creativity at all, but Ibra is the only creativity up front. If Ibra gets injured, we need creativity in the 2 forwards department.

Even if Ibra is on his game, we need creativity from midfield. Figo? That's it? I don't like it.

I'm not at all convinced by Adriano. I used him as an example because he has the potential to save us as much as an purchase. And any purchase of a creative player who definitely will perform also in CL will probably cost 10-20m, which is not a sum to pay for a back-up. Not to mention that he will demand a starting spot! My point was, why buy another player that perhaps won't perform when we already have Adriano? Rather one than two failing talents.

I agree with you that our midfield is lacking creativity, but there just isn't space for a new playmaker now. Who to leave out? And remember Figo probably will have something to give next season as well.

My suggestion is to buy a back-up player who can provide a replacement for Figo's creativity by giving the team a different way to play. I hope you understand my difficult explanation. But the main point is that a creative player won't come cheap and will demand a starting spot, leaving us with an even greater problem; luxury.

 

[Pulsar36]

I don't think luxury is a problem at all. We had luxury in defense last year and it worked out quite fine. In fact, so fine that we are boosting that luxury or attempting to with Chivu. Whether I agree with it or not, that is not the question. But the fact that luxury worked alst year in defense and will work again- that is great.

The one thing I loved was that despite all the people out for our defense last year, they all got a chance. it was awesome. The same can happen in midfield, so people like Burdisso don't have to take over DM in a CL KNOCKOUT TIE!@!!!!!!

 

[Jimmy]

There aren't really any midfield issues in our team. We just got a bizarre timing last season when it came to defensive midfielders. Normally, we have FOUR players who can play that role. Cambiasso being the starter, with Dacourt as his back-up. Add Vieira and Zanetti to that list, and hell, even Stankovic is capable of playing that role.

As for attacking midfielders, Stankovic should be the starter, as we all saw how he excelled in that role in the first half of last season. Considered perhaps the best midfielder in Serie A for God sake. Then contemplate that his back-up is Luis Figo. Plus, we have Solari.

The only real player there's not a natural back-up to is Patrick Vieira. We have no player like him. That's why I wanted a guy like Muntari. However, this can be solved with Zanetti and Stankovic's versitality. Vieira out = Zanetti on the right, Stankovic on the left and Figo central.

Jimenez is an alright player, perhaps even a very good player. He suits our tactics, okay. Not physical enough though, I'm afraid. But he can play in our tactics. Only problem is his attitude which seems to stink. He cause havoc in any team he plays for. If he accepts the bench, he's a good signing and our midfield is more than complete. If not, he will just be a dressing room problem, considering he will hardly be a consistent starter for us.

 

[Forza ragazzi]

I don't think luxury is a problem at all. We had luxury in defense last year and it worked out quite fine. In fact, so fine that we are boosting that luxury or attempting to with Chivu. Whether I agree with it or not, that is not the question. But the fact that luxury worked alst year in defense and will work again- that is great.

The one thing I loved was that despite all the people out for our defense last year, they all got a chance. it was awesome. The same can happen in midfield, so people like Burdisso don't have to take over DM in a CL KNOCKOUT TIE!@!!!!!!

Just because it worked at the back, doesn't mean it will in the middle. I thought you had a better argument.

If we buy a back-up player whose natural position is DM or CM, we won't have to play Burdisso, who btw wasn't to blame for our exit, in an important match.

We do not need to strenghen our first four in midfield, we need to build up a back-up line for them.

Starters: Zanetti, Dejan, Vieira, Cuchu
Back-ups: Dacourt, Solari, newbie
Half starter: Figo

And Dacourt did very well last year!

 

[neroazzurri]

what about Amantino Mancini from Roma, I read on C4 that he's not too happy with his salary and will walk away if it's not increased to 2mil / season. I think he would be a nice addition, although he is a winger...he's only 26.

Does anyone else like him?

 

[gspath]

Starters: Zanetti, Dejan, Vieira, Cuchu
is exactly what we mean by saying not enough creativity....
These 4 cannot play together in midfield....
They are 3 defensive oriented players and Dejan who is half offensive - defensive player....

That is our problem and we MUST solve it if we want to do well in CL.

 

[M.Adnan]

Starters: Zanetti, Dejan, Vieira, Cuchu
is exactly what we mean by saying not enough creativity....
These 4 cannot play together in midfield....
They are 3 defensive oriented players and Dejan who is half offensive - defensive player....

That is our problem and we MUST solve it if we want to do well in CL.

With that midfield we were leading 4-1 in the first derby. Actually, Dacourt was playing instead of Cambiasso, so a weaker midfield than that was leading 4-1 (before Materazzi had the red card and before Vieira got injuried).

Almost the same midfield (with Figo instead of Zanetti) scored 4 goals against Roma in one game (when it was 0-3 for them).

 

[Forza ragazzi]

With that midfield we were leading 4-1 in the first derby. Actually, Dacourt was playing instead of Cambiasso, so a weaker midfield than that was leading 4-1 (before Materazzi had the red card and before Vieira got injuried).

Almost the same midfield (with Figo instead of Zanetti) scored 4 goals against Roma in one game (when it was 0-3 for them).

We beat Viola 3-2 away (were 3-0 up) with Dacourt, Vieira (Stankovic), Zanetti, Cuchu (Grosso) in midfield. The same midfield minus Dacourt plus Stankovic won 3-1 at home vs Viola.

Not as great feats as Roma and Milan, but it shows the midfield do work.

 

[neroazzurri]

From Sport.Alice.it



Visite mediche per Jimenez
13 07 2007
Questa mattina Luis Jimenez, fantasista della Lazio il cui cartellino appartiene alla Ternana, ha sostenuto le visite mediche per l'Inter.

Nel pomeriggio il giocatore dovrebbe firmare l'accordo con la società nerazzurra, che ne preleverà il prestito oneroso (un milione a stagione) e il diritto di riscatto con il club umbro, previsto per giugno 2008 e già fissato in undici milioni di euro.

Voci da Roma parlano anche di una sorta di "rimborso" nerazzurro alla Lazio per aver "girato" il prestito al club milanese, rinunciando al giocatore in anticipo rispetto ai precedenti accordi con la Ternana.

 

[Pulsar36]

what about Amantino Mancini from Roma, I read on C4 that he's not too happy with his salary and will walk away if it's not increased to 2mil / season. I think he would be a nice addition, although he is a winger...he's only 26.

Does anyone else like him?

We don't play with wingers...and he wouldn't be useful in a central role like many other wingers would be (example Quaresma)

Plus he's good for big time counter attacking teams

 

[Kraits]

First off, let's get this Adriano notion out of our heads. As much as we love him, let's be realistic- he's not going to regain world class form just like that.

Secondly, it is true taht we are lacking in the creativity department. First off, not only does our starting midfield right now (w/o Figo in it obviously) lacks any creativity at all, but Ibra is the only creativity up front. If Ibra gets injured, we need creativity in the 2 forwards department.

Even if Ibra is on his game, we need creativity from midfield. Figo? That's it? I don't like it.

I agree with you also..
the thing is with a good performer play maker we would have a better chance to fight in CL.
Thus i dont see the real need of jimenez also coz little chance he would be the player to push us future in the CL.
Anyway he is a good option(for the money spend) as a back up to Figo.. but surely not the sure starter that i hope for...

Since INTER has confirm to go for jimenez, i would still hope for a real good play maker... even without one, i believe with the current Cambiasso-Vieira-Zanetti-Stankovic, we are still good enough to fight in CL..

 

[Alex de Large]

CL has nothing to do with have a good squad, scudetto yes, the best usually wins, but let's see who won CL this last season, a team with ¿ambrosini? on the lineup, come on guys.

 

[Forza ragazzi]

CL has nothing to do with have a good squad, scudetto yes, the best usually wins, but let's see who won CL this last season, a team with ¿ambrosini? on the lineup, come on guys.

It's not always the quality of each individual player that makes the difference. Some players just need to suit for the benefit of the team.

 

[Efrain21C]

OFf topic sorry

What happened to the thread that was always open last season? Let's say

Jimenez 50%..
Nasri 30%

That said the % of the rumours?

 

[gspath]

Come on you cannot be saying that because AC Milan won the CL with Ambrosini, we should sign big players, or because you need to be lucky to win CL we should not try to make a good squad.

If make a good team (and I agree that team is more important than individuals) you are increasing your probabilities to win CL. I do not want to sign 5-6 new players for the starting line up.

I am asking for 1 world class attacking midfielder.....

This will not destroy harmony of last years good team.

And because with this mf we have had some good games and scored many goals it does not mean that it is ok.

With your logic we are going to have the same results. We are surely no CL contenters cause there are about 5 teams much better than ours and we will fight for Serie A with a better Milan and the new Juventus...

Ir is not enough for me

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Just thank god, that that one attacking midfielder didnt turn out to be Nedved. We made a bid for him, and he was even considering us. Why are we so interested in all of Juve crap, I don't know.

 

[Pulsar36]

OFf topic sorry

What happened to the thread that was always open last season? Let's say

Jimenez 50%..
Nasri 30%

That said the % of the rumours?

Acquisti
Crespo Hernan Jorge (Chelsea, rinnovo prestito, attaccante, 32 anni)
Suazo David (Cagliari, titolo definitivo, attaccante, 14 mln €, 27 anni)
Acquafresca Robert (Treviso, risc. comproprietà, 2.3 mln €, attaccante, 19 anni)
Coco Francesco (Torino, fine prestito, terz sinistro, 29 anni)
Cesar Aparecido (Livorno, fine prestito, esterno sinistro, 32 anni)
Piovaccari Federico (Triestina, fine prestito, attaccante, 23 anni)
Deinite Matteo (Milan, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 24 anni)
Gerbo Alberto (FC Giaveno, centr.offensivo, definitivo, 18 anni)
Papa Salvatore (Rende, prestito con diritto di riscatto, centrocampista, 17 anni)
D'Angelo Francesco (Rende, prestito con diritto di riscatto, centrocampista, 17 anni)
Semenzato Daniel (Montichiari, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 20 anni)
Giordano Matteo (Milan, riscatto comproprietà, difensore, 24 anni)
Nossa Devis (San Marino, riscatto comproprietà, terzino destro, 22 anni)
Meggiorini Riccardo (Cittadella, fine prestito, attaccante, 22 anni)
Lombardo Matteo (Pistoiese, fine prestito, esterno dx/sx, 22 anni)
Aloe Ilario (Ravenna, fine prestito, centrocampista/attaccante, 21 anni)
Napolitano Nicola (Cremonese, fine prestito, centrocampista, 24 anni)
Giani Nicolas (Pro Patria, fine prestito, dif.centrale, 21 anni)
Bindi Giacomo (Varese, fine prestito, portiere, 20 anni)
Germinale Domenico (Pizzighettone, fine prestito, attaccante, 20 anni)
Fatic Ivan (Chievo, comproprietà, esterno sinistro, 19 anni)
Filippini Marco (Montichiari, titolo definitivo, terzino destro, 19 anni)
Fossati Marco Enzo (titolo definitivo, centrocampista, 15 anni)
Meioni Matteo (Sancolombano, titolo definitivo, 14 anni)
Napoli Aiman (Pro Sesto, comproprietà, attaccante, 18 anni)
Federici Daniele (Pro Sesto, comproprietà, dif.centrale, 19 anni)
Berto Carlo (Casier Dosson, titolo definitivo, portiere, 14 anni)
Crisetig Lorenzo (A.S.D Donatello, titolo definitivo, centrocampista esterno, 14 anni)

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Trattative avanzate

90% Jimenez Luis (Ternana, prestito, fantasista, 23 anni)

80% Rivas Nelson Enrique López (River Plate, titolo definitivo, dif.centrale, 24 anni)

75% Chivu Cristian (Roma, titolo definitivo, 13 mln €, dif.centrale, 26 anni)

70% Kováč Radoslav (Spartak Mosca, titolo definitivo, 5 mln €, difens./centrocamp., 27 anni)

65% Viviano Emiliano (Brescia, titolo definitivo, 5 mln €, portiere, 21 anni)

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Interessamenti

20% Pato Alexandre Rodrigues da Silva (Porto Alegre, attaccante, 18 mln €, 17 anni)

20% Diarra Mahamadou (Real Madrid, centrocampista, 20 mln €, 26 anni)

20% Maresca Enzo (Siviglia, titolo definitivo, 6 mln €, centrocampista, 27 anni)

20% Nasri Samir (Marsiglia, centrocampista, 20 mln, 20 anni)

10% Cassano Antonio (Real Madrid, attaccante, 6 mln €, 25 anni)

10% Eto'o Samuel (Barcellona, attaccante, 30 mln € + Adriano, 26 anni)
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Cessioni
Pizarro David Marcelo (Roma, riscatto comproprietà, 5.75 mln €, regista, 27 anni)
Pasquale Giovanni (Livorno, riscatto comproprietà, terzino sinistro, 25 anni)
Gonzales Mariano (Palermo, fine prestito, ala, 26 anni)
Grosso Fabio (Lione, titolo definitivo, 5 mln €, terzino sinistro, 29 anni)
Carini Fabian (scadenza contratto, portiere, 28 anni)
Choutos Lambros (scadenza contratto, attaccante, 28 anni)
Acquafresca Robert (Cagliari, comproprietà, attaccante, 3 mln €, 19 anni)
Valeri Carl (Grosseto, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 23 anni)
Beati Nicola (Arezzo, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 24 anni)
Trezzi Carlo Raffaele (Pro Patria, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 25 anni)
Ticli Giuseppe (Milan, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 28 anni)
Russo Nello (Crotone, riscatto comproprietà, attaccante, 26 anni)
Rebecchi Mario (Lumezzane, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 24 anni)
Ferraro Salvatore (Milan, riscatto comproprietà, difensore, 24 anni)
Donazzan Nicola (Mantova, riscatto comproprietà, difensore, 22 anni)
Marino Dino (Pro Patria, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 22 anni)
Momentè Matteo (Venezia, riscatto comproprietà, attaccante, 20 anni)
Moreau Mathieu (Lucchese, riscatto comproprietà, portiere, 24 anni)
Palazzo Luca (Pro Sesto, riscatto comproprietà, centrocampista, 20 anni)
Nossa Devis (Pro Patria, comproprietà, terzino destro, 22 anni)
Piovaccari Federico (Treviso, comproprietà, attaccante, 23 anni)
Semenzato Daniel (Portogruaro, comproprietà, centrocampista, 20 anni)
Moscatiello Luca (Fulham, titolo definitivo, centrocampista, 16 anni)

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In Partenza

85% Recoba Alvaro (?, svincolato, 0 €, attaccante, 31 anni)

80% Obinna Victor Nsofor (Roma, prestito, attaccante, 20 anni)

65% Andreolli Marco (Parma, prestito, difensore, 21 anni)

40% Toldo Francesco (Real Madrid-Betis, portiere, 35 anni)
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Richieste

20% Samuel Walter Adrian (Roma, 9 mln €, dif centrale, 29 anni)

15% Ibrahimovic Zlatan (Real Madrid, 50 mln €, attaccante, 26 anni)

15% Materazzi Marco (Barcellona, 12 mln €, dif centrale, 34 anni)

15% Burdisso Nicolas (Barcellona-Juventus, difensore, 26 anni)
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Rinnovo comproprietà
Siqueira Guilherme (Udinese, centrocampista, 21 anni)
Eliakwu Abdullahi Isah (Triestina, attaccante, 22 anni)
Ceccarelli Luca (Milan, difensore, 23 anni)
Varaldi Marco (Milan, portiere, 25 anni)
Toma Ronny Diuk (Milan, centrocampista, 24 anni)
Bonucci Leonardo (Treviso, difensore, 20 anni)
Cordaz Alex (Treviso, portiere, 24 anni)
Maa Boumsong Daniel (Treviso, centrocampista, 20 anni)
Dalla Costa Marco (Pro Sesto, attaccante, 19 anni)
Federici Daniele (Pro Sesto, difensore)

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ROSA ATTUALE
Portieri: Francesco Toldo (scad.contratto 2009), Julio Cesar (s.c. 2012), Paolo Orlandoni (s.c. 2008)

Difensori: Javier Zanetti (s.c. 2010), Ivan Ramiro Cordoba (s.c. 2008), Walter Samuel (s.c. 2009), Marco Materazzi (s.c. 2010), Nicolas Burdisso (s.c. 2009), Douglas Sisenando Maicon (s.c. 2011), Marco Andreolli (s.c. 2011), Francesco Coco (s.c. 2009);

Centrocampisti: Luis Figo (s.c. 2008), Esteban Cambiasso (s.c. 2010), Patrick Vieira (s.c. 2010), Dejan Stankovic (s.c. 2010), Santiago Solari (s.c. 2008), Olivier Dacourt (s.c. 2008), Andrade Maxwell (s.c. 2010), Aparecido Rodrigues Cesar (s.c. 2008);

Attaccanti: Julio Cruz (s.c. 2008), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (s.c. 2010), David Suazo (s.c. 2012), Hernan Jorge Crespo (s.c. 2010), Leite Ribeiro Adriano (s.c. 2010), Alvàro Recoba (s.c. 2008).

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- - - - - - - - - - Julio Cesar -- - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - (Toldo) -- - - - - - - - - - -

- - Maicon - - Cordoba - - Materazzi - - Maxwell - -
- (Andreolli - - Burdisso - - Samuel - - Coco) - -

- - - - - Vieira - - Cambiasso - - Zanetti - - - - -
- - - - - (Figo - - - Dacourt - - - Cesar) -- - - -

- - - - - - - - - - Stankovic -- - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - (Solari) - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - Ibrahimovic - - - Crespo - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - (Cruz/Adriano - - - - SUAZO) - - - - - - - -

 

[Efrain21C]

that's pure gold Pulsar, thank you

 

[Forza ragazzi]

Man, I've been looking for that!

Pulsar, would you please post the adress? Thanks.

 

[Pulsar36]

http://www.interfans.org/forum/showthread.php?t=67015