2016/2017 Midfielder Rumours Thread

[bandiera]

It COULD play a factor why he did it or may not thats not what i was talking about in the first place so I wont even talk about that cause for me thats irrelevant and again im talking about in general and its simply no need to prove anything in regards of that Seria A and La Liga is higher rated for south americans than EPL wether or not you can comprehend that or not, absolutely noone cause its so blatantly obvious and even if you need evidence take a look of who many south americans EPL has vs Serie A or La Liga......Your obvously only arguing for the sake of arguing, you dont even understand what your arguing about cause your talking about stuff I didnt mention and dont even understand that i talk about IN GENERAL, are you on your period or whats going on? cause you feel awfully like my girlfriend in that regard

Peace out

you weren't talking about banega? then why did you bring it up in reply to a post wera made about banega not necessarily being driven here by history?

what does "in general" even mean? that was my point, it's irrelevant even if most south americans are fans of inter and even if they will make professional decisions based on being "fans", that doesn't prove that's what banega made his decision. i don't think you understand what you're arguing. and yes, you need to prove shitty ass serie a is more popular in south america than PL. or that inter has more exposure than fucking manchester united in south america. no one gives a fuck about icardi in argentina or batted an eye when gerardo martino didn't call him up for years on the basis of "off the field issues" and said he's competing with calleri. on that basis alone, i don't think it's probable most south americans give a shit about inter. i don't see any argument or evidence that can back that claim.

more south american players in serie a means the league has more exposure in south america or that most south americans follow serie a and most south americans are inter fans? no it doesn't. just to make it clearer, do you think a league that has featured di maria, falcao, aguero, willian, david luiz, coutinho and with a lot of marketing power has more exposure than a shit league with a fuckload of mediocre south american players + dybala, icardi, higuain, bacca?

you need to relax. you're saying a lot of things without any evidence, then you use vague terms like "in general" to cover up what you said being completely incoherent, and finally you get upset when someone calls you out on it. :rollani:

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Yeah he didn't make the distinction, but that's what I assume he meant.
I can't prove it, and I don't think it's entirely based on who they support (but I imagine watching certain leagues when young can make an impression). The cultural similarities, language etc plays a major factor too, you can't deny that Argentinians tend to come to Serie a or Colombians for example go to Portugual, and not South America I know but Japanese talents go to Bundesliga (maybe the work ethic?), so I think you can see correlations in why some players from outside of Europe choose certain leagues to start their European careers. I just think it's easier for South American players to choose, La Liga, Serie a and the Portuguese league over Epl to begin with.

just for the record though, i don't think more japanese players go to bundesliga or more south americans go to portugal vs PL because they're more appealing. that could be a factor based on the project and as you said culture (all career related factors), but i think it's more that bundesliga clubs and portuguese clubs and italian clubs look at south american players more than PL clubs.

 

[phenomeno]

OK.
he didn't make that distinction and in any case i don't think players in the argentine league for example would choose us because of having players like zanetti, samuel, recoba etc. or because they supported inter
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Dude read it in the correct context if your smart enough, I said that in regards that people grow up watching fotball and idolizing people and for south americans more so do for teams in Seria A with FOR INSTANCE Inter, or juve or Napoli or La Liga with Barca, Real etc MOST of them doesnt grow up wanting to become gerrard or play with the liverpool jersey on...do you get what im trying to explain to you ?

Also stating that affections doesnt take part of a decision just simply shows that you cant be very educated cause every human beeing is lead by emotions and emotions also is part of controlling your mind.


The sooner you get that im talking about in general Serie A and La liga and not Inter necessarily AND for most not everyone the better of are we....I cant believe i just wasted 40min of my life bothering to explaining what i mean to you, but hopefully you get what im saying if you disagree with what im saying thats totally fine I would just appriciate if you didnt just copy paste a few things and leave out the context of it or copy pasting things without taking with the entire sentence cause even if you dont comprehend understanding it some others may.

Also its simply no need to prove anything in regards of that Seria A and La Liga is higher rated for south americans than EPL wether or not you can comprehend that or not, absolutely noone cause its so blatantly obvious for most people and if its not for you thats okei I just cba beeing the one tutoring you about something that fundamental

you're saying a lot of things without any evidence, then you use vague terms like "in general" to cover up what you said being completely incoherent, and finally you get upset when someone calls you out on it. :rollani:

Have a nice evening and rest assure noone got upset :dielaugh:

 

[Zoro]

just for the record though, i don't think more japanese players go to bundesliga or more south americans go to portugal vs PL because they're more appealing. that could be a factor based on the project and as you said culture (all career related factors), but i think it's more that bundesliga clubs and portuguese clubs and italian clubs look at south american players more than PL clubs.

I think you're probably right, with regards to the clubs looking at them, but I think language helps when assimilating to a new environment as well, so for that reason I think Argentinians at least, would choose a Serie a club (to begin with) over an Epl club, not all of course. I'm sure having other people of their own nationality in the clubs also help, right now if an Argentian player came to Inter he would have a lot more people to talk to than, I dunno Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal? So maybe that had a factor on why Banega chose Inter? He did say at least once if I remember correctly that speaking to Zanetti helped him decide (I dunno if that's exactly what he said)?

 

[bandiera]

I think you're probably right, with regards to the clubs looking at them, but I think language helps when assimilating to a new environment as well, so for that reason I think Argentinians at least, would choose a Serie a club (to begin with) over an Epl club, not all of course. I'm sure having other people of their own nationality in the clubs also help, right now if an Argentian player came to Inter he would have a lot more people to talk to than, I dunno Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal? So maybe that had a factor on why Banega chose Inter? He did say at least once if I remember correctly that speaking to Zanetti helped him decide (I dunno if that's exactly what he said)?

i don't think that necessarily means he signed here just because he spoke to zanetti. imagine if zanetti called him up, said some dumb shit and hanged up. do you think it's probable that would have encouraged him to sign for inter? i think it has more to do with the conversation he had with zanetti. true, having more people to relate to could potentially be a pull factor.

 

[Zoro]

i don't think that means he signed here just because he spoke to zanetti. imagine if zanetti called him up, said some dumb shit and hanged up. do you think it's probable that would have encouraged him to sign for inter? i think it has more to do with the conversation he had with zanetti. true, having more people to relate to could potentially be a pull factor.

No of course not some dumb shit, I'm sure it was something to do with the project (haha) and how he is going to be the main man here etc. Although tbf I dunno what anybody says at our club to convince anybody to come over in our current state.
But do you not think having Palacio, Icardi, Ansaldi, Carrizo (I know laughable) playing here, and having others like Zanetti to be able to talk to whilst playing for us, would help him choose Inter over clubs in Epl (like Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea) that don't have such an Argentinian presence? Don't get me wrong having the guaranteed starting spot and others are probably more important to any player, but after that having fellow countrymen I'm sure helps.

 

[bandiera]

No of course not some dumb shit, I'm sure it was something to do with the project (haha) and how he is going to be the main man here etc. Although tbf I dunno what anybody says at our club to convince anybody to come over in our current state.
But do you not think having Palacio, Icardi, Ansaldi, Carrizo (I know laughable) playing here, and having others like Zanetti to be able to talk to whilst playing for us, would help him choose Inter over clubs in Epl (like Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea) that don't have such an Argentinian presence? Don't get me wrong having the guaranteed starting spot and others are probably more important to any player, but after that having fellow countrymen I'm sure helps.

no, i agree with you. who knows really. maybe he was assured by the number of argentine players at the club. just for the record i think its also possible that the argentine players made banega more comfortable to come here. for example, i know palacio knows banega well and zanetti's phone call seemingly encouraged him to sign for inter. at the end of the day these are all theoreticals (and we're talking about probabilities) because we don't have any idea of what actually goes on.

 

[Zoro]

Oh I'm sure that knowing someone beforehand also helped, and you're right we won't ever really know why he chose unless he comes out and specifically says so. I'm just glad that he is here, and hope Mancini knows to play him tbh.

 

[Wings]

Yeah he didn't make the distinction, but that's what I assume he meant.
I can't prove it, and I don't think it's entirely based on who they support (but I imagine watching certain leagues when young can make an impression). The cultural similarities, language etc plays a major factor too, you can't deny that Argentinians tend to come to Serie a or Colombians for example go to Portugual, and not South America I know but Japanese talents go to Bundesliga (maybe the work ethic?), so I think you can see correlations in why some players from outside of Europe choose certain leagues to start their European careers. I just think it's easier for South American players to choose, La Liga, Serie a and the Portuguese league over Epl to begin with.

I think you're placing far too much emphasis on cultural factors. I think most South Americans don't go straight to PL because of the difficulties in obtaining a work permit and (especially these days) even the poorest PL clubs are rich enough to mostly buy players already established in Europe. Whereas many South Americans can claim EU citizenship and face no such barriers moving to Italy. Japanese players go to Germany because there's lots of German agents with Japanese contacts, and the money thing again – Japanese players are fairly cheap, meaning low risk/potential high reward. Japanese players also don't qualify for EU quotas that many South Americans do, so Italy is not much of an option.

If we have a hard time convincing even childhood Inter fans like Berardi to come here, I can't imagine we have much sway over United with most South Americans.

 

[Il Drago]

Witsel agrees Inter terms
By Football Italia staff

Axel Witsel has reportedly agreed terms with Inter, but Zenit’s €22m asking price is a problem.

The Belgian international has been linked with a number of Serie A sides in recent years, including Juventus, Milan and Napoli.

However, Gazzetta dello Sport is now reporting that the Nerazzurri have agreed in principle a five-year contract with the 27-year-old, worth €3m per season.

Despite that, the deal is far from done as Zenit St Petersburg are demanding a big fee to let go of one of their prized assets.

The Russian side want €22m for Witsel, whose contract expires in a year, a price the Beneamata are reluctant to pay.

 

[Ronin]

Can anyone tell us what kind of (football) player he is? Never really followed him.

 

[DM_]

Can anyone tell us what kind of (football) player he is? Never really followed him.

Very good technically and very strong at the ball. His best position is box-to-box, but he can play as no.6 too. Just keeps the ball too long sometimes with Belgium (although that's because there is not enough movement without the ball in the team). He'll fit perfectly in Serie A I think.

 

[CafeCordoba]

In Euros, he played in quite deep position in the lower midfield.

 

[JJM]

We are after another Pescara player who was groomed at Roma
Valerio Verre,22 old CM who can play anyplace in MF according to Transfermarkt
Sauce: Di Marzio to Sky

 

[TheNetworkZ]

We are after another Pescara player who was groomed at Roma
Valerio Verre,22 old CM who can play anyplace in MF according to Transfermarkt
Sauce: Di Marzio to Sky

He used to be great a few FM titles ago. Nice.

 

[Il Drago]

There were reports linking him with Rube few weeks ago. Are we suddenly after promising Italian youngsters?

 

[JJM]

There were reports linking him with Rube few weeks ago. Are we suddenly after promising Italian youngsters?

yeah we got to stop Rube's reign of terror somehow,not right now of course,but this is the cheapest way tbh.Maybe they found a brain in the mgmt but I won't get my hopes up.

 

[Nero Indigo]

Verre oh yes! I like this kid a lot. I happened to catch some of his games randomly while he was at Perugia and Pescara, we definitely should buy him like we did Capriari and do the whole loan deal similarly. I hope this is a trend, we need to keep tabs on these kids.

 

[Stefan]

How do you know that is exactly why Banega chose Inter? Do you know Pajo's friend too? /old joke is old

But seriously, why could not the reason just be that we approached Banega, pursuited him for a long time and some kind of agreement was made that solified the transfer no matter which club wanted him? I don't see Messi lining up for Liverpool or Aguero for Nottingham Forest. You give the name too much importance. There are a lot of legendary clubs out there, one way or another.

There is no way for any of us to know exactly why Banega chose Inter, but I guess money and a starting position would be higher on that list than Inter being a big club, whatever importance that would make to him.

Would Klop have gone to LFC if they were in the exact same position without the name and history that lfc represents? I highly doubt it.

As for forest they are in no position to pursue anyone given their league and financial positions.

 

[ADRossi]

Would Klop have gone to LFC if they were in the exact same position without the name and history that lfc represents? I highly doubt it.

As for forest they are in no position to pursue anyone given their league and financial positions.

Considering Liverpool are one of the wealthiest clubs in the world and have given him total authority of decision making...

 

[wera]

You are really a big club only if you maintain the perks of a big club. But then you don't really join because of the name, but because of the said perks. The name is just an illusion. 20 years ago Chelsea wasn't a big club and look at them now.