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If we go fully Conte way we pass on Tonali and sign Vidal. For example.

And if we went fully Mou , we would go Carvalho , Deko instead of Lucio , Snejder. Like we went Mancini, Quaresma the year before.
That is why the club should have its own vision and decision makers .
 

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And if we went fully Mou , we would go Carvalho , Deko instead of Lucio , Snejder. Like we went Mancini, Quaresma the year before.
That is why the club should have its own vision and decision makers .

Exactly.
 

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And if we went fully Mou , we would go Carvalho , Deko instead of Lucio , Snejder. Like we went Mancini, Quaresma the year before.
That is why the club should have its own vision and decision makers .

No one is suggesting we should go "full Conte" or give Conte exactly the player(s) he asks for. Its the role of the DS to decide which player we should buy. But if Conte asks for Alonso, the DS should decide whether to get Alonso or someone better in that position. But you cannot give him Biraghi instead, just coz 4 years later the new coach may not need a wingback. THAT would be moronic.

Even in your example when Mou asked for Deco, we gave him Sneijder. Thats the right way. We didn't give him a DM instead. In fact that season validates my point, a lot of players we bought that summer were focussed buys for the PRESENT, and not the future. Players like Milito, Lucio, Eto'o etc were old players bought for the immediate need. To win stuff.

We ain't going to win anything with the likes of Candreva or Young as our starting wingbacks. We gotta give Conte better players for those positions, it doesn't have to be the same player that Conte asks for. When you have committed 100s of millions on a project already, don't fuck it up by not following through. Lets spend some money and get two good wingbacks.
 
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It's ironic because Conte is the reason why Candreva was not put up for sale and he wanted to use him.
 

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It's ironic because Conte is the reason why Candreva was not put up for sale and he wanted to use him.

Not ironic at all, it was logical. Among the players we have for that role, Candreva is the best we got. If we sold Candreva, we would have been left with the likes of Dumbo to play as wingback. Dumbo is a decent defensive fullback, but he is shite as wingback.

IMO there is no excuse for not buying a top RWB (and LWB) this window. These two positions are in more dire need for upgrade.
 

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Not ironic at all, it was logical. Among the players we have for that role, Candreva is the best we got. If we sold Candreva, we would have been left with the likes of Dumbo to play as wingback. Dumbo is a decent defensive fullback, but he is shite as wingback.

IMO there is no excuse for not buying a top RWB (and LWB) this window. These two positions are in more dire need for upgrade.

Top wingbacks don't exist. Please, tell me what top wingback we can sign? Chiesa isn't a wingback and we have no evidence he'll be "top" in that role. A washed-up has-been like Alonso, who fell out of favor in Conte's second season at Chelsea? The problem with this ridiculous position is that hardly any teams actually use wingbacks, so you're going to have to sign a player who has little experience playing in the position and hope you can fit the square peg into the round hole. Sincerely, Valentino Lazaro.

In a dream scenario we poach Gosens from Atalanta.
 

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Conte found a good position for Candreva. He is bearable as wing back and actually nobody would have bought him after the last season where he was joke level of player.
 

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Wish Candreva wasn't such a selfish player in front of goal. His crosses, movement, ball control, and work rate are still class. He's actually a decent defender too.

The problem is that the tactics give him lots of opportunities to attack the net and he tries to revert to his 27 y/o Lazio self...

There's no ignoring he's at the very end of his career. We need to sign a starter and integrate him into the team for the long term. Gosens seems one of the only good options that won't cost Icardi money.
 

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No one is suggesting we should go "full Conte" or give Conte exactly the player(s) he asks for. Its the role of the DS to decide which player we should buy. But if Conte asks for Alonso, the DS should decide whether to get Alonso or someone better in that position. But you cannot give him Biraghi instead, just coz 4 years later the new coach may not need a wingback. THAT would be moronic.

Even in your example when Mou asked for Deco, we gave him Sneijder. Thats the right way. We didn't give him a DM instead. In fact that season validates my point, a lot of players we bought that summer were focussed buys for the PRESENT, and not the future. Players like Milito, Lucio, Eto'o etc were old players bought for the immediate need. To win stuff.

We ain't going to win anything with the likes of Candreva or Young as our starting wingbacks. We gotta give Conte better players for those positions, it doesn't have to be the same player that Conte asks for. When you have committed 100s of millions on a project already, don't fuck it up by not following through. Lets spend some money and get two good wingbacks.

True but i dont have the feeling that the club is not backing up Conte. Especially Marotta who chose him single handlely.
But there is budget constraints and we can't expect to have full team reshuffled in the 1st year.
As i've said in a previous post i am worried about the lack of rumors of us going after some top wing back for next year.
If we don't manage to sign anyone in the wings this year then i agree with you that we have failed Conte.

That said Tonali is too big of a prospect to miss just because the coach would prefer to go for Vidal. Vidal can offer more chances to win for 1 year maybe but Tonali can do that for the next decade if he realizes his potential. Not sure if you remember but De Laurentis had Verrati basically signed in 2012 but Mazarri didn't consider him suitable for his tactics so De La let him go. I am sure we agree 8 years later that he did a mistake.
 

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Top wingbacks don't exist. Please, tell me what top wingback we can sign? Chiesa isn't a wingback and we have no evidence he'll be "top" in that role. A washed-up has-been like Alonso, who fell out of favor in Conte's second season at Chelsea? The problem with this ridiculous position is that hardly any teams actually use wingbacks, so you're going to have to sign a player who has little experience playing in the position and hope you can fit the square peg into the round hole. Sincerely, Valentino Lazaro.

In a dream scenario we poach Gosens from Atalanta.

Hakimi is someone that exists, top wingback....and would astronomically improve the right. Gosens in Atlanta player I'm still weary of any Atlanta players in general.

There are more and more articles linking Inter to Hakimi, is there any credible sources who has linked us with him but?
 

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When you have committed 100s of millions on a project already, don't fuck it up by not following through.

This is what I keep telling myself when I see my stocks going down :lol:
 

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So called sunk cost fallacy :troll:
 

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GdS Report: Inter dream of Hakimi

Inter are allegedly dreaming of a move for Real Madrid loanee Achraf Hakimi, who scored a brace against the Nerazzurri in Europe this term. Hakimi has found continuity on loan at Borussia Dortmund this campaign and has showcased his skills on the biggest stage of European football, with four goals in eight games for Die Schwarzgelben in the Champions League.

The right-back’s performances have, according to La Gazzetta dello Sport, prompted Inter to look for the resources to start negotiating with Los Blancos. However, Juventus have also targeted the Morocco international, who has been valued at €50m by Real Madrid after contributing three goals and 10 assists in his 26 Bundesliga matches for BVB.

The Nerazzurri dream of bringing him to San Siro, but the newspaper claims the road could be too complicated for the Italian giants. Victor Moses looks set to leave Inter when his initial loan deal expires, as CEO Beppe Marotta does not seem willing to pay the €12m agreed with Chelsea in January and Hakimi has been identified as the ideal replacement for the Nigerian.

> I would pay €50m with my eyes closed, just don`t see Real Madrid selling him, let alone for this price.
His stats are INSANE!!! 38 matches, 7 goals & 10 assists.

Honestly can`t think of a better signing for the right side... Dream indeed. Spanish newspaper AS are linking Hakimi’s future to Real’s right-back Daniel Carvajal. He is a regular starter at the club and could stand in Hakimi’s way just like he did for Álvaro Odriozola, who then joined Bayern Munich on loan.
Have reported this on May 19 :datass:

Jesus Christ, never did I think I'd see the day where we'd be linked with a quality fullback. Hakimi would literally be the first player I'd buy if I were in charge.

He's not coming. Never ever, that man has got a starting spot at Real Madrid sewn up for the next few years.
:D Fun to read it now :D

Hopefully my reply to ADRossi on the other thread is going to be right :D
 

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According to Independent, Inter tried to sign Angel Gomez of Man Utd on a free transfer in January.

In January, The Independent understands that Gomes’s father travelled to Spain and Italy for meetings with Barcelona and Inter Milan – the latter also expressing a strong interest in United teammate Tahith Chong. Both clubs were keen to investigate Gomes’s situation, but the financial aspects of any deal were considered “unattractive”, while there were few added incentives over playing time.
 

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Some interista friends are sending me messages about Conte calling Alaba to convince him... I don`t know maaaaaan, how could Inter afford his salary? I think he is just using our interest to get a raise there..

Junior Firpo loan + option to buy sounds more Inter to me, but I can imagine Conte wants someone from Chelsea again.
 

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If we can afford Eriksen we can afford anyone except Messi and Ronaldo. Eriksen was one of the hottest buys in EPL and he choose us so Alaba is not impossible.
 

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Some interista friends are sending me messages about Conte calling Alaba to convince him... I don`t know maaaaaan, how could Inter afford his salary? I think he is just using our interest to get a raise there..

Junior Firpo loan + option to buy sounds more Inter to me, but I can imagine Conte wants someone from Chelsea again.

Twitter is full of "insiders" who are spreading rumours about Inter and Alaba. I am not buying it. In England they report Alaba favors a switch to Barca or Real if he leaves Bayern and it sounds realistic to me.

The problem with Firpo is Barca value him at 40m and they will only let him join Inter if they get Lautaro so no thanks.
 
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