2020/2021 Goalkeepers Rumours Thread

[CafeCordoba]

Padelli signed an extension today.

 

[nurko]

jokes aside i dont see why people are so content with the berni stuff. its not that long ago that even carrizo/castellazzi had to play a few games for us. Our players should add value, and its clear Berni doesnt tbh. Fine, he's on a nothing salary, but still. I'm sure we must be able to find a better club trained keeper for the 3rd spot tbh.

Well Berni had value, bunch of cards and suspensions without playing a game, he sure knew how to ruffle a few feathers from the touchline

 

[Minardista]

Well Berni had value, bunch of cards and suspensions without playing a game, he sure knew how to ruffle a few feathers from the touchline

Berni's so good at getting cards he should work at fucking Hallmark.

Unfortunately, Berni's so bad between the sticks that he couldn't save a fucking Word document.

 

[crzdcolombian]

Haha rumors in Colombia and South America is Inter Wants Colombia’s back up keeper as Handa’s backup.

Dude is 30 already and isn’t very good. Surprised he started in qualifiers. He probably most Colombians 5th choice of goalie. He isn’t the best goalie in the Mexican league either super random rumor. I did see it in tribal football haha thought it was funny

I feel tribal goes on fan threads and then post

 

[MakavelInterista]

So I think it’s officially official and can’t be denied anymore, I love our Handy Dandy goalkeeper but he’s not at that level anymore and we need to move on.

Who are we looking at? Dragowski, Strakosha, Meret?

I have no idea honestly but something needs to be done

 

[Sawyer]

So I think it’s officially official and can’t be denied anymore, I love our Handy Dandy goalkeeper but he’s not at that level anymore and we need to move on.

Who are we looking at? Dragowski, Strakosha, Meret?

I have no idea honestly but something needs to be done

As upsetting as it is, I think this is Handa's last season with us. I hope he plays out the season though, he's still good enough and deserves not to be replaced mid-season ie January.

As for prospects there is a lot of quality out there one I'd like to see which would be unpopular I think is Kepa.. dropped by Chelsea.. he just needs a ressurgance.

 

[brightbackground]

Allegedly Inter have identified Musso as Handa's successor but IMO he's mediocre. If that's the level we're aiming at we may as well keep Radu who costs nothing, and if we're willing to pay there's better options elsewhere. I say go for Onana from Ajax.

 

[Sawyer]

Allegedly Inter have identified Musso as Handa's successor but IMO he's mediocre. If that's the level we're aiming at we may as well keep Radu who costs nothing, and if we're willing to pay there's better options elsewhere. I say go for Onana from Ajax.

I like Onana, i'd be happy with that choice for sure. Never heard of Musso (I obviously have) so lets not sign him. 1 good performance v us is where that rumour came from.

 

[brehme1989]

Allegedly Inter have identified Musso as Handa's successor but IMO he's mediocre. If that's the level we're aiming at we may as well keep Radu who costs nothing, and if we're willing to pay there's better options elsewhere. I say go for Onana from Ajax.

Musso is better than Onana honestly.

 

[Il Drago]

Musso is better than Onana honestly.

Since you watch Ligue 1 a lot, what's your opinion on Maignan of Lille? I haven't watched him a lot but whenever i have he looks really promising.

 

[YoramG]

Goalkeeper is somewhere we should spend a lot on to be honest. They need to radiate confidence and self-assurance, and be commanding in the penalty box. Watching Handa recently I fear he's lost some of that confidence, he hesitates, he doesn't come out to get high balls, when he rushes out of his area it's almost always mistimed, and I mean, look at the way he just randomly punches the ball at the 93rd against Atalanta. Not exactly what you want to see from someone who needs to lead the defense.

It's always a gamble picking up goalkeepers from sides like Udinese, as they get battered with shots and the keeper always looks great, but some still go in. Then you think "Oh we can't blame him, he can't possibly stop them all", and the odd mistakes are forgiven because "oh he's saved us so many times before". If that sounds familiar that's because that's what Handa was for us during our banter era times. I so clearly remember Morata taking the world's shittest potshot, it bobbling over Handa and me not even getting mad, because I thought "Fuck it, he's probably exhausted from saving our asses so often".

I love Samir, and I want him to lift a trophy with us, he deserves it. But a top team can't have a keeper that makes the odd mistake, because if we're allowing 2 shots on target per game, then both of those should be saved. At the moment, we concede roughly once per every 2 shots on goal. That is disastrous. Look at the difference that Alisson has made for Liverpool, for example (not that I'm at all comparing Handa to Mignolet or Karius).

And after all that, I have no idea who we could buy to replace Handa. Donnarumma still has those mistakes in him, but he's basically still a teenager. Cragno and Musso both look good, but I've already explained why I'm wary of them. Keylor Navas is an option I'd consider, but only as a stop-gap and that point we might as well keep Handa. Oblak and Neuer aren't going anywhere. Lautaro for ter Stegen is something to think about, but I think he's just renewed. Bleh.

Maybe that Brazao kid will be incredible.

 

[Il Drago]

Maybe that Brazao kid will be incredible.

I realise there's a lot of hype around Brazao and he could be a top GK one day but at the moment he can't even be considered a better option than Radu. He's struggling to start in Segunda Division.

 

[YoramG]

I realise there's a lot of hype around Brazao and he could be a top GK one day but at the moment he can't even be considered a better option than Radu. He's struggling to start in Segunda Division.

Sounds like a fruitful loan.

 

[brehme1989]

Since you watch Ligue 1 a lot, what's your opinion on Maignan of Lille? I haven't watched him a lot but whenever i have he looks really promising.

Lille is a weird team actually as their players perform well but it's more of a system, environment thing in most cases.
With goalkeepers of course it's different.

Talent is there of course with Maignan but I don't think he's one of the top guys. I mean Lafont is better than him but I never bought into the hype from his Viola days and now he's been sent away. Reading FIF you'd believe Barcelona and Real Madrid would battle over the guy.

 

[Materazzi_23]

Musso is better than Onana honestly.

Now or in potential? Because Onana is 2 years younger and only get challenged in the CL and not in the Dutch league so I find it hard to compare. Onana did played incredible games in the CL year where Musso only played for Udinese and once for Argentina in a friendly if I remember correctly? Not saying playing for Udinese means you are a lesser goalkeeper but it is hard to compare keepers who are acting on a different stage. One only gets challenged when he is playing in Europe or maybe 4/6 matches in his league where Musso get challenged every week in Italy but not in Europe etc.

 

[brehme1989]

Now or in potential? Because Onana is 2 years younger and only get challenged in the CL and not in the Dutch league so I find it hard to compare. Onana did played incredible games in the CL year where Musso only played for Udinese and once for Argentina in a friendly if I remember correctly? Not saying playing for Udinese means you are a lesser goalkeeper but it is hard to compare keepers who are acting on a different stage. One only gets challenged when he is playing in Europe or maybe 4/6 matches in his league where Musso get challenged every week in Italy but not in Europe etc.

Both I think.

Onana's best trait is his reflexes and Musso has him beaten there.
Onana is very prone to silly mistakes that I have not seen Musso make and that's also playing for a side that gets a good hammering usually whereas Onana plays for a ball dominant side and in a league where his team is a juggernaut.


Musso has the vibes of a top goalkeeper, very calm presence overall, whereas with Onana I always get a feeling that he's very nervous and it can make everyone around him nervous too. He plays very aggressively as well, which sometimes is a sign that he's not well tamed for a goalkeeper. This makes him indecisive when to go out of his goal line to clear the ball, he's messing up punching the ball or grabbing it (Buffon also had that issue but look at him).

The only argument I have against Musso is that he doesn't "fill" the goal line. He's not a huge presence. You could feel that with Toldo, you can feel that with Handanovic. You feel that with Neuer. You felt that with older GK's like Kahn or Schmeichel. Or Zenga.
Onana is very agile and fast and can make up for this, like Julio Cesar was, whereas Musso relies a lot on his skillset. He's not someone who the striker will see and fear that he's going to mess it up. Keepers like Onana will try to make sure that the player will mess up by 'provoking him', going outside their lines often, rushing out etc. It's not a size thing, it's purely a mental aspect of goalkeeping. And I think it's sort of innate, you either have it or you don't. And it's the catalyst that makes goalkeepers more durable. Guys like Musso and Onana very likely are not going to be solid goalkeepers once they reach a certain age (anywhere between 30-33 depending on their body and injuries). At least not based on how they are today. Goalkeepers rarely show that much of a change in this regard.

 

[francesco]

As for prospects there is a lot of quality out there one I'd like to see which would be unpopular I think is Kepa.. dropped by Chelsea.. he just needs a ressurgance.

I'd rather put padelli or radu on the goal rather than kepa, at least their wage is low enough and can make few saves here and there.
Kepa at the moment is the worst goalkeeper in premier league, he didn't collect crosses, he didn't stop shots, he sucks at one on one, and he is on massive wages and high transfer fee. And don't forget the inflated ego refusing to be sub by sarri and then lost on penalty shootout, it doesn't matter if it's a miss communication, when your manager say you are out, you are out.

as for replacement, it really depends on inter's willingness to spend money on gk, they balked out from 30M demand for musso
so if we have no money then would you like fringe serie a club backup gk (radu) or segunda divison level gk (brazao) as your first choice gk next year? blivious:

 

[Universe]

Musso has disappointed this season. So I guess he'll fit right in.

 

[brehme1989]

Musso, along with perhaps De Paul to an extent, saved Udinese from relegation last season.

They cannot pull miracles every game. The dude had most clean sheets last season and his defensive line is made up of SerieBisti.

 

[Materazzi_23]

Both I think.

Onana's best trait is his reflexes and Musso has him beaten there.
Onana is very prone to silly mistakes that I have not seen Musso make and that's also playing for a side that gets a good hammering usually whereas Onana plays for a ball dominant side and in a league where his team is a juggernaut.


Musso has the vibes of a top goalkeeper, very calm presence overall, whereas with Onana I always get a feeling that he's very nervous and it can make everyone around him nervous too. He plays very aggressively as well, which sometimes is a sign that he's not well tamed for a goalkeeper. This makes him indecisive when to go out of his goal line to clear the ball, he's messing up punching the ball or grabbing it (Buffon also had that issue but look at him).

I can't recall Onana making any silly mistakes, in the beginning of his career he made some errors in Jong Ajax and after that in the first team also but the last couple of years he made very few mistakes. Although a friend of mine who is a GK said that the first goal of Zapata 2 weeks ago was stoppable for an world class keeper. I completely agree about the Onana part but this is something which will get better over the years I guess. Right now Onana is a all or nothing goalie when he rushes out but I think this will be better if he's older, more experience and he will know how to act on it. That's why it's a shame Ajax doesn't get really challenged in the league, it seems that is almost to easy for him and he gets ''bored''.

His best matches where the games in the CL where Ajax is under a lot of pressure and he needs to be focused all the time. That's why I would love for him to go to a bigger club and show his talent week in week out without ''days off''. I think he has the talent to become as good as someone like Oblak or Ter Stegen. (Neuer is for me a class on his own). The only downside of Onana is as you said he is tend to make it more difficult for himself and everyone around him, with the ball on his feet or with his presence but I'm sure this will change when he becomes older and calmer.