2021/2022 Midfielders Rumours Thread

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Bastoni cost 30m€ in the books but I think we paid less than half of that in cash. Some kids went to Atalanta with inflated prices. So it was a really good transfer.
 

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I agree with @thatdude. Investing in unproven youth who show some promise is the only way forward.

Thats never worked for us. In the past, we have been shite at buying unproven, young players. Maybe Marotta can do better, but even his strength lies in doing smart deals on proven players, not kids.

I personally think that is a risky strategy and could easily lead to another banter era. I think Inter should do smart deals Marotta style, like we did last summer. It may mean a lot of bosman signings, some old players like Dzeko, but if anyone can find success with little money, Marotta can.
 

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Bastoni cost 30m€ in the books but I think we paid less than half of that in cash. Some kids went to Atalanta with inflated prices. So it was a really good transfer.
Yep indeed. Its a risky transfer in many ways given bow little experience he bad at the time but we did a good job either way
 

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Thats never worked for us. In the past, we have been shite at buying unproven, young players. Maybe Marotta can do better, but even his strength lies in doing smart deals on proven players, not kids.

I personally think that is a risky strategy and could easily lead to another banter era. I think Inter should do smart deals Marotta style, like we did last summer. It may mean a lot of bosman signings, some old players like Dzeko, but if anyone can find success with little money, Marotta can.
It's not like we gonna sell half of our core next summer. We're not heading to banter era. Investing in younger players obviously means lesser certainty for the coach but proper mix of veterans and younger players is a good combination. And all this build around our core which is either starting hit their prime years or will do so in the future: Barella, Skriniar, Bastoni, Lautaro. Brozovic and/or De Vrij added of course if we extend them.
 

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Buying players with the highest quality per price ratio is the key. Buying hyped youngsters isn't as crucial as it was ten years ago, as players and agents are having too much power in negotiation. Their salary is too high too early. It does not matter how young a player is, if we can't afford they will leave, and the owning team isn't getting much out of that.

Look at the Milan youth project for example. They could nurture the best youngster on the planet (Donnarumma). They could suffer players' mediocrity for years (Kessie, Hakan) just to see them leaving as soon as they polish. For 0€. Even worse, that kid cannot develop as expected and the owner has to be stuck with him for a long time (Romagnoli). The younger a player is, the more expensive the cost is and it adds up to the burden of risk.

Inter is having the same issue but in a lesser extent. Brozovic is at his prime but we are still losing him for free, because of his 8m€ demand. Lautaro is super young, only 24yo, but as soon as he will ask for a payrise, already out of our affordable range. We can't keep regardless.

Ofc you can find kids that love the club and are willing to play with relatively lower salaries, like Skriniar, Barella, Bastoni, but those are extremely rare. It would be less risky to squeeze older players their best years, pay them exactly when we need them and let them leave soon enough. Like Young, Moses, Dzeko, Vidal. In the worst case, a massive failure like Kolarov costs us a fraction of damage compared to what Joao Mario did.
 

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Thats never worked for us. In the past, we have been shite at buying unproven, young players. Maybe Marotta can do better, but even his strength lies in doing smart deals on proven players, not kids.

I personally think that is a risky strategy and could easily lead to another banter era. I think Inter should do smart deals Marotta style, like we did last summer. It may mean a lot of bosman signings, some old players like Dzeko, but if anyone can find success with little money, Marotta can.
Just because it didn't work for us in the past doean't mean it's not gonna work for us forever. Getting washed up bang average oldies on high salaries, with little to zero to show for on the pitch is not the way to go either. We've spent enough of money on this failed experiement for years, with one title to show for in 10 years.

With smart business we get a good mix of young and experienced players who live up to the money they earn and actually have a resale value.
 

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Coutinho would be like 4m net at most for us to be realistic. I dont even know where we'd play him in this formation.
And if he suddenly became available for 4M net, half the clubs in Europe would be after him, many of whom can pay larger loan fees than us.
 

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And if he suddenly became available for 4M net, half the clubs in Europe would be after him, many of whom can pay larger loan fees than us.
Not sure about that. Second tier clubs maybe but i doubt many top clubs would be interested. When did he have his last good season? 2017/18? That's 4 years ago.
 

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Brozovic is at his prime but we are still losing him for free, because of his 8m€ demand.
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Just because it didn't work for us in the past doean't mean it's not gonna work for us forever. Getting washed up bang average oldies on high salaries, with little to zero to show for on the pitch is not the way to go either. We've spent enough of money on this failed experiement for years, with one title to show for in 10 years.

With smart business we get a good mix of young and experienced players who live up to the money they earn and actually have a resale value.
Lets say for example we get Raspadori for 30-40M and he bombs, what will we do with him? Conversely we get Dembele from Lyon, things don't workout, there's a market for him in France, England and possibly Spain and we can get a decent reimbursement. I think we're getting carried away with the Barella + Bastoni purchases, scouting and onboarding youngsters is not something Inter is or has ever been good at.
 

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Lets say for example we get Raspadori for 30-40M and he bombs, what will we do with him? Conversely we get Dembele from Lyon, things don't workout, there's a market for him in France, England and possibly Spain and we can get a decent reimbursement. I think we're getting carried away with the Barella + Bastoni purchases, scouting and onboarding youngsters is not something Inter is or has ever been good at.
Inter is not a person, nor it has been managed by one person with the same policies in the entire history. If Inter failed in something at a time does not incidcate that it's always failed in it and will continue to fail base on its talents!

It has nothing to do with Barella and Bastoni either. Our former captain Javier Zanetti was just another talented kid who turned out to be a monster and a club's icon. Many didn't expect the likes of Maicon and Julio Cesar to become the club's legends when Inter signed them. Same could be said about Brozovic. With good scouting and smart business we won't need to overpay for the aged players who deliver only for a year and then fade into vanity and we get stuck with them for years paying their huge salaries.

Getting younger players do not always succeed, but saying it like it never works for a club like Inter is gross exaggeration. There are several players in the squad who despite their age and experience have little to zero impact on the pitch. Two of them are the highest earners in the squad and are not even a starter or even available for the team on a constant basis. The likes of Kolarov, Vecino and Gagliardini are getting paid for more than many youngsters out there and nobody would miss them when they're gone.

I don't mean we should only aim for 20 years old players. Personally I don't rate someone like Raspadori 30-40m and I believe getting someone like Julian Alvarez for 25m worth more than paying that much for Raspadori. However we need to have a set of standards and policies about how we spend our money, both on the younger players and more experienced ones.
 

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Coutinho? Meh, let's clear out some deadwood and some high priced injury prone guys first. Gambling with youth is ok with me if they are replacing some of the stiffs as mentioned by posts above. First we should get Brozovic and Perisic to new contracts though.
 
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Inter often is not patient enough with his own players. Obvious example is Coutinho, but there is another one. Duncan is not worse than 5G, he is one year older as well. But instead of giving him chances and developed him, we sent him away for peanuts, only to buy someone like Gagsi for 25 mln. The another one is Biraghi. Not a world beater, but he was sold around 2015-16, only to use the likes of Ansaldi and Dalbert on the left flank. Zaniolo is similar. Spalletti was looking for a player behind Icardi, but he never gave a chance to him. I know that we do not produce some superstars in our primavera, but it's better to give a fair chance to some youngstar instead of buying some mediocre crap with fat salary.
 

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Coutinho was a tragic love story between inter fans and cou, so sad things didn't work out

Absolutely love it if he by any means return to inter and manage to turn his career around, it will be a beautiful fairy tale story
 

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Inter often is not patient enough with his own players. Obvious example is Coutinho, but there is another one. Duncan is not worse than 5G, he is one year older as well. But instead of giving him chances and developed him, we sent him away for peanuts, only to buy someone like Gagsi for 25 mln. The another one is Biraghi. Not a world beater, but he was sold around 2015-16, only to use the likes of Ansaldi and Dalbert on the left flank. Zaniolo is similar. Spalletti was looking for a player behind Icardi, but he never gave a chance to him. I know that we do not produce some superstars in our primavera, but it's better to give a fair chance to some youngstar instead of buying some mediocre crap with fat salary.
It's unlikely to change anytime soon, from what I read about inzaghi times at Lazio, he's the type of coach who prefer experience over youth.
 

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Our former captain Javier Zanetti was just another talented kid who turned out to be a monster and a club's icon. Many didn't expect the likes of Maicon and Julio Cesar to become the club's legends when Inter signed them. Same could be said about Brozovic.
these aren't relevant examples because we weren't constrained by FFP or budgetary problems at the time. Not only that but they were acquired at insignificant cost. Raspadori or Castrovilli at 40M is pretty much our entire mercato budget for the year. If either bombs we are stuck with them and their wages indefinitely.

With good scouting and smart business
I just watched Pinamonti playing for 60 insufferable minutes (and oddly he scores soon as I tuned off) and you want to count on our scouting and business acumen going forward? Not only do we suck at both, but also at nurturing and selling.

we won't need to overpay for the aged players who deliver only for a year and then fade into vanity and we get stuck with them for years paying their huge salaries.
My preference is low-cost mid-career players. Onana and Kostic for example, Akanji and Dahoud whose contracts are soon up, experienced want-a-ways like Wiegl and Torreira, basically low risk, high upside players.

I don't mean we should only aim for 20 years old players. Personally I don't rate someone like Raspadori 30-40m and I believe getting someone like Julian Alvarez for 25m worth more than paying that much for Raspadori. However we need to have a set of standards and policies about how we spend our money, both on the younger players and more experienced ones.
Fair enough. My beef is our over-eagerness to onboard the likes of Ricci, Raspadori, Castrovilli, Frattesi, and whatever next-big-thing Italian youngster, 90% of these are average or just straight garbage. Let me reiterate, I have ZERO faith in our management and scouting team to unearth and nurture a quality young player, definitely not on a consistent enough basis to build a team capable of competing for trophies.
 

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Our scouting is not that bad, it’s just that we couldn’t nurture young players. From the Moratti era, we unearthed quite a lot of gems, RCarlos, Frey, Pirlo, Adriano, Zanetti, Coutinho...

I remember a few years ago, our scouts found 2 unknown French youngsters, Agoume and Tchouameni, unfortunately, in the end, we only signed the Agoume even though we also tried for Tchouameni.
Tchouameni becomes a 60m player now. It shows our scouts are quite capable. The development is another story but now we already have a good group of core players and don’t have budget for expensive signings, perhaps we can develop one or two young players now?

Free signings are also a good strategy but it doesn’t guarantee success either. Like Sanchez, he’s not that bad but too injury prone, high salary and now we need to offload him.

If Raspadori costs 40m, that’s not the type of youngsters signings that I like. These transfers should be in the range of 10m-20m or less.
 

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If Napoli are still interested in Vecino I would push for a Lobotka/Vecino swap. Not sure what Napoli see in Vecino but Lobotka is definitely a player we can "safely" use as a backup to Brozo and Barella, neat and safe in possession, can play across the midfield.
 
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