2022/2023 Defenders Rumours Thread

[ADRossi]

Disagree, last season we almost killed fkn Liverpool with Sanchez upfront and without Barella. Keeping Skriniar, adding Dybala, Bremer plus all players we already got that team is a threat. We can play with everyone.

I don't understand the "we almost killed Liverpool" argument. Were Liverpool ever actually concerned about us? Other than about one minute between Martinez scoring and Sanchez getting sent off.

 

[bubba zanetti]

I don't understand the "we almost killed Liverpool" argument. Were Liverpool ever actually concerned about us? Other than about one minute between Martinez scoring and Sanchez getting sent off.

They were concerned 80% game in Milano before they scored. We were killing them.

 

[ADRossi]

They were concerned 80% game in Milano before they scored. We were killing them.

Didn't we have no shots on goal? Just a Brozovic post.

 

[bubba zanetti]

Didn't we have no shots on goal? Just a Brozovic post.

Did you watch the game?

 

[ADRossi]

Did you watch the game?

Yes, and there was never a moment when I thought we were winning the tie. In fact, I cashed a bet on us to not score in that game.

Anyway, if we add Bremer without selling Skriniar, I don't care if we sign Dybala. That will already constitute a better Mercato that I could have ever dreamed of given the current financial situation.

 

[brakbrak]

Didn't we have no shots on goal? Just a Brozovic post.

It was Calha, but I'm with you. The whole idea we did well by "beating" liverpool was ridiculous, they gave 0 shit against us lol

 

[thatdude]

Naw they didn’t give zero shit. We did make life difficult for them in the first leg, we just lacked that bit of belief to actually hurt them. our mentality wasn’t going to allow us to score, that’s why the Lautaro banger was actually important for our psyche going forward imo. We need to break the duck, now we know we can at least hurt a big CL team. Next step is actually winning a group stage match against a big side. Then we can talk about a tie.

 

[Il Drago]

Zagadou is a hard pass. There's a reason he's a free agent at 23 and there's no serious interest for him. Injury prone and error prone and poor positionng. He has some interesting traits like speed and athleticism but he needs to work a lot on his weaskness. Also he can only play as lcb. He can't play in the middle of a back 3. If Inter sign him he needs to be sent elsewhere on loan to gain playing time and improve.

 

[junkie]

Yes, and there was never a moment when I thought we were winning the tie. In fact, I cashed a bet on us to not score in that game.

Anyway, if we add Bremer without selling Skriniar, I don't care if we sign Dybala. That will already constitute a better Mercato that I could have ever dreamed of given the current financial situation.

I agree, would sign a Škriniar stay over Dybala immediately, because we had best attack last year and with Lukaku we are good to go, but with SBB deffence we are up there...

 

[thatdude]

Zagadou is a hard pass. There's a reason he's a free agent at 23 and there's no serious interest for him. Injury prone and error prone and poor positionng. He has some interesting traits like speed and athleticism but he needs to work a lot on his weaskness. Also he can only play as lcb. He can't play in the middle of a back 3. If Inter sign him he needs to be sent elsewhere on loan to gain playing time and improve.

Needs to go somewhere he can play 2 seasons consistently to get his career back on track.

 

[BasedGodPunk]

I feel sorry for you guys dreaming about adding Bremer and keeping Skriniar. Zhang will carry Skriniar to Paris before that happens. 70 million or not.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

We're still very far away from being competitive in CL. Look at all the contenders, they are great in all areas and world class in some. We're good to great in all areas but not world class in any.

Take Liverpool for example, our midfield wasn't inferior to them, that's why we still had some control in the game. Perisic also dominated TAA all games. But outside of that we didn't have Allison, Mane, Salah to finish off the game. Lautaro, Dumfries,... were good but Mane and Salah were consistently top 30 Ballon D'Or. And that's only the starting XI, let's not discuss the bench here.

Same to Real, we may have the upper hand in the midfield, but when it came to finish the chances, they had the ballon dor winning Benzema and Vinicius who could change the game with one burst of speed. Courtois was also miles ahead of our aging Handanovic too. We just don't have anyone on that level.

We are close to Chelsea of 20/21 though, but still need to improve our bench quite a lot and even then Chelsea winning that year was completely unexpected.

 

[brehme1989]

Klopp is probably still claiming that the Inter tie was the toughest he faced whole season long and we did that without Barella and with active 13 players over both legs, De Vrij playing with a concussion and a ridiculous red when momentum could have shifted our way...

Sure, we didn't win, but we were by no means outplayed apart from a few stretches. If anything those ties proved that teams like Liverpool are overrated and tend to overwhelm others based on brand name rather than quality.

You expect to lose to these teams (Real, Liverpool, Bayern etc) and you're going to show it. If you realize your own strengths, you're going to give them a hard battle. This is what Atletico has been doing to teams like Barcelona, Bayern and Juventus in the past decade when no one expected them to be relevant.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

AM would be a good example 5 years ago, but in the last 5 seasons, they had one group stage exit, 2 round of 16 and 2 quarter final exit. For a team that spend 50+ on strikers every year, going out against Juve, RB Leipzig,... is simply not good enough. You need to realize they're no longer a small team, they are very strong financially, about as strong as juve I'd say.

 

[brehme1989]

AM would be a good example 5 years ago, but in the last 5 seasons, they had one group stage exit, 2 round of 16 and 2 quarter final exit. For a team that spend 50+ on strikers every year, going out against Juve, RB Leipzig,... is simply not good enough. You need to realize they're no longer a small team, they are very strong financially, about as strong as juve I'd say.

I'm talking about the past decade, not their recent history. Obviously I'm talking about their underdog status when reaching 2 CL finals in 3 years.

What you're saying is just proof of how it's not that easy to make a transition drom underdog to a top team. Atletico cannot make the jump, they're not that kind of a club. Liverpool is. Inter is. Manchester City is trying to buy their way into this but they're not, and Chelsea is also there but 10 years earlier and they've managed to win shit because whatever deity runs the show fell asleep.

Inter is not far behind the top guns, but we're giving ourselves too many hurdles. We should have been a CL contender by the end of 2019-20 but we weren't even in the late rounds.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

My point is realizing your strengths and giving hard battles are not that straight forward and easily attainable.

AM used to know their strengths and give hard battles, but they don't anymore, how does this work, what happened?

And do top teams not know their strengths and give hard battles? I'd argue they know and try as hard as anyone else. And even then, some gap in quality can't be overcome just by trying, no matter how hard you try.

 

[DARi0]

GdS: Skriniar’s departure will not get Inter the desired amount of cash, it’ll be a bit less. As of this moment, Milenkovic is far away from Inter. The second signing (after Bremer) will probably be a less expensive deal: the profile of Zagadou, at no cost, is being evaluated.

There’s also the theory of borrowing a bigger name like Çağlar Söyüncü from Leicester on loan. But in the case of a second defender, Inter want to think about it calmly.

Beppe likes free agents and the contract of Nikola Milenković will expire in 2023. Perhaps we could wait this out, as long as we get a quick patch for that role?

This zagadou dude should be a hard pass, no matter how talented he is. Tall dude with all sorts of knee and muscle injuries, never a good sign...

Zagadou is a hard pass. There's a reason he's a free agent at 23 and there's no serious interest for him. Injury prone and error prone and poor positionng. He has some interesting traits like speed and athleticism but he needs to work a lot on his weaskness. Also he can only play as lcb. He can't play in the middle of a back 3. If Inter sign him he needs to be sent elsewhere on loan to gain playing time and improve.

This doesn`t sound good. I have no clue about this defender currently rated at 9M, however it does seems strange that Dortmund are just letting him go just like that.

We have recently specialized in revitalizing players, however he would not play much over here. Loaning him out would make sense from management perspective, if he`s happy to play elsewhere.

 

[Nerazzurri_Ninja]

Can we sign Viti, maybe scalvini

 

[brehme1989]

My point is realizing your strengths and giving hard battles are not that straight forward and easily attainable.

AM used to know their strengths and give hard battles, but they don't anymore, how does this work, what happened?

And do top teams not know their strengths and give hard battles? I'd argue they know and try as hard as anyone else. And even then, some gap in quality can't be overcome just by trying, no matter how hard you try.

True, this is exactly the tough task.

Growing into a status and adapting into it.

Manchester City achieved this because they had no competition in England despite Liverpool reaching their level at some points.

Atletico cannot do this because there's Real Madrid and no matter how shit Barcelona is, they're there heads and shoulders above the rest.

In Italy, Juventus did this because there was no competition either. Same with Bayern in Germany. This is why tradition also matters, because you can see that PSG is more of a theme park than an elite club.

Being the underdog for years and becoming the top dog is a harder task than being a former top dog that's been sleeping for a long while. We're closer to the Liverpool status than the Atletico one.

Anyhow, this is going off topic and we can continue this in the General Inter thread. On topic now, we cannot really afford to lose Skiriniar for a number of reasons.

 

[Capo]

We don't need to have a perfect team to win in CL and win CL too. We barely have any world class players, but if we play better than we did the last few years, we could unlock something in our team that would be finally able to beat Barcelona/Real Madrid/Liverpool type matches more regulary. Mix of the right players + right coaching can be better than 11 superstars on the pitch

I'd be interest to know who you would bring to beat the CL regulars in Barca, Real and Liverpool?

And im not suggesting a team of superstars but definitely a step up in quality and alot of depth. Keeping our current team + Dzeko, Sanchez, Skriniar and Dumfries + Dybala, Bremer, Koulibaly, and maybe SMS. Also bring back Hakimi and Perisic.

Apologies on the tangent and going off topic.