2023/2024 Forwards Rumours Thread

[NimAraya]

First comparing Taremi to Falcao, then Milito...

I think I better stay away from this madness until he's hopefully and officially not an option anymore.

The latest report said Inter is gonna offer 23m for this guy. If these idiots really do that instead of spending a few more to get Orban, then we shouldn't really complain about lack of options or money. It's our own idiocy which screws us over and over again.

 

[ChillBro]

Like Mikko said Teremi is the right kind of profile for the striker that we need. He certainly has his risks but it won't be trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.

I think when it comes to balogun, wahi, orban - some of you are forgetting that Thuram is our 'dynamic' project forward who can dribble, has speed, gets behind a defense but isn't a polished goal scorer. I don't think its wise to get another player of a similar profile for an attack that really has Toro who is a good finisher like 70% of the time and then noone else.

Orban i understand has great stats but that's a huge leap to come here.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah, Orban isn't from Ligue 1 but from even lower tier league. He cannot be our 3rd striker to start games when one of our starters picks up an injury or needs a rest. As a 4th strikers he could maybe work, but as said above, the leap is huge.

 

[sdvroot]

Like Mikko said Teremi is the right kind of profile for the striker that we need. He certainly has his risks but it won't be trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.

I think when it comes to balogun, wahi, orban - some of you are forgetting that Thuram is our 'dynamic' project forward who can dribble, has speed, gets behind a defense but isn't a polished goal scorer. I don't think its wise to get another player of a similar profile for an attack that really has Toro who is a good finisher like 70% of the time and then noone else.

Orban i understand has great stats but that's a huge leap to come here.

Lautaro a good finisher? Thuram can dribble? )) wtf

 

[NimAraya]

Like Mikko said Teremi is the right kind of profile for the striker that we need. He certainly has his risks but it won't be trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.

I think when it comes to balogun, wahi, orban - some of you are forgetting that Thuram is our 'dynamic' project forward who can dribble, has speed, gets behind a defense but isn't a polished goal scorer. I don't think its wise to get another player of a similar profile for an attack that really has Toro who is a good finisher like 70% of the time and then noone else.

Orban i understand has great stats but that's a huge leap to come here.

Do you remember our 'prolific goal scorers' missing chances left and right last season, causing us to lose many points over the season? Putting certain characteristics on players and expecting certain outcomes from them don't always reflect on what actually happens on the pitch. This estimation of you guys about Taremi being 'the right guy' for us is just flawed in several aspects. He's not as good as you make him out to be (don't mean he's terrible!), neither he's the right option for us financially. Considering him as an option is a waste of time and money. If he fails here (which I give a 70% chance that he does), then we threw away 23m and we got to come back looking for another striker again while he is still on our payroll and we probably can't get rid of him.

 

[sdvroot]

Yeah, Orban isn't from Ligue 1 but from even lower tier league. He cannot be our 3rd striker to start games when one of our starters picks up an injury or needs a rest. As a 4th strikers he could maybe work, but as said above, the leap is huge.

Orban is a Lexus compared to a Renault Megane Thuram.

 

[ChillBro]

Do you remember our 'prolific goal scorers' missing chances left and right last season, causing us to lose many points over the season? Putting certain characteristics on players and expecting certain outcomes from them don't always reflect on what actually happens on the pitch. This estimation of you guys about Taremi being 'the right guy' for us is just flawed in several aspects. He's not as good as you make him out to be (don't mean he's terrible!), neither he's the right option for us financially. Considering him as an option is a waste of time and money. If he fails here (which I give a 70% chance that he does), then we threw away 23m and we got to come back looking for another striker again while he is still on our payroll and we probably can't get rid of him.

The missing changes point i made is exactly why I am saying some of these no-name guys are too risky. We can disagree that Taremi is a clinical finisher but of all the names remaining, he has the best output at the highest quality league.

But there is no chance in hell we should ever consider paying over $20m for him. It would be insanity to pay that.

 

[ChillBro]

Lautaro a good finisher? Thuram can dribble? )) wtf

I'm being generous to Lautaro if you couldn't tell. He is undoubtedly our best forward.

As for Thuram, he can dribble more than most our players other than maybe Cuadrado now.

for your edification:

 

[sdvroot]

The missing changes point i made is exactly why I am saying some of these no-name guys are too risky. We can disagree that Taremi is a clinical finisher but of all the names remaining, he has the best output at the highest quality league.

But there is no chance in hell we should ever consider paying over $20m for him. It would be insanity to pay that.

highest quality league

 

[sdvroot]

I'm being generous to Lautaro if you couldn't tell. He is undoubtedly our best forward.

As for Thuram, he can dribble more than most our players other than maybe Cuadrado now.

for your edification:

Crazy Dribbling ))​

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Crazy Dribbling ))​

I dont know what youre trying to prove here but Thuram is clearly a dribbler, may not be the best out there but a dribbler nevertheless. Furthermore, he's a skilled dribbler, who can start dribbling from a standstill in tight space. The opposite is speed dribblers, e.g Lukaku, who are very dangerous when they can get running but rather harmless in tight space. There's a reason Thuram started out as a winger.

 

[Hikonyán]

Orbans finishing looks really good, very clean striking of the ball.

Atleast from these youtube clips.

Rather gamble on him than paying 30m for some old bum like Taremi.

 

[rfU]

Iheanacho? Type of player who would work well paired alongside another forward. Only 26-27 years old. Certainly capable of minimum 15 goals (10 outfield + 5 penalties). Good finishing and physical game, linkup is above average, not particularly fast or good at dribbling. Could be a revelation with consistent football.

 

[Goro1]

I just hope Inter doesn't sign Belfodil-level striker like exactly 10 years ago!

 

[sdvroot]

I dont know what youre trying to prove here but Thuram is clearly a dribbler, may not be the best out there but a dribbler nevertheless. Furthermore, he's a skilled dribbler, who can start dribbling from a standstill in tight space. The opposite is speed dribblers, e.g Lukaku, who are very dangerous when they can get running but rather harmless in tight space. There's a reason Thuram started out as a winger.

He's a dribbler, but I wouldn't say he's a good dribbler. My grandmother can dribble better...

If it's a video like ChillBro says it is Crazy dribbling, then what is it -

?

 

[Gal]

If we don't get forward, we will have a lot of draws this season.

That would be progress last term we lost the games

 

[lulek]

I just hope Inter doesn't sign Belfodil-level striker like exactly 10 years ago!

He is out of contract, i dont see this as a bad deal? Also Samuele Longo can be bought for really cheap (350k valued on Transfermarkt)... good deals id say.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

He's a dribbler, but I wouldn't say he's a good dribbler. My grandmother can dribble better...

If it's a video like ChillBro says it is Crazy dribbling, then what is it -

?

Youre comparing him to wingers/wide forwards, in which case, his dribbling would be barely above average.

But for a striker, his dribbling is borderline elite. He ranked at 86th percentile between forwards in term of successful take ons per game, above all the strikers we have been linked with this summer e.g. Balogun, Openda, Wahi, Lukaku,... and also far above some of elite strikers out there, e.g. Benzema, Osimhen...

He also did that with BMG who finished midtable in Bundesliga. So no, your grandma is not better than him at dribbling.

 

[Batman]

First comparing Taremi to Falcao, then Milito...

I think I better stay away from this madness until he's hopefully and officially not an option anymore.

The latest report said Inter is gonna offer 23m for this guy. If these idiots really do that instead of spending a few more to get Orban, then we shouldn't really complain about lack of options or money. It's our own idiocy which screws us over and over again.

LITERALLY no one compared Taremi to neither Falcao or Milito…

They compared situations, not capabilities as a player.

Sigh…

 

[Gal]

Yup. I think that's what Ausillio was alluding to as well when he said we're looking for someone whose primary role is scoring goals. That takes Beto off the table, as he's not that great a goal-scorer.

I assume that brings Taremi to the top of the list alongside Balogun given he both scores and assists a lot, and also has Champions League experience. 30 million is just so much for a 31 year old with one year left on their contract.

Neither of those are proven goal scorer. To be a truly proven you at the bare minimum had to show something in a major league, scoring loads of goals in third rated league once dos not make you proven. Loads of players can score 20ish goals in the French, Portuguese and Dutch league, players who will struggle scoring more then 10ish goals in the major 4, that are first and second tire.

Taremi is just to old to learn to play at this level over the cause of 40ish games, he never tried that. It’s simply not comparable to what you can do at third and lower tire leagues.

The same goes for Balogun, who at least is young enough to have time to take it in.

We really need to make the right decision though. I'd rather slightly overpay for someone that management feels can fit into the team and the way Inzaghi wants to play. If Taremi is that guy, so be it, as long as we can push the price down a bit.

Taremi is not it, inexperienced 31 year old who will most likely flop and then what, we lost 20-30m on the floor, he won’t even be 5mil worth after that.

I get that he's older, but I don't want us to go for a younger option simply because they're younger like Beto, who is just such a bad fit for this team.

Obviously not, but Taremi is a massive gamle much bigger then Scamacca. It’s smell heavily of panic trade. We all know how such trades usually turns out.

In general, strikers are expensive and it's not easy to find an affordable striker unless we are buying someone totally unproven, like Hojlund was when Atalanta got him.

Even our very own Pinamonti cost 20 million, and everyone here can agree he's a fairly limited and average player - and that was also selling to Sassuolo, a team that I don't believe pay too much for players.

True, but at least with young players you can regain something with players like Taremi you loose the entire amount you will never get as much as a bend eurocent back, you would need to loan him out until contract expires not to be punished by FFP.